97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
01-06-2006, 09:59 AM
#51
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Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
Nicely done, billy ray. Very helpful indeed.
billy ray wrote:
> CPS location for '96 XJ
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2115943693
>
> Engine compartment grounds ('02 WJ typical)
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2115943693
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43BDB654.1A107BF5@sympatico.ca...
>
>>There are two CPS's. The crank position sensor and the cam one in the
>>distributor.
>>
>>The ground strap 'could' be a wire mesh cable from the back of the
>>engine up to the firewall on the 6 and there could be one down one one
>>of the engine mounts. The other one would be to just follow the
>>negative cable from the battery to see where it goes. One will be to
>>the engine block and maybe the other will go to a fender or firewall.
>>This one is the suspected dirty one at the fender end. The mesh one
>>gets bad connections too and it rots out pretty fast in the rust belt.
>>
>>Mike
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>>msgrace wrote:
>>
>>>I don't want to appear stupid here but I am a woman trying to work on her
>>>own Jeep to save money while my husband is over in Iraq, but what does
>>>cps
>>>stand for? I am looking in my Haynes repair manuel and the only thing I
>>>can think of would be camshaft position sensor would that be what you are
>>>talking about? I use my mechanic when there is a part that I can't get
>>>to
>>>myself to change.
>>>Is there a fuel relay switch on the Jeep, it is a 2wd 6cyl and I was
>>>wondering if that was going out and possibly causing the problem. Also,
>>>where in the heck is that ground strap located!! I tried finding it and
>>>I
>>>could not locate it. Again thanks to everyone with suggestions I am going
>>>to try them all till I solve the problem.
>>>
>>>Grace
>
>
>
01-06-2006, 09:59 AM
#52
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Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
Nicely done, billy ray. Very helpful indeed.
billy ray wrote:
> CPS location for '96 XJ
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2115943693
>
> Engine compartment grounds ('02 WJ typical)
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2115943693
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43BDB654.1A107BF5@sympatico.ca...
>
>>There are two CPS's. The crank position sensor and the cam one in the
>>distributor.
>>
>>The ground strap 'could' be a wire mesh cable from the back of the
>>engine up to the firewall on the 6 and there could be one down one one
>>of the engine mounts. The other one would be to just follow the
>>negative cable from the battery to see where it goes. One will be to
>>the engine block and maybe the other will go to a fender or firewall.
>>This one is the suspected dirty one at the fender end. The mesh one
>>gets bad connections too and it rots out pretty fast in the rust belt.
>>
>>Mike
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>>msgrace wrote:
>>
>>>I don't want to appear stupid here but I am a woman trying to work on her
>>>own Jeep to save money while my husband is over in Iraq, but what does
>>>cps
>>>stand for? I am looking in my Haynes repair manuel and the only thing I
>>>can think of would be camshaft position sensor would that be what you are
>>>talking about? I use my mechanic when there is a part that I can't get
>>>to
>>>myself to change.
>>>Is there a fuel relay switch on the Jeep, it is a 2wd 6cyl and I was
>>>wondering if that was going out and possibly causing the problem. Also,
>>>where in the heck is that ground strap located!! I tried finding it and
>>>I
>>>could not locate it. Again thanks to everyone with suggestions I am going
>>>to try them all till I solve the problem.
>>>
>>>Grace
>
>
>
01-06-2006, 10:55 AM
#53
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Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
My apologies, , as others have posted (with pics too) there are 2 sensors,
one on the crank the other in the distributor. When the cps failed on my 93
xj, I had the vehicle in and out of the shop for them to try and figure out
why it would just die for no reason (this happened many times at highway
speed), they checked everything and went through the codes about 5 times (at
least once per visit), it was a toss up between the fuel pump and the crank
position sensor, the mechanic decided that since the vehicle would always
start right back up that changing the cps would be the better of the two
choices. When the cps goes it can cause different things to happen, from
no starting to dying out at speeds.
Yes there are a couple fuel pump relays, one relay for the pump and one for
the auto shut down, I would try connecting a jumper cable from the engine
block to the negative battery terminal, try connecting to the block at the
air-conditioning compressor or the power steering pump, just becareful where
you lay the cable while you try cranking the engine, don't want the fan
cutting the cable.
