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Re: ah foo
It'll look like heck, but Bondo will fix it for sure.
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>
> well, that's nice to know. :/
>
> Guess I got a bad one because the leak doesn't look like it will stop.
> Got a few options here since the leak is not bad enough to worry about
> unless I'm driving very long distances. To/from work doesn't build up
> enough heat to do diddle.
>
> 1) Take the radiator out, have it fixed, put it back in.
> (seems NAPA waranty is only 30 days) But if it's just the
> gasket, that's easy enough to do without splitting the tank off.
> 2) Take the ZJ to a local repair shop and have them put a new
> lifetime waranty rad in, fix the old core and either keep it
> or put it up on ebay.
> 3) Put in some Silverseal from westco and see if that fixes the
> problem without crudding up the heater core or passages.
> (recommended to me by a local wrencher that uses it on older vehicles)
>
> I'm tempted to put 1/4 oz of the sealer in there and see if that fixes
> the problem. Not enough to clog anything. What I've read also suggests
> putting the whole thing in, driving for about a week, then flushing the
> system.
>
> Last time I put anything like that in an engine it was that RESTORE stuff.
> Got to say it worked well enough to get another five years out of the old
> truck. Nothing builds compression like filling the rings with solidified
> junk. :)
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
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"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
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>
> well, that's nice to know. :/
>
> Guess I got a bad one because the leak doesn't look like it will stop.
> Got a few options here since the leak is not bad enough to worry about
> unless I'm driving very long distances. To/from work doesn't build up
> enough heat to do diddle.
>
> 1) Take the radiator out, have it fixed, put it back in.
> (seems NAPA waranty is only 30 days) But if it's just the
> gasket, that's easy enough to do without splitting the tank off.
> 2) Take the ZJ to a local repair shop and have them put a new
> lifetime waranty rad in, fix the old core and either keep it
> or put it up on ebay.
> 3) Put in some Silverseal from westco and see if that fixes the
> problem without crudding up the heater core or passages.
> (recommended to me by a local wrencher that uses it on older vehicles)
>
> I'm tempted to put 1/4 oz of the sealer in there and see if that fixes
> the problem. Not enough to clog anything. What I've read also suggests
> putting the whole thing in, driving for about a week, then flushing the
> system.
>
> Last time I put anything like that in an engine it was that RESTORE stuff.
> Got to say it worked well enough to get another five years out of the old
> truck. Nothing builds compression like filling the rings with solidified
> junk. :)
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
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L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> I think it's worth a double check. Pep Boys has been replacing my
> Bronco Radiator about every seven years, because of the beach salt
> air, for a free exchange number three.
I'll drop in and ask. The 30 days I got off the sales slip and
napa website. Come to think of it the ECH parts are lifetime
so it may be the rad is under waranty. Still might pay the local
shop to do the swapout since they usually get parts from NAPA.
I'm just tired of messing with it. Even though it's an "easy" fix.
There comes a time when it's worth it to pay someone to take the
problem off your hands. :)
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:45d26b16$0$24491$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>
>> OK, I MAY have to stand corrected here. Our NAPA store gets their
>> radiators from the same place my friend gets them for his shop. If
>> they are the same where you are from, then the NAPA store is giving
>> you a line of bull, because the supplier gives a limited lifetime
>> warranty, again assuming all NAPA stores use the same manufacturer.
>> Most of the radiators in the USA are supplied by a company called
>> SPI which is based in Canada, but has assembly facilities and
>> distributors located throughout the US. I sold many of their
>> radiators on EBay and they even drop shipped for us. They do stand
>> behind their products, so I am surprised your NAPA store is only
>> giving you a 30 day warranty. If you have another NAPA store in your
>> area, I suggest trying them for a warranty, since all NAPA stores
>> will honor warranties from any of their stores. Maybe I am spoiled
>> here with a good NAPA store, but more than once I have brought parts
>> back that were slightly out of warranty, and they always went good
>> on them. I would also try talking to the manager of the store you
>> bought the radiator from. Again, I have been very pleased with
>> NAPA's warranty policy, even though I haven't had to use it very
>> often.
>>
>> Chris
> I think it's worth a double check. Pep Boys has been replacing my
> Bronco Radiator about every seven years, because of the beach salt
> air, for a free exchange number three.
