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Generic 09-22-2004 12:07 AM

Re: 98 TJ brakes - rotors & pads
 

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41508499.994C741E@cox.net...
> "Cryogenics we utilize a proprietary 60 hour freezing process"
> "although we try to ship on the same day."
> I think this is bullsh*t, any molecular changes would be set at
> molten heat while being cast or forged.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>


Nope. The benefits of cryo treatment can be seen *easily* on something like
a trombone slide. It depends on the stresses introduced during the heat
treatment, metal forming and/or machining because it can have zero effect
too.

Is it worthwhile? In most applications probably not.

-John



Generic 09-22-2004 12:07 AM

Re: 98 TJ brakes - rotors & pads
 

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41508499.994C741E@cox.net...
> "Cryogenics we utilize a proprietary 60 hour freezing process"
> "although we try to ship on the same day."
> I think this is bullsh*t, any molecular changes would be set at
> molten heat while being cast or forged.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>


Nope. The benefits of cryo treatment can be seen *easily* on something like
a trombone slide. It depends on the stresses introduced during the heat
treatment, metal forming and/or machining because it can have zero effect
too.

Is it worthwhile? In most applications probably not.

-John



Handywired 09-22-2004 04:08 AM

Re: 98 TJ brakes - rotors & pads
 
>Hi John,
> You wrote the brakes were squealing, you didn't write they were
>pulsating. Like you just need to replace the cheap pads that are on it


He probably meant REALLY squeeling, like metal-on-metal...

-jeff

Handywired 09-22-2004 04:08 AM

Re: 98 TJ brakes - rotors & pads
 
>Hi John,
> You wrote the brakes were squealing, you didn't write they were
>pulsating. Like you just need to replace the cheap pads that are on it


He probably meant REALLY squeeling, like metal-on-metal...

-jeff

Handywired 09-22-2004 04:08 AM

Re: 98 TJ brakes - rotors & pads
 
>Hi John,
> You wrote the brakes were squealing, you didn't write they were
>pulsating. Like you just need to replace the cheap pads that are on it


He probably meant REALLY squeeling, like metal-on-metal...

-jeff

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-22-2004 02:24 PM

Re: 98 TJ brakes - rotors & pads
 
Metal to metal can not produce a high pitch sound like a squeal.
Some describe it as sandpaper, but I wouldn't, it sounds exactly like
it's set up on a drum lath.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Handywired wrote:
>
> He probably meant REALLY squeeling, like metal-on-metal...
>
> -jeff


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-22-2004 02:24 PM

Re: 98 TJ brakes - rotors & pads
 
Metal to metal can not produce a high pitch sound like a squeal.
Some describe it as sandpaper, but I wouldn't, it sounds exactly like
it's set up on a drum lath.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Handywired wrote:
>
> He probably meant REALLY squeeling, like metal-on-metal...
>
> -jeff


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-22-2004 02:24 PM

Re: 98 TJ brakes - rotors & pads
 
Metal to metal can not produce a high pitch sound like a squeal.
Some describe it as sandpaper, but I wouldn't, it sounds exactly like
it's set up on a drum lath.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Handywired wrote:
>
> He probably meant REALLY squeeling, like metal-on-metal...
>
> -jeff


mic canic 09-23-2004 08:58 PM

Re: 98 TJ brakes - rotors & pads
 
jeep sells a value pack now pads and rotors are 150.00
and composit rotors can be cut but at a real slow rpm

John Campbell wrote:

> I should have known better. I took my TJ into a brake shop, as I've
> been getting squealing. I was thinking they would turn the rotors,
> put on new brake pads, and I'd be out of there for $150 or so. Nope -
> got a call and a quote for $611. This was because they "couldn't turn
> composite rotors". I must have looked like I was stupid when I
> dropped it off.
>
> So - my question. I've been doing some research, and I'm ready to
> tackle this myself, but I was wondering if anyone has replaced the TJ
> OEM rotors with cast rotors, and if it helped minimize the warping?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> John



mic canic 09-23-2004 08:58 PM

Re: 98 TJ brakes - rotors & pads
 
jeep sells a value pack now pads and rotors are 150.00
and composit rotors can be cut but at a real slow rpm

John Campbell wrote:

> I should have known better. I took my TJ into a brake shop, as I've
> been getting squealing. I was thinking they would turn the rotors,
> put on new brake pads, and I'd be out of there for $150 or so. Nope -
> got a call and a quote for $611. This was because they "couldn't turn
> composite rotors". I must have looked like I was stupid when I
> dropped it off.
>
> So - my question. I've been doing some research, and I'm ready to
> tackle this myself, but I was wondering if anyone has replaced the TJ
> OEM rotors with cast rotors, and if it helped minimize the warping?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> John




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