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msgrace 01-04-2006 08:00 PM

97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 
I have change in the past week the ignition coil, crankshaft position
senor, catalytic converter,oxygen sensorlocated on the converter, full
tune up and the truck ran fine for a few days and today it started killing
on me again. When I started it first thing this morning it ran fine, but
when I started it at lunch time it killed on me twice before I could even
make it out of the parking lot and then going down the street it tried to
kill on me several time and had to ram on the gas pedal to keep it from
killing. It is not showing any codes and my mechanic and I are at a lose
as to what could be causing it, anyone else had similar problems?


JRK58@MSN.COM 01-04-2006 08:57 PM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 

Fuel pump? Have you checked pressure at the rail ?


JRK58@MSN.COM 01-04-2006 08:57 PM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 

Fuel pump? Have you checked pressure at the rail ?


JRK58@MSN.COM 01-04-2006 08:57 PM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 

Fuel pump? Have you checked pressure at the rail ?


msgrace 01-04-2006 09:26 PM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 
I forgot to put that the first thing that I did change was I put in a new
fuel pump and new fuel filter.


msgrace 01-04-2006 09:26 PM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 
I forgot to put that the first thing that I did change was I put in a new
fuel pump and new fuel filter.


msgrace 01-04-2006 09:26 PM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 
I forgot to put that the first thing that I did change was I put in a new
fuel pump and new fuel filter.


Jason Backshall 01-04-2006 11:49 PM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 
When you say 'kills' on you - I can only assume you mean it just cuts out
dead. Or does it splutter before slowly dying?

Could be the difference between electrical and fuel.

J.




"msgrace" <gracemrs@cox.net> wrote in message
news:8013e73dc4bdb25d452a7440eccf7680@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
>I have change in the past week the ignition coil, crankshaft position
> senor, catalytic converter,oxygen sensorlocated on the converter, full
> tune up and the truck ran fine for a few days and today it started killing
> on me again. When I started it first thing this morning it ran fine, but
> when I started it at lunch time it killed on me twice before I could even
> make it out of the parking lot and then going down the street it tried to
> kill on me several time and had to ram on the gas pedal to keep it from
> killing. It is not showing any codes and my mechanic and I are at a lose
> as to what could be causing it, anyone else had similar problems?
>




Jason Backshall 01-04-2006 11:49 PM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 
When you say 'kills' on you - I can only assume you mean it just cuts out
dead. Or does it splutter before slowly dying?

Could be the difference between electrical and fuel.

J.




"msgrace" <gracemrs@cox.net> wrote in message
news:8013e73dc4bdb25d452a7440eccf7680@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
>I have change in the past week the ignition coil, crankshaft position
> senor, catalytic converter,oxygen sensorlocated on the converter, full
> tune up and the truck ran fine for a few days and today it started killing
> on me again. When I started it first thing this morning it ran fine, but
> when I started it at lunch time it killed on me twice before I could even
> make it out of the parking lot and then going down the street it tried to
> kill on me several time and had to ram on the gas pedal to keep it from
> killing. It is not showing any codes and my mechanic and I are at a lose
> as to what could be causing it, anyone else had similar problems?
>




Jason Backshall 01-04-2006 11:49 PM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 
When you say 'kills' on you - I can only assume you mean it just cuts out
dead. Or does it splutter before slowly dying?

Could be the difference between electrical and fuel.

J.




"msgrace" <gracemrs@cox.net> wrote in message
news:8013e73dc4bdb25d452a7440eccf7680@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
>I have change in the past week the ignition coil, crankshaft position
> senor, catalytic converter,oxygen sensorlocated on the converter, full
> tune up and the truck ran fine for a few days and today it started killing
> on me again. When I started it first thing this morning it ran fine, but
> when I started it at lunch time it killed on me twice before I could even
> make it out of the parking lot and then going down the street it tried to
> kill on me several time and had to ram on the gas pedal to keep it from
> killing. It is not showing any codes and my mechanic and I are at a lose
> as to what could be causing it, anyone else had similar problems?
>




