Air filters that give better gas mileage
Hi all:
Okay, I'm not sure I understand this one, and would like one of you guys to help me: I've seen after market filters that claim to give better gas mileage. Now, I think the jeeps use an oxygen sensor in the exhaust system. So, since the oxygen is kept the same, how can an after market filter give better fuel economy? Is there any objective, third party test results that support their claims? Thanks Lloyd Hanning |
Re: Air filters that give better gas mileage
Lloyd Hanning did pass the time by typing:
> Hi all: > Okay, I'm not sure I understand this one, and would like one of you guys to > help me: > I've seen after market filters that claim to give better gas mileage. Now, > I think the jeeps use an oxygen sensor in the exhaust system. So, since the > oxygen is kept the same, how can an after market filter give better fuel > economy? Is there any objective, third party test results that support their > claims? The claim is the "brand x" air filter flows air more freely than "brand y". Basically, any filter is better than no filter or a clogged filter. Keeping that in mind a filter with a larger surface area will catch more dirt and probably last longer. The K&N (oiled cloth) filters are reusable but expensive. I haven't seen any "third party" tests, just a lot of vendor fluff and paid for testimonials. While we're on the subject of mileage boosters.. stay away from the snakeoil additives and air swirlly things. Unless of course you like flushing money. -- -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors |
Re: Air filters that give better gas mileage
Lloyd Hanning did pass the time by typing:
> Hi all: > Okay, I'm not sure I understand this one, and would like one of you guys to > help me: > I've seen after market filters that claim to give better gas mileage. Now, > I think the jeeps use an oxygen sensor in the exhaust system. So, since the > oxygen is kept the same, how can an after market filter give better fuel > economy? Is there any objective, third party test results that support their > claims? The claim is the "brand x" air filter flows air more freely than "brand y". Basically, any filter is better than no filter or a clogged filter. Keeping that in mind a filter with a larger surface area will catch more dirt and probably last longer. The K&N (oiled cloth) filters are reusable but expensive. I haven't seen any "third party" tests, just a lot of vendor fluff and paid for testimonials. While we're on the subject of mileage boosters.. stay away from the snakeoil additives and air swirlly things. Unless of course you like flushing money. -- -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors |
Re: Air filters that give better gas mileage
Lloyd Hanning did pass the time by typing:
> Hi all: > Okay, I'm not sure I understand this one, and would like one of you guys to > help me: > I've seen after market filters that claim to give better gas mileage. Now, > I think the jeeps use an oxygen sensor in the exhaust system. So, since the > oxygen is kept the same, how can an after market filter give better fuel > economy? Is there any objective, third party test results that support their > claims? The claim is the "brand x" air filter flows air more freely than "brand y". Basically, any filter is better than no filter or a clogged filter. Keeping that in mind a filter with a larger surface area will catch more dirt and probably last longer. The K&N (oiled cloth) filters are reusable but expensive. I haven't seen any "third party" tests, just a lot of vendor fluff and paid for testimonials. While we're on the subject of mileage boosters.. stay away from the snakeoil additives and air swirlly things. Unless of course you like flushing money. -- -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors |
Re: Air filters that give better gas mileage
I saw in a Four Wheel Magazine where they challenged some claims and,
according to their unbiased opinion of their prospective sponsors, they said the swirl thing actually did produce a measurable albeit slight gain. I wouldn't waste my money on it even if I believed it, though. My all-time favorite still has to be the "rare Earth magnet" that clamps over the fuel line. It's advertised with a pretty picture of the positively/negatively charged gasoline molecules ionically breezing through your gas line. I shouldn't throw stones, though. I could use the therapeutic peace of mind that comes from knowing that my gas is perfectly ordered into little "$$$" signs at the molecular level:) P.S. My buddy in elementary school proved to me that 1 + 1 = 1 ... o_o_o_o Best Regards, /| ,[_____], Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O- ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻ- )_) EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message news:EGa1c.23739$1k.15436@okepread01... > Lloyd Hanning did pass the time by typing: > > Hi all: > > Okay, I'm not sure I understand this one, and would like one of you guys to > > help me: > > I've seen after market filters that claim to give better gas mileage. Now, > > I think the jeeps use an oxygen sensor in the exhaust system. So, since the > > oxygen is kept the same, how can an after market filter give better fuel > > economy? Is there any objective, third party test results that support their > > claims? > > The claim is the "brand x" air filter flows air more freely than "brand y". > Basically, any filter is better than no filter or a clogged filter. Keeping > that in mind a filter with a larger surface area will catch more dirt and > probably last longer. The K&N (oiled cloth) filters are reusable but expensive. > > I haven't seen any "third party" tests, just a lot of vendor fluff and paid for > testimonials. > > While we're on the subject of mileage boosters.. stay away from the snakeoil > additives and air swirlly things. Unless of course you like flushing money. > > -- > -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond > HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks > Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors > > > > > |
Re: Air filters that give better gas mileage
I saw in a Four Wheel Magazine where they challenged some claims and,
