Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

Bullcrap. First most folks don't know how to use ABS, and the result is
that vehicle with ABS, due to driver stupidity, have a slightly worse
accident rate than vehicles without it. A small contribution to that
statistic is drivers who believe ABS overrules the laws of physics and
think ABS will stop you instantly. [Both of these are easily
researched at dot and sae]

Second, on some surfaces ABS cannot stop as fast as wedging without ABS.
Those surfaces are where jeeps tend to go.


philthy proclaimed:

> a vehicle with working abs is far safer to drive than one without
>
> Ivan Jager wrote:
>
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>In December, I bought a '98 XJ 4.0L. The guy who sold it to me said it has
>>ABS, and the brake fluid reservoir looks like the ones in the Haynes
>>manual for cars with ABS. The problem seems to be in the fusebox. It
>>appears someone has taken out the fuse for ABS. Could I cause anything bad
>>to happen by replacing the fuse? Is there any reason someone would have
>>removed the fuse?
>>
>>On a somewhat related note, do I want ABS on a Jeep? I have plenty of
>>experience driving without ABS, but only a few winters in cold weather.
>>There hasn't been much snow in Pittsburgh this winter, but I got a few
>>chances to test the Jeep on lightly packed or freshly fallen snow and it
>>stops remarkably well. (At first I thought they had gotten rid of the
>>pulsing feeling in ABS.) I suspect I do want ABS if only because it can
>>handle cases where the traction is different on the right and left. But I
>>thought it's worth asking.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Ivan
>
>

Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

Lon wrote:
> Bullcrap. First most folks don't know how to use ABS, and the result
> is that vehicle with ABS, due to driver stupidity, have a slightly
> worse accident rate than vehicles without it. A small contribution
> to that statistic is drivers who believe ABS overrules the laws of
> physics and think ABS will stop you instantly. [Both of these are
> easily researched at dot and sae]
>
> Second, on some surfaces ABS cannot stop as fast as wedging without
> ABS. Those surfaces are where jeeps tend to go.

ABS can also cause a "run away" situation on downhill. Nearly bit it
on a steep downhill dirt trail when the brakes refused to brake. After
that experience I always take the fuse out. Eventually I want to put
in a bypass switch inside the cab. Now ABS is great on ice and on
wet pavement. Providing you know it's so you can steer around the
problem.

--
DougW

Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

Lon wrote:
> Bullcrap. First most folks don't know how to use ABS, and the result
> is that vehicle with ABS, due to driver stupidity, have a slightly
> worse accident rate than vehicles without it. A small contribution
> to that statistic is drivers who believe ABS overrules the laws of
> physics and think ABS will stop you instantly. [Both of these are
> easily researched at dot and sae]
>
> Second, on some surfaces ABS cannot stop as fast as wedging without
> ABS. Those surfaces are where jeeps tend to go.

ABS can also cause a "run away" situation on downhill. Nearly bit it
on a steep downhill dirt trail when the brakes refused to brake. After
that experience I always take the fuse out. Eventually I want to put
in a bypass switch inside the cab. Now ABS is great on ice and on
wet pavement. Providing you know it's so you can steer around the
problem.

--
DougW

Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

Lon wrote:
> Bullcrap. First most folks don't know how to use ABS, and the result
> is that vehicle with ABS, due to driver stupidity, have a slightly
> worse accident rate than vehicles without it. A small contribution
> to that statistic is drivers who believe ABS overrules the laws of
> physics and think ABS will stop you instantly. [Both of these are
> easily researched at dot and sae]
>
> Second, on some surfaces ABS cannot stop as fast as wedging without
> ABS. Those surfaces are where jeeps tend to go.

ABS can also cause a "run away" situation on downhill. Nearly bit it
on a steep downhill dirt trail when the brakes refused to brake. After
that experience I always take the fuse out. Eventually I want to put
in a bypass switch inside the cab. Now ABS is great on ice and on
wet pavement. Providing you know it's so you can steer around the
problem.

--
DougW

Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

Lon wrote:
> Bullcrap. First most folks don't know how to use ABS, and the result
> is that vehicle with ABS, due to driver stupidity, have a slightly
> worse accident rate than vehicles without it. A small contribution
> to that statistic is drivers who believe ABS overrules the laws of
> physics and think ABS will stop you instantly. [Both of these are
> easily researched at dot and sae]
>
> Second, on some surfaces ABS cannot stop as fast as wedging without
> ABS. Those surfaces are where jeeps tend to go.

