97 TJ/SE - New owner problems
12-31-2004, 01:02 PM
#14
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Re: 97 TJ/SE - New owner problems
Hi Sausage Cat,
Congrads, I own a 97 also!! I would question putting carpet in a jeep
if you off road or mud alot....less cleaning out and you can drain it
easier. Check the engine mounts to make sure they are alright. Check the
Transfercase pad between the skid plate and the transfercase. How many
miles on this jeep? Is it a standard or auto. Over Christmas I just put a
4 inch lift in mine, prior to that it was a valve job. I think next will be
a shorter shaft for the transfercase and a slip yoke elminator (less
vibrations). Oh, yes, put a tuffy console in it.
thanks,
paul
pbarton@houston.rr.com
"Sausage Cat" <SausageCat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1104476995.883801.194530@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
> Thank You all for the advice. Now I need some product recommendation:
>
> Carpet
>
> PROLINE CARPET SET TJ-CHARCOAL 66013
> or
> DELUXE CARPET SET 97+ TJ GRAY 79702-15
> Thank You.
>
> Sausage Cat
> 97 Jeep TJ/SE
>
Congrads, I own a 97 also!! I would question putting carpet in a jeep
if you off road or mud alot....less cleaning out and you can drain it
easier. Check the engine mounts to make sure they are alright. Check the
Transfercase pad between the skid plate and the transfercase. How many
miles on this jeep? Is it a standard or auto. Over Christmas I just put a
4 inch lift in mine, prior to that it was a valve job. I think next will be
a shorter shaft for the transfercase and a slip yoke elminator (less
vibrations). Oh, yes, put a tuffy console in it.
thanks,
paul
pbarton@houston.rr.com
"Sausage Cat" <SausageCat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1104476995.883801.194530@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
> Thank You all for the advice. Now I need some product recommendation:
>
> Carpet
>
> PROLINE CARPET SET TJ-CHARCOAL 66013
> or
> DELUXE CARPET SET 97+ TJ GRAY 79702-15
> Thank You.
>
> Sausage Cat
> 97 Jeep TJ/SE
>
12-31-2004, 01:02 PM
#15
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Re: 97 TJ/SE - New owner problems
Hi Sausage Cat,
Congrads, I own a 97 also!! I would question putting carpet in a jeep
if you off road or mud alot....less cleaning out and you can drain it
easier. Check the engine mounts to make sure they are alright. Check the
Transfercase pad between the skid plate and the transfercase. How many
miles on this jeep? Is it a standard or auto. Over Christmas I just put a
4 inch lift in mine, prior to that it was a valve job. I think next will be
a shorter shaft for the transfercase and a slip yoke elminator (less
vibrations). Oh, yes, put a tuffy console in it.
thanks,
paul
pbarton@houston.rr.com
"Sausage Cat" <SausageCat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1104476995.883801.194530@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
> Thank You all for the advice. Now I need some product recommendation:
>
> Carpet
>
> PROLINE CARPET SET TJ-CHARCOAL 66013
> or
> DELUXE CARPET SET 97+ TJ GRAY 79702-15
> Thank You.
>
> Sausage Cat
> 97 Jeep TJ/SE
>
Congrads, I own a 97 also!! I would question putting carpet in a jeep
if you off road or mud alot....less cleaning out and you can drain it
easier. Check the engine mounts to make sure they are alright. Check the
Transfercase pad between the skid plate and the transfercase. How many
miles on this jeep? Is it a standard or auto. Over Christmas I just put a
4 inch lift in mine, prior to that it was a valve job. I think next will be
a shorter shaft for the transfercase and a slip yoke elminator (less
vibrations). Oh, yes, put a tuffy console in it.
thanks,
paul
pbarton@houston.rr.com
"Sausage Cat" <SausageCat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1104476995.883801.194530@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
> Thank You all for the advice. Now I need some product recommendation:
>
> Carpet
>
> PROLINE CARPET SET TJ-CHARCOAL 66013
> or
> DELUXE CARPET SET 97+ TJ GRAY 79702-15
> Thank You.
