97 jeep cherokee sport acceleration problem
08-22-2006, 09:59 PM
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97 jeep cherokee sport acceleration problem
i got check engine codes po135 & po138. when i accelerate quickly from a
stop it hesitates badly
and shakes and then moves all of a sudden.i changed the 02 sensors but
still have the same problem. it doesn't hesitate when i'm moving at a good
speed. mechanic is stumped. any help would be greatly appreciated.
stop it hesitates badly
and shakes and then moves all of a sudden.i changed the 02 sensors but
still have the same problem. it doesn't hesitate when i'm moving at a good
speed. mechanic is stumped. any help would be greatly appreciated.
08-22-2006, 10:39 PM
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Re: 97 jeep cherokee sport acceleration problem
edfisher wrote:
> i got check engine codes po135 & po138. when i accelerate quickly
> from a stop it hesitates badly
> and shakes and then moves all of a sudden.i changed the 02 sensors but
> still have the same problem. it doesn't hesitate when i'm moving at a
> good speed. mechanic is stumped. any help would be greatly
> appreciated.
http://revbeergoggles.com/Fixes/diagnostics.html
WOT does not use the O2 sensor, TPS and coolant temp are the
primary two sensors for acceleration mode.
So, how's the throttle position sensor doing? It should have three lines.
The outer two are 5v and ground. the inner one should smootly move
The coolant temp sensor is usually not the problem, and you can check
that with the temp gauge.
It can also be a failing coil (which sets no codes) or any general problem
with the spark side. (coil, distributor, rotor, cap, wires, plugs)
I'm leaning toward spark. How long has it been since you put new cap/rotor/wires/plugs?
For testing the TPS
----
If your moderatly skilled with electronics and have a digital volt meter
you can test the TPS sensor. There are three leads. one is ground, one
is voltage, and the other varies as you move the throttle body.
Basically:
Turn the ignition on but do not start the jeep.
back-probe the connector and find the ground and +5v
(should be the outside two wires)
If there isn't 5v there then you might have a break in the harness
or just not a good contact with the wire.
Now measure the center wire against the ground.
Throttle butterfly Voltage
CLOSED >200 mV
OPEN <4.8 V
The transition between full open and closed should be smooth
with no jumps or dropouts.
----
--
DougW
> i got check engine codes po135 & po138. when i accelerate quickly
> from a stop it hesitates badly
> and shakes and then moves all of a sudden.i changed the 02 sensors but
> still have the same problem. it doesn't hesitate when i'm moving at a
> good speed. mechanic is stumped. any help would be greatly
> appreciated.
http://revbeergoggles.com/Fixes/diagnostics.html
WOT does not use the O2 sensor, TPS and coolant temp are the
primary two sensors for acceleration mode.
So, how's the throttle position sensor doing? It should have three lines.
The outer two are 5v and ground. the inner one should smootly move
The coolant temp sensor is usually not the problem, and you can check
that with the temp gauge.
It can also be a failing coil (which sets no codes) or any general problem
with the spark side. (coil, distributor, rotor, cap, wires, plugs)
I'm leaning toward spark. How long has it been since you put new cap/rotor/wires/plugs?
For testing the TPS
----
If your moderatly skilled with electronics and have a digital volt meter
you can test the TPS sensor. There are three leads. one is ground, one
is voltage, and the other varies as you move the throttle body.
Basically:
Turn the ignition on but do not start the jeep.
back-probe the connector and find the ground and +5v
(should be the outside two wires)
If there isn't 5v there then you might have a break in the harness
or just not a good contact with the wire.
Now measure the center wire against the ground.
Throttle butterfly Voltage
CLOSED >200 mV
OPEN <4.8 V
The transition between full open and closed should be smooth
with no jumps or dropouts.
----
--
DougW
08-22-2006, 10:39 PM
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Re: 97 jeep cherokee sport acceleration problem
edfisher wrote:
> i got check engine codes po135 & po138. when i accelerate quickly
> from a stop it hesitates badly
> and shakes and then moves all of a sudden.i changed the 02 sensors but
> still have the same problem. it doesn't hesitate when i'm moving at a
> good speed. mechanic is stumped. any help would be greatly
> appreciated.
http://revbeergoggles.com/Fixes/diagnostics.html
WOT does not use the O2 sensor, TPS and coolant temp are the
primary two sensors for acceleration mode.
