Aluminum Radiator
09-10-2003, 07:26 PM
#21
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Re: Aluminum Radiator
DougW wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Crap, I start worrying when I get up to 250 or so in my CJ7, I need more
> > than a 2 core rad too.... Winch and lights blocking the air flow to the
> > rad. I then slow down to let her cool down. No problems under 70 mph
> > or holding 65 on a hot day, but run her at 80 to keep up to traffic in
> > the summer and well... No issues in the winter...
>
> Have you considered adding an auxiliary radiator? Even something
> as simple as a heater core and fan will help. Of course mounting is
> another issue. It's not like your running a sandrail.
>
> Or put some vents in the hood like the 5.9ZJ did. That would lower
> underhood temperature. Actually somewhere out there is an install
> using the old direct-air vent.. the one that popped up in front of
> the windscreen, but set on the hood to provide a large heat vent.
>
> Just a couple of random thoughts
>
> --
My problems started when I put the winch on. I then drilled two holes
in the roller fairlead top and added two Hella Black Magic lights
there. It looks really good, but....
I have air flow issues and really need a 3 or better a 4 core rad to
compensate...
The hellas are too big to put inboard on the bumper next to the winch
without blocking the front signal lights and with my lift and 33's,
outboard on the bumper is dangerous to the lights. Those Black Magics
are freaking expensive lights that were left to me in an off roading
Jeeper and long term roommate's Will (May Bruce RIP) and I want to keep
them safe. He left a set for my wife and her Cherokee too. And 'my'
Warn winch...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Crap, I start worrying when I get up to 250 or so in my CJ7, I need more
> > than a 2 core rad too.... Winch and lights blocking the air flow to the
> > rad. I then slow down to let her cool down. No problems under 70 mph
> > or holding 65 on a hot day, but run her at 80 to keep up to traffic in
> > the summer and well... No issues in the winter...
>
> Have you considered adding an auxiliary radiator? Even something
> as simple as a heater core and fan will help. Of course mounting is
> another issue. It's not like your running a sandrail.
>
> Or put some vents in the hood like the 5.9ZJ did. That would lower
> underhood temperature. Actually somewhere out there is an install
> using the old direct-air vent.. the one that popped up in front of
> the windscreen, but set on the hood to provide a large heat vent.
>
> Just a couple of random thoughts
>
> --
My problems started when I put the winch on. I then drilled two holes
in the roller fairlead top and added two Hella Black Magic lights
there. It looks really good, but....
I have air flow issues and really need a 3 or better a 4 core rad to
compensate...
The hellas are too big to put inboard on the bumper next to the winch
without blocking the front signal lights and with my lift and 33's,
outboard on the bumper is dangerous to the lights. Those Black Magics
are freaking expensive lights that were left to me in an off roading
Jeeper and long term roommate's Will (May Bruce RIP) and I want to keep
them safe. He left a set for my wife and her Cherokee too. And 'my'
Warn winch...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
09-11-2003, 05:47 AM
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Re: Aluminum Radiator
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 14:38:10 -0700, "Red Racer" <rcanden@msn.com>
wrote:
>Carlo,
>
>210 just plain makes me nervous, but unless you have a Chevy 355, or a
>siamesed bore 400 with 11:1 comp, it is probably normal.
>
On some of the GM cars I work on, the cooling fan doesn't even come on
until like 225 degrees. Then it goes off at 195.
That's what the pressure cap on the radiator is for, to keep the
boiling point of the coolant higher than 225 .
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM
wrote:
>Carlo,
>
>210 just plain makes me nervous, but unless you have a Chevy 355, or a
>siamesed bore 400 with 11:1 comp, it is probably normal.
>
On some of the GM cars I work on, the cooling fan doesn't even come on
until like 225 degrees. Then it goes off at 195.
That's what the pressure cap on the radiator is for, to keep the
boiling point of the coolant higher than 225 .
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM
09-11-2003, 05:47 AM
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Re: Aluminum Radiator
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 14:38:10 -0700, "Red Racer" <rcanden@msn.com>
wrote:
>Carlo,
>
>210 just plain makes me nervous, but unless you have a Chevy 355, or a
>siamesed bore 400 with 11:1 comp, it is probably normal.
>
On some of the GM cars I work on, the cooling fan doesn't even come on
until like 225 degrees. Then it goes off at 195.
That's what the pressure cap on the radiator is for, to keep the
boiling point of the coolant higher than 225 .