>
> Sausage Cat
> 97 Jeep TJ/SE
>
12-31-2004, 01:02 PM
#16
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Re: 97 TJ/SE - New owner problems
Hi Sausage Cat,
Congrads, I own a 97 also!! I would question putting carpet in a jeep
if you off road or mud alot....less cleaning out and you can drain it
easier. Check the engine mounts to make sure they are alright. Check the
Transfercase pad between the skid plate and the transfercase. How many
miles on this jeep? Is it a standard or auto. Over Christmas I just put a
4 inch lift in mine, prior to that it was a valve job. I think next will be
a shorter shaft for the transfercase and a slip yoke elminator (less
vibrations). Oh, yes, put a tuffy console in it.
thanks,
paul
pbarton@houston.rr.com
"Sausage Cat" <SausageCat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1104476995.883801.194530@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
> Thank You all for the advice. Now I need some product recommendation:
>
> Carpet
>
> PROLINE CARPET SET TJ-CHARCOAL 66013
> or
> DELUXE CARPET SET 97+ TJ GRAY 79702-15
> Thank You.
>
> Sausage Cat
> 97 Jeep TJ/SE
>
Congrads, I own a 97 also!! I would question putting carpet in a jeep
if you off road or mud alot....less cleaning out and you can drain it
easier. Check the engine mounts to make sure they are alright. Check the
Transfercase pad between the skid plate and the transfercase. How many
miles on this jeep? Is it a standard or auto. Over Christmas I just put a
4 inch lift in mine, prior to that it was a valve job. I think next will be
a shorter shaft for the transfercase and a slip yoke elminator (less
vibrations). Oh, yes, put a tuffy console in it.
thanks,
paul
pbarton@houston.rr.com
"Sausage Cat" <SausageCat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1104476995.883801.194530@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
> Thank You all for the advice. Now I need some product recommendation:
>
> Carpet
>
> PROLINE CARPET SET TJ-CHARCOAL 66013
> or
> DELUXE CARPET SET 97+ TJ GRAY 79702-15
> Thank You.
>
> Sausage Cat
> 97 Jeep TJ/SE
>
12-31-2004, 01:07 PM
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Re: 97 TJ/SE - New owner problems
Paul, what'd your valve job cost you? And what symptoms were you having
that led you to have it done? I know my valve seats are shot from how
my '97 TJ's 4.0L engine is starting to stumble and get more and more
'43' codes. I just got a quote of $413 for the work on the head itself
which includes new hardened intake and exhaust seats.
Jerry
pbarton wrote:
> Hi Sausage Cat,
> Congrads, I own a 97 also!! I would question putting carpet in a jeep
> if you off road or mud alot....less cleaning out and you can drain it
> easier. Check the engine mounts to make sure they are alright. Check the
> Transfercase pad between the skid plate and the transfercase. How many
> miles on this jeep? Is it a standard or auto. Over Christmas I just put a
> 4 inch lift in mine, prior to that it was a valve job. I think next will be
> a shorter shaft for the transfercase and a slip yoke elminator (less
> vibrations). Oh, yes, put a tuffy console in it.
> thanks,
> paul
>
> pbarton@houston.rr.com
>
>
>
>
>
> "Sausage Cat" <SausageCat@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1104476995.883801.194530@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>
>>Thank You all for the advice. Now I need some product recommendation:
>>
>>Carpet
>>
>>PROLINE CARPET SET TJ-CHARCOAL 66013
>>or
>>DELUXE CARPET SET 97+ TJ GRAY 79702-15
>>Thank You.
>>
>>Sausage Cat
>>97 Jeep TJ/SE
>>
>
>
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
that led you to have it done? I know my valve seats are shot from how
my '97 TJ's 4.0L engine is starting to stumble and get more and more
'43' codes. I just got a quote of $413 for the work on the head itself
which includes new hardened intake and exhaust seats.
