Air filters that give better gas mileage
Hi all:
Okay, I'm not sure I understand this one, and would like one of you guys to help me: I've seen after market filters that claim to give better gas mileage. Now, I think the jeeps use an oxygen sensor in the exhaust system. So, since the oxygen is kept the same, how can an after market filter give better fuel economy? Is there any objective, third party test results that support their claims? Thanks Lloyd Hanning |
Re: Air filters that give better gas mileage
Lloyd Hanning did pass the time by typing:
> Hi all: > Okay, I'm not sure I understand this one, and would like one of you guys to > help me: > I've seen after market filters that claim to give better gas mileage. Now, > I think the jeeps use an oxygen sensor in the exhaust system. So, since the > oxygen is kept the same, how can an after market filter give better fuel > economy? Is there any objective, third party test results that support their > claims? The claim is the "brand x" air filter flows air more freely than "brand y". Basically, any filter is better than no filter or a clogged filter. Keeping that in mind a filter with a larger surface area will catch more dirt and probably last longer. The K&N (oiled cloth) filters are reusable but expensive. I haven't seen any "third party" tests, just a lot of vendor fluff and paid for testimonials. While we're on the subject of mileage boosters.. stay away from the snakeoil additives and air swirlly things. Unless of course you like flushing money. -- -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors |
Re: Air filters that give better gas mileage
Lloyd Hanning did pass the time by typing:
> Hi all: > Okay, I'm not sure I understand this one, and would like one of you guys to > help me: > I've seen after market filters that claim to give better gas mileage. Now, > I think the jeeps use an oxygen sensor in the exhaust system. So, since the > oxygen is kept the same, how can an after market filter give better fuel > economy? Is there any objective, third party test results that support their > claims? The claim is the "brand x" air filter flows air more freely than "brand y". Basically, any filter is better than no filter or a clogged filter. Keeping that in mind a filter with a larger surface area will catch more dirt and probably last longer. The K&N (oiled cloth) filters are reusable but expensive. I haven't seen any "third party" tests, just a lot of vendor fluff and paid for testimonials. While we're on the subject of mileage boosters.. stay away from the snakeoil additives and air swirlly things. Unless of course you like flushing money. -- -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors |
Re: Air filters that give better gas mileage
Lloyd Hanning did pass the time by typing:
> Hi all: > Okay, I'm not sure I understand this one, and would like one of you guys to > help me: > I've seen after market filters that claim to give better gas mileage. Now, > I think the jeeps use an oxygen sensor in the exhaust system. So, since the > oxygen is kept the same, how can an after market filter give better fuel > economy? Is there any objective, third party test results that support their > claims? The claim is the "brand x" air filter flows air more freely than "brand y". Basically, any filter is better than no filter or a clogged filter. Keeping that in mind a filter with a larger surface area will catch more dirt and probably last longer. The K&N (oiled cloth) filters are reusable but expensive. I haven't seen any "third party" tests, just a lot of vendor fluff and paid for testimonials. While we're on the subject of mileage boosters.. stay away from the snakeoil additives and air swirlly things. Unless of course you like flushing money. -- -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors |
Re: Air filters that give better gas mileage
I saw in a Four Wheel Magazine where they challenged some claims and,
according to their unbiased opinion of their prospective sponsors, they said the swirl thing actually did produce a measurable albeit slight gain. I wouldn't waste my money on it even if I believed it, though. My all-time favorite still has to be the "rare Earth magnet" that clamps over the fuel line. It's advertised with a pretty picture of the positively/negatively charged gasoline molecules ionically breezing through your gas line. I shouldn't throw stones, though. I could use the therapeutic peace of mind that comes from knowing that my gas is perfectly ordered into little "$$$" signs at the molecular level:) P.S. My buddy in elementary school proved to me that 1 + 1 = 1 ... o_o_o_o Best Regards, /| ,[_____], Jim, WP3JQ |¯¯¯L --O|||||||O- ()_)¯()_) ¯¯¯¯- )_) EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message news:EGa1c.23739$1k.15436@okepread01... > Lloyd Hanning did pass the time by typing: > > Hi all: > > Okay, I'm not sure I understand this one, and would like one of you guys to > > help me: > > I've seen after market filters that claim to give better gas mileage. Now, > > I think the jeeps use an oxygen sensor in the exhaust system. So, since the > > oxygen is kept the same, how can an after market filter give better fuel > > economy? Is there any objective, third party test results that support their > > claims? > > The claim is the "brand x" air filter flows air more freely than "brand y". > Basically, any filter is better than no filter or a clogged filter. Keeping > that in mind a filter with a larger surface area will catch more dirt and > probably last longer. The K&N (oiled cloth) filters are reusable but expensive. > > I haven't seen any "third party" tests, just a lot of vendor fluff and paid for > testimonials. > > While we're on the subject of mileage boosters.. stay away from the snakeoil > additives and air swirlly things. Unless of course you like flushing money. > > -- > -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond > HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks > Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors > > > > > |
Re: Air filters that give better gas mileage
I saw in a Four Wheel Magazine where they challenged some claims and,
according to their unbiased opinion of their prospective sponsors, they said the swirl thing actually did produce a measurable albeit slight gain. I wouldn't waste my money on it even if I believed it, though. My all-time favorite still has to be the "rare Earth magnet" that clamps over the fuel line. It's advertised with a pretty picture of the positively/negatively charged gasoline molecules ionically breezing through your gas line. I shouldn't throw stones, though. I could use the therapeutic peace of mind that comes from knowing that my gas is perfectly ordered into little "$$$" signs at the molecular level:) P.S. My buddy in elementary school proved to me that 1 + 1 = 1 ... o_o_o_o Best Regards, /| ,[_____], Jim, WP3JQ |¯¯¯L --O|||||||O- ()_)¯()_) ¯¯¯¯- )_) EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message news:EGa1c.23739$1k.15436@okepread01... > Lloyd Hanning did pass the time by typing: > > Hi all: > > Okay, I'm not sure I understand this one, and would like one of you guys to > > help me: > > I've seen after market filters that claim to give better gas mileage. Now, > > I think the jeeps use an oxygen sensor in the exhaust system. So, since the > > oxygen is kept the same, how can an after market filter give better fuel > > economy? Is there any objective, third party test results that support their > > claims? > > The claim is the "brand x" air filter flows air more freely than "brand y". > Basically, any filter is better than no filter or a clogged filter. Keeping > that in mind a filter with a larger surface area will catch more dirt and > probably last longer. The K&N (oiled cloth) filters are reusable but expensive. > > I haven't seen any "third party" tests, just a lot of vendor fluff and paid for > testimonials. > > While we're on the subject of mileage boosters.. stay away from the snakeoil > additives and air swirlly things. Unless of course you like flushing money. > > -- > -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond > HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks > Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors > > > > > |
Re: Air filters that give better gas mileage
I saw in a Four Wheel Magazine where they challenged some claims and,
according to their unbiased opinion of their prospective sponsors, they said the swirl thing actually did produce a measurable albeit slight gain. I wouldn't waste my money on it even if I believed it, though. My all-time favorite still has to be the "rare Earth magnet" that clamps over the fuel line. It's advertised with a pretty picture of the positively/negatively charged gasoline molecules ionically breezing through your gas line. I shouldn't throw stones, though. I could use the therapeutic peace of mind that comes from knowing that my gas is perfectly ordered into little "$$$" signs at the molecular level:) P.S. My buddy in elementary school proved to me that 1 + 1 = 1 ... o_o_o_o Best Regards, /| ,[_____], Jim, WP3JQ |¯¯¯L --O|||||||O- ()_)¯()_) ¯¯¯¯- )_) EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message news:EGa1c.23739$1k.15436@okepread01... > Lloyd Hanning did pass the time by typing: > > Hi all: > > Okay, I'm not sure I understand this one, and would like one of you guys to > > help me: > > I've seen after market filters that claim to give better gas mileage. Now, > > I think the jeeps use an oxygen sensor in the exhaust system. So, since the > > oxygen is kept the same, how can an after market filter give better fuel > > economy? Is there any objective, third party test results that support their > > claims? > > The claim is the "brand x" air filter flows air more freely than "brand y". > Basically, any filter is better than no filter or a clogged filter. Keeping > that in mind a filter with a larger surface area will catch more dirt and > probably last longer. The K&N (oiled cloth) filters are reusable but expensive. > > I haven't seen any "third party" tests, just a lot of vendor fluff and paid for > testimonials. > > While we're on the subject of mileage boosters.. stay away from the snakeoil > additives and air swirlly things. Unless of course you like flushing money. > > -- > -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond > HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks > Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors > > > > > |
Re: Air filters that give better gas mileage
I think you have it figured out just right!
New engines aren't like the old carb ones where you can add a little air and a little exhaust and get a boost. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Lloyd Hanning wrote: > > Hi all: > Okay, I'm not sure I understand this one, and would like one of you guys to > help me: > I've seen after market filters that claim to give better gas mileage. Now, > I think the jeeps use an oxygen sensor in the exhaust system. So, since the > oxygen is kept the same, how can an after market filter give better fuel > economy? Is there any objective, third party test results that support their > claims? > > Thanks > Lloyd Hanning |
Re: Air filters that give better gas mileage
I think you have it figured out just right!