DaveW 01-05-2006 12:02 AM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 
msgrace wrote:
> I have change in the past week the ignition coil, crankshaft position
> senor, catalytic converter,oxygen sensorlocated on the converter, full
> tune up and the truck ran fine for a few days and today it started killing
> on me again. When I started it first thing this morning it ran fine, but
> when I started it at lunch time it killed on me twice before I could even
> make it out of the parking lot and then going down the street it tried to
> kill on me several time and had to ram on the gas pedal to keep it from
> killing. It is not showing any codes and my mechanic and I are at a lose
> as to what could be causing it, anyone else had similar problems?
>



Before Mike suggests it, have you checked out your ground strap? This is
the braided cable that goes from the firewall to the engine block. If
the connection is iffy, it can cause all kinds of weird problems.

Best Regards,

DAve

DaveW 01-05-2006 12:02 AM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 
msgrace wrote:
> I have change in the past week the ignition coil, crankshaft position
> senor, catalytic converter,oxygen sensorlocated on the converter, full
> tune up and the truck ran fine for a few days and today it started killing
> on me again. When I started it first thing this morning it ran fine, but
> when I started it at lunch time it killed on me twice before I could even
> make it out of the parking lot and then going down the street it tried to
> kill on me several time and had to ram on the gas pedal to keep it from
> killing. It is not showing any codes and my mechanic and I are at a lose
> as to what could be causing it, anyone else had similar problems?
>



Before Mike suggests it, have you checked out your ground strap? This is
the braided cable that goes from the firewall to the engine block. If
the connection is iffy, it can cause all kinds of weird problems.

Best Regards,

DAve

DaveW 01-05-2006 12:02 AM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 
msgrace wrote:
> I have change in the past week the ignition coil, crankshaft position
> senor, catalytic converter,oxygen sensorlocated on the converter, full
> tune up and the truck ran fine for a few days and today it started killing
> on me again. When I started it first thing this morning it ran fine, but
> when I started it at lunch time it killed on me twice before I could even
> make it out of the parking lot and then going down the street it tried to
> kill on me several time and had to ram on the gas pedal to keep it from
> killing. It is not showing any codes and my mechanic and I are at a lose
> as to what could be causing it, anyone else had similar problems?
>



Before Mike suggests it, have you checked out your ground strap? This is
the braided cable that goes from the firewall to the engine block. If
the connection is iffy, it can cause all kinds of weird problems.

Best Regards,

DAve

msgrace 01-05-2006 05:51 AM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 
At times it will just cut out dead and sometimes it will start right back
up and other times it take a few minutes before it starts back up. Then
if it doesn't kill on me it will sputter and try to kill and I have to
keep pumping the gas peddal to keep it from killing, sometimes it works
sometimes it doesn't. Thanks for all the help everyone is giving me
because I am at my wits end.

Grace


msgrace 01-05-2006 05:51 AM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 
At times it will just cut out dead and sometimes it will start right back
up and other times it take a few minutes before it starts back up. Then
if it doesn't kill on me it will sputter and try to kill and I have to
keep pumping the gas peddal to keep it from killing, sometimes it works
sometimes it doesn't. Thanks for all the help everyone is giving me
because I am at my wits end.

Grace


msgrace 01-05-2006 05:51 AM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 
At times it will just cut out dead and sometimes it will start right back
up and other times it take a few minutes before it starts back up. Then
if it doesn't kill on me it will sputter and try to kill and I have to
keep pumping the gas peddal to keep it from killing, sometimes it works
sometimes it doesn't. Thanks for all the help everyone is giving me
because I am at my wits end.

Grace


Dave Milne 01-05-2006 05:55 AM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 
Have you removed the petrol tank cap and listened for a hissing noise
indicating it is vaccuming ?

Alternatively, it may be a blocked return to the fuel tank or a duff
pressure regulator valve. Do you hear a funny noise from the fuel pump
trying to run against a blockage ? It sounds a bit like a wailing noise.

