Jay Pique

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 13:24:47 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:

>Hi Jay,
> It's the off road lights and winch, that use the power. Unless your
>planning on a bunch of fifteen inch load speakers. Have your battery and
>alternator check at your local parts store, and know for sure. And I've
>applied the warranty towards an upgrade, ask.

No winch yet, but when I turn on the lights the ammeter dips and stays
dipped until I turn them off again. It doesn't kill the car entirely
- I can still continue to drive.

I'm thinking a HO alternator and a deep cycle battery.

JP



> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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>
>Jay Pique wrote:
>>
>> So I've got a bad alternator and or a shot battery. I'm guessing it's
>> both. If I'm to replace the alternator I think I'd rather get one
>> that's relatively heavy duty. I'm not planning on putting multiple
>> batteries in, but I'd like to power a little bit stronger stereo than
>> the stock cassette deck.
>>
>> I've been googling a bit, and have seen HO alternators, rebuilt
>> alternators and plenty of batteries. I'm also wondering if I should
>> be looking at anything else. The electrical system (including
>> alternator) is under warranty, so I'm hoping to get it all taken care
>> of in one swoop.
>>
>> JP

Jay Pique

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 13:24:47 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:

>Hi Jay,
> It's the off road lights and winch, that use the power. Unless your
>planning on a bunch of fifteen inch load speakers. Have your battery and
>alternator check at your local parts store, and know for sure. And I've
>applied the warranty towards an upgrade, ask.

No winch yet, but when I turn on the lights the ammeter dips and stays
dipped until I turn them off again. It doesn't kill the car entirely
- I can still continue to drive.

I'm thinking a HO alternator and a deep cycle battery.

JP



> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Jay Pique wrote:
>>
>> So I've got a bad alternator and or a shot battery. I'm guessing it's
>> both. If I'm to replace the alternator I think I'd rather get one
>> that's relatively heavy duty. I'm not planning on putting multiple
>> batteries in, but I'd like to power a little bit stronger stereo than
>> the stock cassette deck.
>>
>> I've been googling a bit, and have seen HO alternators, rebuilt
>> alternators and plenty of batteries. I'm also wondering if I should
>> be looking at anything else. The electrical system (including
>> alternator) is under warranty, so I'm hoping to get it all taken care
>> of in one swoop.
>>
>> JP

Jay Pique

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 13:24:47 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:

>Hi Jay,
> It's the off road lights and winch, that use the power. Unless your
>planning on a bunch of fifteen inch load speakers. Have your battery and
>alternator check at your local parts store, and know for sure. And I've
>applied the warranty towards an upgrade, ask.

No winch yet, but when I turn on the lights the ammeter dips and stays
dipped until I turn them off again. It doesn't kill the car entirely
- I can still continue to drive.

I'm thinking a HO alternator and a deep cycle battery.

JP



> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Jay Pique wrote:
>>
>> So I've got a bad alternator and or a shot battery. I'm guessing it's
>> both. If I'm to replace the alternator I think I'd rather get one
>> that's relatively heavy duty. I'm not planning on putting multiple
>> batteries in, but I'd like to power a little bit stronger stereo than
>> the stock cassette deck.
>>
>> I've been googling a bit, and have seen HO alternators, rebuilt
>> alternators and plenty of batteries. I'm also wondering if I should
>> be looking at anything else. The electrical system (including
>> alternator) is under warranty, so I'm hoping to get it all taken care
>> of in one swoop.
>>
>> JP

Mike Romain

You are talking a slipping belt, rev it too quick or load the alternator
and it slips....

