aarcuda69062

In article <MNLsi.38$vK2.27@trnddc03>,
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:

> "Ed Smith" <snuffy160@mchsi.com> wrote in message
> news:99Lsi.50325$Fc.35677@attbi_s21...
> >I have a 2001 Cherokee Sport, 4.0, auto. Recently I have started to have
> >the
> > airbag light come on for a few seconds. Sometimes the check engine light
> > comes on, sometimes it doesn't.
> >
> You are losing ground to the instrument cluster.

The buss runs independent of grounds.

aarcuda69062

In article <MNLsi.38$vK2.27@trnddc03>,
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:

> "Ed Smith" <snuffy160@mchsi.com> wrote in message
> news:99Lsi.50325$Fc.35677@attbi_s21...
> >I have a 2001 Cherokee Sport, 4.0, auto. Recently I have started to have
> >the
> > airbag light come on for a few seconds. Sometimes the check engine light
> > comes on, sometimes it doesn't.
> >
> You are losing ground to the instrument cluster.

The buss runs independent of grounds.

aarcuda69062

In article <MNLsi.38$vK2.27@trnddc03>,
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:

> "Ed Smith" <snuffy160@mchsi.com> wrote in message
> news:99Lsi.50325$Fc.35677@attbi_s21...
> >I have a 2001 Cherokee Sport, 4.0, auto. Recently I have started to have
> >the
> > airbag light come on for a few seconds. Sometimes the check engine light
> > comes on, sometimes it doesn't.
> >
> You are losing ground to the instrument cluster.

The buss runs independent of grounds.

Jeff Strickland

It's not really all that difficult. I removed the entire dashboard from one
of my cars to get to the heater core, the instrument cluster on your car
should have 4 screws in plain sight. The hard part of the job might be to
remove the steering wheel, but I'm not sure that needs to come off.





"Ed Smith" <snuffy160@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:G3Osi.50437$Fc.41381@attbi_s21...
> Thanks Jeff. Looks like I'll be pulling out the Service Manual and see how
> to remove the cluster. I'm an old guy so I know what you are talking about
> as far as the eraser goes. Have to think it's not a fun or easy job.
> Thanks so much for the info. Ed
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:MNLsi.38$vK2.27@trnddc03...
>>
>> "Ed Smith" <snuffy160@mchsi.com> wrote in message
>> news:99Lsi.50325$Fc.35677@attbi_s21...
>>>I have a 2001 Cherokee Sport, 4.0, auto. Recently I have started to have
>>>the
>>> airbag light come on for a few seconds. Sometimes the check engine light
>>> comes on, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes (not every time) when both the
>>> airbag & check engine lights are both on, I lose the tach and speedo.
>>> The
>>> airbag & check engine lights go out and everything is back to normal.
>>> Then
>>> other times the airbag, check engine stay on, I lose tach and speedo AND
>>> all
>>> other gauges plus I get a "no buss" warning where normally the mileage
>>> shows
>>> up..but again not every time. This occurs for usually no longer than
>>> around
>>> 30 secs or so. However recently the time seems to be getting longer
>>> before
>>> everything reverts back to normal. I thought a loose connection
>>> someplace,
>>> but it occurs on smooth surface streets and has not happened (yet) when
>>> I
>>> was on a rough road. Maybe a corroded connector? If so where and which
>>> ones
>>> would I clean? Any suggestions as to what the heck is going on or where
>>> I
>>> should look would be appreciated. Thanks Ed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> You are losing ground to the instrument cluster. You have to remove the
>> cluster and polish the edge connectors with very fine sand paper or one
>> of those pencil-type erasers with the brush on one end. Back in the olden
>> days of typewriters (the devices that gave us our common day keyboards),
>> when a mistake was made we had to pull out the typewriter eraser -- it
>> looks just like a pencil, but is entirely rubber on the inside and has a
>> brush on one end -- to remove the errant character(s) before moving on.
>> This eraser is the kind you want to use to polish the edge connectors. If
>> you can't find an eraser like this, then something like 600 grit sand
>> paper should do the trick. Maybe some contact cleaner as well ...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Jeff Strickland

It's not really all that difficult. I removed the entire dashboard from one
of my cars to get to the heater core, the instrument cluster on your car
should have 4 screws in plain sight. The hard part of the job might be to
remove the steering wheel, but I'm not sure that needs to come off.