Dave

"msgrace" <gracemrs@cox.net> wrote in message
news:06332ab120e2cf046d6bc3cc701cc59d@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
> At times it will just cut out dead and sometimes it will start right back
> up and other times it take a few minutes before it starts back up. Then
> if it doesn't kill on me it will sputter and try to kill and I have to
> keep pumping the gas peddal to keep it from killing, sometimes it works
> sometimes it doesn't. Thanks for all the help everyone is giving me
> because I am at my wits end.
>
> Grace
>




Dave Milne 01-05-2006 05:55 AM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 
Have you removed the petrol tank cap and listened for a hissing noise
indicating it is vaccuming ?

Alternatively, it may be a blocked return to the fuel tank or a duff
pressure regulator valve. Do you hear a funny noise from the fuel pump
trying to run against a blockage ? It sounds a bit like a wailing noise.

Dave

"msgrace" <gracemrs@cox.net> wrote in message
news:06332ab120e2cf046d6bc3cc701cc59d@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
> At times it will just cut out dead and sometimes it will start right back
> up and other times it take a few minutes before it starts back up. Then
> if it doesn't kill on me it will sputter and try to kill and I have to
> keep pumping the gas peddal to keep it from killing, sometimes it works
> sometimes it doesn't. Thanks for all the help everyone is giving me
> because I am at my wits end.
>
> Grace
>




Dave Milne 01-05-2006 05:55 AM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 
Have you removed the petrol tank cap and listened for a hissing noise
indicating it is vaccuming ?

Alternatively, it may be a blocked return to the fuel tank or a duff
pressure regulator valve. Do you hear a funny noise from the fuel pump
trying to run against a blockage ? It sounds a bit like a wailing noise.

Dave

"msgrace" <gracemrs@cox.net> wrote in message
news:06332ab120e2cf046d6bc3cc701cc59d@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
> At times it will just cut out dead and sometimes it will start right back
> up and other times it take a few minutes before it starts back up. Then
> if it doesn't kill on me it will sputter and try to kill and I have to
> keep pumping the gas peddal to keep it from killing, sometimes it works
> sometimes it doesn't. Thanks for all the help everyone is giving me
> because I am at my wits end.
>
> Grace
>




msgrace 01-05-2006 07:28 AM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 
My mechanic has checked for any type of vacucum leaks and there is no
hissing sounds or any funny sounds coming from anywhere on my Jeep. It is
so funny because the engine runs so smooth and quite the only sound I did
have was the busted cat. converter, but that has been changed so now no
sounds at all.


msgrace 01-05-2006 07:28 AM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 
My mechanic has checked for any type of vacucum leaks and there is no
hissing sounds or any funny sounds coming from anywhere on my Jeep. It is
so funny because the engine runs so smooth and quite the only sound I did
have was the busted cat. converter, but that has been changed so now no
sounds at all.


msgrace 01-05-2006 07:28 AM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 
My mechanic has checked for any type of vacucum leaks and there is no
hissing sounds or any funny sounds coming from anywhere on my Jeep. It is
so funny because the engine runs so smooth and quite the only sound I did
have was the busted cat. converter, but that has been changed so now no
sounds at all.


Snow 01-05-2006 08:11 AM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 
perhaps find a new mechanic, or buy a new car, since every fix that has been
suggested you claim has already been changed. That's a lot of $$$ to throw
at something without proper trouble shooting.

I would suggest your problem is one of 3 things, fuel pump heating up and
tripping the thermal fuse inside, which prevents it from turning your car
into a Molotov cocktail, hence the reason sometimes you have to wait to
restart it. Second it could be your CPS again, I had a mechanic running in
circles when my cps went years ago, no codes were captured and symptoms were
exactly the same. after 3 trips in with it he suggested changing the cps on
spec to see, if it didn't work then he would hook up a code reader with
volatile memory and swap jeeps with me two weeks so he code findout what was
happening. This was suggested after he wanted to change the fuel pump and
other parts, I kept saying it cant be that because it will do this right
away or it does this when it dies. (I forced him to do his trouble
shooting) And third is the engine ground strap, run a booster cable from
the engine block to the battery and see what happens.