I'll drop in and ask. The 30 days I got off the sales slip and
napa website. Come to think of it the ECH parts are lifetime
so it may be the rad is under waranty. Still might pay the local
shop to do the swapout since they usually get parts from NAPA.
I'm just tired of messing with it. Even though it's an "easy" fix.
There comes a time when it's worth it to pay someone to take the
problem off your hands. :)
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:45d26b16$0$24491$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>
>> OK, I MAY have to stand corrected here. Our NAPA store gets their
>> radiators from the same place my friend gets them for his shop. If
>> they are the same where you are from, then the NAPA store is giving
>> you a line of bull, because the supplier gives a limited lifetime
>> warranty, again assuming all NAPA stores use the same manufacturer.
>> Most of the radiators in the USA are supplied by a company called
>> SPI which is based in Canada, but has assembly facilities and
>> distributors located throughout the US. I sold many of their
>> radiators on EBay and they even drop shipped for us. They do stand
>> behind their products, so I am surprised your NAPA store is only
>> giving you a 30 day warranty. If you have another NAPA store in your
>> area, I suggest trying them for a warranty, since all NAPA stores
>> will honor warranties from any of their stores. Maybe I am spoiled
>> here with a good NAPA store, but more than once I have brought parts
>> back that were slightly out of warranty, and they always went good
>> on them. I would also try talking to the manager of the store you
>> bought the radiator from. Again, I have been very pleased with
>> NAPA's warranty policy, even though I haven't had to use it very
>> often.
>>
>> Chris
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L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> I think it's worth a double check. Pep Boys has been replacing my
> Bronco Radiator about every seven years, because of the beach salt
> air, for a free exchange number three.
I'll drop in and ask. The 30 days I got off the sales slip and
napa website. Come to think of it the ECH parts are lifetime
so it may be the rad is under waranty. Still might pay the local
shop to do the swapout since they usually get parts from NAPA.
I'm just tired of messing with it. Even though it's an "easy" fix.
There comes a time when it's worth it to pay someone to take the
problem off your hands. :)
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:45d26b16$0$24491$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>
>> OK, I MAY have to stand corrected here. Our NAPA store gets their
>> radiators from the same place my friend gets them for his shop. If
>> they are the same where you are from, then the NAPA store is giving
>> you a line of bull, because the supplier gives a limited lifetime
>> warranty, again assuming all NAPA stores use the same manufacturer.
>> Most of the radiators in the USA are supplied by a company called
>> SPI which is based in Canada, but has assembly facilities and
>> distributors located throughout the US. I sold many of their
>> radiators on EBay and they even drop shipped for us. They do stand
>> behind their products, so I am surprised your NAPA store is only
>> giving you a 30 day warranty. If you have another NAPA store in your
>> area, I suggest trying them for a warranty, since all NAPA stores
>> will honor warranties from any of their stores. Maybe I am spoiled
>> here with a good NAPA store, but more than once I have brought parts
>> back that were slightly out of warranty, and they always went good
>> on them. I would also try talking to the manager of the store you
>> bought the radiator from. Again, I have been very pleased with
>> NAPA's warranty policy, even though I haven't had to use it very
>> often.
>>
>> Chris
> I think it's worth a double check. Pep Boys has been replacing my
> Bronco Radiator about every seven years, because of the beach salt
> air, for a free exchange number three.
I'll drop in and ask. The 30 days I got off the sales slip and
napa website. Come to think of it the ECH parts are lifetime
so it may be the rad is under waranty. Still might pay the local
shop to do the swapout since they usually get parts from NAPA.
I'm just tired of messing with it. Even though it's an "easy" fix.
There comes a time when it's worth it to pay someone to take the
problem off your hands. :)
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:45d26b16$0$24491$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>
>> OK, I MAY have to stand corrected here. Our NAPA store gets their
>> radiators from the same place my friend gets them for his shop. If
>> they are the same where you are from, then the NAPA store is giving
>> you a line of bull, because the supplier gives a limited lifetime
>> warranty, again assuming all NAPA stores use the same manufacturer.
