Re: Re: ACCURATE SPEEDOMETER?
 

On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 11:44:39 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>Running in the higher gear is the bad thing, not running in the lower.
>Lugging is bad.

It is bad running in a lower gear ratio when effective drive ratio is
to tall because of axle ratio and tire size because your ego and
pocket book does not know what is correct.

>
>'You' engine has it's own 'sweet spot' of the rpm where it seems to run
>the best with the best response and best mileage. That is usually where
>it likes to sneak to when you are not paying attention.

Your sweet spot depends a lot on load and effective gear ratio in
vehicle and the demands placed on engine to move it at a certain RPM

>
>In 'my' engine's case this is 2300 rpm. Anything below 2000 on the
>highway starts the 'lugging' process and causes engine 'ping' or a
>rattling noise under load.

I see you are too cheap to use 89 octane or better fuel to which is no
surprize. None of my vehicle ever even think about pinging at any RPM
because I NEVER use 87 in any of them except a old 79 J20 with 8 to 1
compression that was made for 87.


>
>1750 or my OD (5th) at highway speeds is way too low for my setup.

And you lake the understanding and comittment to fix it properly
because your ego and pocket book holds you back.

BTW, if you want to restart this fued I will tear you a new one
because you provide a lot of times to do it. The choice is yours. Your
little more than a BSing troll with abig EGO problem.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Re: Re: ACCURATE SPEEDOMETER?
 

On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 11:44:39 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>Running in the higher gear is the bad thing, not running in the lower.
>Lugging is bad.

It is bad running in a lower gear ratio when effective drive ratio is
to tall because of axle ratio and tire size because your ego and
pocket book does not know what is correct.

>
>'You' engine has it's own 'sweet spot' of the rpm where it seems to run
>the best with the best response and best mileage. That is usually where
>it likes to sneak to when you are not paying attention.

Your sweet spot depends a lot on load and effective gear ratio in
vehicle and the demands placed on engine to move it at a certain RPM

>
>In 'my' engine's case this is 2300 rpm. Anything below 2000 on the
>highway starts the 'lugging' process and causes engine 'ping' or a
>rattling noise under load.

I see you are too cheap to use 89 octane or better fuel to which is no
surprize. None of my vehicle ever even think about pinging at any RPM
because I NEVER use 87 in any of them except a old 79 J20 with 8 to 1
compression that was made for 87.


>
>1750 or my OD (5th) at highway speeds is way too low for my setup.

And you lake the understanding and comittment to fix it properly
because your ego and pocket book holds you back.

BTW, if you want to restart this fued I will tear you a new one
because you provide a lot of times to do it. The choice is yours. Your
little more than a BSing troll with abig EGO problem.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Re: Re: ACCURATE SPEEDOMETER?
 

On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 11:44:39 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>Running in the higher gear is the bad thing, not running in the lower.
>Lugging is bad.

It is bad running in a lower gear ratio when effective drive ratio is
to tall because of axle ratio and tire size because your ego and
pocket book does not know what is correct.

>
>'You' engine has it's own 'sweet spot' of the rpm where it seems to run
>the best with the best response and best mileage. That is usually where
>it likes to sneak to when you are not paying attention.

Your sweet spot depends a lot on load and effective gear ratio in
vehicle and the demands placed on engine to move it at a certain RPM

>
>In 'my' engine's case this is 2300 rpm. Anything below 2000 on the
>highway starts the 'lugging' process and causes engine 'ping' or a
>rattling noise under load.

I see you are too cheap to use 89 octane or better fuel to which is no
surprize. None of my vehicle ever even think about pinging at any RPM
because I NEVER use 87 in any of them except a old 79 J20 with 8 to 1
compression that was made for 87.


>
>1750 or my OD (5th) at highway speeds is way too low for my setup.

And you lake the understanding and comittment to fix it properly
because your ego and pocket book holds you back.

BTW, if you want to restart this fued I will tear you a new one
because you provide a lot of times to do it. The choice is yours. Your
little more than a BSing troll with abig EGO problem.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Re: Re: ACCURATE SPEEDOMETER?
 