"Ed Smith" <snuffy160@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:G3Osi.50437$Fc.41381@attbi_s21...
> Thanks Jeff. Looks like I'll be pulling out the Service Manual and see how
> to remove the cluster. I'm an old guy so I know what you are talking about
> as far as the eraser goes. Have to think it's not a fun or easy job.
> Thanks so much for the info. Ed
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:MNLsi.38$vK2.27@trnddc03...
>>
>> "Ed Smith" <snuffy160@mchsi.com> wrote in message
>> news:99Lsi.50325$Fc.35677@attbi_s21...
>>>I have a 2001 Cherokee Sport, 4.0, auto. Recently I have started to have
>>>the
>>> airbag light come on for a few seconds. Sometimes the check engine light
>>> comes on, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes (not every time) when both the
>>> airbag & check engine lights are both on, I lose the tach and speedo.
>>> The
>>> airbag & check engine lights go out and everything is back to normal.
>>> Then
>>> other times the airbag, check engine stay on, I lose tach and speedo AND
>>> all
>>> other gauges plus I get a "no buss" warning where normally the mileage
>>> shows
>>> up..but again not every time. This occurs for usually no longer than
>>> around
>>> 30 secs or so. However recently the time seems to be getting longer
>>> before
>>> everything reverts back to normal. I thought a loose connection
>>> someplace,
>>> but it occurs on smooth surface streets and has not happened (yet) when
>>> I
>>> was on a rough road. Maybe a corroded connector? If so where and which
>>> ones
>>> would I clean? Any suggestions as to what the heck is going on or where
>>> I
>>> should look would be appreciated. Thanks Ed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> You are losing ground to the instrument cluster. You have to remove the
>> cluster and polish the edge connectors with very fine sand paper or one
>> of those pencil-type erasers with the brush on one end. Back in the olden
>> days of typewriters (the devices that gave us our common day keyboards),
>> when a mistake was made we had to pull out the typewriter eraser -- it
>> looks just like a pencil, but is entirely rubber on the inside and has a
>> brush on one end -- to remove the errant character(s) before moving on.
>> This eraser is the kind you want to use to polish the edge connectors. If
>> you can't find an eraser like this, then something like 600 grit sand
>> paper should do the trick. Maybe some contact cleaner as well ...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Jeff Strickland

It's not really all that difficult. I removed the entire dashboard from one
of my cars to get to the heater core, the instrument cluster on your car
should have 4 screws in plain sight. The hard part of the job might be to
remove the steering wheel, but I'm not sure that needs to come off.





