Cal

I have a '97 wrangler that I believe is having some ignition switch
problems. This afternoon, after starting, the radio, fan motor, turn
signals, would not operate, and the brake light stayed on. The jeep
otherwise ran/drove fine. After restarting a little later, it had the same
problems as described above, but after a couple minutes, everything returned
to normal. Fan worked, turn signals worked, radio played, brake light (on
instrument cluster)went out. My son thinks he may have moved the key a
little when everything started working again, so I'm leaning toward the
ignition switch being the problem. The key on-key off method revealed error
code 42 (open condition detected in the asd relay output circuit), but no
codes revealed by a drb2 scan tool. Am I right to think this may be the
ignition switch, or should I consider some relay? The jeep hadn't been
started prior for several days, and we had the lowest temp of the season the
other night (20 degrees.), and I suspect that the temp may have had
something to do with the switch, after starting, maybe not returning
completely to the normal 'run' position. Thanks for any help!

Cal

Should I have said obd-2 scan tool? well, you get the idea :)

cal

"Cal" <codom1IHATESPAM@triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:zBuFb.144049$Vu5.9602718@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> I have a '97 wrangler that I believe is having some ignition switch
> problems. This afternoon, after starting, the radio, fan motor, turn
> signals, would not operate, and the brake light stayed on. The jeep
> otherwise ran/drove fine. After restarting a little later, it had the
same
> problems as described above, but after a couple minutes, everything
returned
> to normal. Fan worked, turn signals worked, radio played, brake light (on
> instrument cluster)went out. My son thinks he may have moved the key a
> little when everything started working again, so I'm leaning toward the
> ignition switch being the problem. The key on-key off method revealed
error
> code 42 (open condition detected in the asd relay output circuit), but no
> codes revealed by a drb2 scan tool. Am I right to think this may be the
> ignition switch, or should I consider some relay? The jeep hadn't been
> started prior for several days, and we had the lowest temp of the season
the
> other night (20 degrees.), and I suspect that the temp may have had
> something to do with the switch, after starting, maybe not returning
> completely to the normal 'run' position. Thanks for any help!
>
>

Cal

Should I have said obd-2 scan tool? well, you get the idea :)

cal

"Cal" <codom1IHATESPAM@triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:zBuFb.144049$Vu5.9602718@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> I have a '97 wrangler that I believe is having some ignition switch
> problems. This afternoon, after starting, the radio, fan motor, turn
> signals, would not operate, and the brake light stayed on. The jeep
> otherwise ran/drove fine. After restarting a little later, it had the
same
> problems as described above, but after a couple minutes, everything
returned
> to normal. Fan worked, turn signals worked, radio played, brake light (on
> instrument cluster)went out. My son thinks he may have moved the key a
> little when everything started working again, so I'm leaning toward the
> ignition switch being the problem. The key on-key off method revealed
error
> code 42 (open condition detected in the asd relay output circuit), but no
> codes revealed by a drb2 scan tool. Am I right to think this may be the
> ignition switch, or should I consider some relay? The jeep hadn't been
> started prior for several days, and we had the lowest temp of the season
the
> other night (20 degrees.), and I suspect that the temp may have had
> something to do with the switch, after starting, maybe not returning
> completely to the normal 'run' position. Thanks for any help!
>
>

Cal

Should I have said obd-2 scan tool? well, you get the idea :)

cal

"Cal" <codom1IHATESPAM@triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:zBuFb.144049$Vu5.9602718@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> I have a '97 wrangler that I believe is having some ignition switch
> problems. This afternoon, after starting, the radio, fan motor, turn
> signals, would not operate, and the brake light stayed on. The jeep
> otherwise ran/drove fine. After restarting a little later, it had the
same
> problems as described above, but after a couple minutes, everything
returned
> to normal. Fan worked, turn signals worked, radio played, brake light (on
> instrument cluster)went out. My son thinks he may have moved the key a
> little when everything started working again, so I'm leaning toward the
> ignition switch being the problem. The key on-key off method revealed
error
> code 42 (open condition detected in the asd relay output circuit), but no
> codes revealed by a drb2 scan tool. Am I right to think this may be the
> ignition switch, or should I consider some relay? The jeep hadn't been
> started prior for several days, and we had the lowest temp of the season
the
> other night (20 degrees.), and I suspect that the temp may have had
> something to do with the switch, after starting, maybe not returning
> completely to the normal 'run' position. Thanks for any help!
>
>