Snow...


"msgrace" <gracemrs@cox.net> wrote in message
news:8013e73dc4bdb25d452a7440eccf7680@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
>I have change in the past week the ignition coil, crankshaft position
> senor, catalytic converter,oxygen sensorlocated on the converter, full
> tune up and the truck ran fine for a few days and today it started killing
> on me again. When I started it first thing this morning it ran fine, but
> when I started it at lunch time it killed on me twice before I could even
> make it out of the parking lot and then going down the street it tried to
> kill on me several time and had to ram on the gas pedal to keep it from
> killing. It is not showing any codes and my mechanic and I are at a lose
> as to what could be causing it, anyone else had similar problems?
>




Snow 01-05-2006 08:11 AM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 
perhaps find a new mechanic, or buy a new car, since every fix that has been
suggested you claim has already been changed. That's a lot of $$$ to throw
at something without proper trouble shooting.

I would suggest your problem is one of 3 things, fuel pump heating up and
tripping the thermal fuse inside, which prevents it from turning your car
into a Molotov cocktail, hence the reason sometimes you have to wait to
restart it. Second it could be your CPS again, I had a mechanic running in
circles when my cps went years ago, no codes were captured and symptoms were
exactly the same. after 3 trips in with it he suggested changing the cps on
spec to see, if it didn't work then he would hook up a code reader with
volatile memory and swap jeeps with me two weeks so he code findout what was
happening. This was suggested after he wanted to change the fuel pump and
other parts, I kept saying it cant be that because it will do this right
away or it does this when it dies. (I forced him to do his trouble
shooting) And third is the engine ground strap, run a booster cable from
the engine block to the battery and see what happens.

Snow...


"msgrace" <gracemrs@cox.net> wrote in message
news:8013e73dc4bdb25d452a7440eccf7680@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
>I have change in the past week the ignition coil, crankshaft position
> senor, catalytic converter,oxygen sensorlocated on the converter, full
> tune up and the truck ran fine for a few days and today it started killing
> on me again. When I started it first thing this morning it ran fine, but
> when I started it at lunch time it killed on me twice before I could even
> make it out of the parking lot and then going down the street it tried to
> kill on me several time and had to ram on the gas pedal to keep it from
> killing. It is not showing any codes and my mechanic and I are at a lose
> as to what could be causing it, anyone else had similar problems?
>




Snow 01-05-2006 08:11 AM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 
perhaps find a new mechanic, or buy a new car, since every fix that has been
suggested you claim has already been changed. That's a lot of $$$ to throw
at something without proper trouble shooting.

I would suggest your problem is one of 3 things, fuel pump heating up and
tripping the thermal fuse inside, which prevents it from turning your car
into a Molotov cocktail, hence the reason sometimes you have to wait to
restart it. Second it could be your CPS again, I had a mechanic running in
circles when my cps went years ago, no codes were captured and symptoms were
exactly the same. after 3 trips in with it he suggested changing the cps on
spec to see, if it didn't work then he would hook up a code reader with
volatile memory and swap jeeps with me two weeks so he code findout what was
happening. This was suggested after he wanted to change the fuel pump and
other parts, I kept saying it cant be that because it will do this right
away or it does this when it dies. (I forced him to do his trouble
shooting) And third is the engine ground strap, run a booster cable from
the engine block to the battery and see what happens.

Snow...


