Aluminum Dana 44
05-17-2006, 12:54 AM
#61
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Re: Aluminum Dana 44
Jerry, Your reply was the only one that actually relayed useful and direct
information about the durability of the 44a.
The only reply I received that was directed toward a direct comparison of
the 35c and 44a was that the rear end of your WJ can be jacked if you have
the 35c and not if you have the 44a.
I asked because I wanted to know what the real world experiences have been
and it seems that the failure rate of the 44a in normal street usage, in
respect to the active posters on this newsgroup, is 100%.
If this the case then why is it used over the 35c which is, at least,
suitable for street and mild off-road use?
I assume it is not cheaper to manufacture because then it would be used in
all WJs.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:Mzxag.532$sP1.151@fed1read07...
> You got several replies from an owner of the specific axle you asked
> about, me, and I gave you my actual real experiences with it. I also let
> you know that I had bad experiences with it in two different Grand
> Cherokees that used the exact same axle you asked about. You apparently
> didn't like my real world experience with it so I guess you only wanted
> positive experiences. I now feel like the time I spent sharing what I
> thought was help real-world experiences with you was a 100% waste of my
> time. Most people are a bit more appreciative when they receive
> thoughtful answers. What a waste of my time.
>
> billy ray wrote:
>> I guess I should not be surprised........ When the topic is something
>> ridiculous there are no limits on the number of people who are willing to
>> pass on whatever information they may have but a serious topic....
>> well... You have seen the replies...
>>
>>
>> "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:4469ebd0$0$6048$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
>>
>>>If you want to put something over on your son in law, just tell your
>>>daughter he's no good. No need to confuse the issue with facts. ;^)
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>"billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
>>>news:75ec0$4469cc1a$48311525$13706@FUSE.NET.. .
>>>
>>>>My son in law has an '03 with the factory towing package and, I am
>>>
>>>assuming,
>>>
>>>>a Dana 44a in the back.
>>>>
>>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:44696433.71B47DC7@***.net...
>>>>
>>>>> And the fact that you own an '02 WJ with a 35.
>>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>billy ray wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>As you may recall my original questions were:
>>>>>>"What is the real story with the Aluminum Dana 44 differential?
>>>>>>Just how strong (or weak) is it?
>>>>>>Does it have maintenance and reliability problems?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am just trying to get an reply that answer them....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
information about the durability of the 44a.
The only reply I received that was directed toward a direct comparison of
the 35c and 44a was that the rear end of your WJ can be jacked if you have
the 35c and not if you have the 44a.
I asked because I wanted to know what the real world experiences have been
and it seems that the failure rate of the 44a in normal street usage, in
respect to the active posters on this newsgroup, is 100%.
If this the case then why is it used over the 35c which is, at least,
suitable for street and mild off-road use?
I assume it is not cheaper to manufacture because then it would be used in
all WJs.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:Mzxag.532$sP1.151@fed1read07...
> You got several replies from an owner of the specific axle you asked
> about, me, and I gave you my actual real experiences with it. I also let
> you know that I had bad experiences with it in two different Grand
> Cherokees that used the exact same axle you asked about. You apparently
> didn't like my real world experience with it so I guess you only wanted
> positive experiences. I now feel like the time I spent sharing what I
> thought was help real-world experiences with you was a 100% waste of my
> time. Most people are a bit more appreciative when they receive
> thoughtful answers. What a waste of my time.
>
> billy ray wrote:
>> I guess I should not be surprised........ When the topic is something
>> ridiculous there are no limits on the number of people who are willing to
>> pass on whatever information they may have but a serious topic....
>> well... You have seen the replies...
>>
>>
>> "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:4469ebd0$0$6048$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
>>
>>>If you want to put something over on your son in law, just tell your
>>>daughter he's no good. No need to confuse the issue with facts. ;^)
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>"billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
>>>news:75ec0$4469cc1a$48311525$13706@FUSE.NET.. .
>>>
>>>>My son in law has an '03 with the factory towing package and, I am
>>>
>>>assuming,
>>>
>>>>a Dana 44a in the back.
