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I tried posting this earlier and am not sure it went through....

I am looking at a 1999 Jeep Cherokee (2WD, 4 door), a 2001 Jeep
Cherokee Sport (2WD, 2 door), and a 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport (2WD, 4
door). I'm concerned by all of the complaints I've seen online
regarding the poor quality/reliability of the brakes/rotors. I saw
that there was a 2000 Recall on the front rotors, and I was hoping a
Jeep expert could tell me if the 2000 or 2001 models are more reliable
than the 1999 model, or do all three have the same problems. All
three cars are comparable (25K miles, 6 cyl., Auto tran., ~$11K), but
I have reservations in purchasing a vehicle I will have to replace
brakes/rotors so often for. Any insights and suggestions (via email
or post) would be greatly appreciated.

Kevin in Iowa

I have a 99 Cherokee and have around 82k on it right now, and have only
relplaced the front pads at around 55k, most of the problems with rotors
warping were on the Grand Cherokee, not the XJ.

Kevin in Iowa
99 XJ
http://7slotgrille.com/jeepers/lwb/kevinxj/index.html

Mike Debacker

I have a simple solution....by what ever jeep you want (they are both
awsom..I own a 98 cherokee) and purchase fully metalic pads and cross
drilled rotors....and yes most cherokees have front brake prob's. I replaced
mine after 30,000k (I did a cross Canada tour plus a trip to Salt Lake
City).
For sale <stantheman312@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I tried posting this earlier and am not sure it went through....
>
> I am looking at a 1999 Jeep Cherokee (2WD, 4 door), a 2001 Jeep
> Cherokee Sport (2WD, 2 door), and a 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport (2WD, 4
> door). I'm concerned by all of the complaints I've seen online
> regarding the poor quality/reliability of the brakes/rotors. I saw
> that there was a 2000 Recall on the front rotors, and I was hoping a
> Jeep expert could tell me if the 2000 or 2001 models are more reliable
> than the 1999 model, or do all three have the same problems. All
> three cars are comparable (25K miles, 6 cyl., Auto tran., ~$11K), but
> I have reservations in purchasing a vehicle I will have to replace
> brakes/rotors so often for. Any insights and suggestions (via email
> or post) would be greatly appreciated.

Road Toad

My '97 Cherokee Sport (2dr, Auto, 2wd) had those 'thin' rotors and they were
replaced at 55k when the brakes were done. No problem since at 110k.
Replacing rotors is not uncommon so this is just a bit earlier than usual.

Love my Jeep.


"For sale" <stantheman312@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7058dd70.0308011252.4ef9b20@posting.google.co m...
> I tried posting this earlier and am not sure it went through....
>
> I am looking at a 1999 Jeep Cherokee (2WD, 4 door), a 2001 Jeep
> Cherokee Sport (2WD, 2 door), and a 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport (2WD, 4
> door). I'm concerned by all of the complaints I've seen online
> regarding the poor quality/reliability of the brakes/rotors. I saw
> that there was a 2000 Recall on the front rotors, and I was hoping a
> Jeep expert could tell me if the 2000 or 2001 models are more reliable
> than the 1999 model, or do all three have the same problems. All
> three cars are comparable (25K miles, 6 cyl., Auto tran., ~$11K), but
> I have reservations in purchasing a vehicle I will have to replace
> brakes/rotors so often for. Any insights and suggestions (via email
> or post) would be greatly appreciated.

Thomas W.

Mine started warping at around 10k or less. That IS a problem. They are
doing it again at 20k.

Road Toad wrote:
> My '97 Cherokee Sport (2dr, Auto, 2wd) had those 'thin' rotors and they were
> replaced at 55k when the brakes were done. No problem since at 110k.
> Replacing rotors is not uncommon so this is just a bit earlier than usual.
>
> Love my Jeep.
>
>
> "For sale" <stantheman312@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:7058dd70.0308011252.4ef9b20@posting.google.co m...
>
>>I tried posting this earlier and am not sure it went through....
>>
>>I am looking at a 1999 Jeep Cherokee (2WD, 4 door), a 2001 Jeep
>>Cherokee Sport (2WD, 2 door), and a 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport (2WD, 4
>>door). I'm concerned by all of the complaints I've seen online
>>regarding the poor quality/reliability of the brakes/rotors. I saw
>>that there was a 2000 Recall on the front rotors, and I was hoping a
>>Jeep expert could tell me if the 2000 or 2001 models are more reliable
>>than the 1999 model, or do all three have the same problems. All
>>three cars are comparable (25K miles, 6 cyl., Auto tran., ~$11K), but
>>I have reservations in purchasing a vehicle I will have to replace
>>brakes/rotors so often for. Any insights and suggestions (via email
>>or post) would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>