Next time you talk or email your hubby tell him thanks for doing what he's
doing.
Snow...
"msgrace" <gracemrs@***.net> wrote in message
news:1ed98426d9f401ca5e887633f7246ad4@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
>I don't want to appear stupid here but I am a woman trying to work on her
> own Jeep to save money while my husband is over in Iraq, but what does cps
> stand for? I am looking in my Haynes repair manuel and the only thing I
> can think of would be camshaft position sensor would that be what you are
> talking about? I use my mechanic when there is a part that I can't get to
> myself to change.
> Is there a fuel relay switch on the Jeep, it is a 2wd 6cyl and I was
> wondering if that was going out and possibly causing the problem. Also,
> where in the heck is that ground strap located!! I tried finding it and I
> could not locate it. Again thanks to everyone with suggestions I am going
> to try them all till I solve the problem.
>
> Grace
>
one on the crank the other in the distributor. When the cps failed on my 93
xj, I had the vehicle in and out of the shop for them to try and figure out
why it would just die for no reason (this happened many times at highway
speed), they checked everything and went through the codes about 5 times (at
least once per visit), it was a toss up between the fuel pump and the crank
position sensor, the mechanic decided that since the vehicle would always
start right back up that changing the cps would be the better of the two
choices. When the cps goes it can cause different things to happen, from
no starting to dying out at speeds.
Yes there are a couple fuel pump relays, one relay for the pump and one for
the auto shut down, I would try connecting a jumper cable from the engine
block to the negative battery terminal, try connecting to the block at the
air-conditioning compressor or the power steering pump, just becareful where
you lay the cable while you try cranking the engine, don't want the fan
cutting the cable.
Next time you talk or email your hubby tell him thanks for doing what he's
doing.
Snow...
"msgrace" <gracemrs@***.net> wrote in message
news:1ed98426d9f401ca5e887633f7246ad4@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
>I don't want to appear stupid here but I am a woman trying to work on her
> own Jeep to save money while my husband is over in Iraq, but what does cps
> stand for? I am looking in my Haynes repair manuel and the only thing I
> can think of would be camshaft position sensor would that be what you are
> talking about? I use my mechanic when there is a part that I can't get to
> myself to change.
> Is there a fuel relay switch on the Jeep, it is a 2wd 6cyl and I was
> wondering if that was going out and possibly causing the problem. Also,
> where in the heck is that ground strap located!! I tried finding it and I
> could not locate it. Again thanks to everyone with suggestions I am going
> to try them all till I solve the problem.
>
> Grace
>
01-06-2006, 10:55 AM
#54
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Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
My apologies, , as others have posted (with pics too) there are 2 sensors,
one on the crank the other in the distributor. When the cps failed on my 93
xj, I had the vehicle in and out of the shop for them to try and figure out
why it would just die for no reason (this happened many times at highway
speed), they checked everything and went through the codes about 5 times (at
least once per visit), it was a toss up between the fuel pump and the crank
position sensor, the mechanic decided that since the vehicle would always
start right back up that changing the cps would be the better of the two
choices. When the cps goes it can cause different things to happen, from
no starting to dying out at speeds.
Yes there are a couple fuel pump relays, one relay for the pump and one for
the auto shut down, I would try connecting a jumper cable from the engine
block to the negative battery terminal, try connecting to the block at the
air-conditioning compressor or the power steering pump, just becareful where
you lay the cable while you try cranking the engine, don't want the fan
cutting the cable.
Next time you talk or email your hubby tell him thanks for doing what he's
doing.
Snow...
"msgrace" <gracemrs@***.net> wrote in message
news:1ed98426d9f401ca5e887633f7246ad4@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
>I don't want to appear stupid here but I am a woman trying to work on her
> own Jeep to save money while my husband is over in Iraq, but what does cps
> stand for? I am looking in my Haynes repair manuel and the only thing I
> can think of would be camshaft position sensor would that be what you are
> talking about? I use my mechanic when there is a part that I can't get to
> myself to change.