ABS can also cause a "run away" situation on downhill. Nearly bit it
on a steep downhill dirt trail when the brakes refused to brake. After
that experience I always take the fuse out. Eventually I want to put
in a bypass switch inside the cab. Now ABS is great on ice and on
wet pavement. Providing you know it's so you can steer around the
problem.

--
DougW

Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

Hi Earle,
I wonder how many follow their maintenance guide and flush their brake
fluid at sixty thousand: http://www.----------.com/WJLubeSchedule.jpg
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mailto:--------------------

"Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
news:45c5fc2c$0$21713$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> Do you have any statistics or even anecdotal evidence to back that up, or
is
> it just something you pulled out of your butt and blind allegiance to
> industry propaganda? I have driven a few hundred thousand trouble-free
and
> accident-free miles without ABS. If I could be even safer than I am now,
> wow, that would be real safe.
>
> Ivan, plug in the fuse and see what happens. With a vehicle this old, it
> wouldn't hurt to flush the brake fluid and do a visual inspection of brake
> lines, pads, shoes, sensors, sensor wires, etc. Maybe the previous owner
> used the vehicle on gravel roads or did some off roading, and just forgot
to
> plug the fuse back in one time.
>
> Earle

Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

Hi Earle,
I wonder how many follow their maintenance guide and flush their brake
fluid at sixty thousand: http://www.----------.com/WJLubeSchedule.jpg
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:--------------------

"Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
news:45c5fc2c$0$21713$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> Do you have any statistics or even anecdotal evidence to back that up, or
is
> it just something you pulled out of your butt and blind allegiance to
> industry propaganda? I have driven a few hundred thousand trouble-free
and
> accident-free miles without ABS. If I could be even safer than I am now,
> wow, that would be real safe.
>
> Ivan, plug in the fuse and see what happens. With a vehicle this old, it
> wouldn't hurt to flush the brake fluid and do a visual inspection of brake
> lines, pads, shoes, sensors, sensor wires, etc. Maybe the previous owner
> used the vehicle on gravel roads or did some off roading, and just forgot
to
> plug the fuse back in one time.
>
> Earle

Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

Hi Earle,
I wonder how many follow their maintenance guide and flush their brake
fluid at sixty thousand: http://www.----------.com/WJLubeSchedule.jpg
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:--------------------

"Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
news:45c5fc2c$0$21713$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> Do you have any statistics or even anecdotal evidence to back that up, or
is
> it just something you pulled out of your butt and blind allegiance to
> industry propaganda? I have driven a few hundred thousand trouble-free
and
> accident-free miles without ABS. If I could be even safer than I am now,
> wow, that would be real safe.
>
> Ivan, plug in the fuse and see what happens. With a vehicle this old, it
> wouldn't hurt to flush the brake fluid and do a visual inspection of brake
> lines, pads, shoes, sensors, sensor wires, etc. Maybe the previous owner
> used the vehicle on gravel roads or did some off roading, and just forgot
to
> plug the fuse back in one time.
>
> Earle

Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

Hi Earle,
I wonder how many follow their maintenance guide and flush their brake
fluid at sixty thousand: http://www.----------.com/WJLubeSchedule.jpg
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:--------------------

"Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
news:45c5fc2c$0$21713$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> Do you have any statistics or even anecdotal evidence to back that up, or
is
> it just something you pulled out of your butt and blind allegiance to
> industry propaganda? I have driven a few hundred thousand trouble-free
and
> accident-free miles without ABS. If I could be even safer than I am now,
> wow, that would be real safe.
>
> Ivan, plug in the fuse and see what happens. With a vehicle this old, it
> wouldn't hurt to flush the brake fluid and do a visual inspection of brake
> lines, pads, shoes, sensors, sensor wires, etc. Maybe the previous owner
> used the vehicle on gravel roads or did some off roading, and just forgot
to
> plug the fuse back in one time.
>
> Earle

Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

If you don't have to stop for stop signs in the snow:
http://www.4x4abc.com/4WD101/ABS_offroad.html
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"philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
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> a vehicle with working abs is far safer to drive than one without

Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

If you don't have to stop for stop signs in the snow:
http://www.4x4abc.com/4WD101/ABS_offroad.html
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mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
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> a vehicle with working abs is far safer to drive than one without

Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

If you don't have to stop for stop signs in the snow:
http://www.4x4abc.com/4WD101/ABS_offroad.html
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
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> a vehicle with working abs is far safer to drive than one without

Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

If you don't have to stop for stop signs in the snow:
http://www.4x4abc.com/4WD101/ABS_offroad.html
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"philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
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> a vehicle with working abs is far safer to drive than one without

Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

Ditto.
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"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:jttxh.74424$oA1.61366@newsfe19.lga...
>
> ABS can also cause a "run away" situation on downhill. Nearly bit it
> on a steep downhill dirt trail when the brakes refused to brake. After
> that experience I always take the fuse out. Eventually I want to put
> in a bypass switch inside the cab. Now ABS is great on ice and on
> wet pavement. Providing you know it's so you can steer around the
> problem.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>

Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

Ditto.
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"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:jttxh.74424$oA1.61366@newsfe19.lga...
>
> ABS can also cause a "run away" situation on downhill. Nearly bit it
> on a steep downhill dirt trail when the brakes refused to brake. After
> that experience I always take the fuse out. Eventually I want to put
> in a bypass switch inside the cab. Now ABS is great on ice and on
> wet pavement. Providing you know it's so you can steer around the
> problem.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>

Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

Ditto.
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mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:jttxh.74424$oA1.61366@newsfe19.lga...
>
> ABS can also cause a "run away" situation on downhill. Nearly bit it
> on a steep downhill dirt trail when the brakes refused to brake. After
> that experience I always take the fuse out. Eventually I want to put
> in a bypass switch inside the cab. Now ABS is great on ice and on
> wet pavement. Providing you know it's so you can steer around the
> problem.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>

Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

Ditto.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:jttxh.74424$oA1.61366@newsfe19.lga...
>
> ABS can also cause a "run away" situation on downhill. Nearly bit it
> on a steep downhill dirt trail when the brakes refused to brake. After
> that experience I always take the fuse out. Eventually I want to put
> in a bypass switch inside the cab. Now ABS is great on ice and on
> wet pavement. Providing you know it's so you can steer around the
> problem.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>

Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

I did....... with Valvoline's SynPower DOT4. It takes about a quart to
flush the old dirty stuff out. (the cost was $4.99 + tax)


"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
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> Hi Earle,
> I wonder how many follow their maintenance guide and flush their brake
> fluid at sixty thousand: http://www.----------.com/WJLubeSchedule.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:--------------------
>
> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:45c5fc2c$0$21713$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>> Do you have any statistics or even anecdotal evidence to back that up, or
> is
>> it just something you pulled out of your butt and blind allegiance to
>> industry propaganda? I have driven a few hundred thousand trouble-free
> and
>> accident-free miles without ABS. If I could be even safer than I am now,
>> wow, that would be real safe.
>>
>> Ivan, plug in the fuse and see what happens. With a vehicle this old, it
>> wouldn't hurt to flush the brake fluid and do a visual inspection of
>> brake
>> lines, pads, shoes, sensors, sensor wires, etc. Maybe the previous owner
>> used the vehicle on gravel roads or did some off roading, and just forgot
> to
>> plug the fuse back in one time.
>>
>> Earle
>
>

Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

I did....... with Valvoline's SynPower DOT4. It takes about a quart to
flush the old dirty stuff out. (the cost was $4.99 + tax)


"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:52nmi8F1p1b7qU1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi Earle,
> I wonder how many follow their maintenance guide and flush their brake
> fluid at sixty thousand: http://www.----------.com/WJLubeSchedule.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:--------------------
>
> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:45c5fc2c$0$21713$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>> Do you have any statistics or even anecdotal evidence to back that up, or
> is
>> it just something you pulled out of your butt and blind allegiance to
>> industry propaganda? I have driven a few hundred thousand trouble-free
> and
>> accident-free miles without ABS. If I could be even safer than I am now,
>> wow, that would be real safe.
>>
>> Ivan, plug in the fuse and see what happens. With a vehicle this old, it
>> wouldn't hurt to flush the brake fluid and do a visual inspection of
>> brake
>> lines, pads, shoes, sensors, sensor wires, etc. Maybe the previous owner
>> used the vehicle on gravel roads or did some off roading, and just forgot
> to
>> plug the fuse back in one time.
>>
>> Earle
>
>

Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

I did....... with Valvoline's SynPower DOT4. It takes about a quart to
flush the old dirty stuff out. (the cost was $4.99 + tax)