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It is not so bad once you start thinking of them as service parts, like an
oil filter...

Earle

"Thomas W." <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
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> Mine started warping at around 10k or less. That IS a problem. They are
> doing it again at 20k.
>
> Road Toad wrote:
> > My '97 Cherokee Sport (2dr, Auto, 2wd) had those 'thin' rotors and they
were
> > replaced at 55k when the brakes were done. No problem since at 110k.
> > Replacing rotors is not uncommon so this is just a bit earlier than
usual.
> >
> > Love my Jeep.
> >
> >
> > "For sale" <stantheman312@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:7058dd70.0308011252.4ef9b20@posting.google.co m...
> >
> >>I tried posting this earlier and am not sure it went through....
> >>
> >>I am looking at a 1999 Jeep Cherokee (2WD, 4 door), a 2001 Jeep
> >>Cherokee Sport (2WD, 2 door), and a 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport (2WD, 4
> >>door). I'm concerned by all of the complaints I've seen online
> >>regarding the poor quality/reliability of the brakes/rotors. I saw
> >>that there was a 2000 Recall on the front rotors, and I was hoping a
> >>Jeep expert could tell me if the 2000 or 2001 models are more reliable
> >>than the 1999 model, or do all three have the same problems. All
> >>three cars are comparable (25K miles, 6 cyl., Auto tran., ~$11K), but
> >>I have reservations in purchasing a vehicle I will have to replace
> >>brakes/rotors so often for. Any insights and suggestions (via email
> >>or post) would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
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John Sevey

In rec.autos.makers.jeep+****** For sale <stantheman312@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I am looking at a 1999 Jeep Cherokee (2WD, 4 door), a 2001 Jeep
> Cherokee Sport (2WD, 2 door), and a 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport (2WD, 4
> door). I'm concerned by all of the complaints I've seen online
> regarding the poor quality/reliability of the brakes/rotors. I saw
> that there was a 2000 Recall on the front rotors, and I was hoping a
> Jeep expert could tell me if the 2000 or 2001 models are more reliable
> than the 1999 model, or do all three have the same problems.

Not sure about the 2WD Cherokee, but the 4WD had a recall sometime around
2000 due to the possibility that the brake rotor could separate. I think that
this was mostly in the "rust belt" areas of the US where road salt is commonly
used. There may have also been issues with warping, but I don't remember there
being any recall for that.

My '98 4WD Cherokee had the original rotors replaced at about 15000 miles due to
warping. The replacement rotors lasted all the way up to about 50000 miles.
At that time, they were replaced again due to the "rotor separation" recall.
The replacement rotors only lasted about 15000 miles -- like the originals.

I've now gone with after market el-cheapo rotors as replacements. So far
they've made it past 10000 without warping. The nice part is that the
ordinary cheap replacements on the 4WD Cherokee only cost about $20 and are
easy to replace. I'm not sure, but the 2WD Cherokee's rotors may include
the wheel bearing surfaces, too. The 4WD uses a non-user-serviceable bearing
hub. Because the bearing is separate from the brake rotor, the rotors on the
4WD Cherokee are simple and cheap to replace.

> All
> three cars are comparable (25K miles, 6 cyl., Auto tran., ~$11K), but
> I have reservations in purchasing a vehicle I will have to replace
> brakes/rotors so often for. Any insights and suggestions (via email
> or post) would be greatly appreciated.

Some folks have said that aftermarket cross drilled rotors last much
longer. I'll probably try a set of those after I see how far the
cheap ones go.

Good luck.

