ABS disabled on XJ
02-04-2007, 11:12 PM
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Re: ABS disabled on XJ
I did....... with Valvoline's SynPower DOT4. It takes about a quart to
flush the old dirty stuff out. (the cost was $4.99 + tax)
"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Hi Earle,
> I wonder how many follow their maintenance guide and flush their brake
> fluid at sixty thousand: http://www.----------.com/WJLubeSchedule.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:--------------------
>
> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:45c5fc2c$0$21713$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>> Do you have any statistics or even anecdotal evidence to back that up, or
> is
>> it just something you pulled out of your butt and blind allegiance to
>> industry propaganda? I have driven a few hundred thousand trouble-free
> and
>> accident-free miles without ABS. If I could be even safer than I am now,
>> wow, that would be real safe.
>>
>> Ivan, plug in the fuse and see what happens. With a vehicle this old, it
>> wouldn't hurt to flush the brake fluid and do a visual inspection of
>> brake
>> lines, pads, shoes, sensors, sensor wires, etc. Maybe the previous owner
>> used the vehicle on gravel roads or did some off roading, and just forgot
> to
>> plug the fuse back in one time.
>>
>> Earle
>
>
flush the old dirty stuff out. (the cost was $4.99 + tax)
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> Hi Earle,
> I wonder how many follow their maintenance guide and flush their brake
> fluid at sixty thousand: http://www.----------.com/WJLubeSchedule.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:--------------------
>
> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:45c5fc2c$0$21713$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>> Do you have any statistics or even anecdotal evidence to back that up, or
> is
>> it just something you pulled out of your butt and blind allegiance to
>> industry propaganda? I have driven a few hundred thousand trouble-free
> and
>> accident-free miles without ABS. If I could be even safer than I am now,
>> wow, that would be real safe.
>>
>> Ivan, plug in the fuse and see what happens. With a vehicle this old, it
>> wouldn't hurt to flush the brake fluid and do a visual inspection of
>> brake
>> lines, pads, shoes, sensors, sensor wires, etc. Maybe the previous owner
>> used the vehicle on gravel roads or did some off roading, and just forgot
> to
>> plug the fuse back in one time.
>>
>> Earle
>
>
02-05-2007, 09:29 PM
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Re: ABS disabled on XJ
On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 17:28:44 -0500 (EST), Ivan Jager
<aij+nospam@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>In December, I bought a '98 XJ 4.0L. The guy who sold it to me said it has
>ABS, and the brake fluid reservoir looks like the ones in the Haynes
>manual for cars with ABS. The problem seems to be in the fusebox. It
>appears someone has taken out the fuse for ABS. Could I cause anything bad
>to happen by replacing the fuse? Is there any reason someone would have
>removed the fuse?
>
>On a somewhat related note, do I want ABS on a Jeep? I have plenty of
>experience driving without ABS, but only a few winters in cold weather.
>There hasn't been much snow in Pittsburgh this winter, but I got a few
>chances to test the Jeep on lightly packed or freshly fallen snow and it
>stops remarkably well. (At first I thought they had gotten rid of the
>pulsing feeling in ABS.) I suspect I do want ABS if only because it can
>handle cases where the traction is different on the right and left. But I
>thought it's worth asking.
>
>Thanks,
>Ivan
In my '01 WJ I often had a problem approaching an intersection under
moderate braking if there was a reasonably sharp bump in the road...
the live axle up front would momentarily go airborne and the ABS would
kick in... nearly slid through the intersection a number of times.
This happened from new so it wasn't old flabby shocks.
Personally, I would rather not have ABS but then I would also prefer a
standard transmission too.
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<aij+nospam@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>In December, I bought a '98 XJ 4.0L. The guy who sold it to me said it has
>ABS, and the brake fluid reservoir looks like the ones in the Haynes
>manual for cars with ABS. The problem seems to be in the fusebox. It
>appears someone has taken out the fuse for ABS. Could I cause anything bad
>to happen by replacing the fuse? Is there any reason someone would have
>removed the fuse?
>
>On a somewhat related note, do I want ABS on a Jeep? I have plenty of
>experience driving without ABS, but only a few winters in cold weather.