So, how's the throttle position sensor doing? It should have three lines.
The outer two are 5v and ground. the inner one should smootly move
The coolant temp sensor is usually not the problem, and you can check
that with the temp gauge.
It can also be a failing coil (which sets no codes) or any general problem
with the spark side. (coil, distributor, rotor, cap, wires, plugs)
I'm leaning toward spark. How long has it been since you put new cap/rotor/wires/plugs?
For testing the TPS
----
If your moderatly skilled with electronics and have a digital volt meter
you can test the TPS sensor. There are three leads. one is ground, one
is voltage, and the other varies as you move the throttle body.
Basically:
Turn the ignition on but do not start the jeep.
back-probe the connector and find the ground and +5v
(should be the outside two wires)
If there isn't 5v there then you might have a break in the harness
or just not a good contact with the wire.
Now measure the center wire against the ground.
Throttle butterfly Voltage
CLOSED >200 mV
OPEN <4.8 V
The transition between full open and closed should be smooth
with no jumps or dropouts.
----
--
DougW
> i got check engine codes po135 & po138. when i accelerate quickly
> from a stop it hesitates badly
> and shakes and then moves all of a sudden.i changed the 02 sensors but
> still have the same problem. it doesn't hesitate when i'm moving at a
> good speed. mechanic is stumped. any help would be greatly
> appreciated.
http://revbeergoggles.com/Fixes/diagnostics.html
WOT does not use the O2 sensor, TPS and coolant temp are the
primary two sensors for acceleration mode.
So, how's the throttle position sensor doing? It should have three lines.
The outer two are 5v and ground. the inner one should smootly move
The coolant temp sensor is usually not the problem, and you can check
that with the temp gauge.
It can also be a failing coil (which sets no codes) or any general problem
with the spark side. (coil, distributor, rotor, cap, wires, plugs)
I'm leaning toward spark. How long has it been since you put new cap/rotor/wires/plugs?
For testing the TPS
----
If your moderatly skilled with electronics and have a digital volt meter
you can test the TPS sensor. There are three leads. one is ground, one
is voltage, and the other varies as you move the throttle body.
Basically:
Turn the ignition on but do not start the jeep.
back-probe the connector and find the ground and +5v
(should be the outside two wires)
If there isn't 5v there then you might have a break in the harness
or just not a good contact with the wire.
Now measure the center wire against the ground.
Throttle butterfly Voltage
CLOSED >200 mV
OPEN <4.8 V
The transition between full open and closed should be smooth
with no jumps or dropouts.
----
--
DougW
08-22-2006, 10:39 PM
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Re: 97 jeep cherokee sport acceleration problem
edfisher wrote:
> i got check engine codes po135 & po138. when i accelerate quickly
> from a stop it hesitates badly
> and shakes and then moves all of a sudden.i changed the 02 sensors but
> still have the same problem. it doesn't hesitate when i'm moving at a
> good speed. mechanic is stumped. any help would be greatly
> appreciated.
http://revbeergoggles.com/Fixes/diagnostics.html
WOT does not use the O2 sensor, TPS and coolant temp are the
primary two sensors for acceleration mode.
So, how's the throttle position sensor doing? It should have three lines.
The outer two are 5v and ground. the inner one should smootly move
The coolant temp sensor is usually not the problem, and you can check
that with the temp gauge.
It can also be a failing coil (which sets no codes) or any general problem
with the spark side. (coil, distributor, rotor, cap, wires, plugs)
I'm leaning toward spark. How long has it been since you put new cap/rotor/wires/plugs?
For testing the TPS
----
If your moderatly skilled with electronics and have a digital volt meter
you can test the TPS sensor. There are three leads. one is ground, one
is voltage, and the other varies as you move the throttle body.
Basically:
Turn the ignition on but do not start the jeep.
back-probe the connector and find the ground and +5v
(should be the outside two wires)
If there isn't 5v there then you might have a break in the harness
or just not a good contact with the wire.
Now measure the center wire against the ground.
Throttle butterfly Voltage
CLOSED >200 mV
OPEN <4.8 V
The transition between full open and closed should be smooth
with no jumps or dropouts.
----
--
DougW
> i got check engine codes po135 & po138. when i accelerate quickly
> from a stop it hesitates badly
> and shakes and then moves all of a sudden.i changed the 02 sensors but
> still have the same problem. it doesn't hesitate when i'm moving at a
> good speed. mechanic is stumped. any help would be greatly
> appreciated.
http://revbeergoggles.com/Fixes/diagnostics.html
WOT does not use the O2 sensor, TPS and coolant temp are the
primary two sensors for acceleration mode.