-John

Jim Hunter

I have a 2001 Grand Cherokee which I bought used 1 year ago with 25k miles
on the odometer. The first thing I did after purchasing was to take it my
dealer and complain about brake pedal pulsing (a sign o warped rotors). The
fix was new improved frt calipers, new rotors, new pads...all covered under
warranty. I beleive the problem is NOT the rotors, but a design defect in
the calipers. I have put 25k miles more miles on this new front brake setup,
with NO brake rotor warping, no problems. Also, I suggest that you take the
time to use a torque wrench to tighten each of the lug nuts to 85 lbs/in.
That helps prevent warpage, I think.

It seems to have taken Jeep 3 years (1999-2002) to figure out and fix the
design defect in the front brake system. ASK FOR NEW FRT BRAKE CALIPERS,
ROTORS, AND PADS UNDER WARRANTY!


"John Sevey" <seveyj@no.spam.like.substance.wi.rr.com> wrote in message
news:%g_Wa.70747$6a3.1778660@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> In rec.autos.makers.jeep+****** For sale <stantheman312@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I am looking at a 1999 Jeep Cherokee (2WD, 4 door), a 2001 Jeep
> > Cherokee Sport (2WD, 2 door), and a 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport (2WD, 4
> > door). I'm concerned by all of the complaints I've seen online
> > regarding the poor quality/reliability of the brakes/rotors. I saw
> > that there was a 2000 Recall on the front rotors, and I was hoping a
> > Jeep expert could tell me if the 2000 or 2001 models are more reliable
> > than the 1999 model, or do all three have the same problems.
>
> Not sure about the 2WD Cherokee, but the 4WD had a recall sometime around
> 2000 due to the possibility that the brake rotor could separate. I think
that
> this was mostly in the "rust belt" areas of the US where road salt is
commonly
> used. There may have also been issues with warping, but I don't remember
there
> being any recall for that.
>
> My '98 4WD Cherokee had the original rotors replaced at about 15000 miles
due to
> warping. The replacement rotors lasted all the way up to about 50000
miles.
> At that time, they were replaced again due to the "rotor separation"
recall.
> The replacement rotors only lasted about 15000 miles -- like the
originals.
>
> I've now gone with after market el-cheapo rotors as replacements. So far
> they've made it past 10000 without warping. The nice part is that the
> ordinary cheap replacements on the 4WD Cherokee only cost about $20 and
are
> easy to replace. I'm not sure, but the 2WD Cherokee's rotors may include
> the wheel bearing surfaces, too. The 4WD uses a non-user-serviceable
bearing
> hub. Because the bearing is separate from the brake rotor, the rotors on
the
> 4WD Cherokee are simple and cheap to replace.
>
> > All
> > three cars are comparable (25K miles, 6 cyl., Auto tran., ~$11K), but
> > I have reservations in purchasing a vehicle I will have to replace
> > brakes/rotors so often for. Any insights and suggestions (via email
> > or post) would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Some folks have said that aftermarket cross drilled rotors last much
> longer. I'll probably try a set of those after I see how far the
> cheap ones go.
>
> Good luck.
>
> -John

DougW

Jim Hunter wrote:
> I have a 2001 Grand Cherokee which I bought used 1 year ago with 25k miles
> on the odometer. The first thing I did after purchasing was to take it my
> dealer and complain about brake pedal pulsing (a sign o warped rotors). The
> fix was new improved frt calipers, new rotors, new pads...all covered under
> warranty. I beleive the problem is NOT the rotors, but a design defect in
> the calipers. I have put 25k miles more miles on this new front brake setup,
> with NO brake rotor warping, no problems. Also, I suggest that you take the
> time to use a torque wrench to tighten each of the lug nuts to 85 lbs/in.
> That helps prevent warpage, I think.

85 is a bit low. spec should be 95-105. At any rate, trust the book.
What prevents warpage is having all the lugs properly torqued.

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DougW

Jerry Bransford

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
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> 85 is a bit low. spec should be 95-105. At any rate, trust the book.
> What prevents warpage is having all the lugs properly torqued.

85 ft-lbs. is what my MOPAR FSM says for the low-end of the allowable torque
range.

Jerry
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