> Is there a fuel relay switch on the Jeep, it is a 2wd 6cyl and I was
> wondering if that was going out and possibly causing the problem. Also,
> where in the heck is that ground strap located!! I tried finding it and I
> could not locate it. Again thanks to everyone with suggestions I am going
> to try them all till I solve the problem.
>
> Grace
>
one on the crank the other in the distributor. When the cps failed on my 93
xj, I had the vehicle in and out of the shop for them to try and figure out
why it would just die for no reason (this happened many times at highway
speed), they checked everything and went through the codes about 5 times (at
least once per visit), it was a toss up between the fuel pump and the crank
position sensor, the mechanic decided that since the vehicle would always
start right back up that changing the cps would be the better of the two
choices. When the cps goes it can cause different things to happen, from
no starting to dying out at speeds.
Yes there are a couple fuel pump relays, one relay for the pump and one for
the auto shut down, I would try connecting a jumper cable from the engine
block to the negative battery terminal, try connecting to the block at the
air-conditioning compressor or the power steering pump, just becareful where
you lay the cable while you try cranking the engine, don't want the fan
cutting the cable.
Next time you talk or email your hubby tell him thanks for doing what he's
doing.
Snow...
"msgrace" <gracemrs@***.net> wrote in message
news:1ed98426d9f401ca5e887633f7246ad4@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
>I don't want to appear stupid here but I am a woman trying to work on her
> own Jeep to save money while my husband is over in Iraq, but what does cps
> stand for? I am looking in my Haynes repair manuel and the only thing I
> can think of would be camshaft position sensor would that be what you are
> talking about? I use my mechanic when there is a part that I can't get to
> myself to change.
> Is there a fuel relay switch on the Jeep, it is a 2wd 6cyl and I was
> wondering if that was going out and possibly causing the problem. Also,
> where in the heck is that ground strap located!! I tried finding it and I
> could not locate it. Again thanks to everyone with suggestions I am going
> to try them all till I solve the problem.
>
> Grace
>
01-06-2006, 10:55 AM
#55
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Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
My apologies, , as others have posted (with pics too) there are 2 sensors,
one on the crank the other in the distributor. When the cps failed on my 93
xj, I had the vehicle in and out of the shop for them to try and figure out
why it would just die for no reason (this happened many times at highway
speed), they checked everything and went through the codes about 5 times (at
least once per visit), it was a toss up between the fuel pump and the crank
position sensor, the mechanic decided that since the vehicle would always
start right back up that changing the cps would be the better of the two
choices. When the cps goes it can cause different things to happen, from
no starting to dying out at speeds.
Yes there are a couple fuel pump relays, one relay for the pump and one for
the auto shut down, I would try connecting a jumper cable from the engine
block to the negative battery terminal, try connecting to the block at the
air-conditioning compressor or the power steering pump, just becareful where
you lay the cable while you try cranking the engine, don't want the fan
cutting the cable.
Next time you talk or email your hubby tell him thanks for doing what he's
doing.
Snow...
"msgrace" <gracemrs@***.net> wrote in message
news:1ed98426d9f401ca5e887633f7246ad4@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
>I don't want to appear stupid here but I am a woman trying to work on her
> own Jeep to save money while my husband is over in Iraq, but what does cps
> stand for? I am looking in my Haynes repair manuel and the only thing I
> can think of would be camshaft position sensor would that be what you are
> talking about? I use my mechanic when there is a part that I can't get to
> myself to change.
> Is there a fuel relay switch on the Jeep, it is a 2wd 6cyl and I was
> wondering if that was going out and possibly causing the problem. Also,
> where in the heck is that ground strap located!! I tried finding it and I
> could not locate it. Again thanks to everyone with suggestions I am going
> to try them all till I solve the problem.
>
> Grace
>
one on the crank the other in the distributor. When the cps failed on my 93
xj, I had the vehicle in and out of the shop for them to try and figure out
why it would just die for no reason (this happened many times at highway
speed), they checked everything and went through the codes about 5 times (at
least once per visit), it was a toss up between the fuel pump and the crank
position sensor, the mechanic decided that since the vehicle would always
start right back up that changing the cps would be the better of the two
choices. When the cps goes it can cause different things to happen, from
no starting to dying out at speeds.