>There hasn't been much snow in Pittsburgh this winter, but I got a few
>chances to test the Jeep on lightly packed or freshly fallen snow and it
>stops remarkably well. (At first I thought they had gotten rid of the
>pulsing feeling in ABS.) I suspect I do want ABS if only because it can
>handle cases where the traction is different on the right and left. But I
>thought it's worth asking.
>
>Thanks,
>Ivan
In my '01 WJ I often had a problem approaching an intersection under
moderate braking if there was a reasonably sharp bump in the road...
the live axle up front would momentarily go airborne and the ABS would
kick in... nearly slid through the intersection a number of times.
This happened from new so it wasn't old flabby shocks.
Personally, I would rather not have ABS but then I would also prefer a
standard transmission too.
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02-05-2007, 09:29 PM
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Re: ABS disabled on XJ
On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 17:28:44 -0500 (EST), Ivan Jager
<aij+nospam@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>In December, I bought a '98 XJ 4.0L. The guy who sold it to me said it has
>ABS, and the brake fluid reservoir looks like the ones in the Haynes
>manual for cars with ABS. The problem seems to be in the fusebox. It
>appears someone has taken out the fuse for ABS. Could I cause anything bad
>to happen by replacing the fuse? Is there any reason someone would have
>removed the fuse?
>
>On a somewhat related note, do I want ABS on a Jeep? I have plenty of
>experience driving without ABS, but only a few winters in cold weather.
>There hasn't been much snow in Pittsburgh this winter, but I got a few
>chances to test the Jeep on lightly packed or freshly fallen snow and it
>stops remarkably well. (At first I thought they had gotten rid of the
>pulsing feeling in ABS.) I suspect I do want ABS if only because it can
>handle cases where the traction is different on the right and left. But I
>thought it's worth asking.
>
>Thanks,
>Ivan
In my '01 WJ I often had a problem approaching an intersection under
moderate braking if there was a reasonably sharp bump in the road...
the live axle up front would momentarily go airborne and the ABS would
kick in... nearly slid through the intersection a number of times.
This happened from new so it wasn't old flabby shocks.
Personally, I would rather not have ABS but then I would also prefer a
standard transmission too.
reboot
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<aij+nospam@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>In December, I bought a '98 XJ 4.0L. The guy who sold it to me said it has
>ABS, and the brake fluid reservoir looks like the ones in the Haynes
>manual for cars with ABS. The problem seems to be in the fusebox. It
>appears someone has taken out the fuse for ABS. Could I cause anything bad
>to happen by replacing the fuse? Is there any reason someone would have
>removed the fuse?
>
>On a somewhat related note, do I want ABS on a Jeep? I have plenty of
>experience driving without ABS, but only a few winters in cold weather.
>There hasn't been much snow in Pittsburgh this winter, but I got a few
>chances to test the Jeep on lightly packed or freshly fallen snow and it
>stops remarkably well. (At first I thought they had gotten rid of the
>pulsing feeling in ABS.) I suspect I do want ABS if only because it can
>handle cases where the traction is different on the right and left. But I
>thought it's worth asking.
>
>Thanks,
>Ivan
In my '01 WJ I often had a problem approaching an intersection under
moderate braking if there was a reasonably sharp bump in the road...
the live axle up front would momentarily go airborne and the ABS would
kick in... nearly slid through the intersection a number of times.
This happened from new so it wasn't old flabby shocks.
Personally, I would rather not have ABS but then I would also prefer a
standard transmission too.
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02-05-2007, 09:29 PM
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Re: ABS disabled on XJ
On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 17:28:44 -0500 (EST), Ivan Jager
<aij+nospam@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>In December, I bought a '98 XJ 4.0L. The guy who sold it to me said it has
>ABS, and the brake fluid reservoir looks like the ones in the Haynes
>manual for cars with ABS. The problem seems to be in the fusebox. It
>appears someone has taken out the fuse for ABS. Could I cause anything bad
>to happen by replacing the fuse? Is there any reason someone would have
>removed the fuse?
>
>On a somewhat related note, do I want ABS on a Jeep? I have plenty of
>experience driving without ABS, but only a few winters in cold weather.
>There hasn't been much snow in Pittsburgh this winter, but I got a few
>chances to test the Jeep on lightly packed or freshly fallen snow and it
>stops remarkably well. (At first I thought they had gotten rid of the
>pulsing feeling in ABS.) I suspect I do want ABS if only because it can
>handle cases where the traction is different on the right and left. But I
>thought it's worth asking.
