Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

Am looking for new vehicle. Am very tall. Wranglers have the headroom and
the Unlimited has enough legroom (yes, that extra inch does matter). I
don't go off road all that often, but I like to be in good hands when I do.
And the wranger seems to be a lot of fun. The Honda Pilot would be my other
choice.

Is the new Wrangler Unlimited a good choice? Are they reasonably reliable,
or do the wranglers still have a lot of problems? Are the '07 models going
to be that much better?

I notice that the 06 warranty is only 3yr/36000mi, where the 05 was 7 years.
Is there a message in that?

Thanks in advance.

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

Oops, one other thing: The window stickers say 14 mpg city, 19 hwy. I
drove a 1997 TJ and got 18 mostly city. Did something get worse? What kind
of mileage are you getting?

Thanks again

"ibuildthings" <hopespa-m_me-not888@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:9_-dnXZPiOJ_H2feRVn-rg@comcast.com...
> Am looking for new vehicle. Am very tall. Wranglers have the headroom
> and the Unlimited has enough legroom (yes, that extra inch does matter).
> I don't go off road all that often, but I like to be in good hands when I
> do. And the wranger seems to be a lot of fun. The Honda Pilot would be my
> other choice.
>
> Is the new Wrangler Unlimited a good choice? Are they reasonably
> reliable, or do the wranglers still have a lot of problems? Are the '07
> models going to be that much better?
>
> I notice that the 06 warranty is only 3yr/36000mi, where the 05 was 7
> years. Is there a message in that?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

Oops, one other thing: The window stickers say 14 mpg city, 19 hwy. I
drove a 1997 TJ and got 18 mostly city. Did something get worse? What kind
of mileage are you getting?

Thanks again

"ibuildthings" <hopespa-m_me-not888@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:9_-dnXZPiOJ_H2feRVn-rg@comcast.com...
> Am looking for new vehicle. Am very tall. Wranglers have the headroom
> and the Unlimited has enough legroom (yes, that extra inch does matter).
> I don't go off road all that often, but I like to be in good hands when I
> do. And the wranger seems to be a lot of fun. The Honda Pilot would be my
> other choice.
>
> Is the new Wrangler Unlimited a good choice? Are they reasonably
> reliable, or do the wranglers still have a lot of problems? Are the '07
> models going to be that much better?
>
> I notice that the 06 warranty is only 3yr/36000mi, where the 05 was 7
> years. Is there a message in that?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

Oops, one other thing: The window stickers say 14 mpg city, 19 hwy. I
drove a 1997 TJ and got 18 mostly city. Did something get worse? What kind
of mileage are you getting?

Thanks again

"ibuildthings" <hopespa-m_me-not888@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:9_-dnXZPiOJ_H2feRVn-rg@comcast.com...
> Am looking for new vehicle. Am very tall. Wranglers have the headroom
> and the Unlimited has enough legroom (yes, that extra inch does matter).
> I don't go off road all that often, but I like to be in good hands when I
> do. And the wranger seems to be a lot of fun. The Honda Pilot would be my
> other choice.
>
> Is the new Wrangler Unlimited a good choice? Are they reasonably
> reliable, or do the wranglers still have a lot of problems? Are the '07
> models going to be that much better?
>
> I notice that the 06 warranty is only 3yr/36000mi, where the 05 was 7
> years. Is there a message in that?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

Oops, one other thing: The window stickers say 14 mpg city, 19 hwy. I
drove a 1997 TJ and got 18 mostly city. Did something get worse? What kind
of mileage are you getting?

Thanks again

"ibuildthings" <hopespa-m_me-not888@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:9_-dnXZPiOJ_H2feRVn-rg@comcast.com...
> Am looking for new vehicle. Am very tall. Wranglers have the headroom
> and the Unlimited has enough legroom (yes, that extra inch does matter).
> I don't go off road all that often, but I like to be in good hands when I
> do. And the wranger seems to be a lot of fun. The Honda Pilot would be my
> other choice.
>
> Is the new Wrangler Unlimited a good choice? Are they reasonably
> reliable, or do the wranglers still have a lot of problems? Are the '07
> models going to be that much better?
>
> I notice that the 06 warranty is only 3yr/36000mi, where the 05 was 7
> years. Is there a message in that?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

first off nothing is like a jeep. second i have a jeep with 150k miles
and still going strong, my friend has 250k miles never been rebuilt and
still takes it out to go rock climbing and trail riding. aslong as u
change oil when you should and mantain it like you should with anyother
car you will be fine