On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:52:55 -0500, c <c@me.org> wrote:

>Um, your statement is quite wrong. For instance, overdrive on my truck
>reduces the RPM by 30% so yeah I am pretty sure my engine will wear out
>sooner if I choose to never use it. I will agree with you on the lugging
>part, especially if it causes pinging, but no, I will not sit here and
>agree with you that my engine will last just as long turning 3000 RPM as
>it does turning 2100 RPM. That's insane.


Gee how did I put close to 200K and a few 4x4's 20 to 30 years ago
with 4.10 and 4.56 gears and no OD???? RPM as long as it is not
excessive (like 4000 to 5000 RPM cruises ) will not shorten life at
all. 2500 RPM or cruise for a V8 is childs play. How about a Toyota
that when 220K with a 3000 to 3500 RPM cruise and more and was using
a quart maybe every 3500 miles then. Also true RPM drop is determined
by OD ratio and to get a 30% drop you need a .7 (like on a 700R4 or
4L60 or .69 on a Ally 5 speed)
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Re: Re: ACCURATE SPEEDOMETER?
 

On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:52:55 -0500, c <c@me.org> wrote:

>Um, your statement is quite wrong. For instance, overdrive on my truck
>reduces the RPM by 30% so yeah I am pretty sure my engine will wear out
>sooner if I choose to never use it. I will agree with you on the lugging
>part, especially if it causes pinging, but no, I will not sit here and
>agree with you that my engine will last just as long turning 3000 RPM as
>it does turning 2100 RPM. That's insane.


Gee how did I put close to 200K and a few 4x4's 20 to 30 years ago
with 4.10 and 4.56 gears and no OD???? RPM as long as it is not
excessive (like 4000 to 5000 RPM cruises ) will not shorten life at
all. 2500 RPM or cruise for a V8 is childs play. How about a Toyota
that when 220K with a 3000 to 3500 RPM cruise and more and was using
a quart maybe every 3500 miles then. Also true RPM drop is determined
by OD ratio and to get a 30% drop you need a .7 (like on a 700R4 or
4L60 or .69 on a Ally 5 speed)
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Re: Re: ACCURATE SPEEDOMETER?
 

On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:52:55 -0500, c <c@me.org> wrote:

>Um, your statement is quite wrong. For instance, overdrive on my truck
>reduces the RPM by 30% so yeah I am pretty sure my engine will wear out
>sooner if I choose to never use it. I will agree with you on the lugging
>part, especially if it causes pinging, but no, I will not sit here and
>agree with you that my engine will last just as long turning 3000 RPM as
>it does turning 2100 RPM. That's insane.


Gee how did I put close to 200K and a few 4x4's 20 to 30 years ago
with 4.10 and 4.56 gears and no OD???? RPM as long as it is not
excessive (like 4000 to 5000 RPM cruises ) will not shorten life at
all. 2500 RPM or cruise for a V8 is childs play. How about a Toyota
that when 220K with a 3000 to 3500 RPM cruise and more and was using
a quart maybe every 3500 miles then. Also true RPM drop is determined
by OD ratio and to get a 30% drop you need a .7 (like on a 700R4 or
4L60 or .69 on a Ally 5 speed)
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Re: Re: ACCURATE SPEEDOMETER?
 

On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:52:55 -0500, c <c@me.org> wrote:

>Um, your statement is quite wrong. For instance, overdrive on my truck
>reduces the RPM by 30% so yeah I am pretty sure my engine will wear out
>sooner if I choose to never use it. I will agree with you on the lugging
>part, especially if it causes pinging, but no, I will not sit here and
>agree with you that my engine will last just as long turning 3000 RPM as
>it does turning 2100 RPM. That's insane.


Gee how did I put close to 200K and a few 4x4's 20 to 30 years ago
with 4.10 and 4.56 gears and no OD???? RPM as long as it is not
excessive (like 4000 to 5000 RPM cruises ) will not shorten life at
all. 2500 RPM or cruise for a V8 is childs play. How about a Toyota
that when 220K with a 3000 to 3500 RPM cruise and more and was using
a quart maybe every 3500 miles then. Also true RPM drop is determined
by OD ratio and to get a 30% drop you need a .7 (like on a 700R4 or
4L60 or .69 on a Ally 5 speed)
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Re: ACCURATE SPEEDOMETER?
 