>>>>
>>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:44696433.71B47DC7@***.net...
>>>>
>>>>> And the fact that you own an '02 WJ with a 35.
>>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>billy ray wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>As you may recall my original questions were:
>>>>>>"What is the real story with the Aluminum Dana 44 differential?
>>>>>>Just how strong (or weak) is it?
>>>>>>Does it have maintenance and reliability problems?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am just trying to get an reply that answer them....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
05-17-2006, 03:18 AM
#62
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Re: Aluminum Dana 44
To correct your assumption, Daimler's ***** made the decision
several years ago to destroy the Jeep name that won the war, and
destroyed their mother land. With the four door, short wheel base, they
are right on course. Sieg Heil!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
billy ray wrote:
>
> Jerry, Your reply was the only one that actually relayed useful and direct
> information about the durability of the 44a.
>
> The only reply I received that was directed toward a direct comparison of
> the 35c and 44a was that the rear end of your WJ can be jacked if you have
> the 35c and not if you have the 44a.
>
> I asked because I wanted to know what the real world experiences have been
> and it seems that the failure rate of the 44a in normal street usage, in
> respect to the active posters on this newsgroup, is 100%.
>
> If this the case then why is it used over the 35c which is, at least,
> suitable for street and mild off-road use?
>
> I assume it is not cheaper to manufacture because then it would be used in
> all WJs.
several years ago to destroy the Jeep name that won the war, and
destroyed their mother land. With the four door, short wheel base, they
are right on course. Sieg Heil!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
billy ray wrote:
>
> Jerry, Your reply was the only one that actually relayed useful and direct
> information about the durability of the 44a.
>
> The only reply I received that was directed toward a direct comparison of
> the 35c and 44a was that the rear end of your WJ can be jacked if you have
> the 35c and not if you have the 44a.
>
> I asked because I wanted to know what the real world experiences have been
> and it seems that the failure rate of the 44a in normal street usage, in
> respect to the active posters on this newsgroup, is 100%.
>
> If this the case then why is it used over the 35c which is, at least,
> suitable for street and mild off-road use?
>
> I assume it is not cheaper to manufacture because then it would be used in
> all WJs.
05-17-2006, 03:18 AM
#63
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Posts: n/a
Re: Aluminum Dana 44
To correct your assumption, Daimler's ***** made the decision
several years ago to destroy the Jeep name that won the war, and
destroyed their mother land. With the four door, short wheel base, they
are right on course. Sieg Heil!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
billy ray wrote:
>
> Jerry, Your reply was the only one that actually relayed useful and direct
> information about the durability of the 44a.
>
> The only reply I received that was directed toward a direct comparison of
> the 35c and 44a was that the rear end of your WJ can be jacked if you have
> the 35c and not if you have the 44a.
>
> I asked because I wanted to know what the real world experiences have been
> and it seems that the failure rate of the 44a in normal street usage, in
> respect to the active posters on this newsgroup, is 100%.
>
> If this the case then why is it used over the 35c which is, at least,
> suitable for street and mild off-road use?
>
> I assume it is not cheaper to manufacture because then it would be used in
> all WJs.
several years ago to destroy the Jeep name that won the war, and
destroyed their mother land. With the four door, short wheel base, they
are right on course. Sieg Heil!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
billy ray wrote:
>
> Jerry, Your reply was the only one that actually relayed useful and direct
> information about the durability of the 44a.
>
> The only reply I received that was directed toward a direct comparison of
> the 35c and 44a was that the rear end of your WJ can be jacked if you have
> the 35c and not if you have the 44a.
>
> I asked because I wanted to know what the real world experiences have been
> and it seems that the failure rate of the 44a in normal street usage, in
> respect to the active posters on this newsgroup, is 100%.
>
> If this the case then why is it used over the 35c which is, at least,
> suitable for street and mild off-road use?
>
> I assume it is not cheaper to manufacture because then it would be used in
> all WJs.