>> Most of the radiators in the USA are supplied by a company called
>> SPI which is based in Canada, but has assembly facilities and
>> distributors located throughout the US. I sold many of their
>> radiators on EBay and they even drop shipped for us. They do stand
>> behind their products, so I am surprised your NAPA store is only
>> giving you a 30 day warranty. If you have another NAPA store in your
>> area, I suggest trying them for a warranty, since all NAPA stores
>> will honor warranties from any of their stores. Maybe I am spoiled
>> here with a good NAPA store, but more than once I have brought parts
>> back that were slightly out of warranty, and they always went good
>> on them. I would also try talking to the manager of the store you
>> bought the radiator from. Again, I have been very pleased with
>> NAPA's warranty policy, even though I haven't had to use it very
>> often.
>>
>> Chris
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L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> I think it's worth a double check. Pep Boys has been replacing my
> Bronco Radiator about every seven years, because of the beach salt
> air, for a free exchange number three.
I'll drop in and ask. The 30 days I got off the sales slip and
napa website. Come to think of it the ECH parts are lifetime
so it may be the rad is under waranty. Still might pay the local
shop to do the swapout since they usually get parts from NAPA.
I'm just tired of messing with it. Even though it's an "easy" fix.
There comes a time when it's worth it to pay someone to take the
problem off your hands. :)
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:45d26b16$0$24491$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>
>> OK, I MAY have to stand corrected here. Our NAPA store gets their
>> radiators from the same place my friend gets them for his shop. If
>> they are the same where you are from, then the NAPA store is giving
>> you a line of bull, because the supplier gives a limited lifetime
>> warranty, again assuming all NAPA stores use the same manufacturer.
>> Most of the radiators in the USA are supplied by a company called
>> SPI which is based in Canada, but has assembly facilities and
>> distributors located throughout the US. I sold many of their
>> radiators on EBay and they even drop shipped for us. They do stand
>> behind their products, so I am surprised your NAPA store is only
>> giving you a 30 day warranty. If you have another NAPA store in your
>> area, I suggest trying them for a warranty, since all NAPA stores
>> will honor warranties from any of their stores. Maybe I am spoiled
>> here with a good NAPA store, but more than once I have brought parts
>> back that were slightly out of warranty, and they always went good
>> on them. I would also try talking to the manager of the store you
>> bought the radiator from. Again, I have been very pleased with
>> NAPA's warranty policy, even though I haven't had to use it very
>> often.
>>
>> Chris
> I think it's worth a double check. Pep Boys has been replacing my
> Bronco Radiator about every seven years, because of the beach salt
> air, for a free exchange number three.
I'll drop in and ask. The 30 days I got off the sales slip and
napa website. Come to think of it the ECH parts are lifetime
so it may be the rad is under waranty. Still might pay the local
shop to do the swapout since they usually get parts from NAPA.
I'm just tired of messing with it. Even though it's an "easy" fix.
There comes a time when it's worth it to pay someone to take the
problem off your hands. :)
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:45d26b16$0$24491$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>
>> OK, I MAY have to stand corrected here. Our NAPA store gets their
>> radiators from the same place my friend gets them for his shop. If
>> they are the same where you are from, then the NAPA store is giving
>> you a line of bull, because the supplier gives a limited lifetime
>> warranty, again assuming all NAPA stores use the same manufacturer.
>> Most of the radiators in the USA are supplied by a company called
>> SPI which is based in Canada, but has assembly facilities and
>> distributors located throughout the US. I sold many of their
>> radiators on EBay and they even drop shipped for us. They do stand
>> behind their products, so I am surprised your NAPA store is only
>> giving you a 30 day warranty. If you have another NAPA store in your
>> area, I suggest trying them for a warranty, since all NAPA stores
>> will honor warranties from any of their stores. Maybe I am spoiled
>> here with a good NAPA store, but more than once I have brought parts
>> back that were slightly out of warranty, and they always went good
>> on them. I would also try talking to the manager of the store you
>> bought the radiator from. Again, I have been very pleased with
>> NAPA's warranty policy, even though I haven't had to use it very
>> often.
>>
>> Chris
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L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> I think it's worth a double check. Pep Boys has been replacing my
> Bronco Radiator about every seven years, because of the beach salt
> air, for a free exchange number three.
I'll drop in and ask. The 30 days I got off the sales slip and
napa website. Come to think of it the ECH parts are lifetime
so it may be the rad is under waranty. Still might pay the local
shop to do the swapout since they usually get parts from NAPA.