Jerry
pbarton wrote:
> Hi Sausage Cat,
> Congrads, I own a 97 also!! I would question putting carpet in a jeep
> if you off road or mud alot....less cleaning out and you can drain it
> easier. Check the engine mounts to make sure they are alright. Check the
> Transfercase pad between the skid plate and the transfercase. How many
> miles on this jeep? Is it a standard or auto. Over Christmas I just put a
> 4 inch lift in mine, prior to that it was a valve job. I think next will be
> a shorter shaft for the transfercase and a slip yoke elminator (less
> vibrations). Oh, yes, put a tuffy console in it.
> thanks,
> paul
>
> pbarton@houston.rr.com
>
>
>
>
>
> "Sausage Cat" <SausageCat@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1104476995.883801.194530@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>
>>Thank You all for the advice. Now I need some product recommendation:
>>
>>Carpet
>>
>>PROLINE CARPET SET TJ-CHARCOAL 66013
>>or
>>DELUXE CARPET SET 97+ TJ GRAY 79702-15
>>Thank You.
>>
>>Sausage Cat
>>97 Jeep TJ/SE
>>
>
>
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
12-31-2004, 01:07 PM
#18
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Re: 97 TJ/SE - New owner problems
Paul, what'd your valve job cost you? And what symptoms were you having
that led you to have it done? I know my valve seats are shot from how
my '97 TJ's 4.0L engine is starting to stumble and get more and more
'43' codes. I just got a quote of $413 for the work on the head itself
which includes new hardened intake and exhaust seats.
Jerry
pbarton wrote:
> Hi Sausage Cat,
> Congrads, I own a 97 also!! I would question putting carpet in a jeep
> if you off road or mud alot....less cleaning out and you can drain it
> easier. Check the engine mounts to make sure they are alright. Check the
> Transfercase pad between the skid plate and the transfercase. How many
> miles on this jeep? Is it a standard or auto. Over Christmas I just put a
> 4 inch lift in mine, prior to that it was a valve job. I think next will be
> a shorter shaft for the transfercase and a slip yoke elminator (less
> vibrations). Oh, yes, put a tuffy console in it.
> thanks,
> paul
>
> pbarton@houston.rr.com
>
>
>
>
>
> "Sausage Cat" <SausageCat@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1104476995.883801.194530@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>
>>Thank You all for the advice. Now I need some product recommendation:
>>
>>Carpet
>>
>>PROLINE CARPET SET TJ-CHARCOAL 66013
>>or
>>DELUXE CARPET SET 97+ TJ GRAY 79702-15
>>Thank You.
>>
>>Sausage Cat
>>97 Jeep TJ/SE
>>
>
>
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
that led you to have it done? I know my valve seats are shot from how
my '97 TJ's 4.0L engine is starting to stumble and get more and more
'43' codes. I just got a quote of $413 for the work on the head itself
which includes new hardened intake and exhaust seats.
Jerry
pbarton wrote:
> Hi Sausage Cat,
> Congrads, I own a 97 also!! I would question putting carpet in a jeep
> if you off road or mud alot....less cleaning out and you can drain it
> easier. Check the engine mounts to make sure they are alright. Check the
> Transfercase pad between the skid plate and the transfercase. How many
> miles on this jeep? Is it a standard or auto. Over Christmas I just put a
> 4 inch lift in mine, prior to that it was a valve job. I think next will be
> a shorter shaft for the transfercase and a slip yoke elminator (less
> vibrations). Oh, yes, put a tuffy console in it.
> thanks,
> paul
>
> pbarton@houston.rr.com
>
>
>
>
>
> "Sausage Cat" <SausageCat@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1104476995.883801.194530@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>
>>Thank You all for the advice. Now I need some product recommendation:
>>
>>Carpet
>>
>>PROLINE CARPET SET TJ-CHARCOAL 66013
>>or
>>DELUXE CARPET SET 97+ TJ GRAY 79702-15
>>Thank You.