05-17-2006, 03:18 AM
#64
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Aluminum Dana 44
To correct your assumption, Daimler's ***** made the decision
several years ago to destroy the Jeep name that won the war, and
destroyed their mother land. With the four door, short wheel base, they
are right on course. Sieg Heil!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
billy ray wrote:
>
> Jerry, Your reply was the only one that actually relayed useful and direct
> information about the durability of the 44a.
>
> The only reply I received that was directed toward a direct comparison of
> the 35c and 44a was that the rear end of your WJ can be jacked if you have
> the 35c and not if you have the 44a.
>
> I asked because I wanted to know what the real world experiences have been
> and it seems that the failure rate of the 44a in normal street usage, in
> respect to the active posters on this newsgroup, is 100%.
>
> If this the case then why is it used over the 35c which is, at least,
> suitable for street and mild off-road use?
>
> I assume it is not cheaper to manufacture because then it would be used in
> all WJs.
several years ago to destroy the Jeep name that won the war, and
destroyed their mother land. With the four door, short wheel base, they
are right on course. Sieg Heil!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
billy ray wrote:
>
> Jerry, Your reply was the only one that actually relayed useful and direct
> information about the durability of the 44a.
>
> The only reply I received that was directed toward a direct comparison of
> the 35c and 44a was that the rear end of your WJ can be jacked if you have
> the 35c and not if you have the 44a.
>
> I asked because I wanted to know what the real world experiences have been
> and it seems that the failure rate of the 44a in normal street usage, in
> respect to the active posters on this newsgroup, is 100%.
>
> If this the case then why is it used over the 35c which is, at least,
> suitable for street and mild off-road use?
>
> I assume it is not cheaper to manufacture because then it would be used in
> all WJs.
05-17-2006, 08:42 AM
#65
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Re: Aluminum Dana 44
Bill:
The ***** called their country the father land. The Russians called their
country the mother land.
Tom
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:446ACE33.EE2BA245@***.net...
> To correct your assumption, Daimler's ***** made the decision
> several years ago to destroy the Jeep name that won the war, and
> destroyed their mother land. With the four door, short wheel base, they
> are right on course. Sieg Heil!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
The ***** called their country the father land. The Russians called their
country the mother land.
Tom
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:446ACE33.EE2BA245@***.net...
> To correct your assumption, Daimler's ***** made the decision
> several years ago to destroy the Jeep name that won the war, and
> destroyed their mother land. With the four door, short wheel base, they
> are right on course. Sieg Heil!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
05-17-2006, 08:42 AM
#66
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Posts: n/a
Re: Aluminum Dana 44
Bill:
The ***** called their country the father land. The Russians called their
country the mother land.
Tom
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:446ACE33.EE2BA245@***.net...
> To correct your assumption, Daimler's ***** made the decision
> several years ago to destroy the Jeep name that won the war, and
> destroyed their mother land. With the four door, short wheel base, they
> are right on course. Sieg Heil!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
The ***** called their country the father land. The Russians called their
country the mother land.
Tom
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:446ACE33.EE2BA245@***.net...
> To correct your assumption, Daimler's ***** made the decision
> several years ago to destroy the Jeep name that won the war, and
> destroyed their mother land. With the four door, short wheel base, they
> are right on course. Sieg Heil!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
05-17-2006, 08:42 AM
#67
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Aluminum Dana 44
Bill:
The ***** called their country the father land. The Russians called their
country the mother land.
Tom
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:446ACE33.EE2BA245@***.net...
> To correct your assumption, Daimler's ***** made the decision
> several years ago to destroy the Jeep name that won the war, and
> destroyed their mother land. With the four door, short wheel base, they
> are right on course. Sieg Heil!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
The ***** called their country the father land. The Russians called their
country the mother land.
Tom
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:446ACE33.EE2BA245@***.net...
> To correct your assumption, Daimler's ***** made the decision
> several years ago to destroy the Jeep name that won the war, and
> destroyed their mother land. With the four door, short wheel base, they
> are right on course. Sieg Heil!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
05-17-2006, 11:36 AM
#68
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Re: Aluminum Dana 44
Because, Billy Ray, perception is reality. The 44 or 44a has a bigger ring
gear, and a higher model number, so it must be the better axle. It just
must be.