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

first off nothing is like a jeep. second i have a jeep with 150k miles
and still going strong, my friend has 250k miles never been rebuilt and
still takes it out to go rock climbing and trail riding. aslong as u
change oil when you should and mantain it like you should with anyother
car you will be fine

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

first off nothing is like a jeep. second i have a jeep with 150k miles
and still going strong, my friend has 250k miles never been rebuilt and
still takes it out to go rock climbing and trail riding. aslong as u
change oil when you should and mantain it like you should with anyother
car you will be fine

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

first off nothing is like a jeep. second i have a jeep with 150k miles
and still going strong, my friend has 250k miles never been rebuilt and
still takes it out to go rock climbing and trail riding. aslong as u
change oil when you should and mantain it like you should with anyother
car you will be fine

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

I looked at the unlimited a year ago and decided against it for three
reasons.

1. It didn't have fulltime 4wd. That would be a disadvantage for me
as I would use it for traveling in all kinds of weather. I checked
into the possibility of swapping out the transfer case for a selectrac
type transfer case, but the dealer said that couldn't be done.
2. It seems a bit sluggish when accelerating. It does have the zip
that my Cherokee does. Must be geared differently and I am use to a
quick acceleration.
3. Given the above two factors, I think that it is priced a bit high.

On the other hand it will likely be less expensive to maintain than the
Pilot. When Hondas go bad they seem to be very expensive to fix.

I am not sure what you mean by wranglers having a lot of problems. I
have a 99 and it has been very reliable. In fact in my three jeeps,
GC,Cherokee, and wrangler I have had very good luck with them.

For my money I would go with full time fwd.

Larry

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

I looked at the unlimited a year ago and decided against it for three
reasons.

1. It didn't have fulltime 4wd. That would be a disadvantage for me
as I would use it for traveling in all kinds of weather. I checked
into the possibility of swapping out the transfer case for a selectrac
type transfer case, but the dealer said that couldn't be done.
2. It seems a bit sluggish when accelerating. It does have the zip
that my Cherokee does. Must be geared differently and I am use to a
quick acceleration.
3. Given the above two factors, I think that it is priced a bit high.

On the other hand it will likely be less expensive to maintain than the
Pilot. When Hondas go bad they seem to be very expensive to fix.

I am not sure what you mean by wranglers having a lot of problems. I
have a 99 and it has been very reliable. In fact in my three jeeps,
GC,Cherokee, and wrangler I have had very good luck with them.

For my money I would go with full time fwd.

Larry

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

I looked at the unlimited a year ago and decided against it for three
reasons.

1. It didn't have fulltime 4wd. That would be a disadvantage for me
as I would use it for traveling in all kinds of weather. I checked
into the possibility of swapping out the transfer case for a selectrac
type transfer case, but the dealer said that couldn't be done.
2. It seems a bit sluggish when accelerating. It does have the zip
that my Cherokee does. Must be geared differently and I am use to a
quick acceleration.
3. Given the above two factors, I think that it is priced a bit high.

On the other hand it will likely be less expensive to maintain than the
Pilot. When Hondas go bad they seem to be very expensive to fix.

I am not sure what you mean by wranglers having a lot of problems. I
have a 99 and it has been very reliable. In fact in my three jeeps,
GC,Cherokee, and wrangler I have had very good luck with them.

For my money I would go with full time fwd.

Larry

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

I looked at the unlimited a year ago and decided against it for three
reasons.

1. It didn't have fulltime 4wd. That would be a disadvantage for me
as I would use it for traveling in all kinds of weather. I checked
into the possibility of swapping out the transfer case for a selectrac
type transfer case, but the dealer said that couldn't be done.
2. It seems a bit sluggish when accelerating. It does have the zip
that my Cherokee does. Must be geared differently and I am use to a
quick acceleration.
3. Given the above two factors, I think that it is priced a bit high.

On the other hand it will likely be less expensive to maintain than the
Pilot. When Hondas go bad they seem to be very expensive to fix.

I am not sure what you mean by wranglers having a lot of problems. I
have a 99 and it has been very reliable. In fact in my three jeeps,
GC,Cherokee, and wrangler I have had very good luck with them.

For my money I would go with full time fwd.

