97 wrangler valve lifters...
2.5l, '97 wrangler, valve lifters....do I need a special tool to remove the
lifters? Where do I get it? Will the lifters come out without removing the head? I know I could use a magnet, but there is probably some varnish on the lifter. I have some rocker arm noise, will replace the rocker arm, push rod, etc., and would like to replace the lifter also... thanks cal |
Re: 97 wrangler valve lifters...
According to my 2000 FSM, the 2.5L 4cyl does not require removal of the
head, but you do need a "Hydraulic Valve Tappet Removal/Installation Tool C-4129-A." "Cal" <codom1*IHATESPAM*@triad.rr.com> wrote in message news:zPKah.58118$HD6.23817@tornado.southeast.rr.co m... > 2.5l, '97 wrangler, valve lifters....do I need a special tool to remove > the lifters? Where do I get it? Will the lifters come out without > removing the head? I know I could use a magnet, but there is probably > some varnish on the lifter. I have some rocker arm noise, will replace > the rocker arm, push rod, etc., and would like to replace the lifter > also... > > thanks > > cal > > |
Re: 97 wrangler valve lifters...
According to my 2000 FSM, the 2.5L 4cyl does not require removal of the
head, but you do need a "Hydraulic Valve Tappet Removal/Installation Tool C-4129-A." "Cal" <codom1*IHATESPAM*@triad.rr.com> wrote in message news:zPKah.58118$HD6.23817@tornado.southeast.rr.co m... > 2.5l, '97 wrangler, valve lifters....do I need a special tool to remove > the lifters? Where do I get it? Will the lifters come out without > removing the head? I know I could use a magnet, but there is probably > some varnish on the lifter. I have some rocker arm noise, will replace > the rocker arm, push rod, etc., and would like to replace the lifter > also... > > thanks > > cal > > |
Re: 97 wrangler valve lifters...
According to my 2000 FSM, the 2.5L 4cyl does not require removal of the
head, but you do need a "Hydraulic Valve Tappet Removal/Installation Tool C-4129-A." "Cal" <codom1*IHATESPAM*@triad.rr.com> wrote in message news:zPKah.58118$HD6.23817@tornado.southeast.rr.co m... > 2.5l, '97 wrangler, valve lifters....do I need a special tool to remove > the lifters? Where do I get it? Will the lifters come out without > removing the head? I know I could use a magnet, but there is probably > some varnish on the lifter. I have some rocker arm noise, will replace > the rocker arm, push rod, etc., and would like to replace the lifter > also... > > thanks > > cal > > |
Re: 97 wrangler valve lifters...
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> According to my 2000 FSM, the 2.5L 4cyl does not require removal of > the head, but you do need a "Hydraulic Valve Tappet > Removal/Installation Tool C-4129-A." Should be similar to this tool. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000BHQ1W8 Check your local AutoZone to see if they have one in the loaner bin. > "Cal" <codom1*IHATESPAM*@triad.rr.com> wrote in message > news:zPKah.58118$HD6.23817@tornado.southeast.rr.co m... >> 2.5l, '97 wrangler, valve lifters....do I need a special tool to >> remove the lifters? Where do I get it? Will the lifters come out >> without removing the head? I know I could use a magnet, but there >> is probably some varnish on the lifter. I have some rocker arm >> noise, will replace the rocker arm, push rod, etc., and would like >> to replace the lifter also... >> >> thanks >> >> cal |
Re: 97 wrangler valve lifters...
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> According to my 2000 FSM, the 2.5L 4cyl does not require removal of > the head, but you do need a "Hydraulic Valve Tappet > Removal/Installation Tool C-4129-A." Should be similar to this tool. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000BHQ1W8 Check your local AutoZone to see if they have one in the loaner bin. > "Cal" <codom1*IHATESPAM*@triad.rr.com> wrote in message > news:zPKah.58118$HD6.23817@tornado.southeast.rr.co m... >> 2.5l, '97 wrangler, valve lifters....do I need a special tool to >> remove the lifters? Where do I get it? Will the lifters come out >> without removing the head? I know I could use a magnet, but there >> is probably some varnish on the lifter. I have some rocker arm >> noise, will replace the rocker arm, push rod, etc., and would like >> to replace the lifter also... >> >> thanks >> >> cal |
Re: 97 wrangler valve lifters...
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> According to my 2000 FSM, the 2.5L 4cyl does not require removal of > the head, but you do need a "Hydraulic Valve Tappet > Removal/Installation Tool C-4129-A." Should be similar to this tool. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000BHQ1W8 Check your local AutoZone to see if they have one in the loaner bin. > "Cal" <codom1*IHATESPAM*@triad.rr.com> wrote in message > news:zPKah.58118$HD6.23817@tornado.southeast.rr.co m... >> 2.5l, '97 wrangler, valve lifters....do I need a special tool to >> remove the lifters? Where do I get it? Will the lifters come out >> without removing the head? I know I could use a magnet, but there >> is probably some varnish on the lifter. I have some rocker arm >> noise, will replace the rocker arm, push rod, etc., and would like >> to replace the lifter also... >> >> thanks >> >> cal |
Re: 97 wrangler valve lifters...