Back in the real world, posters here have reported that the 35c is not up to
the abuse that a 4.0 liter engine can dish out. One fellow that I am
thinking of reported, that he only subjected it to "street and mild off-road
use", but he is a member of the Mile High Jeepers Club, uh huh. Those guys
never abuse equipment. Then there is Bill's page, with all the axle shafts
pulled out and the hokey rendition of "Lucille". I am thinking that the 35c
is pretty evenly matched with the 2.5 liter fuel injected engine that I
have, or the wimpy 258 cid carbureted engine in Mike's CJ7 ;^), but it is
not for V8 use or towing.
According to Jerry's excellent post, to which you failed to render
sufficient homage, the 44a isn't either.
Earle
"billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
news:de194$446aac84$48311525$29794@FUSE.NET...
> Jerry, Your reply was the only one that actually relayed useful and
direct
> information about the durability of the 44a.
>
> The only reply I received that was directed toward a direct comparison of
> the 35c and 44a was that the rear end of your WJ can be jacked if you have
> the 35c and not if you have the 44a.
>
> I asked because I wanted to know what the real world experiences have
been
> and it seems that the failure rate of the 44a in normal street usage, in
> respect to the active posters on this newsgroup, is 100%.
>
> If this the case then why is it used over the 35c which is, at least,
> suitable for street and mild off-road use?
>
> I assume it is not cheaper to manufacture because then it would be used in
> all WJs.
>
>
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:Mzxag.532$sP1.151@fed1read07...
> > You got several replies from an owner of the specific axle you asked
> > about, me, and I gave you my actual real experiences with it. I also
let
> > you know that I had bad experiences with it in two different Grand
> > Cherokees that used the exact same axle you asked about. You apparently
> > didn't like my real world experience with it so I guess you only wanted
> > positive experiences. I now feel like the time I spent sharing what I
> > thought was help real-world experiences with you was a 100% waste of my
> > time. Most people are a bit more appreciative when they receive
> > thoughtful answers. What a waste of my time.
> >
> > billy ray wrote:
> >> I guess I should not be surprised........ When the topic is something
> >> ridiculous there are no limits on the number of people who are willing
to
> >> pass on whatever information they may have but a serious topic....
> >> well... You have seen the replies...
> >>
> >>
> >> "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> news:4469ebd0$0$6048$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> >>
> >>>If you want to put something over on your son in law, just tell your
> >>>daughter he's no good. No need to confuse the issue with facts. ;^)
> >>>
> >>>Earle
> >>>
> >>>"billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:75ec0$4469cc1a$48311525$13706@FUSE.NET.. .
> >>>
> >>>>My son in law has an '03 with the factory towing package and, I am
> >>>
> >>>assuming,
> >>>
> >>>>a Dana 44a in the back.
> >>>>
> >>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >>>>news:44696433.71B47DC7@***.net...
> >>>>
> >>>>> And the fact that you own an '02 WJ with a 35.
> >>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>>>>
> >>>>>billy ray wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Yes,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>As you may recall my original questions were:
> >>>>>>"What is the real story with the Aluminum Dana 44 differential?
> >>>>>>Just how strong (or weak) is it?
> >>>>>>Does it have maintenance and reliability problems?"
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I am just trying to get an reply that answer them....
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
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gear, and a higher model number, so it must be the better axle. It just
must be.
Back in the real world, posters here have reported that the 35c is not up to
the abuse that a 4.0 liter engine can dish out. One fellow that I am
thinking of reported, that he only subjected it to "street and mild off-road
use", but he is a member of the Mile High Jeepers Club, uh huh. Those guys
never abuse equipment. Then there is Bill's page, with all the axle shafts
pulled out and the hokey rendition of "Lucille". I am thinking that the 35c
is pretty evenly matched with the 2.5 liter fuel injected engine that I
have, or the wimpy 258 cid carbureted engine in Mike's CJ7 ;^), but it is
not for V8 use or towing.
According to Jerry's excellent post, to which you failed to render
sufficient homage, the 44a isn't either.