Larry

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

Oop, on Item 2, I meant to say "It does not have the zip that my
Cherokee does."

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

Oop, on Item 2, I meant to say "It does not have the zip that my
Cherokee does."

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

Oop, on Item 2, I meant to say "It does not have the zip that my
Cherokee does."

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

Oop, on Item 2, I meant to say "It does not have the zip that my
Cherokee does."

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

Talk about apples and oranges. Since you are asking this question, I
recommend you buy the Honda. You buy a Jeep because you want a Jeep.

Warranty lengths change with the winds. They are more of an incentive
than a reflection of the vehicle's reliability. There ARE exceptions to
that, of course, on both sides. Look at the Kia's warranty (10 yr??)
You'd think it was one of the most reliable vehicles out there. :)

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

ibuildthings wrote:
> Am looking for new vehicle. Am very tall. Wranglers have the headroom and
> the Unlimited has enough legroom (yes, that extra inch does matter). I
> don't go off road all that often, but I like to be in good hands when I do.
> And the wranger seems to be a lot of fun. The Honda Pilot would be my other
> choice.
>
> Is the new Wrangler Unlimited a good choice? Are they reasonably reliable,
> or do the wranglers still have a lot of problems? Are the '07 models going
> to be that much better?
>
> I notice that the 06 warranty is only 3yr/36000mi, where the 05 was 7 years.
> Is there a message in that?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

Talk about apples and oranges. Since you are asking this question, I
recommend you buy the Honda. You buy a Jeep because you want a Jeep.

Warranty lengths change with the winds. They are more of an incentive
than a reflection of the vehicle's reliability. There ARE exceptions to
that, of course, on both sides. Look at the Kia's warranty (10 yr??)
You'd think it was one of the most reliable vehicles out there. :)

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

ibuildthings wrote:
> Am looking for new vehicle. Am very tall. Wranglers have the headroom and
> the Unlimited has enough legroom (yes, that extra inch does matter). I
> don't go off road all that often, but I like to be in good hands when I do.
> And the wranger seems to be a lot of fun. The Honda Pilot would be my other
> choice.
>
> Is the new Wrangler Unlimited a good choice? Are they reasonably reliable,
> or do the wranglers still have a lot of problems? Are the '07 models going
> to be that much better?
>
> I notice that the 06 warranty is only 3yr/36000mi, where the 05 was 7 years.
> Is there a message in that?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

Talk about apples and oranges. Since you are asking this question, I
recommend you buy the Honda. You buy a Jeep because you want a Jeep.

Warranty lengths change with the winds. They are more of an incentive
than a reflection of the vehicle's reliability. There ARE exceptions to
that, of course, on both sides. Look at the Kia's warranty (10 yr??)
You'd think it was one of the most reliable vehicles out there. :)

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

ibuildthings wrote:
> Am looking for new vehicle. Am very tall. Wranglers have the headroom and
> the Unlimited has enough legroom (yes, that extra inch does matter). I
> don't go off road all that often, but I like to be in good hands when I do.
> And the wranger seems to be a lot of fun. The Honda Pilot would be my other
> choice.
>
> Is the new Wrangler Unlimited a good choice? Are they reasonably reliable,
> or do the wranglers still have a lot of problems? Are the '07 models going
> to be that much better?
>
> I notice that the 06 warranty is only 3yr/36000mi, where the 05 was 7 years.
> Is there a message in that?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

Talk about apples and oranges. Since you are asking this question, I
recommend you buy the Honda. You buy a Jeep because you want a Jeep.

Warranty lengths change with the winds. They are more of an incentive
than a reflection of the vehicle's reliability. There ARE exceptions to
that, of course, on both sides. Look at the Kia's warranty (10 yr??)
You'd think it was one of the most reliable vehicles out there. :)

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

ibuildthings wrote:
> Am looking for new vehicle. Am very tall. Wranglers have the headroom and
> the Unlimited has enough legroom (yes, that extra inch does matter). I
> don't go off road all that often, but I like to be in good hands when I do.
> And the wranger seems to be a lot of fun. The Honda Pilot would be my other
> choice.
>
> Is the new Wrangler Unlimited a good choice? Are they reasonably reliable,
> or do the wranglers still have a lot of problems? Are the '07 models going
> to be that much better?
>
> I notice that the 06 warranty is only 3yr/36000mi, where the 05 was 7 years.
> Is there a message in that?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