SnoMan wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:52:55 -0500, c <c@me.org> wrote:
>
>> Um, your statement is quite wrong. For instance, overdrive on my truck
>> reduces the RPM by 30% so yeah I am pretty sure my engine will wear out
>> sooner if I choose to never use it. I will agree with you on the lugging
>> part, especially if it causes pinging, but no, I will not sit here and
>> agree with you that my engine will last just as long turning 3000 RPM as
>> it does turning 2100 RPM. That's insane.
>
>
> Gee how did I put close to 200K and a few 4x4's 20 to 30 years ago
> with 4.10 and 4.56 gears and no OD???? RPM as long as it is not
> excessive (like 4000 to 5000 RPM cruises ) will not shorten life at
> all. 2500 RPM or cruise for a V8 is childs play. How about a Toyota
> that when 220K with a 3000 to 3500 RPM cruise and more and was using
> a quart maybe every 3500 miles then. Also true RPM drop is determined
> by OD ratio and to get a 30% drop you need a .7 (like on a 700R4 or
> 4L60 or .69 on a Ally 5 speed)
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com

Well, it just so happens I HAVE a 700R4. Don't come off as the only
person that knows how to figure out gear ratio calculations. Geezus, I
think sometimes you argue just for the sake of arguing.

Chris

Re: ACCURATE SPEEDOMETER?
 

SnoMan wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:52:55 -0500, c <c@me.org> wrote:
>
>> Um, your statement is quite wrong. For instance, overdrive on my truck
>> reduces the RPM by 30% so yeah I am pretty sure my engine will wear out
>> sooner if I choose to never use it. I will agree with you on the lugging
>> part, especially if it causes pinging, but no, I will not sit here and
>> agree with you that my engine will last just as long turning 3000 RPM as
>> it does turning 2100 RPM. That's insane.
>
>
> Gee how did I put close to 200K and a few 4x4's 20 to 30 years ago
> with 4.10 and 4.56 gears and no OD???? RPM as long as it is not
> excessive (like 4000 to 5000 RPM cruises ) will not shorten life at
> all. 2500 RPM or cruise for a V8 is childs play. How about a Toyota
> that when 220K with a 3000 to 3500 RPM cruise and more and was using
> a quart maybe every 3500 miles then. Also true RPM drop is determined
> by OD ratio and to get a 30% drop you need a .7 (like on a 700R4 or
> 4L60 or .69 on a Ally 5 speed)
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com

Well, it just so happens I HAVE a 700R4. Don't come off as the only
person that knows how to figure out gear ratio calculations. Geezus, I
think sometimes you argue just for the sake of arguing.

Chris

Re: ACCURATE SPEEDOMETER?
 

SnoMan wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:52:55 -0500, c <c@me.org> wrote:
>
>> Um, your statement is quite wrong. For instance, overdrive on my truck
>> reduces the RPM by 30% so yeah I am pretty sure my engine will wear out
>> sooner if I choose to never use it. I will agree with you on the lugging
>> part, especially if it causes pinging, but no, I will not sit here and
>> agree with you that my engine will last just as long turning 3000 RPM as
>> it does turning 2100 RPM. That's insane.
>
>
> Gee how did I put close to 200K and a few 4x4's 20 to 30 years ago
> with 4.10 and 4.56 gears and no OD???? RPM as long as it is not
> excessive (like 4000 to 5000 RPM cruises ) will not shorten life at
> all. 2500 RPM or cruise for a V8 is childs play. How about a Toyota
> that when 220K with a 3000 to 3500 RPM cruise and more and was using
> a quart maybe every 3500 miles then. Also true RPM drop is determined
> by OD ratio and to get a 30% drop you need a .7 (like on a 700R4 or
> 4L60 or .69 on a Ally 5 speed)
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com

Well, it just so happens I HAVE a 700R4. Don't come off as the only
person that knows how to figure out gear ratio calculations. Geezus, I
think sometimes you argue just for the sake of arguing.

Chris