Cal wrote:
> 2.5l, '97 wrangler, valve lifters....do I need a special tool to remove the > lifters? Where do I get it? Will the lifters come out without removing the > head? I know I could use a magnet, but there is probably some varnish on > the lifter. I have some rocker arm noise, will replace the rocker arm, push > rod, etc., and would like to replace the lifter also... > > thanks > > cal > > Teloscoping magnet is the tool, good luck finding a lifter removal tool none of my area parts stores have them (Advance, Autozone etc.). That said don't change your lifters, Cam's and lifters should be replaced at the same time, they wear into each other developing unique wear patterns and unique patterns of work hardening (which is a lot like forging metal) on both surfaces. A new lifter (or vice versa a new cam while reusing old lifters) can quite possibly eat a lobe (or lifter face). Imagine it this way... that old lifter has been sitting on the same Cam lobe for thousands of miles, the shoulders and face of the Cam lobe are slightly rounded and the face of the lifter is dished, these surfaces are WAY HARDER than when freshly milled... Your new softer lifter is not dished... that means the Cam lobe is contacting the new lifter only on a tiny POINT, Cam lobe AND lifter face is going have extremely accelerated wear. Because the same lifter preload and spring pressure are being born on a MUCH smaller surface area, one side of which is MUCH harder than the other. Don't ask me how I learned this... Lets just say that it cost me the price of a nice set of Crane anti-pump up lifters (64 bucks), as the stock Cam shaft had 140k and was going to be replaced anyway. -- Simon "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein |
Re: 97 wrangler valve lifters...
Cal wrote:
> 2.5l, '97 wrangler, valve lifters....do I need a special tool to remove the > lifters? Where do I get it? Will the lifters come out without removing the > head? I know I could use a magnet, but there is probably some varnish on > the lifter. I have some rocker arm noise, will replace the rocker arm, push > rod, etc., and would like to replace the lifter also... > > thanks > > cal > > Teloscoping magnet is the tool, good luck finding a lifter removal tool none of my area parts stores have them (Advance, Autozone etc.). That said don't change your lifters, Cam's and lifters should be replaced at the same time, they wear into each other developing unique wear patterns and unique patterns of work hardening (which is a lot like forging metal) on both surfaces. A new lifter (or vice versa a new cam while reusing old lifters) can quite possibly eat a lobe (or lifter face). Imagine it this way... that old lifter has been sitting on the same Cam lobe for thousands of miles, the shoulders and face of the Cam lobe are slightly rounded and the face of the lifter is dished, these surfaces are WAY HARDER than when freshly milled... Your new softer lifter is not dished... that means the Cam lobe is contacting the new lifter only on a tiny POINT, Cam lobe AND lifter face is going have extremely accelerated wear. Because the same lifter preload and spring pressure are being born on a MUCH smaller surface area, one side of which is MUCH harder than the other. Don't ask me how I learned this... Lets just say that it cost me the price of a nice set of Crane anti-pump up lifters (64 bucks), as the stock Cam shaft had 140k and was going to be replaced anyway. -- Simon "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein |
Re: 97 wrangler valve lifters...
Cal wrote:
> 2.5l, '97 wrangler, valve lifters....do I need a special tool to remove the > lifters? Where do I get it? Will the lifters come out without removing the > head? I know I could use a magnet, but there is probably some varnish on > the lifter. I have some rocker arm noise, will replace the rocker arm, push > rod, etc., and would like to replace the lifter also... > > thanks > > cal > > Teloscoping magnet is the tool, good luck finding a lifter removal tool none of my area parts stores have them (Advance, Autozone etc.). That said don't change your lifters, Cam's and lifters should be replaced at the same time, they wear into each other developing unique wear patterns and unique patterns of work hardening (which is a lot like forging metal) on both surfaces. A new lifter (or vice versa a new cam while reusing old lifters) can quite possibly eat a lobe (or lifter face). Imagine it this way... that old lifter has been sitting on the same Cam lobe for thousands of miles, the shoulders and face of the Cam lobe are slightly rounded and the face of the lifter is dished, these surfaces are WAY HARDER than when freshly milled... Your new softer lifter is not dished... that means the Cam lobe is contacting the new lifter only on a tiny POINT, Cam lobe AND lifter face is going have extremely accelerated wear. Because the same lifter preload and spring pressure are being born on a MUCH smaller surface area, one side of which is MUCH harder than the other. Don't ask me how I learned this... Lets just say that it cost me the price of a nice set of Crane anti-pump up lifters (64 bucks), as the stock Cam shaft had 140k and was going to be replaced anyway. -- Simon "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein |
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