Mike

Jay Pique wrote:
>
> On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 15:53:49 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >Just a heads up for you if it has V belts. A polished up belt can slip
> >while being tight which acts like an alternator only ever charging up
> >the battery 1/4 way or so.
>
> I'll check that for sure. I noticed that when I turn the lights on,
> the ammeter dips to the negative (indicating it's drawing power from
> the battery) and also dips slightly when I really rev the engine a
> little. Should that lead me to believe it's the alternator?
>
> Is this something I could test myself if I had the right tools that
> aren't ungodly expensive?
>
> JP
>
> >I test them by taking a cold off engine and seeing if I can hand slip
> >the alternator pulley. If I can make it slip by hand, it is shot and I
> >need a new belt. The alternator takes a few HP to spin up under load
> >and if it hand slips it won't charge right.
>
> >Mike
> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >Jay Pique wrote:
> >>
> >> So I've got a bad alternator and or a shot battery. I'm guessing it's
> >> both. If I'm to replace the alternator I think I'd rather get one
> >> that's relatively heavy duty. I'm not planning on putting multiple
> >> batteries in, but I'd like to power a little bit stronger stereo than
> >> the stock cassette deck.
> >>
> >> I've been googling a bit, and have seen HO alternators, rebuilt
> >> alternators and plenty of batteries. I'm also wondering if I should
> >> be looking at anything else. The electrical system (including
> >> alternator) is under warranty, so I'm hoping to get it all taken care
> >> of in one swoop.
> >>
> >> JP

Mike Romain

You are talking a slipping belt, rev it too quick or load the alternator
and it slips....

Mike

Jay Pique wrote:
>
> On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 15:53:49 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >Just a heads up for you if it has V belts. A polished up belt can slip
> >while being tight which acts like an alternator only ever charging up
> >the battery 1/4 way or so.
>
> I'll check that for sure. I noticed that when I turn the lights on,
> the ammeter dips to the negative (indicating it's drawing power from
> the battery) and also dips slightly when I really rev the engine a
> little. Should that lead me to believe it's the alternator?
>
> Is this something I could test myself if I had the right tools that
> aren't ungodly expensive?
>
> JP
>
> >I test them by taking a cold off engine and seeing if I can hand slip
> >the alternator pulley. If I can make it slip by hand, it is shot and I
> >need a new belt. The alternator takes a few HP to spin up under load
> >and if it hand slips it won't charge right.
>
> >Mike
> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >Jay Pique wrote:
> >>
> >> So I've got a bad alternator and or a shot battery. I'm guessing it's
> >> both. If I'm to replace the alternator I think I'd rather get one
> >> that's relatively heavy duty. I'm not planning on putting multiple
> >> batteries in, but I'd like to power a little bit stronger stereo than
> >> the stock cassette deck.
> >>
> >> I've been googling a bit, and have seen HO alternators, rebuilt
> >> alternators and plenty of batteries. I'm also wondering if I should
> >> be looking at anything else. The electrical system (including
> >> alternator) is under warranty, so I'm hoping to get it all taken care
> >> of in one swoop.
> >>
> >> JP

Mike Romain

You are talking a slipping belt, rev it too quick or load the alternator
and it slips....

Mike

Jay Pique wrote:
>
> On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 15:53:49 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >Just a heads up for you if it has V belts. A polished up belt can slip
> >while being tight which acts like an alternator only ever charging up
> >the battery 1/4 way or so.
>
> I'll check that for sure. I noticed that when I turn the lights on,
> the ammeter dips to the negative (indicating it's drawing power from
> the battery) and also dips slightly when I really rev the engine a
> little. Should that lead me to believe it's the alternator?
>
> Is this something I could test myself if I had the right tools that
> aren't ungodly expensive?
>
> JP
>
> >I test them by taking a cold off engine and seeing if I can hand slip
> >the alternator pulley. If I can make it slip by hand, it is shot and I
> >need a new belt. The alternator takes a few HP to spin up under load
> >and if it hand slips it won't charge right.
>
> >Mike
> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >Jay Pique wrote:
> >>
> >> So I've got a bad alternator and or a shot battery. I'm guessing it's
> >> both. If I'm to replace the alternator I think I'd rather get one
> >> that's relatively heavy duty. I'm not planning on putting multiple
> >> batteries in, but I'd like to power a little bit stronger stereo than
> >> the stock cassette deck.
> >>
> >> I've been googling a bit, and have seen HO alternators, rebuilt
> >> alternators and plenty of batteries. I'm also wondering if I should
> >> be looking at anything else. The electrical system (including
> >> alternator) is under warranty, so I'm hoping to get it all taken care
> >> of in one swoop.
> >>
> >> JP