according to their unbiased opinion of their prospective sponsors, they said the swirl thing actually did produce a measurable albeit slight gain. I wouldn't waste my money on it even if I believed it, though. My all-time favorite still has to be the "rare Earth magnet" that clamps over the fuel line. It's advertised with a pretty picture of the positively/negatively charged gasoline molecules ionically breezing through your gas line. I shouldn't throw stones, though. I could use the therapeutic peace of mind that comes from knowing that my gas is perfectly ordered into little "$$$" signs at the molecular level:) P.S. My buddy in elementary school proved to me that 1 + 1 = 1 ... o_o_o_o Best Regards, /| ,[_____], Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O- ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻ- )_) EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message news:EGa1c.23739$1k.15436@okepread01... > Lloyd Hanning did pass the time by typing: > > Hi all: > > Okay, I'm not sure I understand this one, and would like one of you guys to > > help me: > > I've seen after market filters that claim to give better gas mileage. Now, > > I think the jeeps use an oxygen sensor in the exhaust system. So, since the > > oxygen is kept the same, how can an after market filter give better fuel > > economy? Is there any objective, third party test results that support their > > claims? > > The claim is the "brand x" air filter flows air more freely than "brand y". > Basically, any filter is better than no filter or a clogged filter. Keeping > that in mind a filter with a larger surface area will catch more dirt and > probably last longer. The K&N (oiled cloth) filters are reusable but expensive. > > I haven't seen any "third party" tests, just a lot of vendor fluff and paid for > testimonials. > > While we're on the subject of mileage boosters.. stay away from the snakeoil > additives and air swirlly things. Unless of course you like flushing money. > > -- > -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond > HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks > Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors > > > > > |
Re: Air filters that give better gas mileage
I saw in a Four Wheel Magazine where they challenged some claims and,
according to their unbiased opinion of their prospective sponsors, they said the swirl thing actually did produce a measurable albeit slight gain. I wouldn't waste my money on it even if I believed it, though. My all-time favorite still has to be the "rare Earth magnet" that clamps over the fuel line. It's advertised with a pretty picture of the positively/negatively charged gasoline molecules ionically breezing through your gas line. I shouldn't throw stones, though. I could use the therapeutic peace of mind that comes from knowing that my gas is perfectly ordered into little "$$$" signs at the molecular level:) P.S. My buddy in elementary school proved to me that 1 + 1 = 1 ... o_o_o_o Best Regards, /| ,[_____], Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O- ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻ- )_) EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message news:EGa1c.23739$1k.15436@okepread01... > Lloyd Hanning did pass the time by typing: > > Hi all: > > Okay, I'm not sure I understand this one, and would like one of you guys to > > help me: > > I've seen after market filters that claim to give better gas mileage. Now, > > I think the jeeps use an oxygen sensor in the exhaust system. So, since the > > oxygen is kept the same, how can an after market filter give better fuel > > economy? Is there any objective, third party test results that support their > > claims? > > The claim is the "brand x" air filter flows air more freely than "brand y". > Basically, any filter is better than no filter or a clogged filter. Keeping > that in mind a filter with a larger surface area will catch more dirt and > probably last longer. The K&N (oiled cloth) filters are reusable but expensive. > > I haven't seen any "third party" tests, just a lot of vendor fluff and paid for > testimonials. > > While we're on the subject of mileage boosters.. stay away from the snakeoil > additives and air swirlly things. Unless of course you like flushing money. > > -- > -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond > HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks > Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors > > > > > |
Re: Air filters that give better gas mileage
I think you have it figured out just right!
New engines aren't like the old carb ones where you can add a little air and a little exhaust and get a boost. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Lloyd Hanning wrote: > > Hi all: > Okay, I'm not sure I understand this one, and would like one of you guys to > help me: > I've seen after market filters that claim to give better gas mileage. Now, > I think the jeeps use an oxygen sensor in the exhaust system. So, since the > oxygen is kept the same, how can an after market filter give better fuel > economy? Is there any objective, third party test results that support their > claims? > > Thanks > Lloyd Hanning |
Re: Air filters that give better gas mileage
I think you have it figured out just right!
New engines aren't like the old carb ones where you can add a little air and a little exhaust and get a boost. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Lloyd Hanning wrote: > > Hi all: > Okay, I'm not sure I understand this one, and would like one of you guys to > help me: > I've seen after market filters that claim to give better gas mileage. Now, > I think the jeeps use an oxygen sensor in the exhaust system. So, since the > oxygen is kept the same, how can an after market filter give better fuel > economy? Is there any objective, third party test results that support their > claims? > > Thanks > Lloyd Hanning |
Re: Air filters that give better gas mileage
I think you have it figured out just right!
New engines aren't like the old carb ones where you can add a little air and a little exhaust and get a boost. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Lloyd Hanning wrote: > > Hi all: > Okay, I'm not sure I understand this one, and would like one of you guys to > help me: > I've seen after market filters that claim to give better gas mileage. Now, > I think the jeeps use an oxygen sensor in the exhaust system. So, since the > oxygen is kept the same, how can an after market filter give better fuel > economy? Is there any objective, third party test results that support their > claims? > > Thanks > Lloyd Hanning |
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