Yes there are a couple fuel pump relays, one relay for the pump and one for
the auto shut down, I would try connecting a jumper cable from the engine
block to the negative battery terminal, try connecting to the block at the
air-conditioning compressor or the power steering pump, just becareful where
you lay the cable while you try cranking the engine, don't want the fan
cutting the cable.
Next time you talk or email your hubby tell him thanks for doing what he's
doing.
Snow...
"msgrace" <gracemrs@***.net> wrote in message
news:1ed98426d9f401ca5e887633f7246ad4@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
>I don't want to appear stupid here but I am a woman trying to work on her
> own Jeep to save money while my husband is over in Iraq, but what does cps
> stand for? I am looking in my Haynes repair manuel and the only thing I
> can think of would be camshaft position sensor would that be what you are
> talking about? I use my mechanic when there is a part that I can't get to
> myself to change.
> Is there a fuel relay switch on the Jeep, it is a 2wd 6cyl and I was
> wondering if that was going out and possibly causing the problem. Also,
> where in the heck is that ground strap located!! I tried finding it and I
> could not locate it. Again thanks to everyone with suggestions I am going
> to try them all till I solve the problem.
>
> Grace
>
01-06-2006, 12:39 PM
#56
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Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
Actually I see I listed the same link twice. Regular users to Imagestation
would know to look at the "other albums" link at the bottom of the page but
for the rest of us here is the CPS link.
http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2119338336
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:dpm01j$qh5$1@reader2.panix.com...
>
> Nicely done, billy ray. Very helpful indeed.
>
>
> billy ray wrote:
>> CPS location for '96 XJ
>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2115943693
>>
>> Engine compartment grounds ('02 WJ typical)
>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2115943693
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:43BDB654.1A107BF5@sympatico.ca...
>>
>>>There are two CPS's. The crank position sensor and the cam one in the
>>>distributor.
>>>
>>>The ground strap 'could' be a wire mesh cable from the back of the
>>>engine up to the firewall on the 6 and there could be one down one one
>>>of the engine mounts. The other one would be to just follow the
>>>negative cable from the battery to see where it goes. One will be to
>>>the engine block and maybe the other will go to a fender or firewall.
>>>This one is the suspected dirty one at the fender end. The mesh one
>>>gets bad connections too and it rots out pretty fast in the rust belt.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>>msgrace wrote:
>>>
>>>>I don't want to appear stupid here but I am a woman trying to work on
>>>>her
>>>>own Jeep to save money while my husband is over in Iraq, but what does
>>>>cps
>>>>stand for? I am looking in my Haynes repair manuel and the only thing I
>>>>can think of would be camshaft position sensor would that be what you
>>>>are
>>>>talking about? I use my mechanic when there is a part that I can't get
>>>>to
>>>>myself to change.
>>>>Is there a fuel relay switch on the Jeep, it is a 2wd 6cyl and I was
>>>>wondering if that was going out and possibly causing the problem. Also,
>>>>where in the heck is that ground strap located!! I tried finding it and
>>>>I
>>>>could not locate it. Again thanks to everyone with suggestions I am
>>>>going
>>>>to try them all till I solve the problem.
>>>>
>>>>Grace
>>
>>
would know to look at the "other albums" link at the bottom of the page but
for the rest of us here is the CPS link.
http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2119338336
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:dpm01j$qh5$1@reader2.panix.com...
>
> Nicely done, billy ray. Very helpful indeed.
>
>
> billy ray wrote:
>> CPS location for '96 XJ
>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2115943693
>>
>> Engine compartment grounds ('02 WJ typical)
>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2115943693
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:43BDB654.1A107BF5@sympatico.ca...
>>
>>>There are two CPS's. The crank position sensor and the cam one in the
>>>distributor.
>>>
>>>The ground strap 'could' be a wire mesh cable from the back of the
>>>engine up to the firewall on the 6 and there could be one down one one
>>>of the engine mounts. The other one would be to just follow the
>>>negative cable from the battery to see where it goes. One will be to
>>>the engine block and maybe the other will go to a fender or firewall.