New engines aren't like the old carb ones where you can add a little air and a little exhaust and get a boost. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Lloyd Hanning wrote: > > Hi all: > Okay, I'm not sure I understand this one, and would like one of you guys to > help me: > I've seen after market filters that claim to give better gas mileage. Now, > I think the jeeps use an oxygen sensor in the exhaust system. So, since the > oxygen is kept the same, how can an after market filter give better fuel > economy? Is there any objective, third party test results that support their > claims? > > Thanks > Lloyd Hanning |
Re: Air filters that give better gas mileage
I think you have it figured out just right!
New engines aren't like the old carb ones where you can add a little air and a little exhaust and get a boost. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Lloyd Hanning wrote: > > Hi all: > Okay, I'm not sure I understand this one, and would like one of you guys to > help me: > I've seen after market filters that claim to give better gas mileage. Now, > I think the jeeps use an oxygen sensor in the exhaust system. So, since the > oxygen is kept the same, how can an after market filter give better fuel > economy? Is there any objective, third party test results that support their > claims? > > Thanks > Lloyd Hanning |
Re: Air filters that give better gas mileage
I care about mileage. It costs money to drive my Jeepster. It has the
aerodynamic coefficient of a brick and a 455 Buick engine. It gets 8.5 MPG on the freeway at 75-80 Mph. That's why I have a car. A Diesel VW. It's not much fun to drive, but it was cheap and gets 50 mpg. It has an extra tank, and can go 850 miles on a tank, I wish my bladder could. How much would you have to spend on your Jeep to get it over 35? would it still be good for off-roading? I think a Jeep is a great vehicle, but it shouldn't be your only transportation. When the Feds came down on "patent medicines" in the 20s, most of the scammers went to automotive miracle devices. I have seen a "spinner" from 1923, it didn't work then either. -- Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California |
Re: Air filters that give better gas mileage
I care about mileage. It costs money to drive my Jeepster. It has the
aerodynamic coefficient of a brick and a 455 Buick engine. It gets 8.5 MPG on the freeway at 75-80 Mph. That's why I have a car. A Diesel VW. It's not much fun to drive, but it was cheap and gets 50 mpg. It has an extra tank, and can go 850 miles on a tank, I wish my bladder could. How much would you have to spend on your Jeep to get it over 35? would it still be good for off-roading? I think a Jeep is a great vehicle, but it shouldn't be your only transportation. When the Feds came down on "patent medicines" in the 20s, most of the scammers went to automotive miracle devices. I have seen a "spinner" from 1923, it didn't work then either. -- Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California |
Re: Air filters that give better gas mileage
I care about mileage. It costs money to drive my Jeepster. It has the
aerodynamic coefficient of a brick and a 455 Buick engine. It gets 8.5 MPG on the freeway at 75-80 Mph. That's why I have a car. A Diesel VW. It's not much fun to drive, but it was cheap and gets 50 mpg. It has an extra tank, and can go 850 miles on a tank, I wish my bladder could. How much would you have to spend on your Jeep to get it over 35? would it still be good for off-roading? I think a Jeep is a great vehicle, but it shouldn't be your only transportation. When the Feds came down on "patent medicines" in the 20s, most of the scammers went to automotive miracle devices. I have seen a "spinner" from 1923, it didn't work then either. -- Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California |
Re: Air filters that give better gas mileage
While on the subject of gas mileage what about those "JET" Chips.
Any body got one? My friend put one on his S-10 and he noticed a big difference performance wise but only about 25 more miles per tank full. That is probably not worth it to me for the money. |
Re: Air filters that give better gas mileage
While on the subject of gas mileage what about those "JET" Chips.
Any body got one? My friend put one on his S-10 and he noticed a big difference performance wise but only about 25 more miles per tank full. That is probably not worth it to me for the money. |
Re: Air filters that give better gas mileage
While on the subject of gas mileage what about those "JET" Chips.
Any body got one? My friend put one on his S-10 and he noticed a big difference performance wise but only about 25 more miles per tank full. That is probably not worth it to me for the money. |
Re: Air filters that give better gas mileage
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God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Intergate wrote: > > While on the subject of gas mileage what about those "JET" Chips. > > Any body got one? > > My friend put one on his S-10 and he noticed a big difference performance > wise but only about 25 more miles per tank full. > > That is probably not worth it to me for the money. |
Re: Air filters that give better gas mileage
http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/techart...ET/index3.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Intergate wrote: > > While on the subject of gas mileage what about those "JET" Chips. > > Any body got one? > > My friend put one on his S-10 and he noticed a big difference performance > wise but only about 25 more miles per tank full. > > That is probably not worth it to me for the money. |
Re: Air filters that give better gas mileage
http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/techart...ET/index3.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Intergate wrote: > > While on the subject of gas mileage what about those "JET" Chips. > > Any body got one? > > My friend put one on his S-10 and he noticed a big difference performance > wise but only about 25 more miles per tank full. > > That is probably not worth it to me for the money. |
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