DougW

Cal did pass the time by typing:
> Should I have said obd-2 scan tool? well, you get the idea :)

>> I have a '97 wrangler that I believe is having some ignition switch
>> problems. This afternoon, after starting, the radio, fan motor, turn
>> signals, would not operate, and the brake light stayed on. The jeep
>> otherwise ran/drove fine. After restarting a little later, it had the same
>> problems as described above, but after a couple minutes, everything returned
>> to normal. Fan worked, turn signals worked, radio played, brake light (on
>> instrument cluster)went out. My son thinks he may have moved the key a
>> little when everything started working again, so I'm leaning toward the
>> ignition switch being the problem. The key on-key off method revealed error
>> code 42 (open condition detected in the asd relay output circuit), but no
>> codes revealed by a drb2 scan tool. Am I right to think this may be the
>> ignition switch, or should I consider some relay? The jeep hadn't been
>> started prior for several days, and we had the lowest temp of the season the
>> other night (20 degrees.), and I suspect that the temp may have had
>> something to do with the switch, after starting, maybe not returning
>> completely to the normal 'run' position. Thanks for any help!

The relay is a cheap fix $9 or less. I keep a spare.

Check the dash connector. There is a know problem for the Wrangler where
the pins fail to get a good connection and all things go basically nuts.

The cheap solution is to undo the connector and give each pin a slight tweak
i.e. from - to \ but not that far :) Then clean and reassemble the connector.

Till then you can use brogan maintenance.

--
DougW
(brogan maintenance) slang for hitting it with your brogan/shoe or a good
solid whack with the magic mallet.

DougW

Cal did pass the time by typing:
> Should I have said obd-2 scan tool? well, you get the idea :)

>> I have a '97 wrangler that I believe is having some ignition switch
>> problems. This afternoon, after starting, the radio, fan motor, turn
>> signals, would not operate, and the brake light stayed on. The jeep
>> otherwise ran/drove fine. After restarting a little later, it had the same
>> problems as described above, but after a couple minutes, everything returned
>> to normal. Fan worked, turn signals worked, radio played, brake light (on
>> instrument cluster)went out. My son thinks he may have moved the key a
>> little when everything started working again, so I'm leaning toward the
>> ignition switch being the problem. The key on-key off method revealed error
>> code 42 (open condition detected in the asd relay output circuit), but no
>> codes revealed by a drb2 scan tool. Am I right to think this may be the
>> ignition switch, or should I consider some relay? The jeep hadn't been
>> started prior for several days, and we had the lowest temp of the season the
>> other night (20 degrees.), and I suspect that the temp may have had
>> something to do with the switch, after starting, maybe not returning
>> completely to the normal 'run' position. Thanks for any help!

The relay is a cheap fix $9 or less. I keep a spare.

Check the dash connector. There is a know problem for the Wrangler where
the pins fail to get a good connection and all things go basically nuts.

The cheap solution is to undo the connector and give each pin a slight tweak
i.e. from - to \ but not that far :) Then clean and reassemble the connector.

Till then you can use brogan maintenance.

--
DougW
(brogan maintenance) slang for hitting it with your brogan/shoe or a good
solid whack with the magic mallet.

DougW

Cal did pass the time by typing:
> Should I have said obd-2 scan tool? well, you get the idea :)

>> I have a '97 wrangler that I believe is having some ignition switch
>> problems. This afternoon, after starting, the radio, fan motor, turn
>> signals, would not operate, and the brake light stayed on. The jeep
>> otherwise ran/drove fine. After restarting a little later, it had the same
>> problems as described above, but after a couple minutes, everything returned
>> to normal. Fan worked, turn signals worked, radio played, brake light (on
>> instrument cluster)went out. My son thinks he may have moved the key a
>> little when everything started working again, so I'm leaning toward the
>> ignition switch being the problem. The key on-key off method revealed error
>> code 42 (open condition detected in the asd relay output circuit), but no
>> codes revealed by a drb2 scan tool. Am I right to think this may be the
>> ignition switch, or should I consider some relay? The jeep hadn't been
>> started prior for several days, and we had the lowest temp of the season the
>> other night (20 degrees.), and I suspect that the temp may have had
>> something to do with the switch, after starting, maybe not returning
>> completely to the normal 'run' position. Thanks for any help!