"msgrace" <gracemrs@cox.net> wrote in message
news:8013e73dc4bdb25d452a7440eccf7680@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
>I have change in the past week the ignition coil, crankshaft position
> senor, catalytic converter,oxygen sensorlocated on the converter, full
> tune up and the truck ran fine for a few days and today it started killing
> on me again. When I started it first thing this morning it ran fine, but
> when I started it at lunch time it killed on me twice before I could even
> make it out of the parking lot and then going down the street it tried to
> kill on me several time and had to ram on the gas pedal to keep it from
> killing. It is not showing any codes and my mechanic and I are at a lose
> as to what could be causing it, anyone else had similar problems?
>




Mike Romain 01-05-2006 09:08 AM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 
Someone beat me to it.... A bad ground strap to the body will cause
your symptoms too. In the Cherokee it is a wire mesh strap from the
head to the firewall and maybe a mesh strap across n engine mount. On
the grand there might be a cable from the battery negative to the fender
too. If the mesh one isn't on the head to the firewall look for the one
crossing the mount.

The body can steal grounds through things like the gas pedal and shifter
and brake pedal.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

msgrace wrote:
>
> I have change in the past week the ignition coil, crankshaft position
> senor, catalytic converter,oxygen sensorlocated on the converter, full
> tune up and the truck ran fine for a few days and today it started killing
> on me again. When I started it first thing this morning it ran fine, but
> when I started it at lunch time it killed on me twice before I could even
> make it out of the parking lot and then going down the street it tried to
> kill on me several time and had to ram on the gas pedal to keep it from
> killing. It is not showing any codes and my mechanic and I are at a lose
> as to what could be causing it, anyone else had similar problems?


Mike Romain 01-05-2006 09:08 AM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 
Someone beat me to it.... A bad ground strap to the body will cause
your symptoms too. In the Cherokee it is a wire mesh strap from the
head to the firewall and maybe a mesh strap across n engine mount. On
the grand there might be a cable from the battery negative to the fender
too. If the mesh one isn't on the head to the firewall look for the one
crossing the mount.

The body can steal grounds through things like the gas pedal and shifter
and brake pedal.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

msgrace wrote:
>
> I have change in the past week the ignition coil, crankshaft position
> senor, catalytic converter,oxygen sensorlocated on the converter, full
> tune up and the truck ran fine for a few days and today it started killing
> on me again. When I started it first thing this morning it ran fine, but
> when I started it at lunch time it killed on me twice before I could even
> make it out of the parking lot and then going down the street it tried to
> kill on me several time and had to ram on the gas pedal to keep it from
> killing. It is not showing any codes and my mechanic and I are at a lose
> as to what could be causing it, anyone else had similar problems?


Mike Romain 01-05-2006 09:08 AM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 
Someone beat me to it.... A bad ground strap to the body will cause
your symptoms too. In the Cherokee it is a wire mesh strap from the
head to the firewall and maybe a mesh strap across n engine mount. On
the grand there might be a cable from the battery negative to the fender
too. If the mesh one isn't on the head to the firewall look for the one
crossing the mount.

The body can steal grounds through things like the gas pedal and shifter
and brake pedal.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

msgrace wrote:
>
> I have change in the past week the ignition coil, crankshaft position
> senor, catalytic converter,oxygen sensorlocated on the converter, full
> tune up and the truck ran fine for a few days and today it started killing
> on me again. When I started it first thing this morning it ran fine, but
> when I started it at lunch time it killed on me twice before I could even
> make it out of the parking lot and then going down the street it tried to
> kill on me several time and had to ram on the gas pedal to keep it from
> killing. It is not showing any codes and my mechanic and I are at a lose
> as to what could be causing it, anyone else had similar problems?


Vito 01-05-2006 09:27 AM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 
"msgrace" <gracemrs@cox.net> wrote
> My mechanic has checked for any type of vacucum leaks and there is no
> hissing sounds or any funny sounds coming from anywhere on my Jeep. ....


I think Dave was suggesting a blocked gas tank vent - my first thot too cuz mud
dobbers plug the one on my boat often making the same problem.



Vito 01-05-2006 09:27 AM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 
"msgrace" <gracemrs@cox.net> wrote
> My mechanic has checked for any type of vacucum leaks and there is no
> hissing sounds or any funny sounds coming from anywhere on my Jeep. ....


