Air Conditioner Help Needed
07-04-2004, 10:17 PM
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Re: Air Conditioner Help Needed
Touche'
<robbin.olson@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Yup, it's a Jeep. I just like to have things working properly. I
> have the top and doors off, but I wanted to cool my garage down:-)
>
> On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 01:59:59 GMT, "Ghostbuster"
> <brad2004@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> >My A/C is not working real well either, so what I did is I took the top
and
> >the doors off. It is still a little warm, but HELL its a Jeep. And my
81
> >CJ5 doesnt have A/C anyway.
> >Brad
> >www.angelfire.com/ok/beakl
> >
> ><robbin.olson@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >news:ku4he0db5iou321m5sktqg51e89jej592n@4ax.com.. .
> >> I thought I would try posting this hear in the hope that someone might
> >> know what the problem is I am having with my air conditioner. I have
> >> a 1998 Jeep TJ. The air conditioner is not working and the clutch on
> >> the air conditioning pump does not kick in when I jump it. The freon
> >> pressure seems to be quite high (no gauges uses - just a quick tap of
> >> the valve). All fuses seem to be good. I brought it to a ar
> >> conditioning person and they told me it looks like an electrical
> >> problem but wanted $200 to give me an estimate. ANYONE HAVE ANY
> >> IDEAS? THANK YOU!
> >
>
<robbin.olson@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Yup, it's a Jeep. I just like to have things working properly. I
> have the top and doors off, but I wanted to cool my garage down:-)
>
> On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 01:59:59 GMT, "Ghostbuster"
> <brad2004@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> >My A/C is not working real well either, so what I did is I took the top
and
> >the doors off. It is still a little warm, but HELL its a Jeep. And my
81
> >CJ5 doesnt have A/C anyway.
> >Brad
> >www.angelfire.com/ok/beakl
> >
> ><robbin.olson@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >news:ku4he0db5iou321m5sktqg51e89jej592n@4ax.com.. .
> >> I thought I would try posting this hear in the hope that someone might
> >> know what the problem is I am having with my air conditioner. I have
> >> a 1998 Jeep TJ. The air conditioner is not working and the clutch on
> >> the air conditioning pump does not kick in when I jump it. The freon
> >> pressure seems to be quite high (no gauges uses - just a quick tap of
> >> the valve). All fuses seem to be good. I brought it to a ar
> >> conditioning person and they told me it looks like an electrical
> >> problem but wanted $200 to give me an estimate. ANYONE HAVE ANY
> >> IDEAS? THANK YOU!
> >
>
07-04-2004, 10:41 PM
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Re: Air Conditioner Help Needed
robbin.olson@comcast.net did pass the time by typing:
> I tried both switches with no change. Is there any way to run 12V
> directly to the clutch from the battery? Would I need to be concerned
> about polarity? THANKS!
There should also be an AC relay, it could be shot.
Here is where things change. I don't have the wiring diagram
for your year but there should only be one line feeding the
compressor clutch. Two wires, but one goes directly to ground.
Check to see which one is which, but you should be able to trip it
with 12 v in either direction. My book shows a Darkblue/yellow stripe
wire being the feed, but that's for a 93 ZJ. YMMV.
--
DougW
> I tried both switches with no change. Is there any way to run 12V
> directly to the clutch from the battery? Would I need to be concerned
> about polarity? THANKS!
There should also be an AC relay, it could be shot.
Here is where things change. I don't have the wiring diagram
for your year but there should only be one line feeding the
compressor clutch. Two wires, but one goes directly to ground.
Check to see which one is which, but you should be able to trip it
with 12 v in either direction. My book shows a Darkblue/yellow stripe
wire being the feed, but that's for a 93 ZJ. YMMV.
--
DougW
07-04-2004, 10:41 PM
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Re: Air Conditioner Help Needed
robbin.olson@comcast.net did pass the time by typing:
> I tried both switches with no change. Is there any way to run 12V
> directly to the clutch from the battery? Would I need to be concerned
> about polarity? THANKS!
There should also be an AC relay, it could be shot.
Here is where things change. I don't have the wiring diagram
for your year but there should only be one line feeding the
compressor clutch. Two wires, but one goes directly to ground.
Check to see which one is which, but you should be able to trip it
with 12 v in either direction. My book shows a Darkblue/yellow stripe
wire being the feed, but that's for a 93 ZJ. YMMV.
--
DougW
> I tried both switches with no change. Is there any way to run 12V
> directly to the clutch from the battery? Would I need to be concerned
> about polarity? THANKS!
There should also be an AC relay, it could be shot.
Here is where things change. I don't have the wiring diagram
for your year but there should only be one line feeding the
compressor clutch. Two wires, but one goes directly to ground.
Check to see which one is which, but you should be able to trip it
with 12 v in either direction. My book shows a Darkblue/yellow stripe
wire being the feed, but that's for a 93 ZJ. YMMV.
--
DougW
07-04-2004, 10:41 PM
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Re: Air Conditioner Help Needed
robbin.olson@comcast.net did pass the time by typing:
> I tried both switches with no change. Is there any way to run 12V
> directly to the clutch from the battery? Would I need to be concerned
> about polarity? THANKS!