"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:52nmi8F1p1b7qU1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi Earle,
> I wonder how many follow their maintenance guide and flush their brake
> fluid at sixty thousand: http://www.----------.com/WJLubeSchedule.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:--------------------
>
> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:45c5fc2c$0$21713$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>> Do you have any statistics or even anecdotal evidence to back that up, or
> is
>> it just something you pulled out of your butt and blind allegiance to
>> industry propaganda? I have driven a few hundred thousand trouble-free
> and
>> accident-free miles without ABS. If I could be even safer than I am now,
>> wow, that would be real safe.
>>
>> Ivan, plug in the fuse and see what happens. With a vehicle this old, it
>> wouldn't hurt to flush the brake fluid and do a visual inspection of
>> brake
>> lines, pads, shoes, sensors, sensor wires, etc. Maybe the previous owner
>> used the vehicle on gravel roads or did some off roading, and just forgot
> to
>> plug the fuse back in one time.
>>
>> Earle
>
>

Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

I did....... with Valvoline's SynPower DOT4. It takes about a quart to
flush the old dirty stuff out. (the cost was $4.99 + tax)


"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:52nmi8F1p1b7qU1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi Earle,
> I wonder how many follow their maintenance guide and flush their brake
> fluid at sixty thousand: http://www.----------.com/WJLubeSchedule.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:--------------------
>
> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:45c5fc2c$0$21713$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>> Do you have any statistics or even anecdotal evidence to back that up, or
> is
>> it just something you pulled out of your butt and blind allegiance to
>> industry propaganda? I have driven a few hundred thousand trouble-free
> and
>> accident-free miles without ABS. If I could be even safer than I am now,
>> wow, that would be real safe.
>>
>> Ivan, plug in the fuse and see what happens. With a vehicle this old, it
>> wouldn't hurt to flush the brake fluid and do a visual inspection of
>> brake
>> lines, pads, shoes, sensors, sensor wires, etc. Maybe the previous owner
>> used the vehicle on gravel roads or did some off roading, and just forgot
> to
>> plug the fuse back in one time.
>>
>> Earle
>
>

Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 17:28:44 -0500 (EST), Ivan Jager
<aij+nospam@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>In December, I bought a '98 XJ 4.0L. The guy who sold it to me said it has
>ABS, and the brake fluid reservoir looks like the ones in the Haynes
>manual for cars with ABS. The problem seems to be in the fusebox. It
>appears someone has taken out the fuse for ABS. Could I cause anything bad
>to happen by replacing the fuse? Is there any reason someone would have
>removed the fuse?
>
>On a somewhat related note, do I want ABS on a Jeep? I have plenty of
>experience driving without ABS, but only a few winters in cold weather.
>There hasn't been much snow in Pittsburgh this winter, but I got a few
>chances to test the Jeep on lightly packed or freshly fallen snow and it
>stops remarkably well. (At first I thought they had gotten rid of the
>pulsing feeling in ABS.) I suspect I do want ABS if only because it can
>handle cases where the traction is different on the right and left. But I
>thought it's worth asking.
>
>Thanks,
>Ivan

In my '01 WJ I often had a problem approaching an intersection under
moderate braking if there was a reasonably sharp bump in the road...
the live axle up front would momentarily go airborne and the ABS would
kick in... nearly slid through the intersection a number of times.
This happened from new so it wasn't old flabby shocks.

Personally, I would rather not have ABS but then I would also prefer a
standard transmission too.

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Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 17:28:44 -0500 (EST), Ivan Jager
<aij+nospam@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>In December, I bought a '98 XJ 4.0L. The guy who sold it to me said it has
>ABS, and the brake fluid reservoir looks like the ones in the Haynes
>manual for cars with ABS. The problem seems to be in the fusebox. It
>appears someone has taken out the fuse for ABS. Could I cause anything bad
>to happen by replacing the fuse? Is there any reason someone would have
>removed the fuse?
>
>On a somewhat related note, do I want ABS on a Jeep? I have plenty of
>experience driving without ABS, but only a few winters in cold weather.
>There hasn't been much snow in Pittsburgh this winter, but I got a few
>chances to test the Jeep on lightly packed or freshly fallen snow and it
>stops remarkably well. (At first I thought they had gotten rid of the
>pulsing feeling in ABS.) I suspect I do want ABS if only because it can
>handle cases where the traction is different on the right and left. But I
>thought it's worth asking.
>
>Thanks,
>Ivan

In my '01 WJ I often had a problem approaching an intersection under
moderate braking if there was a reasonably sharp bump in the road...
the live axle up front would momentarily go airborne and the ABS would
kick in... nearly slid through the intersection a number of times.
This happened from new so it wasn't old flabby shocks.