>>>This one is the suspected dirty one at the fender end. The mesh one
>>>gets bad connections too and it rots out pretty fast in the rust belt.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>>msgrace wrote:
>>>
>>>>I don't want to appear stupid here but I am a woman trying to work on
>>>>her
>>>>own Jeep to save money while my husband is over in Iraq, but what does
>>>>cps
>>>>stand for? I am looking in my Haynes repair manuel and the only thing I
>>>>can think of would be camshaft position sensor would that be what you
>>>>are
>>>>talking about? I use my mechanic when there is a part that I can't get
>>>>to
>>>>myself to change.
>>>>Is there a fuel relay switch on the Jeep, it is a 2wd 6cyl and I was
>>>>wondering if that was going out and possibly causing the problem. Also,
>>>>where in the heck is that ground strap located!! I tried finding it and
>>>>I
>>>>could not locate it. Again thanks to everyone with suggestions I am
>>>>going
>>>>to try them all till I solve the problem.
>>>>
>>>>Grace
>>
>>
01-06-2006, 12:39 PM
#57
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
Actually I see I listed the same link twice. Regular users to Imagestation
would know to look at the "other albums" link at the bottom of the page but
for the rest of us here is the CPS link.
http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2119338336
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:dpm01j$qh5$1@reader2.panix.com...
>
> Nicely done, billy ray. Very helpful indeed.
>
>
> billy ray wrote:
>> CPS location for '96 XJ
>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2115943693
>>
>> Engine compartment grounds ('02 WJ typical)
>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2115943693
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:43BDB654.1A107BF5@sympatico.ca...
>>
>>>There are two CPS's. The crank position sensor and the cam one in the
>>>distributor.
>>>
>>>The ground strap 'could' be a wire mesh cable from the back of the
>>>engine up to the firewall on the 6 and there could be one down one one
>>>of the engine mounts. The other one would be to just follow the
>>>negative cable from the battery to see where it goes. One will be to
>>>the engine block and maybe the other will go to a fender or firewall.
>>>This one is the suspected dirty one at the fender end. The mesh one
>>>gets bad connections too and it rots out pretty fast in the rust belt.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>>msgrace wrote:
>>>
>>>>I don't want to appear stupid here but I am a woman trying to work on
>>>>her
>>>>own Jeep to save money while my husband is over in Iraq, but what does
>>>>cps
>>>>stand for? I am looking in my Haynes repair manuel and the only thing I
>>>>can think of would be camshaft position sensor would that be what you
>>>>are
>>>>talking about? I use my mechanic when there is a part that I can't get
>>>>to
>>>>myself to change.
>>>>Is there a fuel relay switch on the Jeep, it is a 2wd 6cyl and I was
>>>>wondering if that was going out and possibly causing the problem. Also,
>>>>where in the heck is that ground strap located!! I tried finding it and
>>>>I
>>>>could not locate it. Again thanks to everyone with suggestions I am
>>>>going
>>>>to try them all till I solve the problem.
>>>>
>>>>Grace
>>
>>
would know to look at the "other albums" link at the bottom of the page but
for the rest of us here is the CPS link.
http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2119338336
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:dpm01j$qh5$1@reader2.panix.com...
>
> Nicely done, billy ray. Very helpful indeed.
>
>
> billy ray wrote:
>> CPS location for '96 XJ
>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2115943693
>>
>> Engine compartment grounds ('02 WJ typical)
>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2115943693
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:43BDB654.1A107BF5@sympatico.ca...
>>
>>>There are two CPS's. The crank position sensor and the cam one in the
>>>distributor.
>>>
>>>The ground strap 'could' be a wire mesh cable from the back of the
>>>engine up to the firewall on the 6 and there could be one down one one
>>>of the engine mounts. The other one would be to just follow the
>>>negative cable from the battery to see where it goes. One will be to
>>>the engine block and maybe the other will go to a fender or firewall.
>>>This one is the suspected dirty one at the fender end. The mesh one
>>>gets bad connections too and it rots out pretty fast in the rust belt.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>>msgrace wrote:
>>>
>>>>I don't want to appear stupid here but I am a woman trying to work on
>>>>her
>>>>own Jeep to save money while my husband is over in Iraq, but what does
>>>>cps
>>>>stand for? I am looking in my Haynes repair manuel and the only thing I
>>>>can think of would be camshaft position sensor would that be what you
>>>>are
>>>>talking about? I use my mechanic when there is a part that I can't get
>>>>to
>>>>myself to change.