There should also be an AC relay, it could be shot.
Here is where things change. I don't have the wiring diagram
for your year but there should only be one line feeding the
compressor clutch. Two wires, but one goes directly to ground.
Check to see which one is which, but you should be able to trip it
with 12 v in either direction. My book shows a Darkblue/yellow stripe
wire being the feed, but that's for a 93 ZJ. YMMV.
--
DougW
> I tried both switches with no change. Is there any way to run 12V
> directly to the clutch from the battery? Would I need to be concerned
> about polarity? THANKS!
There should also be an AC relay, it could be shot.
Here is where things change. I don't have the wiring diagram
for your year but there should only be one line feeding the
compressor clutch. Two wires, but one goes directly to ground.
Check to see which one is which, but you should be able to trip it
with 12 v in either direction. My book shows a Darkblue/yellow stripe
wire being the feed, but that's for a 93 ZJ. YMMV.
--
DougW
07-04-2004, 10:41 PM
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Re: Air Conditioner Help Needed
robbin.olson@comcast.net did pass the time by typing:
> I tried both switches with no change. Is there any way to run 12V
> directly to the clutch from the battery? Would I need to be concerned
> about polarity? THANKS!
There should also be an AC relay, it could be shot.
Here is where things change. I don't have the wiring diagram
for your year but there should only be one line feeding the
compressor clutch. Two wires, but one goes directly to ground.
Check to see which one is which, but you should be able to trip it
with 12 v in either direction. My book shows a Darkblue/yellow stripe
wire being the feed, but that's for a 93 ZJ. YMMV.
--
DougW
> I tried both switches with no change. Is there any way to run 12V
> directly to the clutch from the battery? Would I need to be concerned
> about polarity? THANKS!
There should also be an AC relay, it could be shot.
Here is where things change. I don't have the wiring diagram
for your year but there should only be one line feeding the
compressor clutch. Two wires, but one goes directly to ground.
Check to see which one is which, but you should be able to trip it
with 12 v in either direction. My book shows a Darkblue/yellow stripe
wire being the feed, but that's for a 93 ZJ. YMMV.
--
DougW
07-04-2004, 10:54 PM
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Re: Air Conditioner Help Needed
Thanks for your help, Doug. I switched the relays with another
identical one with no change. I did note that the relay was warm to
the touch. Is that significant? Next step will be to try to trip it
with 12 volts.
On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 21:41:51 -0500, "DougW"
<post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:
>robbin.olson@comcast.net did pass the time by typing:
>> I tried both switches with no change. Is there any way to run 12V
>> directly to the clutch from the battery? Would I need to be concerned
>> about polarity? THANKS!
>
>There should also be an AC relay, it could be shot.
>
>
>Here is where things change. I don't have the wiring diagram
>for your year but there should only be one line feeding the
>compressor clutch. Two wires, but one goes directly to ground.
>
>Check to see which one is which, but you should be able to trip it
>with 12 v in either direction. My book shows a Darkblue/yellow stripe
>wire being the feed, but that's for a 93 ZJ. YMMV.
identical one with no change. I did note that the relay was warm to
the touch. Is that significant? Next step will be to try to trip it
with 12 volts.
On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 21:41:51 -0500, "DougW"
<post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:
>robbin.olson@comcast.net did pass the time by typing:
>> I tried both switches with no change. Is there any way to run 12V
>> directly to the clutch from the battery? Would I need to be concerned
>> about polarity? THANKS!
>
>There should also be an AC relay, it could be shot.
>
>
>Here is where things change. I don't have the wiring diagram
>for your year but there should only be one line feeding the
>compressor clutch. Two wires, but one goes directly to ground.
>
>Check to see which one is which, but you should be able to trip it
>with 12 v in either direction. My book shows a Darkblue/yellow stripe
>wire being the feed, but that's for a 93 ZJ. YMMV.
07-04-2004, 10:54 PM
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Re: Air Conditioner Help Needed
Thanks for your help, Doug. I switched the relays with another
identical one with no change. I did note that the relay was warm to
the touch. Is that significant? Next step will be to try to trip it
with 12 volts.
On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 21:41:51 -0500, "DougW"
<post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:
>robbin.olson@comcast.net did pass the time by typing:
>> I tried both switches with no change. Is there any way to run 12V
>> directly to the clutch from the battery? Would I need to be concerned
>> about polarity? THANKS!
>
>There should also be an AC relay, it could be shot.
>
>
>Here is where things change. I don't have the wiring diagram
>for your year but there should only be one line feeding the
>compressor clutch. Two wires, but one goes directly to ground.
>
>Check to see which one is which, but you should be able to trip it
>with 12 v in either direction. My book shows a Darkblue/yellow stripe
>wire being the feed, but that's for a 93 ZJ. YMMV.
identical one with no change. I did note that the relay was warm to
the touch. Is that significant? Next step will be to try to trip it
with 12 volts.