"Ed Smith" <snuffy160@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:G3Osi.50437$Fc.41381@attbi_s21...
> Thanks Jeff. Looks like I'll be pulling out the Service Manual and see how
> to remove the cluster. I'm an old guy so I know what you are talking about
> as far as the eraser goes. Have to think it's not a fun or easy job.
> Thanks so much for the info. Ed
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:MNLsi.38$vK2.27@trnddc03...
>>
>> "Ed Smith" <snuffy160@mchsi.com> wrote in message
>> news:99Lsi.50325$Fc.35677@attbi_s21...
>>>I have a 2001 Cherokee Sport, 4.0, auto. Recently I have started to have
>>>the
>>> airbag light come on for a few seconds. Sometimes the check engine light
>>> comes on, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes (not every time) when both the
>>> airbag & check engine lights are both on, I lose the tach and speedo.
>>> The
>>> airbag & check engine lights go out and everything is back to normal.
>>> Then
>>> other times the airbag, check engine stay on, I lose tach and speedo AND
>>> all
>>> other gauges plus I get a "no buss" warning where normally the mileage
>>> shows
>>> up..but again not every time. This occurs for usually no longer than
>>> around
>>> 30 secs or so. However recently the time seems to be getting longer
>>> before
>>> everything reverts back to normal. I thought a loose connection
>>> someplace,
>>> but it occurs on smooth surface streets and has not happened (yet) when
>>> I
>>> was on a rough road. Maybe a corroded connector? If so where and which
>>> ones
>>> would I clean? Any suggestions as to what the heck is going on or where
>>> I
>>> should look would be appreciated. Thanks Ed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> You are losing ground to the instrument cluster. You have to remove the
>> cluster and polish the edge connectors with very fine sand paper or one
>> of those pencil-type erasers with the brush on one end. Back in the olden
>> days of typewriters (the devices that gave us our common day keyboards),
>> when a mistake was made we had to pull out the typewriter eraser -- it
>> looks just like a pencil, but is entirely rubber on the inside and has a
>> brush on one end -- to remove the errant character(s) before moving on.
>> This eraser is the kind you want to use to polish the edge connectors. If
>> you can't find an eraser like this, then something like 600 grit sand
>> paper should do the trick. Maybe some contact cleaner as well ...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Jeff Strickland

It's not really all that difficult. I removed the entire dashboard from one
of my cars to get to the heater core, the instrument cluster on your car
should have 4 screws in plain sight. The hard part of the job might be to
remove the steering wheel, but I'm not sure that needs to come off.





"Ed Smith" <snuffy160@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:G3Osi.50437$Fc.41381@attbi_s21...
> Thanks Jeff. Looks like I'll be pulling out the Service Manual and see how
> to remove the cluster. I'm an old guy so I know what you are talking about
> as far as the eraser goes. Have to think it's not a fun or easy job.
> Thanks so much for the info. Ed
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:MNLsi.38$vK2.27@trnddc03...
>>
>> "Ed Smith" <snuffy160@mchsi.com> wrote in message
>> news:99Lsi.50325$Fc.35677@attbi_s21...
>>>I have a 2001 Cherokee Sport, 4.0, auto. Recently I have started to have
>>>the
>>> airbag light come on for a few seconds. Sometimes the check engine light
>>> comes on, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes (not every time) when both the
>>> airbag & check engine lights are both on, I lose the tach and speedo.
>>> The
>>> airbag & check engine lights go out and everything is back to normal.
>>> Then
>>> other times the airbag, check engine stay on, I lose tach and speedo AND
>>> all
>>> other gauges plus I get a "no buss" warning where normally the mileage
>>> shows
>>> up..but again not every time. This occurs for usually no longer than
>>> around
>>> 30 secs or so. However recently the time seems to be getting longer
>>> before
>>> everything reverts back to normal. I thought a loose connection
>>> someplace,
>>> but it occurs on smooth surface streets and has not happened (yet) when
>>> I
>>> was on a rough road. Maybe a corroded connector? If so where and which
>>> ones
>>> would I clean? Any suggestions as to what the heck is going on or where
>>> I
>>> should look would be appreciated. Thanks Ed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> You are losing ground to the instrument cluster. You have to remove the
>> cluster and polish the edge connectors with very fine sand paper or one
>> of those pencil-type erasers with the brush on one end. Back in the olden
>> days of typewriters (the devices that gave us our common day keyboards),
>> when a mistake was made we had to pull out the typewriter eraser -- it
>> looks just like a pencil, but is entirely rubber on the inside and has a
>> brush on one end -- to remove the errant character(s) before moving on.
>> This eraser is the kind you want to use to polish the edge connectors. If
>> you can't find an eraser like this, then something like 600 grit sand
>> paper should do the trick. Maybe some contact cleaner as well ...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>