>>>>Is there a fuel relay switch on the Jeep, it is a 2wd 6cyl and I was
>>>>wondering if that was going out and possibly causing the problem. Also,
>>>>where in the heck is that ground strap located!! I tried finding it and
>>>>I
>>>>could not locate it. Again thanks to everyone with suggestions I am
>>>>going
>>>>to try them all till I solve the problem.
>>>>
>>>>Grace
>>
>>
01-06-2006, 12:39 PM
#58
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
Actually I see I listed the same link twice. Regular users to Imagestation
would know to look at the "other albums" link at the bottom of the page but
for the rest of us here is the CPS link.
http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2119338336
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:dpm01j$qh5$1@reader2.panix.com...
>
> Nicely done, billy ray. Very helpful indeed.
>
>
> billy ray wrote:
>> CPS location for '96 XJ
>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2115943693
>>
>> Engine compartment grounds ('02 WJ typical)
>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2115943693
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:43BDB654.1A107BF5@sympatico.ca...
>>
>>>There are two CPS's. The crank position sensor and the cam one in the
>>>distributor.
>>>
>>>The ground strap 'could' be a wire mesh cable from the back of the
>>>engine up to the firewall on the 6 and there could be one down one one
>>>of the engine mounts. The other one would be to just follow the
>>>negative cable from the battery to see where it goes. One will be to
>>>the engine block and maybe the other will go to a fender or firewall.
>>>This one is the suspected dirty one at the fender end. The mesh one
>>>gets bad connections too and it rots out pretty fast in the rust belt.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>>msgrace wrote:
>>>
>>>>I don't want to appear stupid here but I am a woman trying to work on
>>>>her
>>>>own Jeep to save money while my husband is over in Iraq, but what does
>>>>cps
>>>>stand for? I am looking in my Haynes repair manuel and the only thing I
>>>>can think of would be camshaft position sensor would that be what you
>>>>are
>>>>talking about? I use my mechanic when there is a part that I can't get
>>>>to
>>>>myself to change.
>>>>Is there a fuel relay switch on the Jeep, it is a 2wd 6cyl and I was
>>>>wondering if that was going out and possibly causing the problem. Also,
>>>>where in the heck is that ground strap located!! I tried finding it and
>>>>I
>>>>could not locate it. Again thanks to everyone with suggestions I am
>>>>going
>>>>to try them all till I solve the problem.
>>>>
>>>>Grace
>>
>>
would know to look at the "other albums" link at the bottom of the page but
for the rest of us here is the CPS link.
http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2119338336
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:dpm01j$qh5$1@reader2.panix.com...
>
> Nicely done, billy ray. Very helpful indeed.
>
>
> billy ray wrote:
>> CPS location for '96 XJ
>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2115943693
>>
>> Engine compartment grounds ('02 WJ typical)
>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2115943693
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:43BDB654.1A107BF5@sympatico.ca...
>>
>>>There are two CPS's. The crank position sensor and the cam one in the
>>>distributor.
>>>
>>>The ground strap 'could' be a wire mesh cable from the back of the
>>>engine up to the firewall on the 6 and there could be one down one one
>>>of the engine mounts. The other one would be to just follow the
>>>negative cable from the battery to see where it goes. One will be to
>>>the engine block and maybe the other will go to a fender or firewall.
>>>This one is the suspected dirty one at the fender end. The mesh one
>>>gets bad connections too and it rots out pretty fast in the rust belt.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>>msgrace wrote:
>>>
>>>>I don't want to appear stupid here but I am a woman trying to work on
>>>>her
>>>>own Jeep to save money while my husband is over in Iraq, but what does
>>>>cps
>>>>stand for? I am looking in my Haynes repair manuel and the only thing I
>>>>can think of would be camshaft position sensor would that be what you
>>>>are
>>>>talking about? I use my mechanic when there is a part that I can't get
>>>>to
>>>>myself to change.
