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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-21-2004 07:42 PM

Re: 98 TJ brakes - rotors & pads
 
Hi Doug,
Interesting study at:
http://www.bso.uiuc.edu/~chillar/Cry...ntofMetals.pdf Tests
showed cryogenically treated of cast Iron load capacity got poorer by
23.1%, but increased the abrasion resistance of that specimen by 35.7%
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DougW wrote:
>
> Jerry Bransford did pass the time by typing:
> > Whether or not you think anything is BS is unimportant Bill since you think
> > most things you don't understand are BS. Cyrogenically treated parts do
> > indeed change their metalurgy and do pick up tensile strength and hardness
> > in the process.
> >L.W. ("ßill") ------ III wrote:
> >> "Cryogenics we utilize a proprietary 60 hour freezing process"
> >> "although we try to ship on the same day."
> >> I think this is bullsh*t, any molecular changes would be set at
> >> molten heat while being cast or forged.

>
> I dunno. Tend to agree with Bill on this. From my classes in material
> science a metal (liquid) only changes its properties based on how long
> it's kept at how high (not low) a temperature and how quickly you quench it.
>
> When I first saw that site it rang my -------- detector loud enough to wake
> the dead in five states.
>
> Somewhere out there there is a study on cryogenics vs non and they show
> no difference in wear at all. If I find that link I'll post it.
>
> --
> DougW


DougW 09-21-2004 07:53 PM

Re: 98 TJ brakes - rotors & pads
 
L.W. ("ßill") ------ III did pass the time by typing:
> Hi Doug,
> Interesting study at:
> http://www.bso.uiuc.edu/~chillar/Cry...ntofMetals.pdf Tests
> showed cryogenically treated of cast Iron load capacity got poorer by
> 23.1%, but increased the abrasion resistance of that specimen by 35.7%


Hmm. Interesting. Maby not as bs as I thought, but then again that's
only one test with a few samples. I'd have more belief if they were
in common use for critical apps like aircraft. Still it's interesting
and I can get Liq N here. :) It's fun to play with.

--
DougW



DougW 09-21-2004 07:53 PM

Re: 98 TJ brakes - rotors & pads
 
L.W. ("ßill") ------ III did pass the time by typing:
> Hi Doug,
> Interesting study at:
> http://www.bso.uiuc.edu/~chillar/Cry...ntofMetals.pdf Tests
> showed cryogenically treated of cast Iron load capacity got poorer by
> 23.1%, but increased the abrasion resistance of that specimen by 35.7%


Hmm. Interesting. Maby not as bs as I thought, but then again that's
only one test with a few samples. I'd have more belief if they were
in common use for critical apps like aircraft. Still it's interesting
and I can get Liq N here. :) It's fun to play with.

--
DougW



DougW 09-21-2004 07:53 PM

Re: 98 TJ brakes - rotors & pads
 
L.W. ("ßill") ------ III did pass the time by typing:
> Hi Doug,
> Interesting study at:
> http://www.bso.uiuc.edu/~chillar/Cry...ntofMetals.pdf Tests
> showed cryogenically treated of cast Iron load capacity got poorer by
> 23.1%, but increased the abrasion resistance of that specimen by 35.7%


Hmm. Interesting. Maby not as bs as I thought, but then again that's
only one test with a few samples. I'd have more belief if they were
in common use for critical apps like aircraft. Still it's interesting
and I can get Liq N here. :) It's fun to play with.

--
DougW



James Nipper 09-21-2004 07:57 PM

Re: 98 TJ brakes - rotors & pads
 


Can't we just answer the original guy's post and tell him to buy some good
quality after-market rotors, like those from Raybestos?

I put them on my 2000 JGC, and they give much better service and life that
the OEM rotors.

--James--


James Nipper 09-21-2004 07:57 PM

Re: 98 TJ brakes - rotors & pads
 


Can't we just answer the original guy's post and tell him to buy some good
quality after-market rotors, like those from Raybestos?

I put them on my 2000 JGC, and they give much better service and life that
the OEM rotors.

--James--


James Nipper 09-21-2004 07:57 PM

Re: 98 TJ brakes - rotors & pads
 


Can't we just answer the original guy's post and tell him to buy some good
quality after-market rotors, like those from Raybestos?

I put them on my 2000 JGC, and they give much better service and life that
the OEM rotors.

--James--


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-21-2004 08:20 PM

Re: 98 TJ brakes - rotors & pads
 
Wouldn't that be redundant, from the first reply?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

James Nipper wrote:
>
> Can't we just answer the original guy's post and tell him to buy some good
> quality after-market rotors, like those from Raybestos?
>
> I put them on my 2000 JGC, and they give much better service and life that
> the OEM rotors.
>
> --James--


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-21-2004 08:20 PM

Re: 98 TJ brakes - rotors & pads
 
Wouldn't that be redundant, from the first reply?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

James Nipper wrote:
>
> Can't we just answer the original guy's post and tell him to buy some good
> quality after-market rotors, like those from Raybestos?
>
> I put them on my 2000 JGC, and they give much better service and life that
> the OEM rotors.
>
> --James--


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-21-2004 08:20 PM

Re: 98 TJ brakes - rotors & pads
 
Wouldn't that be redundant, from the first reply?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

James Nipper wrote:
>
> Can't we just answer the original guy's post and tell him to buy some good
> quality after-market rotors, like those from Raybestos?
>
> I put them on my 2000 JGC, and they give much better service and life that
> the OEM rotors.
>
> --James--



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