I'm just tired of messing with it. Even though it's an "easy" fix.
There comes a time when it's worth it to pay someone to take the
problem off your hands. :)
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:45d26b16$0$24491$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>
>> OK, I MAY have to stand corrected here. Our NAPA store gets their
>> radiators from the same place my friend gets them for his shop. If
>> they are the same where you are from, then the NAPA store is giving
>> you a line of bull, because the supplier gives a limited lifetime
>> warranty, again assuming all NAPA stores use the same manufacturer.
>> Most of the radiators in the USA are supplied by a company called
>> SPI which is based in Canada, but has assembly facilities and
>> distributors located throughout the US. I sold many of their
>> radiators on EBay and they even drop shipped for us. They do stand
>> behind their products, so I am surprised your NAPA store is only
>> giving you a 30 day warranty. If you have another NAPA store in your
>> area, I suggest trying them for a warranty, since all NAPA stores
>> will honor warranties from any of their stores. Maybe I am spoiled
>> here with a good NAPA store, but more than once I have brought parts
>> back that were slightly out of warranty, and they always went good
>> on them. I would also try talking to the manager of the store you
>> bought the radiator from. Again, I have been very pleased with
>> NAPA's warranty policy, even though I haven't had to use it very
>> often.
>>
>> Chris
> I think it's worth a double check. Pep Boys has been replacing my
> Bronco Radiator about every seven years, because of the beach salt
> air, for a free exchange number three.
I'll drop in and ask. The 30 days I got off the sales slip and
napa website. Come to think of it the ECH parts are lifetime
so it may be the rad is under waranty. Still might pay the local
shop to do the swapout since they usually get parts from NAPA.
I'm just tired of messing with it. Even though it's an "easy" fix.
There comes a time when it's worth it to pay someone to take the
problem off your hands. :)
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:45d26b16$0$24491$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>
>> OK, I MAY have to stand corrected here. Our NAPA store gets their
>> radiators from the same place my friend gets them for his shop. If
>> they are the same where you are from, then the NAPA store is giving
>> you a line of bull, because the supplier gives a limited lifetime
>> warranty, again assuming all NAPA stores use the same manufacturer.
>> Most of the radiators in the USA are supplied by a company called
>> SPI which is based in Canada, but has assembly facilities and
>> distributors located throughout the US. I sold many of their
>> radiators on EBay and they even drop shipped for us. They do stand
>> behind their products, so I am surprised your NAPA store is only
>> giving you a 30 day warranty. If you have another NAPA store in your
>> area, I suggest trying them for a warranty, since all NAPA stores
>> will honor warranties from any of their stores. Maybe I am spoiled
>> here with a good NAPA store, but more than once I have brought parts
>> back that were slightly out of warranty, and they always went good
>> on them. I would also try talking to the manager of the store you
>> bought the radiator from. Again, I have been very pleased with
>> NAPA's warranty policy, even though I haven't had to use it very
>> often.
>>
>> Chris
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Hi Doug,
I don't blame you, there are many new cold records being set, and I
believe your Colorado, Oklahoma are among them.
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"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
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>
> I'll drop in and ask. The 30 days I got off the sales slip and
> napa website. Come to think of it the ECH parts are lifetime
> so it may be the rad is under waranty. Still might pay the local
> shop to do the swapout since they usually get parts from NAPA.
>
> I'm just tired of messing with it. Even though it's an "easy" fix.
> There comes a time when it's worth it to pay someone to take the
> problem off your hands. :)
--
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I don't blame you, there are many new cold records being set, and I
believe your Colorado, Oklahoma are among them.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
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>
> I'll drop in and ask. The 30 days I got off the sales slip and
> napa website. Come to think of it the ECH parts are lifetime
> so it may be the rad is under waranty. Still might pay the local
> shop to do the swapout since they usually get parts from NAPA.
>
> I'm just tired of messing with it. Even though it's an "easy" fix.