>>>>Is there a fuel relay switch on the Jeep, it is a 2wd 6cyl and I was
>>>>wondering if that was going out and possibly causing the problem. Also,
>>>>where in the heck is that ground strap located!! I tried finding it and
>>>>I
>>>>could not locate it. Again thanks to everyone with suggestions I am
>>>>going
>>>>to try them all till I solve the problem.
>>>>
>>>>Grace
>>
>>
01-08-2006, 10:41 AM
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Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
did u check for fault coedes???
Dave Milne wrote:
> Have you removed the petrol tank cap and listened for a hissing noise
> indicating it is vaccuming ?
>
> Alternatively, it may be a blocked return to the fuel tank or a duff
> pressure regulator valve. Do you hear a funny noise from the fuel pump
> trying to run against a blockage ? It sounds a bit like a wailing noise.
>
> Dave
>
> "msgrace" <gracemrs@***.net> wrote in message
> news:06332ab120e2cf046d6bc3cc701cc59d@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
> > At times it will just cut out dead and sometimes it will start right back
> > up and other times it take a few minutes before it starts back up. Then
> > if it doesn't kill on me it will sputter and try to kill and I have to
> > keep pumping the gas peddal to keep it from killing, sometimes it works
> > sometimes it doesn't. Thanks for all the help everyone is giving me
> > because I am at my wits end.
> >
> > Grace
> >
Dave Milne wrote:
> Have you removed the petrol tank cap and listened for a hissing noise
> indicating it is vaccuming ?
>
> Alternatively, it may be a blocked return to the fuel tank or a duff
> pressure regulator valve. Do you hear a funny noise from the fuel pump
> trying to run against a blockage ? It sounds a bit like a wailing noise.
>
> Dave
>
> "msgrace" <gracemrs@***.net> wrote in message
> news:06332ab120e2cf046d6bc3cc701cc59d@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
> > At times it will just cut out dead and sometimes it will start right back
> > up and other times it take a few minutes before it starts back up. Then
> > if it doesn't kill on me it will sputter and try to kill and I have to
> > keep pumping the gas peddal to keep it from killing, sometimes it works
> > sometimes it doesn't. Thanks for all the help everyone is giving me
> > because I am at my wits end.
> >
> > Grace
> >
01-08-2006, 10:41 AM
#60
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Posts: n/a
Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
did u check for fault coedes???
Dave Milne wrote:
> Have you removed the petrol tank cap and listened for a hissing noise
> indicating it is vaccuming ?
>
> Alternatively, it may be a blocked return to the fuel tank or a duff
> pressure regulator valve. Do you hear a funny noise from the fuel pump
> trying to run against a blockage ? It sounds a bit like a wailing noise.
>
> Dave
>
> "msgrace" <gracemrs@***.net> wrote in message
> news:06332ab120e2cf046d6bc3cc701cc59d@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
> > At times it will just cut out dead and sometimes it will start right back
> > up and other times it take a few minutes before it starts back up. Then
> > if it doesn't kill on me it will sputter and try to kill and I have to
> > keep pumping the gas peddal to keep it from killing, sometimes it works
> > sometimes it doesn't. Thanks for all the help everyone is giving me
> > because I am at my wits end.
> >
> > Grace
> >
Dave Milne wrote:
> Have you removed the petrol tank cap and listened for a hissing noise
> indicating it is vaccuming ?
>
> Alternatively, it may be a blocked return to the fuel tank or a duff
> pressure regulator valve. Do you hear a funny noise from the fuel pump
> trying to run against a blockage ? It sounds a bit like a wailing noise.
>
> Dave
>
> "msgrace" <gracemrs@***.net> wrote in message
> news:06332ab120e2cf046d6bc3cc701cc59d@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
> > At times it will just cut out dead and sometimes it will start right back
> > up and other times it take a few minutes before it starts back up. Then
> > if it doesn't kill on me it will sputter and try to kill and I have to
> > keep pumping the gas peddal to keep it from killing, sometimes it works
> > sometimes it doesn't. Thanks for all the help everyone is giving me
> > because I am at my wits end.
> >
> > Grace
> >