Earle
"billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
news:de194$446aac84$48311525$29794@FUSE.NET...
> Jerry, Your reply was the only one that actually relayed useful and
direct
> information about the durability of the 44a.
>
> The only reply I received that was directed toward a direct comparison of
> the 35c and 44a was that the rear end of your WJ can be jacked if you have
> the 35c and not if you have the 44a.
>
> I asked because I wanted to know what the real world experiences have
been
> and it seems that the failure rate of the 44a in normal street usage, in
> respect to the active posters on this newsgroup, is 100%.
>
> If this the case then why is it used over the 35c which is, at least,
> suitable for street and mild off-road use?
>
> I assume it is not cheaper to manufacture because then it would be used in
> all WJs.
>
>
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:Mzxag.532$sP1.151@fed1read07...
> > You got several replies from an owner of the specific axle you asked
> > about, me, and I gave you my actual real experiences with it. I also
let
> > you know that I had bad experiences with it in two different Grand
> > Cherokees that used the exact same axle you asked about. You apparently
> > didn't like my real world experience with it so I guess you only wanted
> > positive experiences. I now feel like the time I spent sharing what I
> > thought was help real-world experiences with you was a 100% waste of my
> > time. Most people are a bit more appreciative when they receive
> > thoughtful answers. What a waste of my time.
> >
> > billy ray wrote:
> >> I guess I should not be surprised........ When the topic is something
> >> ridiculous there are no limits on the number of people who are willing
to
> >> pass on whatever information they may have but a serious topic....
> >> well... You have seen the replies...
> >>
> >>
> >> "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> news:4469ebd0$0$6048$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> >>
> >>>If you want to put something over on your son in law, just tell your
> >>>daughter he's no good. No need to confuse the issue with facts. ;^)
> >>>
> >>>Earle
> >>>
> >>>"billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:75ec0$4469cc1a$48311525$13706@FUSE.NET.. .
> >>>
> >>>>My son in law has an '03 with the factory towing package and, I am
> >>>
> >>>assuming,
> >>>
> >>>>a Dana 44a in the back.
> >>>>
> >>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >>>>news:44696433.71B47DC7@***.net...
> >>>>
> >>>>> And the fact that you own an '02 WJ with a 35.
> >>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>>>>
> >>>>>billy ray wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Yes,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>As you may recall my original questions were:
> >>>>>>"What is the real story with the Aluminum Dana 44 differential?
> >>>>>>Just how strong (or weak) is it?
> >>>>>>Does it have maintenance and reliability problems?"
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I am just trying to get an reply that answer them....
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
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05-17-2006, 11:36 AM
#69
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Aluminum Dana 44
Because, Billy Ray, perception is reality. The 44 or 44a has a bigger ring
gear, and a higher model number, so it must be the better axle. It just
must be.
Back in the real world, posters here have reported that the 35c is not up to
the abuse that a 4.0 liter engine can dish out. One fellow that I am
thinking of reported, that he only subjected it to "street and mild off-road
use", but he is a member of the Mile High Jeepers Club, uh huh. Those guys
never abuse equipment. Then there is Bill's page, with all the axle shafts
pulled out and the hokey rendition of "Lucille". I am thinking that the 35c
is pretty evenly matched with the 2.5 liter fuel injected engine that I
have, or the wimpy 258 cid carbureted engine in Mike's CJ7 ;^), but it is
not for V8 use or towing.
According to Jerry's excellent post, to which you failed to render
sufficient homage, the 44a isn't either.
Earle
"billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
news:de194$446aac84$48311525$29794@FUSE.NET...
> Jerry, Your reply was the only one that actually relayed useful and
direct
> information about the durability of the 44a.
>
> The only reply I received that was directed toward a direct comparison of
> the 35c and 44a was that the rear end of your WJ can be jacked if you have
> the 35c and not if you have the 44a.
>
> I asked because I wanted to know what the real world experiences have
been
> and it seems that the failure rate of the 44a in normal street usage, in
> respect to the active posters on this newsgroup, is 100%.