>
>Thanks,
>Ivan
In my '01 WJ I often had a problem approaching an intersection under
moderate braking if there was a reasonably sharp bump in the road...
the live axle up front would momentarily go airborne and the ABS would
kick in... nearly slid through the intersection a number of times.
This happened from new so it wasn't old flabby shocks.
Personally, I would rather not have ABS but then I would also prefer a
standard transmission too.
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<aij+nospam@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>In December, I bought a '98 XJ 4.0L. The guy who sold it to me said it has
>ABS, and the brake fluid reservoir looks like the ones in the Haynes
>manual for cars with ABS. The problem seems to be in the fusebox. It
>appears someone has taken out the fuse for ABS. Could I cause anything bad
>to happen by replacing the fuse? Is there any reason someone would have
>removed the fuse?
>
>On a somewhat related note, do I want ABS on a Jeep? I have plenty of
>experience driving without ABS, but only a few winters in cold weather.
>There hasn't been much snow in Pittsburgh this winter, but I got a few
>chances to test the Jeep on lightly packed or freshly fallen snow and it
>stops remarkably well. (At first I thought they had gotten rid of the
>pulsing feeling in ABS.) I suspect I do want ABS if only because it can
>handle cases where the traction is different on the right and left. But I
>thought it's worth asking.
>
>Thanks,
>Ivan
In my '01 WJ I often had a problem approaching an intersection under
moderate braking if there was a reasonably sharp bump in the road...
the live axle up front would momentarily go airborne and the ABS would
kick in... nearly slid through the intersection a number of times.
This happened from new so it wasn't old flabby shocks.
Personally, I would rather not have ABS but then I would also prefer a
standard transmission too.
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02-05-2007, 09:29 PM
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Re: ABS disabled on XJ
On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 17:28:44 -0500 (EST), Ivan Jager
<aij+nospam@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>In December, I bought a '98 XJ 4.0L. The guy who sold it to me said it has
>ABS, and the brake fluid reservoir looks like the ones in the Haynes
>manual for cars with ABS. The problem seems to be in the fusebox. It
>appears someone has taken out the fuse for ABS. Could I cause anything bad
>to happen by replacing the fuse? Is there any reason someone would have
>removed the fuse?
>
>On a somewhat related note, do I want ABS on a Jeep? I have plenty of
>experience driving without ABS, but only a few winters in cold weather.
>There hasn't been much snow in Pittsburgh this winter, but I got a few
>chances to test the Jeep on lightly packed or freshly fallen snow and it
>stops remarkably well. (At first I thought they had gotten rid of the
>pulsing feeling in ABS.) I suspect I do want ABS if only because it can
>handle cases where the traction is different on the right and left. But I
>thought it's worth asking.
>
>Thanks,
>Ivan
In my '01 WJ I often had a problem approaching an intersection under
moderate braking if there was a reasonably sharp bump in the road...
the live axle up front would momentarily go airborne and the ABS would
kick in... nearly slid through the intersection a number of times.
This happened from new so it wasn't old flabby shocks.
Personally, I would rather not have ABS but then I would also prefer a
standard transmission too.
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<aij+nospam@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>In December, I bought a '98 XJ 4.0L. The guy who sold it to me said it has
>ABS, and the brake fluid reservoir looks like the ones in the Haynes
>manual for cars with ABS. The problem seems to be in the fusebox. It
>appears someone has taken out the fuse for ABS. Could I cause anything bad
>to happen by replacing the fuse? Is there any reason someone would have
>removed the fuse?
>
>On a somewhat related note, do I want ABS on a Jeep? I have plenty of
>experience driving without ABS, but only a few winters in cold weather.
>There hasn't been much snow in Pittsburgh this winter, but I got a few
>chances to test the Jeep on lightly packed or freshly fallen snow and it
>stops remarkably well. (At first I thought they had gotten rid of the
>pulsing feeling in ABS.) I suspect I do want ABS if only because it can
>handle cases where the traction is different on the right and left. But I
>thought it's worth asking.
>
>Thanks,
>Ivan
In my '01 WJ I often had a problem approaching an intersection under
moderate braking if there was a reasonably sharp bump in the road...
the live axle up front would momentarily go airborne and the ABS would
kick in... nearly slid through the intersection a number of times.