I think Dave was suggesting a blocked gas tank vent - my first thot too cuz mud
dobbers plug the one on my boat often making the same problem.



Vito 01-05-2006 09:27 AM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 
"msgrace" <gracemrs@cox.net> wrote
> My mechanic has checked for any type of vacucum leaks and there is no
> hissing sounds or any funny sounds coming from anywhere on my Jeep. ....


I think Dave was suggesting a blocked gas tank vent - my first thot too cuz mud
dobbers plug the one on my boat often making the same problem.



Dave Milne 01-05-2006 09:30 AM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 
yes, that was what I was on about.

Dave Milne, Scotland

"Vito" <vito@crosslink.net> wrote in message
news:43bd2cc3$0$1912@dingus.crosslink.net...
> "msgrace" <gracemrs@cox.net> wrote
> > My mechanic has checked for any type of vacucum leaks and there is no
> > hissing sounds or any funny sounds coming from anywhere on my Jeep. ....

>
> I think Dave was suggesting a blocked gas tank vent - my first thot too

cuz mud
> dobbers plug the one on my boat often making the same problem.
>
>




Dave Milne 01-05-2006 09:30 AM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 
yes, that was what I was on about.

Dave Milne, Scotland

"Vito" <vito@crosslink.net> wrote in message
news:43bd2cc3$0$1912@dingus.crosslink.net...
> "msgrace" <gracemrs@cox.net> wrote
> > My mechanic has checked for any type of vacucum leaks and there is no
> > hissing sounds or any funny sounds coming from anywhere on my Jeep. ....

>
> I think Dave was suggesting a blocked gas tank vent - my first thot too

cuz mud
> dobbers plug the one on my boat often making the same problem.
>
>




Dave Milne 01-05-2006 09:30 AM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 
yes, that was what I was on about.

Dave Milne, Scotland

"Vito" <vito@crosslink.net> wrote in message
news:43bd2cc3$0$1912@dingus.crosslink.net...
> "msgrace" <gracemrs@cox.net> wrote
> > My mechanic has checked for any type of vacucum leaks and there is no
> > hissing sounds or any funny sounds coming from anywhere on my Jeep. ....

>
> I think Dave was suggesting a blocked gas tank vent - my first thot too

cuz mud
> dobbers plug the one on my boat often making the same problem.
>
>




msgrace 01-05-2006 06:42 PM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 
I don't want to appear stupid here but I am a woman trying to work on her
own Jeep to save money while my husband is over in Iraq, but what does cps
stand for? I am looking in my Haynes repair manuel and the only thing I
can think of would be camshaft position sensor would that be what you are
talking about? I use my mechanic when there is a part that I can't get to
myself to change.
Is there a fuel relay switch on the Jeep, it is a 2wd 6cyl and I was
wondering if that was going out and possibly causing the problem. Also,
where in the heck is that ground strap located!! I tried finding it and I
could not locate it. Again thanks to everyone with suggestions I am going
to try them all till I solve the problem.

Grace


msgrace 01-05-2006 06:42 PM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 
I don't want to appear stupid here but I am a woman trying to work on her
own Jeep to save money while my husband is over in Iraq, but what does cps
stand for? I am looking in my Haynes repair manuel and the only thing I
can think of would be camshaft position sensor would that be what you are
talking about? I use my mechanic when there is a part that I can't get to
myself to change.
Is there a fuel relay switch on the Jeep, it is a 2wd 6cyl and I was
wondering if that was going out and possibly causing the problem. Also,
where in the heck is that ground strap located!! I tried finding it and I
could not locate it. Again thanks to everyone with suggestions I am going
to try them all till I solve the problem.

Grace


msgrace 01-05-2006 06:42 PM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 
I don't want to appear stupid here but I am a woman trying to work on her
own Jeep to save money while my husband is over in Iraq, but what does cps
stand for? I am looking in my Haynes repair manuel and the only thing I
can think of would be camshaft position sensor would that be what you are
talking about? I use my mechanic when there is a part that I can't get to
myself to change.
Is there a fuel relay switch on the Jeep, it is a 2wd 6cyl and I was
wondering if that was going out and possibly causing the problem. Also,
where in the heck is that ground strap located!! I tried finding it and I
could not locate it. Again thanks to everyone with suggestions I am going
to try them all till I solve the problem.