>
> If this the case then why is it used over the 35c which is, at least,
> suitable for street and mild off-road use?
>
> I assume it is not cheaper to manufacture because then it would be used in
> all WJs.
>
>
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:Mzxag.532$sP1.151@fed1read07...
> > You got several replies from an owner of the specific axle you asked
> > about, me, and I gave you my actual real experiences with it. I also
let
> > you know that I had bad experiences with it in two different Grand
> > Cherokees that used the exact same axle you asked about. You apparently
> > didn't like my real world experience with it so I guess you only wanted
> > positive experiences. I now feel like the time I spent sharing what I
> > thought was help real-world experiences with you was a 100% waste of my
> > time. Most people are a bit more appreciative when they receive
> > thoughtful answers. What a waste of my time.
> >
> > billy ray wrote:
> >> I guess I should not be surprised........ When the topic is something
> >> ridiculous there are no limits on the number of people who are willing
to
> >> pass on whatever information they may have but a serious topic....
> >> well... You have seen the replies...
> >>
> >>
> >> "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> news:4469ebd0$0$6048$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> >>
> >>>If you want to put something over on your son in law, just tell your
> >>>daughter he's no good. No need to confuse the issue with facts. ;^)
> >>>
> >>>Earle
> >>>
> >>>"billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:75ec0$4469cc1a$48311525$13706@FUSE.NET.. .
> >>>
> >>>>My son in law has an '03 with the factory towing package and, I am
> >>>
> >>>assuming,
> >>>
> >>>>a Dana 44a in the back.
> >>>>
> >>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >>>>news:44696433.71B47DC7@***.net...
> >>>>
> >>>>> And the fact that you own an '02 WJ with a 35.
> >>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>>>>
> >>>>>billy ray wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Yes,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>As you may recall my original questions were:
> >>>>>>"What is the real story with the Aluminum Dana 44 differential?
> >>>>>>Just how strong (or weak) is it?
> >>>>>>Does it have maintenance and reliability problems?"
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I am just trying to get an reply that answer them....
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
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gear, and a higher model number, so it must be the better axle. It just
must be.
Back in the real world, posters here have reported that the 35c is not up to
the abuse that a 4.0 liter engine can dish out. One fellow that I am
thinking of reported, that he only subjected it to "street and mild off-road
use", but he is a member of the Mile High Jeepers Club, uh huh. Those guys
never abuse equipment. Then there is Bill's page, with all the axle shafts
pulled out and the hokey rendition of "Lucille". I am thinking that the 35c
is pretty evenly matched with the 2.5 liter fuel injected engine that I
have, or the wimpy 258 cid carbureted engine in Mike's CJ7 ;^), but it is
not for V8 use or towing.
According to Jerry's excellent post, to which you failed to render
sufficient homage, the 44a isn't either.
Earle
"billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
news:de194$446aac84$48311525$29794@FUSE.NET...
> Jerry, Your reply was the only one that actually relayed useful and
direct
> information about the durability of the 44a.
>
> The only reply I received that was directed toward a direct comparison of
> the 35c and 44a was that the rear end of your WJ can be jacked if you have
> the 35c and not if you have the 44a.
>
> I asked because I wanted to know what the real world experiences have
been
> and it seems that the failure rate of the 44a in normal street usage, in
> respect to the active posters on this newsgroup, is 100%.
>
> If this the case then why is it used over the 35c which is, at least,
> suitable for street and mild off-road use?
>
> I assume it is not cheaper to manufacture because then it would be used in
> all WJs.
>
>
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:Mzxag.532$sP1.151@fed1read07...
> > You got several replies from an owner of the specific axle you asked
> > about, me, and I gave you my actual real experiences with it. I also
let
> > you know that I had bad experiences with it in two different Grand
> > Cherokees that used the exact same axle you asked about. You apparently
> > didn't like my real world experience with it so I guess you only wanted
> > positive experiences. I now feel like the time I spent sharing what I
> > thought was help real-world experiences with you was a 100% waste of my
> > time. Most people are a bit more appreciative when they receive
> > thoughtful answers. What a waste of my time.
