AMC 20 Axle Break
12-10-2004, 05:05 PM
#11
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Re: AMC 20 Axle Break
YOU ARE SO FULL OF IT, Bill!
The AMC20's 2-piece axles will spin the hub off the end of the axle. The hub
is splined onto the axle, and the splines can strip, twist, or otherwise let
go of the hub. When this happens, the vehicle can not be flat towed. Hell,
you might even have trouble trailering it, because the tire will fall off.
Having said that, they are very stout, and as good as the D44. It's just
taht if they do break, they will strip the splines where the hubs are held
on. 35s could break them though.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41B9E9AE.4C1B0B23@***.net...
> They don't break. The two piece axles are as strong as any Dana 44,
> up until someone takes them apart to replace the seal instead of
> removing the pressed on bearing. Because they are swedged together we
> must replace the hub, too or it'l spin every time:
> http://www.----------.com/mirror/compareAMCdana.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> CJ5 on 35's wrote:
> >
> > Where will the stock 2 piece axles break if they do? I really just want
> > to know if it will still be towable.
> > Kevin
> > CJ5 warn 8000i, full cage, 35x12.50, 2.5" lift, 1" body
The AMC20's 2-piece axles will spin the hub off the end of the axle. The hub
is splined onto the axle, and the splines can strip, twist, or otherwise let
go of the hub. When this happens, the vehicle can not be flat towed. Hell,
you might even have trouble trailering it, because the tire will fall off.
Having said that, they are very stout, and as good as the D44. It's just
taht if they do break, they will strip the splines where the hubs are held
on. 35s could break them though.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41B9E9AE.4C1B0B23@***.net...
> They don't break. The two piece axles are as strong as any Dana 44,
> up until someone takes them apart to replace the seal instead of
> removing the pressed on bearing. Because they are swedged together we
> must replace the hub, too or it'l spin every time:
> http://www.----------.com/mirror/compareAMCdana.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> CJ5 on 35's wrote:
> >
> > Where will the stock 2 piece axles break if they do? I really just want
> > to know if it will still be towable.
> > Kevin
> > CJ5 warn 8000i, full cage, 35x12.50, 2.5" lift, 1" body
12-10-2004, 05:05 PM
#12
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Re: AMC 20 Axle Break
YOU ARE SO FULL OF IT, Bill!
The AMC20's 2-piece axles will spin the hub off the end of the axle. The hub
is splined onto the axle, and the splines can strip, twist, or otherwise let
go of the hub. When this happens, the vehicle can not be flat towed. Hell,
you might even have trouble trailering it, because the tire will fall off.
Having said that, they are very stout, and as good as the D44. It's just
taht if they do break, they will strip the splines where the hubs are held
on. 35s could break them though.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41B9E9AE.4C1B0B23@***.net...
> They don't break. The two piece axles are as strong as any Dana 44,
> up until someone takes them apart to replace the seal instead of
> removing the pressed on bearing. Because they are swedged together we
> must replace the hub, too or it'l spin every time:
> http://www.----------.com/mirror/compareAMCdana.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> CJ5 on 35's wrote:
> >
> > Where will the stock 2 piece axles break if they do? I really just want
> > to know if it will still be towable.
> > Kevin
> > CJ5 warn 8000i, full cage, 35x12.50, 2.5" lift, 1" body
The AMC20's 2-piece axles will spin the hub off the end of the axle. The hub
is splined onto the axle, and the splines can strip, twist, or otherwise let
go of the hub. When this happens, the vehicle can not be flat towed. Hell,
you might even have trouble trailering it, because the tire will fall off.
Having said that, they are very stout, and as good as the D44. It's just
taht if they do break, they will strip the splines where the hubs are held
on. 35s could break them though.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41B9E9AE.4C1B0B23@***.net...
> They don't break. The two piece axles are as strong as any Dana 44,
> up until someone takes them apart to replace the seal instead of
> removing the pressed on bearing. Because they are swedged together we
> must replace the hub, too or it'l spin every time:
> http://www.----------.com/mirror/compareAMCdana.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> CJ5 on 35's wrote:
> >
> > Where will the stock 2 piece axles break if they do? I really just want
> > to know if it will still be towable.
> > Kevin
> > CJ5 warn 8000i, full cage, 35x12.50, 2.5" lift, 1" body
12-10-2004, 05:05 PM
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Re: AMC 20 Axle Break
YOU ARE SO FULL OF IT, Bill!
The AMC20's 2-piece axles will spin the hub off the end of the axle. The hub
is splined onto the axle, and the splines can strip, twist, or otherwise let
go of the hub. When this happens, the vehicle can not be flat towed. Hell,
you might even have trouble trailering it, because the tire will fall off.