Grace


Mike Romain 01-05-2006 07:14 PM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 
There are two CPS's. The crank position sensor and the cam one in the
distributor.

The ground strap 'could' be a wire mesh cable from the back of the
engine up to the firewall on the 6 and there could be one down one one
of the engine mounts. The other one would be to just follow the
negative cable from the battery to see where it goes. One will be to
the engine block and maybe the other will go to a fender or firewall.
This one is the suspected dirty one at the fender end. The mesh one
gets bad connections too and it rots out pretty fast in the rust belt.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

msgrace wrote:
>
> I don't want to appear stupid here but I am a woman trying to work on her
> own Jeep to save money while my husband is over in Iraq, but what does cps
> stand for? I am looking in my Haynes repair manuel and the only thing I
> can think of would be camshaft position sensor would that be what you are
> talking about? I use my mechanic when there is a part that I can't get to
> myself to change.
> Is there a fuel relay switch on the Jeep, it is a 2wd 6cyl and I was
> wondering if that was going out and possibly causing the problem. Also,
> where in the heck is that ground strap located!! I tried finding it and I
> could not locate it. Again thanks to everyone with suggestions I am going
> to try them all till I solve the problem.
>
> Grace


Mike Romain 01-05-2006 07:14 PM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 
There are two CPS's. The crank position sensor and the cam one in the
distributor.

The ground strap 'could' be a wire mesh cable from the back of the
engine up to the firewall on the 6 and there could be one down one one
of the engine mounts. The other one would be to just follow the
negative cable from the battery to see where it goes. One will be to
the engine block and maybe the other will go to a fender or firewall.
This one is the suspected dirty one at the fender end. The mesh one
gets bad connections too and it rots out pretty fast in the rust belt.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

msgrace wrote:
>
> I don't want to appear stupid here but I am a woman trying to work on her
> own Jeep to save money while my husband is over in Iraq, but what does cps
> stand for? I am looking in my Haynes repair manuel and the only thing I
> can think of would be camshaft position sensor would that be what you are
> talking about? I use my mechanic when there is a part that I can't get to
> myself to change.
> Is there a fuel relay switch on the Jeep, it is a 2wd 6cyl and I was
> wondering if that was going out and possibly causing the problem. Also,
> where in the heck is that ground strap located!! I tried finding it and I
> could not locate it. Again thanks to everyone with suggestions I am going
> to try them all till I solve the problem.
>
> Grace


Mike Romain 01-05-2006 07:14 PM

Re: 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo kills while driving
 
There are two CPS's. The crank position sensor and the cam one in the
distributor.

The ground strap 'could' be a wire mesh cable from the back of the
engine up to the firewall on the 6 and there could be one down one one
of the engine mounts. The other one would be to just follow the
negative cable from the battery to see where it goes. One will be to
the engine block and maybe the other will go to a fender or firewall.
This one is the suspected dirty one at the fender end. The mesh one
gets bad connections too and it rots out pretty fast in the rust belt.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

msgrace wrote:
>
> I don't want to appear stupid here but I am a woman trying to work on her
> own Jeep to save money while my husband is over in Iraq, but what does cps
> stand for? I am looking in my Haynes repair manuel and the only thing I
> can think of would be camshaft position sensor would that be what you are
> talking about? I use my mechanic when there is a part that I can't get to
> myself to change.
> Is there a fuel relay switch on the Jeep, it is a 2wd 6cyl and I was
> wondering if that was going out and possibly causing the problem. Also,
> where in the heck is that ground strap located!! I tried finding it and I
> could not locate it. Again thanks to everyone with suggestions I am going
> to try them all till I solve the problem.
>
> Grace



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