> There comes a time when it's worth it to pay someone to take the
> problem off your hands. :)
--
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Hi Doug,
I don't blame you, there are many new cold records being set, and I
believe your Colorado, Oklahoma are among them.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
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>
> I'll drop in and ask. The 30 days I got off the sales slip and
> napa website. Come to think of it the ECH parts are lifetime
> so it may be the rad is under waranty. Still might pay the local
> shop to do the swapout since they usually get parts from NAPA.
>
> I'm just tired of messing with it. Even though it's an "easy" fix.
> There comes a time when it's worth it to pay someone to take the
> problem off your hands. :)
--
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I don't blame you, there are many new cold records being set, and I
believe your Colorado, Oklahoma are among them.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
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>
> I'll drop in and ask. The 30 days I got off the sales slip and
> napa website. Come to think of it the ECH parts are lifetime
> so it may be the rad is under waranty. Still might pay the local
> shop to do the swapout since they usually get parts from NAPA.
>
> I'm just tired of messing with it. Even though it's an "easy" fix.
> There comes a time when it's worth it to pay someone to take the
> problem off your hands. :)
--
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Re: ah foo
Hi Doug,
I don't blame you, there are many new cold records being set, and I
believe your Colorado, Oklahoma are among them.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
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>
> I'll drop in and ask. The 30 days I got off the sales slip and
> napa website. Come to think of it the ECH parts are lifetime
> so it may be the rad is under waranty. Still might pay the local
> shop to do the swapout since they usually get parts from NAPA.
>
> I'm just tired of messing with it. Even though it's an "easy" fix.
> There comes a time when it's worth it to pay someone to take the
> problem off your hands. :)
--
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I don't blame you, there are many new cold records being set, and I
believe your Colorado, Oklahoma are among them.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
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>
> I'll drop in and ask. The 30 days I got off the sales slip and
> napa website. Come to think of it the ECH parts are lifetime
> so it may be the rad is under waranty. Still might pay the local
> shop to do the swapout since they usually get parts from NAPA.
>
> I'm just tired of messing with it. Even though it's an "easy" fix.
> There comes a time when it's worth it to pay someone to take the
> problem off your hands. :)
--
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Re: ah foo
Hi Doug,
I don't blame you, there are many new cold records being set, and I
believe your Colorado, Oklahoma are among them.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
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>
> I'll drop in and ask. The 30 days I got off the sales slip and
> napa website. Come to think of it the ECH parts are lifetime
> so it may be the rad is under waranty. Still might pay the local
> shop to do the swapout since they usually get parts from NAPA.
>
> I'm just tired of messing with it. Even though it's an "easy" fix.
> There comes a time when it's worth it to pay someone to take the
> problem off your hands. :)
--
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I don't blame you, there are many new cold records being set, and I
believe your Colorado, Oklahoma are among them.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
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>
> I'll drop in and ask. The 30 days I got off the sales slip and
> napa website. Come to think of it the ECH parts are lifetime
> so it may be the rad is under waranty. Still might pay the local
> shop to do the swapout since they usually get parts from NAPA.
>
> I'm just tired of messing with it. Even though it's an "easy" fix.
> There comes a time when it's worth it to pay someone to take the
> problem off your hands. :)
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Just a followup.
Napa has a two year waranty on that part so I have a replacement on
order and will pick it up tomorow. They will charge me for the part
but refund it when I return the defective unit. That's cool.
Also decided to let a local repair shop I know do the R&R since it's
too darn cold to work outside and doing the radiator in the garage
was no fun and left one hell of a mess. Besides, they have given me
enough free advice it's about time I give them some work.
Only problem I have with this is the radiator surrounds are darn tricky
to get right and there are literally twenty friggin fastners to remove.
Learned this when I did the harmonic balancer and the last radiator.
...sigh.. if only it was a nice warm 80F outside :(
--
DougW
Napa has a two year waranty on that part so I have a replacement on
order and will pick it up tomorow. They will charge me for the part
but refund it when I return the defective unit. That's cool.
Also decided to let a local repair shop I know do the R&R since it's
too darn cold to work outside and doing the radiator in the garage
was no fun and left one hell of a mess. Besides, they have given me
enough free advice it's about time I give them some work.
Only problem I have with this is the radiator surrounds are darn tricky
to get right and there are literally twenty friggin fastners to remove.
Learned this when I did the harmonic balancer and the last radiator.
...sigh.. if only it was a nice warm 80F outside :(
--
DougW