"Since you are asking this question, I recommend you buy the
Honda." DITTO!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

twaldron wrote:
>
> Talk about apples and oranges. Since you are asking this question, I
> recommend you buy the Honda. You buy a Jeep because you want a Jeep.
>
> Warranty lengths change with the winds. They are more of an incentive
> than a reflection of the vehicle's reliability. There ARE exceptions to
> that, of course, on both sides. Look at the Kia's warranty (10 yr??)
> You'd think it was one of the most reliable vehicles out there. :)
>
> tw
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

"Since you are asking this question, I recommend you buy the
Honda." DITTO!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

twaldron wrote:
>
> Talk about apples and oranges. Since you are asking this question, I
> recommend you buy the Honda. You buy a Jeep because you want a Jeep.
>
> Warranty lengths change with the winds. They are more of an incentive
> than a reflection of the vehicle's reliability. There ARE exceptions to
> that, of course, on both sides. Look at the Kia's warranty (10 yr??)
> You'd think it was one of the most reliable vehicles out there. :)
>
> tw
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

"Since you are asking this question, I recommend you buy the
Honda." DITTO!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

twaldron wrote:
>
> Talk about apples and oranges. Since you are asking this question, I
> recommend you buy the Honda. You buy a Jeep because you want a Jeep.
>
> Warranty lengths change with the winds. They are more of an incentive
> than a reflection of the vehicle's reliability. There ARE exceptions to
> that, of course, on both sides. Look at the Kia's warranty (10 yr??)
> You'd think it was one of the most reliable vehicles out there. :)
>
> tw
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

"Since you are asking this question, I recommend you buy the
Honda." DITTO!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

twaldron wrote:
>
> Talk about apples and oranges. Since you are asking this question, I
> recommend you buy the Honda. You buy a Jeep because you want a Jeep.
>
> Warranty lengths change with the winds. They are more of an incentive
> than a reflection of the vehicle's reliability. There ARE exceptions to
> that, of course, on both sides. Look at the Kia's warranty (10 yr??)
> You'd think it was one of the most reliable vehicles out there. :)
>
> tw
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

The jeep is definately more fun to drive. That would cinch the deal for me,
unless the board collectively told me to go to auto mechanics' school before
buying a Jeep.

I bought a VW New Beetle for my wife several years ago, because it was much
more fun to drive than the Camry we were looking at. The VW has had more
mechanical troubles than Camry's do, although I would still make the same
decision. It really is a lot of fun.

"twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
news:8NOdnWJPcslEDGbenZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Talk about apples and oranges. Since you are asking this question, I
> recommend you buy the Honda. You buy a Jeep because you want a Jeep.
>

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

The jeep is definately more fun to drive. That would cinch the deal for me,
unless the board collectively told me to go to auto mechanics' school before
buying a Jeep.

I bought a VW New Beetle for my wife several years ago, because it was much
more fun to drive than the Camry we were looking at. The VW has had more
mechanical troubles than Camry's do, although I would still make the same
decision. It really is a lot of fun.

"twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
news:8NOdnWJPcslEDGbenZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Talk about apples and oranges. Since you are asking this question, I
> recommend you buy the Honda. You buy a Jeep because you want a Jeep.
>

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

The jeep is definately more fun to drive. That would cinch the deal for me,
unless the board collectively told me to go to auto mechanics' school before
buying a Jeep.

I bought a VW New Beetle for my wife several years ago, because it was much
more fun to drive than the Camry we were looking at. The VW has had more
mechanical troubles than Camry's do, although I would still make the same
decision. It really is a lot of fun.

"twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
news:8NOdnWJPcslEDGbenZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Talk about apples and oranges. Since you are asking this question, I
> recommend you buy the Honda. You buy a Jeep because you want a Jeep.
>

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

The jeep is definately more fun to drive. That would cinch the deal for me,
unless the board collectively told me to go to auto mechanics' school before
buying a Jeep.

I bought a VW New Beetle for my wife several years ago, because it was much
more fun to drive than the Camry we were looking at. The VW has had more
mechanical troubles than Camry's do, although I would still make the same
decision. It really is a lot of fun.

"twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
news:8NOdnWJPcslEDGbenZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Talk about apples and oranges. Since you are asking this question, I
> recommend you buy the Honda. You buy a Jeep because you want a Jeep.
>

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

ibuildthings wrote:
> The jeep is definately more fun to drive. That would cinch the deal for me,
> unless the board collectively told me to go to auto mechanics' school before
> buying a Jeep.