> >
> > billy ray wrote:
> >> I guess I should not be surprised........ When the topic is something
> >> ridiculous there are no limits on the number of people who are willing
to
> >> pass on whatever information they may have but a serious topic....
> >> well... You have seen the replies...
> >>
> >>
> >> "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> news:4469ebd0$0$6048$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> >>
> >>>If you want to put something over on your son in law, just tell your
> >>>daughter he's no good. No need to confuse the issue with facts. ;^)
> >>>
> >>>Earle
> >>>
> >>>"billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:75ec0$4469cc1a$48311525$13706@FUSE.NET.. .
> >>>
> >>>>My son in law has an '03 with the factory towing package and, I am
> >>>
> >>>assuming,
> >>>
> >>>>a Dana 44a in the back.
> >>>>
> >>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >>>>news:44696433.71B47DC7@***.net...
> >>>>
> >>>>> And the fact that you own an '02 WJ with a 35.
> >>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>>>>
> >>>>>billy ray wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Yes,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>As you may recall my original questions were:
> >>>>>>"What is the real story with the Aluminum Dana 44 differential?
> >>>>>>Just how strong (or weak) is it?
> >>>>>>Does it have maintenance and reliability problems?"
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I am just trying to get an reply that answer them....
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
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05-17-2006, 11:36 AM
#70
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Re: Aluminum Dana 44
Because, Billy Ray, perception is reality. The 44 or 44a has a bigger ring
gear, and a higher model number, so it must be the better axle. It just
must be.
Back in the real world, posters here have reported that the 35c is not up to
the abuse that a 4.0 liter engine can dish out. One fellow that I am
thinking of reported, that he only subjected it to "street and mild off-road
use", but he is a member of the Mile High Jeepers Club, uh huh. Those guys
never abuse equipment. Then there is Bill's page, with all the axle shafts
pulled out and the hokey rendition of "Lucille". I am thinking that the 35c
is pretty evenly matched with the 2.5 liter fuel injected engine that I
have, or the wimpy 258 cid carbureted engine in Mike's CJ7 ;^), but it is
not for V8 use or towing.
According to Jerry's excellent post, to which you failed to render
sufficient homage, the 44a isn't either.
Earle
"billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
news:de194$446aac84$48311525$29794@FUSE.NET...
> Jerry, Your reply was the only one that actually relayed useful and
direct
> information about the durability of the 44a.
>
> The only reply I received that was directed toward a direct comparison of
> the 35c and 44a was that the rear end of your WJ can be jacked if you have
> the 35c and not if you have the 44a.
>
> I asked because I wanted to know what the real world experiences have
been
> and it seems that the failure rate of the 44a in normal street usage, in
> respect to the active posters on this newsgroup, is 100%.
>
> If this the case then why is it used over the 35c which is, at least,
> suitable for street and mild off-road use?
>
> I assume it is not cheaper to manufacture because then it would be used in
> all WJs.
>
>
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:Mzxag.532$sP1.151@fed1read07...
> > You got several replies from an owner of the specific axle you asked
> > about, me, and I gave you my actual real experiences with it. I also
let
> > you know that I had bad experiences with it in two different Grand
> > Cherokees that used the exact same axle you asked about. You apparently
> > didn't like my real world experience with it so I guess you only wanted
> > positive experiences. I now feel like the time I spent sharing what I
> > thought was help real-world experiences with you was a 100% waste of my
> > time. Most people are a bit more appreciative when they receive
> > thoughtful answers. What a waste of my time.
> >
> > billy ray wrote:
> >> I guess I should not be surprised........ When the topic is something
> >> ridiculous there are no limits on the number of people who are willing
to
> >> pass on whatever information they may have but a serious topic....
> >> well... You have seen the replies...
> >>
> >>
> >> "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> news:4469ebd0$0$6048$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> >>
> >>>If you want to put something over on your son in law, just tell your
> >>>daughter he's no good. No need to confuse the issue with facts. ;^)
> >>>
> >>>Earle
> >>>
> >>>"billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:75ec0$4469cc1a$48311525$13706@FUSE.NET.. .