Personally, I would rather not have ABS but then I would also prefer a
standard transmission too.

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Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 17:28:44 -0500 (EST), Ivan Jager
<aij+nospam@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>In December, I bought a '98 XJ 4.0L. The guy who sold it to me said it has
>ABS, and the brake fluid reservoir looks like the ones in the Haynes
>manual for cars with ABS. The problem seems to be in the fusebox. It
>appears someone has taken out the fuse for ABS. Could I cause anything bad
>to happen by replacing the fuse? Is there any reason someone would have
>removed the fuse?
>
>On a somewhat related note, do I want ABS on a Jeep? I have plenty of
>experience driving without ABS, but only a few winters in cold weather.
>There hasn't been much snow in Pittsburgh this winter, but I got a few
>chances to test the Jeep on lightly packed or freshly fallen snow and it
>stops remarkably well. (At first I thought they had gotten rid of the
>pulsing feeling in ABS.) I suspect I do want ABS if only because it can
>handle cases where the traction is different on the right and left. But I
>thought it's worth asking.
>
>Thanks,
>Ivan

In my '01 WJ I often had a problem approaching an intersection under
moderate braking if there was a reasonably sharp bump in the road...
the live axle up front would momentarily go airborne and the ABS would
kick in... nearly slid through the intersection a number of times.
This happened from new so it wasn't old flabby shocks.

Personally, I would rather not have ABS but then I would also prefer a
standard transmission too.

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Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 17:28:44 -0500 (EST), Ivan Jager
<aij+nospam@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>In December, I bought a '98 XJ 4.0L. The guy who sold it to me said it has
>ABS, and the brake fluid reservoir looks like the ones in the Haynes
>manual for cars with ABS. The problem seems to be in the fusebox. It
>appears someone has taken out the fuse for ABS. Could I cause anything bad
>to happen by replacing the fuse? Is there any reason someone would have
>removed the fuse?
>
>On a somewhat related note, do I want ABS on a Jeep? I have plenty of
>experience driving without ABS, but only a few winters in cold weather.
>There hasn't been much snow in Pittsburgh this winter, but I got a few
>chances to test the Jeep on lightly packed or freshly fallen snow and it
>stops remarkably well. (At first I thought they had gotten rid of the
>pulsing feeling in ABS.) I suspect I do want ABS if only because it can
>handle cases where the traction is different on the right and left. But I
>thought it's worth asking.
>
>Thanks,
>Ivan

In my '01 WJ I often had a problem approaching an intersection under
moderate braking if there was a reasonably sharp bump in the road...
the live axle up front would momentarily go airborne and the ABS would
kick in... nearly slid through the intersection a number of times.
This happened from new so it wasn't old flabby shocks.

Personally, I would rather not have ABS but then I would also prefer a
standard transmission too.

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Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

On Mon, 5 Feb 2007, reboot wrote:
> In my '01 WJ I often had a problem approaching an intersection under
> moderate braking if there was a reasonably sharp bump in the road...
> the live axle up front would momentarily go airborne and the ABS would
> kick in... nearly slid through the intersection a number of times.
> This happened from new so it wasn't old flabby shocks.
>
> Personally, I would rather not have ABS but then I would also prefer a
> standard transmission too.

As it turns out, I don't have ABS after all.

I did make sure to get a standard transmission. For a while I was worried
I might not be able to find one and was thinking about an automatic Grand
Cherokee. I didn't even ask to test drive it, because it really seemed
like the Grand Cherokee is a sort of luxury car designed so you could
claim it was an SUV. :P As it is, I ended up with enough fancy stuff like
power windows that freeze shut and cruise control. At least I don't need
to feel bad about getting it dirty. The extra leg room wouldn't have hurt
though. (I'm 6'5".)

Ivan

Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

On Mon, 5 Feb 2007, reboot wrote:
> In my '01 WJ I often had a problem approaching an intersection under
> moderate braking if there was a reasonably sharp bump in the road...
> the live axle up front would momentarily go airborne and the ABS would
> kick in... nearly slid through the intersection a number of times.
> This happened from new so it wasn't old flabby shocks.
>
> Personally, I would rather not have ABS but then I would also prefer a
> standard transmission too.