Nope, no reason to do that. Although it's always better to know as much
as you can about your vehicle, no matter what it is. If you end up
modding your Jeep, you will learn TONS. This place is a great resource.


> I bought a VW New Beetle for my wife several years ago, because it was much
> more fun to drive than the Camry we were looking at. The VW has had more
> mechanical troubles than Camry's do, although I would still make the same
> decision. It really is a lot of fun.
>
> "twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:8NOdnWJPcslEDGbenZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>Talk about apples and oranges. Since you are asking this question, I
>>recommend you buy the Honda. You buy a Jeep because you want a Jeep.


__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

ibuildthings wrote:
> The jeep is definately more fun to drive. That would cinch the deal for me,
> unless the board collectively told me to go to auto mechanics' school before
> buying a Jeep.


Nope, no reason to do that. Although it's always better to know as much
as you can about your vehicle, no matter what it is. If you end up
modding your Jeep, you will learn TONS. This place is a great resource.


> I bought a VW New Beetle for my wife several years ago, because it was much
> more fun to drive than the Camry we were looking at. The VW has had more
> mechanical troubles than Camry's do, although I would still make the same
> decision. It really is a lot of fun.
>
> "twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:8NOdnWJPcslEDGbenZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>Talk about apples and oranges. Since you are asking this question, I
>>recommend you buy the Honda. You buy a Jeep because you want a Jeep.


__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
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Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

ibuildthings wrote:
> The jeep is definately more fun to drive. That would cinch the deal for me,
> unless the board collectively told me to go to auto mechanics' school before
> buying a Jeep.


Nope, no reason to do that. Although it's always better to know as much
as you can about your vehicle, no matter what it is. If you end up
modding your Jeep, you will learn TONS. This place is a great resource.


> I bought a VW New Beetle for my wife several years ago, because it was much
> more fun to drive than the Camry we were looking at. The VW has had more
> mechanical troubles than Camry's do, although I would still make the same
> decision. It really is a lot of fun.
>
> "twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:8NOdnWJPcslEDGbenZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>Talk about apples and oranges. Since you are asking this question, I
>>recommend you buy the Honda. You buy a Jeep because you want a Jeep.


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2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

ibuildthings wrote:
> The jeep is definately more fun to drive. That would cinch the deal for me,
> unless the board collectively told me to go to auto mechanics' school before
> buying a Jeep.


Nope, no reason to do that. Although it's always better to know as much
as you can about your vehicle, no matter what it is. If you end up
modding your Jeep, you will learn TONS. This place is a great resource.


> I bought a VW New Beetle for my wife several years ago, because it was much
> more fun to drive than the Camry we were looking at. The VW has had more
> mechanical troubles than Camry's do, although I would still make the same
> decision. It really is a lot of fun.
>
> "twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:8NOdnWJPcslEDGbenZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>Talk about apples and oranges. Since you are asking this question, I
>>recommend you buy the Honda. You buy a Jeep because you want a Jeep.


__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

I have an 05 Rubi Unlimited. I'd advise that you go to the dealer and sit in
one and close the door. My biggest complaint is the shoulder width. I have
to lean to the middle to clear my shoulders on the roll bar. Still, I
wouldn't trade it for the world. It's the best car/truck I've ever bought.
Simple/Bulletproof/Reliable/Moddable to the end of time.

If you like to work on things, than the Wrangler is for you. If you want
20mph and a trouble free ride, go get the honda.
--
mark
www.hydrotoys.com


"ibuildthings" <hopespa-m_me-not888@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:9_-dnXZPiOJ_H2feRVn-rg@comcast.com...
> Am looking for new vehicle. Am very tall. Wranglers have the headroom
> and the Unlimited has enough legroom (yes, that extra inch does matter).
> I don't go off road all that often, but I like to be in good hands when I
> do. And the wranger seems to be a lot of fun. The Honda Pilot would be my
> other choice.
>
> Is the new Wrangler Unlimited a good choice? Are they reasonably
> reliable, or do the wranglers still have a lot of problems? Are the '07
> models going to be that much better?
>
> I notice that the 06 warranty is only 3yr/36000mi, where the 05 was 7
> years. Is there a message in that?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

I have an 05 Rubi Unlimited. I'd advise that you go to the dealer and sit in
one and close the door. My biggest complaint is the shoulder width. I have
to lean to the middle to clear my shoulders on the roll bar. Still, I
wouldn't trade it for the world. It's the best car/truck I've ever bought.
Simple/Bulletproof/Reliable/Moddable to the end of time.