>>
>>Sausage Cat
>>97 Jeep TJ/SE
>>
>
>
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
12-31-2004, 01:07 PM
#19
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Re: 97 TJ/SE - New owner problems
Paul, what'd your valve job cost you? And what symptoms were you having
that led you to have it done? I know my valve seats are shot from how
my '97 TJ's 4.0L engine is starting to stumble and get more and more
'43' codes. I just got a quote of $413 for the work on the head itself
which includes new hardened intake and exhaust seats.
Jerry
pbarton wrote:
> Hi Sausage Cat,
> Congrads, I own a 97 also!! I would question putting carpet in a jeep
> if you off road or mud alot....less cleaning out and you can drain it
> easier. Check the engine mounts to make sure they are alright. Check the
> Transfercase pad between the skid plate and the transfercase. How many
> miles on this jeep? Is it a standard or auto. Over Christmas I just put a
> 4 inch lift in mine, prior to that it was a valve job. I think next will be
> a shorter shaft for the transfercase and a slip yoke elminator (less
> vibrations). Oh, yes, put a tuffy console in it.
> thanks,
> paul
>
> pbarton@houston.rr.com
>
>
>
>
>
> "Sausage Cat" <SausageCat@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1104476995.883801.194530@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>
>>Thank You all for the advice. Now I need some product recommendation:
>>
>>Carpet
>>
>>PROLINE CARPET SET TJ-CHARCOAL 66013
>>or
>>DELUXE CARPET SET 97+ TJ GRAY 79702-15
>>Thank You.
>>
>>Sausage Cat
>>97 Jeep TJ/SE
>>
>
>
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
that led you to have it done? I know my valve seats are shot from how
my '97 TJ's 4.0L engine is starting to stumble and get more and more
'43' codes. I just got a quote of $413 for the work on the head itself
which includes new hardened intake and exhaust seats.
Jerry
pbarton wrote:
> Hi Sausage Cat,
> Congrads, I own a 97 also!! I would question putting carpet in a jeep
> if you off road or mud alot....less cleaning out and you can drain it
> easier. Check the engine mounts to make sure they are alright. Check the
> Transfercase pad between the skid plate and the transfercase. How many
> miles on this jeep? Is it a standard or auto. Over Christmas I just put a
> 4 inch lift in mine, prior to that it was a valve job. I think next will be
> a shorter shaft for the transfercase and a slip yoke elminator (less
> vibrations). Oh, yes, put a tuffy console in it.
> thanks,
> paul
>
> pbarton@houston.rr.com
>
>
>
>
>
> "Sausage Cat" <SausageCat@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1104476995.883801.194530@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>
>>Thank You all for the advice. Now I need some product recommendation:
>>
>>Carpet
>>
>>PROLINE CARPET SET TJ-CHARCOAL 66013
>>or
>>DELUXE CARPET SET 97+ TJ GRAY 79702-15
>>Thank You.
>>
>>Sausage Cat
>>97 Jeep TJ/SE
>>
>
>
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
01-01-2005, 01:59 PM
#20
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Re: 97 TJ/SE - New owner problems
Hi Jerry,
It was done summer '04. I took the head to a local machine shop. They
did the cleaning and even milled down the head (a little warped). I bought
the upper engine seal kit from O'Rielly for about $70. It came with the
valve seals that I just gave the machine shop. The machine shop charged
$150. I took the head off myself. It was not that hard, however, be sure
to label all your wires at both ends. I was told by mechanics in the
industry not to pay over $200 for a valve job.
The reason I did it was the following:
I had just purchased the jeep (used with 97000) and after about 200
miles the check engine light came on. I had a local shop look at it and
they indicated I had about 70~90psi in the cylinder closest to the front
bumper, all the others were fine. They quoted me about 1,500~1,700 for a
valve job. I told them to button it up and I would think about it. I went
out and purchased a compression gauge and started reseach on what it would
take for me to do this. The last time I went this deep into an engine was
High School shop class, about 30 years ago, and that was a 1 cylinder
engine. It was not really a big deal to change it out and it worked the
first time I put it all back together.
good luck,
paul
97TJ 4.0L
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:gzgBd.2742$232.1696@fed1read05...