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM
wrote:
>Carlo,
>
>210 just plain makes me nervous, but unless you have a Chevy 355, or a
>siamesed bore 400 with 11:1 comp, it is probably normal.
>
On some of the GM cars I work on, the cooling fan doesn't even come on
until like 225 degrees. Then it goes off at 195.
That's what the pressure cap on the radiator is for, to keep the
boiling point of the coolant higher than 225 .
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM
09-11-2003, 09:29 AM
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Re: Aluminum Radiator
Hi Mike,
I'm betting it's all of 210 degree thermostat for Kalifornia.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Figure the thermostat isn't going to open until 195, then 210 isn't much
> above that....
>
> Also figure the odds of the gauge being 100% accurate are close to 0%...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
I'm betting it's all of 210 degree thermostat for Kalifornia.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Figure the thermostat isn't going to open until 195, then 210 isn't much
> above that....
>
> Also figure the odds of the gauge being 100% accurate are close to 0%...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
09-11-2003, 09:29 AM
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Re: Aluminum Radiator
Hi Mike,
I'm betting it's all of 210 degree thermostat for Kalifornia.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Figure the thermostat isn't going to open until 195, then 210 isn't much
> above that....
>
> Also figure the odds of the gauge being 100% accurate are close to 0%...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
I'm betting it's all of 210 degree thermostat for Kalifornia.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Figure the thermostat isn't going to open until 195, then 210 isn't much
> above that....
>
> Also figure the odds of the gauge being 100% accurate are close to 0%...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
09-11-2003, 09:39 AM
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Re: Aluminum Radiator
They make 210's?
Hmmm, that might be worth looking into for a winter t-stat. A CJ can
use all the heat it can get in the winter up here.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> I'm betting it's all of 210 degree thermostat for Kalifornia.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Figure the thermostat isn't going to open until 195, then 210 isn't much
> > above that....
> >
> > Also figure the odds of the gauge being 100% accurate are close to 0%...
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Hmmm, that might be worth looking into for a winter t-stat. A CJ can
use all the heat it can get in the winter up here.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> I'm betting it's all of 210 degree thermostat for Kalifornia.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Figure the thermostat isn't going to open until 195, then 210 isn't much
> > above that....
> >
> > Also figure the odds of the gauge being 100% accurate are close to 0%...
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
09-11-2003, 09:39 AM
#27
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Re: Aluminum Radiator
They make 210's?
Hmmm, that might be worth looking into for a winter t-stat. A CJ can
use all the heat it can get in the winter up here.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> I'm betting it's all of 210 degree thermostat for Kalifornia.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Figure the thermostat isn't going to open until 195, then 210 isn't much
> > above that....
> >
> > Also figure the odds of the gauge being 100% accurate are close to 0%...
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Hmmm, that might be worth looking into for a winter t-stat. A CJ can
use all the heat it can get in the winter up here.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> I'm betting it's all of 210 degree thermostat for Kalifornia.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Figure the thermostat isn't going to open until 195, then 210 isn't much
> > above that....
> >
> > Also figure the odds of the gauge being 100% accurate are close to 0%...
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
09-11-2003, 02:26 PM
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Re: Aluminum Radiator
>
> 210 just plain makes me nervous
Why? What is wrong with 210? That's what mine tends to run at and I
have never had a problem. Is there something I need to be worried
about at this temp?
(And anyway, if you don't like 210, couldn't you just put in a much
lower thermostat - say 160 - and solve the problem quickly? Doesn't
seem like an inherent problem with the radiator.)
> 210 just plain makes me nervous
Why? What is wrong with 210? That's what mine tends to run at and I
have never had a problem. Is there something I need to be worried
about at this temp?
(And anyway, if you don't like 210, couldn't you just put in a much
lower thermostat - say 160 - and solve the problem quickly? Doesn't
seem like an inherent problem with the radiator.)
09-11-2003, 02:26 PM
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Re: Aluminum Radiator
>
> 210 just plain makes me nervous
Why? What is wrong with 210? That's what mine tends to run at and I
have never had a problem. Is there something I need to be worried
about at this temp?
(And anyway, if you don't like 210, couldn't you just put in a much
lower thermostat - say 160 - and solve the problem quickly? Doesn't
seem like an inherent problem with the radiator.)
> 210 just plain makes me nervous
Why? What is wrong with 210? That's what mine tends to run at and I
have never had a problem. Is there something I need to be worried
about at this temp?
(And anyway, if you don't like 210, couldn't you just put in a much
lower thermostat - say 160 - and solve the problem quickly? Doesn't
seem like an inherent problem with the radiator.)