This happened from new so it wasn't old flabby shocks.
Personally, I would rather not have ABS but then I would also prefer a
standard transmission too.
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02-06-2007, 05:01 PM
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Re: ABS disabled on XJ
On Mon, 5 Feb 2007, reboot wrote:
> In my '01 WJ I often had a problem approaching an intersection under
> moderate braking if there was a reasonably sharp bump in the road...
> the live axle up front would momentarily go airborne and the ABS would
> kick in... nearly slid through the intersection a number of times.
> This happened from new so it wasn't old flabby shocks.
>
> Personally, I would rather not have ABS but then I would also prefer a
> standard transmission too.
As it turns out, I don't have ABS after all.
I did make sure to get a standard transmission. For a while I was worried
I might not be able to find one and was thinking about an automatic Grand
Cherokee. I didn't even ask to test drive it, because it really seemed
like the Grand Cherokee is a sort of luxury car designed so you could
claim it was an SUV. :P As it is, I ended up with enough fancy stuff like
power windows that freeze shut and cruise control. At least I don't need
to feel bad about getting it dirty. The extra leg room wouldn't have hurt
though. (I'm 6'5".)
Ivan
> In my '01 WJ I often had a problem approaching an intersection under
> moderate braking if there was a reasonably sharp bump in the road...
> the live axle up front would momentarily go airborne and the ABS would
> kick in... nearly slid through the intersection a number of times.
> This happened from new so it wasn't old flabby shocks.
>
> Personally, I would rather not have ABS but then I would also prefer a
> standard transmission too.
As it turns out, I don't have ABS after all.
I did make sure to get a standard transmission. For a while I was worried
I might not be able to find one and was thinking about an automatic Grand
Cherokee. I didn't even ask to test drive it, because it really seemed
like the Grand Cherokee is a sort of luxury car designed so you could
claim it was an SUV. :P As it is, I ended up with enough fancy stuff like
power windows that freeze shut and cruise control. At least I don't need
to feel bad about getting it dirty. The extra leg room wouldn't have hurt
though. (I'm 6'5".)
Ivan
02-06-2007, 05:01 PM
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Re: ABS disabled on XJ
On Mon, 5 Feb 2007, reboot wrote:
> In my '01 WJ I often had a problem approaching an intersection under
> moderate braking if there was a reasonably sharp bump in the road...
> the live axle up front would momentarily go airborne and the ABS would
> kick in... nearly slid through the intersection a number of times.
> This happened from new so it wasn't old flabby shocks.
>
> Personally, I would rather not have ABS but then I would also prefer a
> standard transmission too.
As it turns out, I don't have ABS after all.
I did make sure to get a standard transmission. For a while I was worried
I might not be able to find one and was thinking about an automatic Grand
Cherokee. I didn't even ask to test drive it, because it really seemed
like the Grand Cherokee is a sort of luxury car designed so you could
claim it was an SUV. :P As it is, I ended up with enough fancy stuff like
power windows that freeze shut and cruise control. At least I don't need
to feel bad about getting it dirty. The extra leg room wouldn't have hurt
though. (I'm 6'5".)
Ivan
> In my '01 WJ I often had a problem approaching an intersection under
> moderate braking if there was a reasonably sharp bump in the road...
> the live axle up front would momentarily go airborne and the ABS would
> kick in... nearly slid through the intersection a number of times.
> This happened from new so it wasn't old flabby shocks.
>
> Personally, I would rather not have ABS but then I would also prefer a
> standard transmission too.
As it turns out, I don't have ABS after all.
I did make sure to get a standard transmission. For a while I was worried
I might not be able to find one and was thinking about an automatic Grand
Cherokee. I didn't even ask to test drive it, because it really seemed
like the Grand Cherokee is a sort of luxury car designed so you could
claim it was an SUV. :P As it is, I ended up with enough fancy stuff like
power windows that freeze shut and cruise control. At least I don't need
to feel bad about getting it dirty. The extra leg room wouldn't have hurt
though. (I'm 6'5".)
Ivan
02-06-2007, 05:01 PM
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Re: ABS disabled on XJ
On Mon, 5 Feb 2007, reboot wrote:
> In my '01 WJ I often had a problem approaching an intersection under
> moderate braking if there was a reasonably sharp bump in the road...