Having said that, they are very stout, and as good as the D44. It's just
taht if they do break, they will strip the splines where the hubs are held
on. 35s could break them though.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41B9E9AE.4C1B0B23@***.net...
> They don't break. The two piece axles are as strong as any Dana 44,
> up until someone takes them apart to replace the seal instead of
> removing the pressed on bearing. Because they are swedged together we
> must replace the hub, too or it'l spin every time:
> http://www.----------.com/mirror/compareAMCdana.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> CJ5 on 35's wrote:
> >
> > Where will the stock 2 piece axles break if they do? I really just want
> > to know if it will still be towable.
> > Kevin
> > CJ5 warn 8000i, full cage, 35x12.50, 2.5" lift, 1" body
The AMC20's 2-piece axles will spin the hub off the end of the axle. The hub
is splined onto the axle, and the splines can strip, twist, or otherwise let
go of the hub. When this happens, the vehicle can not be flat towed. Hell,
you might even have trouble trailering it, because the tire will fall off.
Having said that, they are very stout, and as good as the D44. It's just
taht if they do break, they will strip the splines where the hubs are held
on. 35s could break them though.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41B9E9AE.4C1B0B23@***.net...
> They don't break. The two piece axles are as strong as any Dana 44,
> up until someone takes them apart to replace the seal instead of
> removing the pressed on bearing. Because they are swedged together we
> must replace the hub, too or it'l spin every time:
> http://www.----------.com/mirror/compareAMCdana.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> CJ5 on 35's wrote:
> >
> > Where will the stock 2 piece axles break if they do? I really just want
> > to know if it will still be towable.
> > Kevin
> > CJ5 warn 8000i, full cage, 35x12.50, 2.5" lift, 1" body
12-10-2004, 05:08 PM
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Re: AMC 20 Axle Break
And, you should read your bown links on occasion, the AMC20's weakness is
the two piece design, and once that is changed out to a 1-piece axle, THEN
it is as strong as the D44.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41B9E9AE.4C1B0B23@***.net...
> They don't break. The two piece axles are as strong as any Dana 44,
> up until someone takes them apart to replace the seal instead of
> removing the pressed on bearing. Because they are swedged together we
> must replace the hub, too or it'l spin every time:
> http://www.----------.com/mirror/compareAMCdana.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> CJ5 on 35's wrote:
> >
> > Where will the stock 2 piece axles break if they do? I really just want
> > to know if it will still be towable.
> > Kevin
> > CJ5 warn 8000i, full cage, 35x12.50, 2.5" lift, 1" body
the two piece design, and once that is changed out to a 1-piece axle, THEN
it is as strong as the D44.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41B9E9AE.4C1B0B23@***.net...
> They don't break. The two piece axles are as strong as any Dana 44,
> up until someone takes them apart to replace the seal instead of
> removing the pressed on bearing. Because they are swedged together we
> must replace the hub, too or it'l spin every time:
> http://www.----------.com/mirror/compareAMCdana.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> CJ5 on 35's wrote:
> >
> > Where will the stock 2 piece axles break if they do? I really just want
> > to know if it will still be towable.
> > Kevin
> > CJ5 warn 8000i, full cage, 35x12.50, 2.5" lift, 1" body
12-10-2004, 05:08 PM
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Re: AMC 20 Axle Break
And, you should read your bown links on occasion, the AMC20's weakness is
the two piece design, and once that is changed out to a 1-piece axle, THEN
it is as strong as the D44.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41B9E9AE.4C1B0B23@***.net...
> They don't break. The two piece axles are as strong as any Dana 44,
> up until someone takes them apart to replace the seal instead of
> removing the pressed on bearing. Because they are swedged together we
> must replace the hub, too or it'l spin every time:
> http://www.----------.com/mirror/compareAMCdana.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> CJ5 on 35's wrote:
> >
> > Where will the stock 2 piece axles break if they do? I really just want
> > to know if it will still be towable.
> > Kevin
> > CJ5 warn 8000i, full cage, 35x12.50, 2.5" lift, 1" body
the two piece design, and once that is changed out to a 1-piece axle, THEN
it is as strong as the D44.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41B9E9AE.4C1B0B23@***.net...
> They don't break. The two piece axles are as strong as any Dana 44,
> up until someone takes them apart to replace the seal instead of
> removing the pressed on bearing. Because they are swedged together we
> must replace the hub, too or it'l spin every time:
> http://www.----------.com/mirror/compareAMCdana.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> CJ5 on 35's wrote:
> >
> > Where will the stock 2 piece axles break if they do? I really just want
> > to know if it will still be towable.