popeyeball

Jay,
All above suggestions are good. I would fill battery with distilled
water, disconect cables and charge up on a tricle charge. If tricle
(about 2 amps) doesn't do it, give it shock with a higher amperage to
knock corrosion off plates. Make sure battery does not heat up to much
(I would do this outside - hopefully in a garage). Re-connect battery
and see if it'll start. To check belts get a bar of good ole Fels
Nappa and 'very carefully' apply to the underside of belts. This will
give you a good/ better grip temporarilly (at least I used to do this
when I was a kid and couldn't afford to replace parts). See if your
amp meter improves any. Next I would start checking voltage drops for
above mentioned items. Good Luck and be safe.
Steve

Jay Pique wrote:
> So I've got a bad alternator and or a shot battery. I'm guessing
it's
> both. If I'm to replace the alternator I think I'd rather get one
> that's relatively heavy duty. I'm not planning on putting multiple
> batteries in, but I'd like to power a little bit stronger stereo than
> the stock cassette deck.
> > I've been googling a bit, and have seen HO alternators, rebuilt
> alternators and plenty of batteries. I'm also wondering if I should
> be looking at anything else. The electrical system (including
> alternator) is under warranty, so I'm hoping to get it all taken care
> of in one swoop.
>
> JP

popeyeball

Jay,
All above suggestions are good. I would fill battery with distilled
water, disconect cables and charge up on a tricle charge. If tricle
(about 2 amps) doesn't do it, give it shock with a higher amperage to
knock corrosion off plates. Make sure battery does not heat up to much
(I would do this outside - hopefully in a garage). Re-connect battery
and see if it'll start. To check belts get a bar of good ole Fels
Nappa and 'very carefully' apply to the underside of belts. This will
give you a good/ better grip temporarilly (at least I used to do this
when I was a kid and couldn't afford to replace parts). See if your
amp meter improves any. Next I would start checking voltage drops for
above mentioned items. Good Luck and be safe.
Steve

Jay Pique wrote:
> So I've got a bad alternator and or a shot battery. I'm guessing
it's
> both. If I'm to replace the alternator I think I'd rather get one
> that's relatively heavy duty. I'm not planning on putting multiple
> batteries in, but I'd like to power a little bit stronger stereo than
> the stock cassette deck.
> > I've been googling a bit, and have seen HO alternators, rebuilt
> alternators and plenty of batteries. I'm also wondering if I should
> be looking at anything else. The electrical system (including
> alternator) is under warranty, so I'm hoping to get it all taken care
> of in one swoop.
>
> JP

popeyeball

Jay,
All above suggestions are good. I would fill battery with distilled
water, disconect cables and charge up on a tricle charge. If tricle
(about 2 amps) doesn't do it, give it shock with a higher amperage to
knock corrosion off plates. Make sure battery does not heat up to much
(I would do this outside - hopefully in a garage). Re-connect battery
and see if it'll start. To check belts get a bar of good ole Fels
Nappa and 'very carefully' apply to the underside of belts. This will
give you a good/ better grip temporarilly (at least I used to do this
when I was a kid and couldn't afford to replace parts). See if your
amp meter improves any. Next I would start checking voltage drops for
above mentioned items. Good Luck and be safe.
Steve

Jay Pique wrote:
> So I've got a bad alternator and or a shot battery. I'm guessing
it's
> both. If I'm to replace the alternator I think I'd rather get one
> that's relatively heavy duty. I'm not planning on putting multiple
> batteries in, but I'd like to power a little bit stronger stereo than
> the stock cassette deck.
> > I've been googling a bit, and have seen HO alternators, rebuilt
> alternators and plenty of batteries. I'm also wondering if I should
> be looking at anything else. The electrical system (including
> alternator) is under warranty, so I'm hoping to get it all taken care
> of in one swoop.
>
> JP