On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 21:41:51 -0500, "DougW"
<post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:
>robbin.olson@comcast.net did pass the time by typing:
>> I tried both switches with no change. Is there any way to run 12V
>> directly to the clutch from the battery? Would I need to be concerned
>> about polarity? THANKS!
>
>There should also be an AC relay, it could be shot.
>
>
>Here is where things change. I don't have the wiring diagram
>for your year but there should only be one line feeding the
>compressor clutch. Two wires, but one goes directly to ground.
>
>Check to see which one is which, but you should be able to trip it
>with 12 v in either direction. My book shows a Darkblue/yellow stripe
>wire being the feed, but that's for a 93 ZJ. YMMV.
07-04-2004, 10:54 PM
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Re: Air Conditioner Help Needed
Thanks for your help, Doug. I switched the relays with another
identical one with no change. I did note that the relay was warm to
the touch. Is that significant? Next step will be to try to trip it
with 12 volts.
On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 21:41:51 -0500, "DougW"
<post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:
>robbin.olson@comcast.net did pass the time by typing:
>> I tried both switches with no change. Is there any way to run 12V
>> directly to the clutch from the battery? Would I need to be concerned
>> about polarity? THANKS!
>
>There should also be an AC relay, it could be shot.
>
>
>Here is where things change. I don't have the wiring diagram
>for your year but there should only be one line feeding the
>compressor clutch. Two wires, but one goes directly to ground.
>
>Check to see which one is which, but you should be able to trip it
>with 12 v in either direction. My book shows a Darkblue/yellow stripe
>wire being the feed, but that's for a 93 ZJ. YMMV.
identical one with no change. I did note that the relay was warm to
the touch. Is that significant? Next step will be to try to trip it
with 12 volts.
On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 21:41:51 -0500, "DougW"
<post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:
>robbin.olson@comcast.net did pass the time by typing:
>> I tried both switches with no change. Is there any way to run 12V
>> directly to the clutch from the battery? Would I need to be concerned
>> about polarity? THANKS!
>
>There should also be an AC relay, it could be shot.
>
>
>Here is where things change. I don't have the wiring diagram
>for your year but there should only be one line feeding the
>compressor clutch. Two wires, but one goes directly to ground.
>
>Check to see which one is which, but you should be able to trip it
>with 12 v in either direction. My book shows a Darkblue/yellow stripe
>wire being the feed, but that's for a 93 ZJ. YMMV.
07-04-2004, 10:54 PM
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Re: Air Conditioner Help Needed
Thanks for your help, Doug. I switched the relays with another
identical one with no change. I did note that the relay was warm to
the touch. Is that significant? Next step will be to try to trip it
with 12 volts.
On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 21:41:51 -0500, "DougW"
<post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:
>robbin.olson@comcast.net did pass the time by typing:
>> I tried both switches with no change. Is there any way to run 12V
>> directly to the clutch from the battery? Would I need to be concerned
>> about polarity? THANKS!
>
>There should also be an AC relay, it could be shot.
>
>
>Here is where things change. I don't have the wiring diagram
>for your year but there should only be one line feeding the
>compressor clutch. Two wires, but one goes directly to ground.
>
>Check to see which one is which, but you should be able to trip it
>with 12 v in either direction. My book shows a Darkblue/yellow stripe
>wire being the feed, but that's for a 93 ZJ. YMMV.
identical one with no change. I did note that the relay was warm to
the touch. Is that significant? Next step will be to try to trip it
with 12 volts.
On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 21:41:51 -0500, "DougW"
<post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:
>robbin.olson@comcast.net did pass the time by typing:
>> I tried both switches with no change. Is there any way to run 12V
>> directly to the clutch from the battery? Would I need to be concerned
>> about polarity? THANKS!
>
>There should also be an AC relay, it could be shot.
>
>
>Here is where things change. I don't have the wiring diagram
>for your year but there should only be one line feeding the
>compressor clutch. Two wires, but one goes directly to ground.
>
>Check to see which one is which, but you should be able to trip it
>with 12 v in either direction. My book shows a Darkblue/yellow stripe
>wire being the feed, but that's for a 93 ZJ. YMMV.
07-04-2004, 11:03 PM
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Re: Air Conditioner Help Needed
robbin.olson@comcast.net did pass the time by typing:
> Thanks for your help, Doug. I switched the relays with another
> identical one with no change. I did note that the relay was warm to
> the touch. Is that significant? Next step will be to try to trip it
> with 12 volts.
Relays will get a bit warm but shouldn't get too hot. Have you
tracked back all AC fuses? In the ZJ there are two, one in the
primary relay center by the relay and another in the secondary
center inside. Either one will keep the AC from running.
--
DougW
> Thanks for your help, Doug. I switched the relays with another
> identical one with no change. I did note that the relay was warm to
> the touch. Is that significant? Next step will be to try to trip it
> with 12 volts.
Relays will get a bit warm but shouldn't get too hot. Have you
tracked back all AC fuses? In the ZJ there are two, one in the
primary relay center by the relay and another in the secondary
center inside. Either one will keep the AC from running.
--
DougW