milk

hello again,

I posted earlier this week regarding my xj, thanks to all that made
suggestions-- however, nothing worked.

So let's start with the facts:
'97 xj sport, 4.0L 6 cylinder, 141,000 automatic.

the story so far:

It was fine up until last Sunday morning when i went to start it for
work, and it would only turn over-- no spark, and i couldn't pull up
any of the codes with the check engine light ( i could before, even a
55 if nothing else was wrong).

So into the garage it went, first was the thing in the distributor--
crank sensor? that didn't work. Next they realized they could not
connect with the computer, either way, so then came a new (used) PCM,
and that didn't work, fuses were all checked, still nothing.

That's where it stands now, they know its an electrical problem, it's
just a matter as to what....any ideas?

oh and i forgot, when they try to start it, the check engine light
doesn't seem to come on at all anymore.

Please, any more suggestions to look at?

thank you,
Sandy

Mike Romain

milk wrote:
> hello again,
>
> I posted earlier this week regarding my xj, thanks to all that made
> suggestions-- however, nothing worked.
>
> So let's start with the facts:
> '97 xj sport, 4.0L 6 cylinder, 141,000 automatic.
>
> the story so far:
>
> It was fine up until last Sunday morning when i went to start it for
> work, and it would only turn over-- no spark, and i couldn't pull up
> any of the codes with the check engine light ( i could before, even a
> 55 if nothing else was wrong).
>
> So into the garage it went, first was the thing in the distributor--
> crank sensor? that didn't work. Next they realized they could not
> connect with the computer, either way, so then came a new (used) PCM,
> and that didn't work, fuses were all checked, still nothing.
>
> That's where it stands now, they know its an electrical problem, it's
> just a matter as to what....any ideas?
>
> oh and i forgot, when they try to start it, the check engine light
> doesn't seem to come on at all anymore.
>
> Please, any more suggestions to look at?
>
> thank you,
> Sandy
>

Did they verify the body has a ground? There is a mesh strap that rots
easy located from the rear of the engine to the firewall. This is
needed for the computer to turn on.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain

milk wrote:
> hello again,
>
> I posted earlier this week regarding my xj, thanks to all that made
> suggestions-- however, nothing worked.
>
> So let's start with the facts:
> '97 xj sport, 4.0L 6 cylinder, 141,000 automatic.
>
> the story so far:
>
> It was fine up until last Sunday morning when i went to start it for
> work, and it would only turn over-- no spark, and i couldn't pull up
> any of the codes with the check engine light ( i could before, even a
> 55 if nothing else was wrong).
>
> So into the garage it went, first was the thing in the distributor--
> crank sensor? that didn't work. Next they realized they could not
> connect with the computer, either way, so then came a new (used) PCM,
> and that didn't work, fuses were all checked, still nothing.
>
> That's where it stands now, they know its an electrical problem, it's
> just a matter as to what....any ideas?
>
> oh and i forgot, when they try to start it, the check engine light
> doesn't seem to come on at all anymore.
>
> Please, any more suggestions to look at?
>
> thank you,
> Sandy
>

Did they verify the body has a ground? There is a mesh strap that rots
easy located from the rear of the engine to the firewall. This is
needed for the computer to turn on.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain

milk wrote:
> hello again,
>
> I posted earlier this week regarding my xj, thanks to all that made
> suggestions-- however, nothing worked.
>
> So let's start with the facts:
> '97 xj sport, 4.0L 6 cylinder, 141,000 automatic.
>
> the story so far:
>
> It was fine up until last Sunday morning when i went to start it for
> work, and it would only turn over-- no spark, and i couldn't pull up
> any of the codes with the check engine light ( i could before, even a
> 55 if nothing else was wrong).
>
> So into the garage it went, first was the thing in the distributor--
> crank sensor? that didn't work. Next they realized they could not
> connect with the computer, either way, so then came a new (used) PCM,
> and that didn't work, fuses were all checked, still nothing.
>
> That's where it stands now, they know its an electrical problem, it's
> just a matter as to what....any ideas?
>
> oh and i forgot, when they try to start it, the check engine light
> doesn't seem to come on at all anymore.
>
> Please, any more suggestions to look at?
>
> thank you,
> Sandy
>