> >>>
> >>>>My son in law has an '03 with the factory towing package and, I am
> >>>
> >>>assuming,
> >>>
> >>>>a Dana 44a in the back.
> >>>>
> >>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >>>>news:44696433.71B47DC7@***.net...
> >>>>
> >>>>> And the fact that you own an '02 WJ with a 35.
> >>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>>>>
> >>>>>billy ray wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Yes,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>As you may recall my original questions were:
> >>>>>>"What is the real story with the Aluminum Dana 44 differential?
> >>>>>>Just how strong (or weak) is it?
> >>>>>>Does it have maintenance and reliability problems?"
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I am just trying to get an reply that answer them....
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
*** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***
gear, and a higher model number, so it must be the better axle. It just
must be.
Back in the real world, posters here have reported that the 35c is not up to
the abuse that a 4.0 liter engine can dish out. One fellow that I am
thinking of reported, that he only subjected it to "street and mild off-road
use", but he is a member of the Mile High Jeepers Club, uh huh. Those guys
never abuse equipment. Then there is Bill's page, with all the axle shafts
pulled out and the hokey rendition of "Lucille". I am thinking that the 35c
is pretty evenly matched with the 2.5 liter fuel injected engine that I
have, or the wimpy 258 cid carbureted engine in Mike's CJ7 ;^), but it is
not for V8 use or towing.
According to Jerry's excellent post, to which you failed to render
sufficient homage, the 44a isn't either.
Earle
"billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
news:de194$446aac84$48311525$29794@FUSE.NET...
> Jerry, Your reply was the only one that actually relayed useful and
direct
> information about the durability of the 44a.
>
> The only reply I received that was directed toward a direct comparison of
> the 35c and 44a was that the rear end of your WJ can be jacked if you have
> the 35c and not if you have the 44a.
>
> I asked because I wanted to know what the real world experiences have
been
> and it seems that the failure rate of the 44a in normal street usage, in
> respect to the active posters on this newsgroup, is 100%.
>
> If this the case then why is it used over the 35c which is, at least,
> suitable for street and mild off-road use?
>
> I assume it is not cheaper to manufacture because then it would be used in
> all WJs.
>
>
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:Mzxag.532$sP1.151@fed1read07...
> > You got several replies from an owner of the specific axle you asked
> > about, me, and I gave you my actual real experiences with it. I also
let
> > you know that I had bad experiences with it in two different Grand
> > Cherokees that used the exact same axle you asked about. You apparently
> > didn't like my real world experience with it so I guess you only wanted
> > positive experiences. I now feel like the time I spent sharing what I
> > thought was help real-world experiences with you was a 100% waste of my
> > time. Most people are a bit more appreciative when they receive
> > thoughtful answers. What a waste of my time.
> >
> > billy ray wrote:
> >> I guess I should not be surprised........ When the topic is something
> >> ridiculous there are no limits on the number of people who are willing
to
> >> pass on whatever information they may have but a serious topic....
> >> well... You have seen the replies...
> >>
> >>
> >> "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> news:4469ebd0$0$6048$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> >>
> >>>If you want to put something over on your son in law, just tell your
> >>>daughter he's no good. No need to confuse the issue with facts. ;^)
> >>>
> >>>Earle
> >>>
> >>>"billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:75ec0$4469cc1a$48311525$13706@FUSE.NET.. .
> >>>
> >>>>My son in law has an '03 with the factory towing package and, I am
> >>>
> >>>assuming,
> >>>
> >>>>a Dana 44a in the back.
> >>>>
> >>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >>>>news:44696433.71B47DC7@***.net...
> >>>>
> >>>>> And the fact that you own an '02 WJ with a 35.
> >>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>>>>
> >>>>>billy ray wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Yes,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>As you may recall my original questions were:
> >>>>>>"What is the real story with the Aluminum Dana 44 differential?
> >>>>>>Just how strong (or weak) is it?
> >>>>>>Does it have maintenance and reliability problems?"
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I am just trying to get an reply that answer them....
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
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