> Paul, what'd your valve job cost you? And what symptoms were you having
> that led you to have it done? I know my valve seats are shot from how my
> '97 TJ's 4.0L engine is starting to stumble and get more and more '43'
> codes. I just got a quote of $413 for the work on the head itself which
> includes new hardened intake and exhaust seats.
>
> Jerry
>
> pbarton wrote:
>> Hi Sausage Cat,
>> Congrads, I own a 97 also!! I would question putting carpet in a
>> jeep if you off road or mud alot....less cleaning out and you can drain
>> it easier. Check the engine mounts to make sure they are alright. Check
>> the Transfercase pad between the skid plate and the transfercase. How
>> many miles on this jeep? Is it a standard or auto. Over Christmas I
>> just put a 4 inch lift in mine, prior to that it was a valve job. I
>> think next will be a shorter shaft for the transfercase and a slip yoke
>> elminator (less vibrations). Oh, yes, put a tuffy console in it.
>> thanks,
>> paul
>>
>> pbarton@houston.rr.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Sausage Cat" <SausageCat@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1104476995.883801.194530@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>>Thank You all for the advice. Now I need some product recommendation:
>>>
>>>Carpet
>>>
>>>PROLINE CARPET SET TJ-CHARCOAL 66013
>>>or
>>>DELUXE CARPET SET 97+ TJ GRAY 79702-15
>>>Thank You.
>>>
>>>Sausage Cat
>>>97 Jeep TJ/SE
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
It was done summer '04. I took the head to a local machine shop. They
did the cleaning and even milled down the head (a little warped). I bought
the upper engine seal kit from O'Rielly for about $70. It came with the
valve seals that I just gave the machine shop. The machine shop charged
$150. I took the head off myself. It was not that hard, however, be sure
to label all your wires at both ends. I was told by mechanics in the
industry not to pay over $200 for a valve job.
The reason I did it was the following:
I had just purchased the jeep (used with 97000) and after about 200
miles the check engine light came on. I had a local shop look at it and
they indicated I had about 70~90psi in the cylinder closest to the front
bumper, all the others were fine. They quoted me about 1,500~1,700 for a
valve job. I told them to button it up and I would think about it. I went
out and purchased a compression gauge and started reseach on what it would
take for me to do this. The last time I went this deep into an engine was
High School shop class, about 30 years ago, and that was a 1 cylinder
engine. It was not really a big deal to change it out and it worked the
first time I put it all back together.
good luck,
paul
97TJ 4.0L
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:gzgBd.2742$232.1696@fed1read05...
> Paul, what'd your valve job cost you? And what symptoms were you having
> that led you to have it done? I know my valve seats are shot from how my
> '97 TJ's 4.0L engine is starting to stumble and get more and more '43'
> codes. I just got a quote of $413 for the work on the head itself which
> includes new hardened intake and exhaust seats.
>
> Jerry
>
> pbarton wrote:
>> Hi Sausage Cat,
>> Congrads, I own a 97 also!! I would question putting carpet in a
>> jeep if you off road or mud alot....less cleaning out and you can drain
>> it easier. Check the engine mounts to make sure they are alright. Check
>> the Transfercase pad between the skid plate and the transfercase. How
>> many miles on this jeep? Is it a standard or auto. Over Christmas I
>> just put a 4 inch lift in mine, prior to that it was a valve job. I
>> think next will be a shorter shaft for the transfercase and a slip yoke
>> elminator (less vibrations). Oh, yes, put a tuffy console in it.
>> thanks,
>> paul
>>
>> pbarton@houston.rr.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Sausage Cat" <SausageCat@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1104476995.883801.194530@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>>Thank You all for the advice. Now I need some product recommendation:
>>>
>>>Carpet
>>>
>>>PROLINE CARPET SET TJ-CHARCOAL 66013
>>>or
>>>DELUXE CARPET SET 97+ TJ GRAY 79702-15
>>>Thank You.
>>>
>>>Sausage Cat
>>>97 Jeep TJ/SE
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/