Did they verify the body has a ground? There is a mesh strap that rots
easy located from the rear of the engine to the firewall. This is
needed for the computer to turn on.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain

milk wrote:
> hello again,
>
> I posted earlier this week regarding my xj, thanks to all that made
> suggestions-- however, nothing worked.
>
> So let's start with the facts:
> '97 xj sport, 4.0L 6 cylinder, 141,000 automatic.
>
> the story so far:
>
> It was fine up until last Sunday morning when i went to start it for
> work, and it would only turn over-- no spark, and i couldn't pull up
> any of the codes with the check engine light ( i could before, even a
> 55 if nothing else was wrong).
>
> So into the garage it went, first was the thing in the distributor--
> crank sensor? that didn't work. Next they realized they could not
> connect with the computer, either way, so then came a new (used) PCM,
> and that didn't work, fuses were all checked, still nothing.
>
> That's where it stands now, they know its an electrical problem, it's
> just a matter as to what....any ideas?
>
> oh and i forgot, when they try to start it, the check engine light
> doesn't seem to come on at all anymore.
>
> Please, any more suggestions to look at?
>
> thank you,
> Sandy
>

Did they verify the body has a ground? There is a mesh strap that rots
easy located from the rear of the engine to the firewall. This is
needed for the computer to turn on.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

milk

> Did they verify the body has a ground? There is a mesh strap that rots
> easy located from the rear of the engine to the firewall. This is
> needed for the computer to turn on.


Hi Mike,

Yes, the ground is intact and they tested to make sure the jeep had a
ground.
I forgot to mention that in the original post.

What else is there to consider?

thanks,

Sandy

milk

> Did they verify the body has a ground? There is a mesh strap that rots
> easy located from the rear of the engine to the firewall. This is
> needed for the computer to turn on.


Hi Mike,

Yes, the ground is intact and they tested to make sure the jeep had a
ground.
I forgot to mention that in the original post.

What else is there to consider?

thanks,

Sandy

milk

> Did they verify the body has a ground? There is a mesh strap that rots
> easy located from the rear of the engine to the firewall. This is
> needed for the computer to turn on.


Hi Mike,

Yes, the ground is intact and they tested to make sure the jeep had a
ground.
I forgot to mention that in the original post.

What else is there to consider?

thanks,

Sandy

milk

> Did they verify the body has a ground? There is a mesh strap that rots
> easy located from the rear of the engine to the firewall. This is
> needed for the computer to turn on.


Hi Mike,

Yes, the ground is intact and they tested to make sure the jeep had a
ground.
I forgot to mention that in the original post.

What else is there to consider?

thanks,

Sandy

bllsht

On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 08:57:08 -0700, milk <phantom_milkie@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>hello again,
>
>I posted earlier this week regarding my xj, thanks to all that made
>suggestions-- however, nothing worked.
>
>So let's start with the facts:
>'97 xj sport, 4.0L 6 cylinder, 141,000 automatic.
>
>the story so far:
>
>It was fine up until last Sunday morning when i went to start it for
>work, and it would only turn over-- no spark, and i couldn't pull up
>any of the codes with the check engine light ( i could before, even a
>55 if nothing else was wrong).
>
>So into the garage it went, first was the thing in the distributor--
>crank sensor? that didn't work. Next they realized they could not
>connect with the computer, either way, so then came a new (used) PCM,
>and that didn't work, fuses were all checked, still nothing.

The "thing in the distributor" isn't the crank sensor. That is the cam
sensor. The crank sensor bolts to the top left side of the
transmission bell housing.

>
>That's where it stands now, they know its an electrical problem, it's
>just a matter as to what....any ideas?
>
>oh and i forgot, when they try to start it, the check engine light
>doesn't seem to come on at all anymore.
>
>Please, any more suggestions to look at?

I have two suggestions.

Replace the crank sensor.

Never take a vehicle to that "garage" again.



>
>thank you,
>Sandy