If you like to work on things, than the Wrangler is for you. If you want
20mph and a trouble free ride, go get the honda.
--
mark
www.hydrotoys.com


"ibuildthings" <hopespa-m_me-not888@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:9_-dnXZPiOJ_H2feRVn-rg@comcast.com...
> Am looking for new vehicle. Am very tall. Wranglers have the headroom
> and the Unlimited has enough legroom (yes, that extra inch does matter).
> I don't go off road all that often, but I like to be in good hands when I
> do. And the wranger seems to be a lot of fun. The Honda Pilot would be my
> other choice.
>
> Is the new Wrangler Unlimited a good choice? Are they reasonably
> reliable, or do the wranglers still have a lot of problems? Are the '07
> models going to be that much better?
>
> I notice that the 06 warranty is only 3yr/36000mi, where the 05 was 7
> years. Is there a message in that?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

I have an 05 Rubi Unlimited. I'd advise that you go to the dealer and sit in
one and close the door. My biggest complaint is the shoulder width. I have
to lean to the middle to clear my shoulders on the roll bar. Still, I
wouldn't trade it for the world. It's the best car/truck I've ever bought.
Simple/Bulletproof/Reliable/Moddable to the end of time.

If you like to work on things, than the Wrangler is for you. If you want
20mph and a trouble free ride, go get the honda.
--
mark
www.hydrotoys.com


"ibuildthings" <hopespa-m_me-not888@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:9_-dnXZPiOJ_H2feRVn-rg@comcast.com...
> Am looking for new vehicle. Am very tall. Wranglers have the headroom
> and the Unlimited has enough legroom (yes, that extra inch does matter).
> I don't go off road all that often, but I like to be in good hands when I
> do. And the wranger seems to be a lot of fun. The Honda Pilot would be my
> other choice.
>
> Is the new Wrangler Unlimited a good choice? Are they reasonably
> reliable, or do the wranglers still have a lot of problems? Are the '07
> models going to be that much better?
>
> I notice that the 06 warranty is only 3yr/36000mi, where the 05 was 7
> years. Is there a message in that?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

I have an 05 Rubi Unlimited. I'd advise that you go to the dealer and sit in
one and close the door. My biggest complaint is the shoulder width. I have
to lean to the middle to clear my shoulders on the roll bar. Still, I
wouldn't trade it for the world. It's the best car/truck I've ever bought.
Simple/Bulletproof/Reliable/Moddable to the end of time.

If you like to work on things, than the Wrangler is for you. If you want
20mph and a trouble free ride, go get the honda.
--
mark
www.hydrotoys.com


"ibuildthings" <hopespa-m_me-not888@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:9_-dnXZPiOJ_H2feRVn-rg@comcast.com...
> Am looking for new vehicle. Am very tall. Wranglers have the headroom
> and the Unlimited has enough legroom (yes, that extra inch does matter).
> I don't go off road all that often, but I like to be in good hands when I
> do. And the wranger seems to be a lot of fun. The Honda Pilot would be my
> other choice.
>
> Is the new Wrangler Unlimited a good choice? Are they reasonably
> reliable, or do the wranglers still have a lot of problems? Are the '07
> models going to be that much better?
>
> I notice that the 06 warranty is only 3yr/36000mi, where the 05 was 7
> years. Is there a message in that?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

>
> If you like to work on things, than the Wrangler is for you. If you want
> 20mph and a trouble free ride, go get the honda.

20mph? I'm sure they can go faster'n that! :)

( lurker out of hiding for a moment-lol )
R.

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

>
> If you like to work on things, than the Wrangler is for you. If you want
> 20mph and a trouble free ride, go get the honda.

20mph? I'm sure they can go faster'n that! :)

( lurker out of hiding for a moment-lol )
R.

Re: Advice: New wrangler unlimited?
 

>
> If you like to work on things, than the Wrangler is for you. If you want
> 20mph and a trouble free ride, go get the honda.

20mph? I'm sure they can go faster'n that! :)

( lurker out of hiding for a moment-lol )
R.