So, how's the throttle position sensor doing? It should have three lines.
The outer two are 5v and ground. the inner one should smootly move
The coolant temp sensor is usually not the problem, and you can check
that with the temp gauge.
It can also be a failing coil (which sets no codes) or any general problem
with the spark side. (coil, distributor, rotor, cap, wires, plugs)
I'm leaning toward spark. How long has it been since you put new cap/rotor/wires/plugs?
For testing the TPS
----
If your moderatly skilled with electronics and have a digital volt meter
you can test the TPS sensor. There are three leads. one is ground, one
is voltage, and the other varies as you move the throttle body.
Basically:
Turn the ignition on but do not start the jeep.
back-probe the connector and find the ground and +5v
(should be the outside two wires)
If there isn't 5v there then you might have a break in the harness
or just not a good contact with the wire.
Now measure the center wire against the ground.
Throttle butterfly Voltage
CLOSED >200 mV
OPEN <4.8 V
The transition between full open and closed should be smooth
with no jumps or dropouts.
----
--
DougW
08-22-2006, 10:39 PM
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Re: 97 jeep cherokee sport acceleration problem
edfisher wrote:
> i got check engine codes po135 & po138. when i accelerate quickly
> from a stop it hesitates badly
> and shakes and then moves all of a sudden.i changed the 02 sensors but
> still have the same problem. it doesn't hesitate when i'm moving at a
> good speed. mechanic is stumped. any help would be greatly
> appreciated.
http://revbeergoggles.com/Fixes/diagnostics.html
WOT does not use the O2 sensor, TPS and coolant temp are the
primary two sensors for acceleration mode.
So, how's the throttle position sensor doing? It should have three lines.
The outer two are 5v and ground. the inner one should smootly move
The coolant temp sensor is usually not the problem, and you can check
that with the temp gauge.
It can also be a failing coil (which sets no codes) or any general problem
with the spark side. (coil, distributor, rotor, cap, wires, plugs)
I'm leaning toward spark. How long has it been since you put new cap/rotor/wires/plugs?
For testing the TPS
----
If your moderatly skilled with electronics and have a digital volt meter
you can test the TPS sensor. There are three leads. one is ground, one
is voltage, and the other varies as you move the throttle body.
Basically:
Turn the ignition on but do not start the jeep.
back-probe the connector and find the ground and +5v
(should be the outside two wires)
If there isn't 5v there then you might have a break in the harness
or just not a good contact with the wire.
Now measure the center wire against the ground.
Throttle butterfly Voltage
CLOSED >200 mV
OPEN <4.8 V
The transition between full open and closed should be smooth
with no jumps or dropouts.
----
--
DougW
> i got check engine codes po135 & po138. when i accelerate quickly
> from a stop it hesitates badly
> and shakes and then moves all of a sudden.i changed the 02 sensors but
> still have the same problem. it doesn't hesitate when i'm moving at a
> good speed. mechanic is stumped. any help would be greatly
> appreciated.
http://revbeergoggles.com/Fixes/diagnostics.html
WOT does not use the O2 sensor, TPS and coolant temp are the
primary two sensors for acceleration mode.
So, how's the throttle position sensor doing? It should have three lines.
The outer two are 5v and ground. the inner one should smootly move
The coolant temp sensor is usually not the problem, and you can check
that with the temp gauge.
It can also be a failing coil (which sets no codes) or any general problem
with the spark side. (coil, distributor, rotor, cap, wires, plugs)
I'm leaning toward spark. How long has it been since you put new cap/rotor/wires/plugs?
For testing the TPS
----
If your moderatly skilled with electronics and have a digital volt meter
you can test the TPS sensor. There are three leads. one is ground, one
is voltage, and the other varies as you move the throttle body.
Basically:
Turn the ignition on but do not start the jeep.
back-probe the connector and find the ground and +5v
(should be the outside two wires)
If there isn't 5v there then you might have a break in the harness
or just not a good contact with the wire.
Now measure the center wire against the ground.
Throttle butterfly Voltage
CLOSED >200 mV
OPEN <4.8 V
The transition between full open and closed should be smooth
with no jumps or dropouts.
----
--
DougW