As it turns out, I don't have ABS after all.

I did make sure to get a standard transmission. For a while I was worried
I might not be able to find one and was thinking about an automatic Grand
Cherokee. I didn't even ask to test drive it, because it really seemed
like the Grand Cherokee is a sort of luxury car designed so you could
claim it was an SUV. :P As it is, I ended up with enough fancy stuff like
power windows that freeze shut and cruise control. At least I don't need
to feel bad about getting it dirty. The extra leg room wouldn't have hurt
though. (I'm 6'5".)

Ivan

Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

On Mon, 5 Feb 2007, reboot wrote:
> In my '01 WJ I often had a problem approaching an intersection under
> moderate braking if there was a reasonably sharp bump in the road...
> the live axle up front would momentarily go airborne and the ABS would
> kick in... nearly slid through the intersection a number of times.
> This happened from new so it wasn't old flabby shocks.
>
> Personally, I would rather not have ABS but then I would also prefer a
> standard transmission too.

As it turns out, I don't have ABS after all.

I did make sure to get a standard transmission. For a while I was worried
I might not be able to find one and was thinking about an automatic Grand
Cherokee. I didn't even ask to test drive it, because it really seemed
like the Grand Cherokee is a sort of luxury car designed so you could
claim it was an SUV. :P As it is, I ended up with enough fancy stuff like
power windows that freeze shut and cruise control. At least I don't need
to feel bad about getting it dirty. The extra leg room wouldn't have hurt
though. (I'm 6'5".)

Ivan

Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

On Mon, 5 Feb 2007, reboot wrote:
> In my '01 WJ I often had a problem approaching an intersection under
> moderate braking if there was a reasonably sharp bump in the road...
> the live axle up front would momentarily go airborne and the ABS would
> kick in... nearly slid through the intersection a number of times.
> This happened from new so it wasn't old flabby shocks.
>
> Personally, I would rather not have ABS but then I would also prefer a
> standard transmission too.

As it turns out, I don't have ABS after all.

I did make sure to get a standard transmission. For a while I was worried
I might not be able to find one and was thinking about an automatic Grand
Cherokee. I didn't even ask to test drive it, because it really seemed
like the Grand Cherokee is a sort of luxury car designed so you could
claim it was an SUV. :P As it is, I ended up with enough fancy stuff like
power windows that freeze shut and cruise control. At least I don't need
to feel bad about getting it dirty. The extra leg room wouldn't have hurt
though. (I'm 6'5".)

Ivan

Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

Congrats on choosing the XJ, they are far superior to the Grand! One
thing to REALLY pay attention to is the the "DOOR HINGES". If you do
NOT keep them well lubed, they will sieze and rip loose from the
body. NOT a good thing and a pain to get repaired correctly. I
prefer the original "Liquid Wrench" which has some actual oil in it
(unlike WD-40 which is useless) along with some additives, it
penetrates the joint and seems to stay awhile. I lube mine every 3
months and they are tight as when new!

Bruce

Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

Congrats on choosing the XJ, they are far superior to the Grand! One
thing to REALLY pay attention to is the the "DOOR HINGES". If you do
NOT keep them well lubed, they will sieze and rip loose from the
body. NOT a good thing and a pain to get repaired correctly. I
prefer the original "Liquid Wrench" which has some actual oil in it
(unlike WD-40 which is useless) along with some additives, it
penetrates the joint and seems to stay awhile. I lube mine every 3
months and they are tight as when new!

Bruce

Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

Congrats on choosing the XJ, they are far superior to the Grand! One
thing to REALLY pay attention to is the the "DOOR HINGES". If you do
NOT keep them well lubed, they will sieze and rip loose from the
body. NOT a good thing and a pain to get repaired correctly. I
prefer the original "Liquid Wrench" which has some actual oil in it
(unlike WD-40 which is useless) along with some additives, it
penetrates the joint and seems to stay awhile. I lube mine every 3
months and they are tight as when new!

Bruce

Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

Congrats on choosing the XJ, they are far superior to the Grand! One
thing to REALLY pay attention to is the the "DOOR HINGES". If you do
NOT keep them well lubed, they will sieze and rip loose from the
body. NOT a good thing and a pain to get repaired correctly. I
prefer the original "Liquid Wrench" which has some actual oil in it
(unlike WD-40 which is useless) along with some additives, it
penetrates the joint and seems to stay awhile. I lube mine every 3
months and they are tight as when new!

Bruce