The relay is a cheap fix $9 or less. I keep a spare.

Check the dash connector. There is a know problem for the Wrangler where
the pins fail to get a good connection and all things go basically nuts.

The cheap solution is to undo the connector and give each pin a slight tweak
i.e. from - to \ but not that far :) Then clean and reassemble the connector.

Till then you can use brogan maintenance.

--
DougW
(brogan maintenance) slang for hitting it with your brogan/shoe or a good
solid whack with the magic mallet.

Cal

Thanks!

cal

"Cal" <codom1IHATESPAM@triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:zBuFb.144049$Vu5.9602718@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> I have a '97 wrangler that I believe is having some ignition switch
> problems. This afternoon, after starting, the radio, fan motor, turn
> signals, would not operate, and the brake light stayed on. The jeep
> otherwise ran/drove fine. After restarting a little later, it had the
same
> problems as described above, but after a couple minutes, everything
returned
> to normal. Fan worked, turn signals worked, radio played, brake light (on
> instrument cluster)went out. My son thinks he may have moved the key a
> little when everything started working again, so I'm leaning toward the
> ignition switch being the problem. The key on-key off method revealed
error
> code 42 (open condition detected in the asd relay output circuit), but no
> codes revealed by a drb2 scan tool. Am I right to think this may be the
> ignition switch, or should I consider some relay? The jeep hadn't been
> started prior for several days, and we had the lowest temp of the season
the
> other night (20 degrees.), and I suspect that the temp may have had
> something to do with the switch, after starting, maybe not returning
> completely to the normal 'run' position. Thanks for any help!
>
>

Cal

Thanks!

cal

"Cal" <codom1IHATESPAM@triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:zBuFb.144049$Vu5.9602718@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> I have a '97 wrangler that I believe is having some ignition switch
> problems. This afternoon, after starting, the radio, fan motor, turn
> signals, would not operate, and the brake light stayed on. The jeep
> otherwise ran/drove fine. After restarting a little later, it had the
same
> problems as described above, but after a couple minutes, everything
returned
> to normal. Fan worked, turn signals worked, radio played, brake light (on
> instrument cluster)went out. My son thinks he may have moved the key a
> little when everything started working again, so I'm leaning toward the
> ignition switch being the problem. The key on-key off method revealed
error
> code 42 (open condition detected in the asd relay output circuit), but no
> codes revealed by a drb2 scan tool. Am I right to think this may be the
> ignition switch, or should I consider some relay? The jeep hadn't been
> started prior for several days, and we had the lowest temp of the season
the
> other night (20 degrees.), and I suspect that the temp may have had
> something to do with the switch, after starting, maybe not returning
> completely to the normal 'run' position. Thanks for any help!
>
>

Cal

Thanks!

cal

"Cal" <codom1IHATESPAM@triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:zBuFb.144049$Vu5.9602718@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> I have a '97 wrangler that I believe is having some ignition switch
> problems. This afternoon, after starting, the radio, fan motor, turn
> signals, would not operate, and the brake light stayed on. The jeep
> otherwise ran/drove fine. After restarting a little later, it had the
same
> problems as described above, but after a couple minutes, everything
returned
> to normal. Fan worked, turn signals worked, radio played, brake light (on
> instrument cluster)went out. My son thinks he may have moved the key a
> little when everything started working again, so I'm leaning toward the
> ignition switch being the problem. The key on-key off method revealed
error
> code 42 (open condition detected in the asd relay output circuit), but no
> codes revealed by a drb2 scan tool. Am I right to think this may be the
> ignition switch, or should I consider some relay? The jeep hadn't been
> started prior for several days, and we had the lowest temp of the season
the
> other night (20 degrees.), and I suspect that the temp may have had
> something to do with the switch, after starting, maybe not returning
> completely to the normal 'run' position. Thanks for any help!
>
>