> > Kevin
> > CJ5 warn 8000i, full cage, 35x12.50, 2.5" lift, 1" body
12-10-2004, 05:08 PM
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Re: AMC 20 Axle Break
And, you should read your bown links on occasion, the AMC20's weakness is
the two piece design, and once that is changed out to a 1-piece axle, THEN
it is as strong as the D44.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41B9E9AE.4C1B0B23@***.net...
> They don't break. The two piece axles are as strong as any Dana 44,
> up until someone takes them apart to replace the seal instead of
> removing the pressed on bearing. Because they are swedged together we
> must replace the hub, too or it'l spin every time:
> http://www.----------.com/mirror/compareAMCdana.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> CJ5 on 35's wrote:
> >
> > Where will the stock 2 piece axles break if they do? I really just want
> > to know if it will still be towable.
> > Kevin
> > CJ5 warn 8000i, full cage, 35x12.50, 2.5" lift, 1" body
the two piece design, and once that is changed out to a 1-piece axle, THEN
it is as strong as the D44.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41B9E9AE.4C1B0B23@***.net...
> They don't break. The two piece axles are as strong as any Dana 44,
> up until someone takes them apart to replace the seal instead of
> removing the pressed on bearing. Because they are swedged together we
> must replace the hub, too or it'l spin every time:
> http://www.----------.com/mirror/compareAMCdana.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> CJ5 on 35's wrote:
> >
> > Where will the stock 2 piece axles break if they do? I really just want
> > to know if it will still be towable.
> > Kevin
> > CJ5 warn 8000i, full cage, 35x12.50, 2.5" lift, 1" body
12-10-2004, 05:28 PM
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Re: AMC 20 Axle Break
"CJ5 on 35's" <kmoses@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Where will the stock 2 piece axles break if they do? I really just want
> to know if it will still be towable.
> Kevin
> CJ5 warn 8000i, full cage, 35x12.50, 2.5" lift, 1" body
I forget, but I think it depends.
The hub is held on be a large bolt, but the part that breaks does not
physically break off, it strips. So, the wheel should remain in place by the
bolt, it just will not be driven by the drive train because the axle splines
strip off. The splines strip because the axle twists, and this can allow the
bolt to snap off in some cases. As long as the bolt remains entact, the tire
should stay on. It would suck to have your tire go rolling by though.
12-10-2004, 05:28 PM
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Re: AMC 20 Axle Break
"CJ5 on 35's" <kmoses@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1102692053.475288.221900@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> Where will the stock 2 piece axles break if they do? I really just want
> to know if it will still be towable.
> Kevin
> CJ5 warn 8000i, full cage, 35x12.50, 2.5" lift, 1" body
I forget, but I think it depends.
The hub is held on be a large bolt, but the part that breaks does not
physically break off, it strips. So, the wheel should remain in place by the
bolt, it just will not be driven by the drive train because the axle splines
strip off. The splines strip because the axle twists, and this can allow the
bolt to snap off in some cases. As long as the bolt remains entact, the tire
should stay on. It would suck to have your tire go rolling by though.
12-10-2004, 05:28 PM
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Re: AMC 20 Axle Break
"CJ5 on 35's" <kmoses@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1102692053.475288.221900@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> Where will the stock 2 piece axles break if they do? I really just want
> to know if it will still be towable.
> Kevin
> CJ5 warn 8000i, full cage, 35x12.50, 2.5" lift, 1" body
I forget, but I think it depends.
The hub is held on be a large bolt, but the part that breaks does not
physically break off, it strips. So, the wheel should remain in place by the
bolt, it just will not be driven by the drive train because the axle splines
strip off. The splines strip because the axle twists, and this can allow the
bolt to snap off in some cases. As long as the bolt remains entact, the tire
should stay on. It would suck to have your tire go rolling by though.
12-10-2004, 05:44 PM
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Re: AMC 20 Axle Break
But, if the mechanic takes the hub off, that is WRONG! But, then I
was guilty of it, once: http://www.----------.com/amc20hub.jpg You might
get away with it if you replace the hub with a new one.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/amc20hub.jpg
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> They also never spin unless you change the leverage on them by installing
> much larger tires and bouncing them on a hillside...
>
> And since the vehicle is a CJ5, it is AT LEAST 22 years old, making it
> almost a certainty that the axles have been taken apart for one reason or
> another.
was guilty of it, once: http://www.----------.com/amc20hub.jpg You might
get away with it if you replace the hub with a new one.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/amc20hub.jpg
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> They also never spin unless you change the leverage on them by installing
> much larger tires and bouncing them on a hillside...
>
> And since the vehicle is a CJ5, it is AT LEAST 22 years old, making it
> almost a certainty that the axles have been taken apart for one reason or
> another.