> the live axle up front would momentarily go airborne and the ABS would
> kick in... nearly slid through the intersection a number of times.
> This happened from new so it wasn't old flabby shocks.
>
> Personally, I would rather not have ABS but then I would also prefer a
> standard transmission too.
As it turns out, I don't have ABS after all.
I did make sure to get a standard transmission. For a while I was worried
I might not be able to find one and was thinking about an automatic Grand
Cherokee. I didn't even ask to test drive it, because it really seemed
like the Grand Cherokee is a sort of luxury car designed so you could
claim it was an SUV. :P As it is, I ended up with enough fancy stuff like
power windows that freeze shut and cruise control. At least I don't need
to feel bad about getting it dirty. The extra leg room wouldn't have hurt
though. (I'm 6'5".)
Ivan
> In my '01 WJ I often had a problem approaching an intersection under
> moderate braking if there was a reasonably sharp bump in the road...
> the live axle up front would momentarily go airborne and the ABS would
> kick in... nearly slid through the intersection a number of times.
> This happened from new so it wasn't old flabby shocks.
>
> Personally, I would rather not have ABS but then I would also prefer a
> standard transmission too.
As it turns out, I don't have ABS after all.
I did make sure to get a standard transmission. For a while I was worried
I might not be able to find one and was thinking about an automatic Grand
Cherokee. I didn't even ask to test drive it, because it really seemed
like the Grand Cherokee is a sort of luxury car designed so you could
claim it was an SUV. :P As it is, I ended up with enough fancy stuff like
power windows that freeze shut and cruise control. At least I don't need
to feel bad about getting it dirty. The extra leg room wouldn't have hurt
though. (I'm 6'5".)
Ivan
02-06-2007, 05:01 PM
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Re: ABS disabled on XJ
On Mon, 5 Feb 2007, reboot wrote:
> In my '01 WJ I often had a problem approaching an intersection under
> moderate braking if there was a reasonably sharp bump in the road...
> the live axle up front would momentarily go airborne and the ABS would
> kick in... nearly slid through the intersection a number of times.
> This happened from new so it wasn't old flabby shocks.
>
> Personally, I would rather not have ABS but then I would also prefer a
> standard transmission too.
As it turns out, I don't have ABS after all.
I did make sure to get a standard transmission. For a while I was worried
I might not be able to find one and was thinking about an automatic Grand
Cherokee. I didn't even ask to test drive it, because it really seemed
like the Grand Cherokee is a sort of luxury car designed so you could
claim it was an SUV. :P As it is, I ended up with enough fancy stuff like
power windows that freeze shut and cruise control. At least I don't need
to feel bad about getting it dirty. The extra leg room wouldn't have hurt
though. (I'm 6'5".)
Ivan
> In my '01 WJ I often had a problem approaching an intersection under
> moderate braking if there was a reasonably sharp bump in the road...
> the live axle up front would momentarily go airborne and the ABS would
> kick in... nearly slid through the intersection a number of times.
> This happened from new so it wasn't old flabby shocks.
>
> Personally, I would rather not have ABS but then I would also prefer a
> standard transmission too.
As it turns out, I don't have ABS after all.
I did make sure to get a standard transmission. For a while I was worried
I might not be able to find one and was thinking about an automatic Grand
Cherokee. I didn't even ask to test drive it, because it really seemed
like the Grand Cherokee is a sort of luxury car designed so you could
claim it was an SUV. :P As it is, I ended up with enough fancy stuff like
power windows that freeze shut and cruise control. At least I don't need
to feel bad about getting it dirty. The extra leg room wouldn't have hurt
though. (I'm 6'5".)
Ivan
02-07-2007, 08:55 AM
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Re: ABS disabled on XJ
Congrats on choosing the XJ, they are far superior to the Grand! One
thing to REALLY pay attention to is the the "DOOR HINGES". If you do
NOT keep them well lubed, they will sieze and rip loose from the
body. NOT a good thing and a pain to get repaired correctly. I
prefer the original "Liquid Wrench" which has some actual oil in it
(unlike WD-40 which is useless) along with some additives, it
penetrates the joint and seems to stay awhile. I lube mine every 3
months and they are tight as when new!
Bruce