'96 JGC Ltd 5.2L fan removal?
11-12-2005, 03:05 PM
#11
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Re: '96 JGC Ltd 5.2L fan removal?
I have both engines, the 4.0 and 4.2. I have had the fan off both....
I am talking about the small bolts that hold the pulley and putting a
wrench on them to hold things tight. I also have backed out those bolts
so I could jam the big screwdriver across them.
Mike
Oh pooh said Bother wrote:
>
> I'm guessing you have the 4.0L engine. A day later I'm still stuck on
> this and have tried all kinds of things.
>
> At this point I'm thinking of trying to make a tool for it but I need
> to find some steel stock somewhere. (Taking a thin piece of steel bar
> stock and drilling two holes the same distance as the spacing of the
> holes on the pulley, then threading them and putting two bolts thru.)
> I've already mangled a steel shelving bracket once I figured I could
> put 2 1/4-20 bolts into the holes to have something to wedge against.
> Can't get enough leverage with anything I have that will catch the
> bolts enough to hold.
>
> That thing's on their tight!
>
> _Rich_
>
> In article <437505D3.642AD89D@sympatico.ca>, Mike Romain
> <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > I some/lots of times use a socket and socket wrench or power bar to hold
> > one bolt while unbolting the other(s).
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Oh pooh said Bother wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm trying to follow the instructions from the factory manual to
> > > replace my radiator and the first significant step is the removal of
> > > the fan/viscous fan drive. The instructions say to keep the pulley
> > > from turning when unscrewing the big pulley nut to wedge a bar or
> > > screwdriver between the water pump pulley bolts but I can't figure out
> > > any way to do that as they're recessed into the pulley.
> > >
> > > Suggestions?
> > >
> > > _Rich_ (stuck before really getting started)
I am talking about the small bolts that hold the pulley and putting a
wrench on them to hold things tight. I also have backed out those bolts
so I could jam the big screwdriver across them.
Mike
Oh pooh said Bother wrote:
>
> I'm guessing you have the 4.0L engine. A day later I'm still stuck on
> this and have tried all kinds of things.
>
> At this point I'm thinking of trying to make a tool for it but I need
> to find some steel stock somewhere. (Taking a thin piece of steel bar
> stock and drilling two holes the same distance as the spacing of the
> holes on the pulley, then threading them and putting two bolts thru.)
> I've already mangled a steel shelving bracket once I figured I could
> put 2 1/4-20 bolts into the holes to have something to wedge against.
> Can't get enough leverage with anything I have that will catch the
> bolts enough to hold.
>
> That thing's on their tight!
>
> _Rich_
>
> In article <437505D3.642AD89D@sympatico.ca>, Mike Romain
> <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > I some/lots of times use a socket and socket wrench or power bar to hold
> > one bolt while unbolting the other(s).
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Oh pooh said Bother wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm trying to follow the instructions from the factory manual to
> > > replace my radiator and the first significant step is the removal of
> > > the fan/viscous fan drive. The instructions say to keep the pulley
> > > from turning when unscrewing the big pulley nut to wedge a bar or
> > > screwdriver between the water pump pulley bolts but I can't figure out
> > > any way to do that as they're recessed into the pulley.
> > >
> > > Suggestions?
> > >
> > > _Rich_ (stuck before really getting started)
11-12-2005, 03:05 PM
#12
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Re: '96 JGC Ltd 5.2L fan removal?
I have both engines, the 4.0 and 4.2. I have had the fan off both....
I am talking about the small bolts that hold the pulley and putting a
wrench on them to hold things tight. I also have backed out those bolts
so I could jam the big screwdriver across them.
Mike
Oh pooh said Bother wrote:
>
> I'm guessing you have the 4.0L engine. A day later I'm still stuck on
> this and have tried all kinds of things.
>
> At this point I'm thinking of trying to make a tool for it but I need
> to find some steel stock somewhere. (Taking a thin piece of steel bar
> stock and drilling two holes the same distance as the spacing of the
> holes on the pulley, then threading them and putting two bolts thru.)
> I've already mangled a steel shelving bracket once I figured I could
> put 2 1/4-20 bolts into the holes to have something to wedge against.
> Can't get enough leverage with anything I have that will catch the
> bolts enough to hold.
>
> That thing's on their tight!
>
> _Rich_
>
> In article <437505D3.642AD89D@sympatico.ca>, Mike Romain
> <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > I some/lots of times use a socket and socket wrench or power bar to hold
> > one bolt while unbolting the other(s).
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Oh pooh said Bother wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm trying to follow the instructions from the factory manual to
> > > replace my radiator and the first significant step is the removal of
> > > the fan/viscous fan drive. The instructions say to keep the pulley
> > > from turning when unscrewing the big pulley nut to wedge a bar or
> > > screwdriver between the water pump pulley bolts but I can't figure out
> > > any way to do that as they're recessed into the pulley.
> > >
> > > Suggestions?
> > >
> > > _Rich_ (stuck before really getting started)
I am talking about the small bolts that hold the pulley and putting a
wrench on them to hold things tight. I also have backed out those bolts
so I could jam the big screwdriver across them.
Mike
Oh pooh said Bother wrote:
>
> I'm guessing you have the 4.0L engine. A day later I'm still stuck on
> this and have tried all kinds of things.
>
> At this point I'm thinking of trying to make a tool for it but I need
> to find some steel stock somewhere. (Taking a thin piece of steel bar
> stock and drilling two holes the same distance as the spacing of the
> holes on the pulley, then threading them and putting two bolts thru.)
> I've already mangled a steel shelving bracket once I figured I could
> put 2 1/4-20 bolts into the holes to have something to wedge against.
> Can't get enough leverage with anything I have that will catch the
> bolts enough to hold.
>
> That thing's on their tight!
>
> _Rich_
>
> In article <437505D3.642AD89D@sympatico.ca>, Mike Romain
> <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > I some/lots of times use a socket and socket wrench or power bar to hold
> > one bolt while unbolting the other(s).
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Oh pooh said Bother wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm trying to follow the instructions from the factory manual to
> > > replace my radiator and the first significant step is the removal of
> > > the fan/viscous fan drive. The instructions say to keep the pulley
> > > from turning when unscrewing the big pulley nut to wedge a bar or
> > > screwdriver between the water pump pulley bolts but I can't figure out
> > > any way to do that as they're recessed into the pulley.
> > >
> > > Suggestions?
> > >
> > > _Rich_ (stuck before really getting started)
11-12-2005, 03:05 PM
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Re: '96 JGC Ltd 5.2L fan removal?
I have both engines, the 4.0 and 4.2. I have had the fan off both....
I am talking about the small bolts that hold the pulley and putting a
wrench on them to hold things tight. I also have backed out those bolts
so I could jam the big screwdriver across them.
Mike
Oh pooh said Bother wrote:
>
> I'm guessing you have the 4.0L engine. A day later I'm still stuck on
> this and have tried all kinds of things.
>
> At this point I'm thinking of trying to make a tool for it but I need
> to find some steel stock somewhere. (Taking a thin piece of steel bar
> stock and drilling two holes the same distance as the spacing of the
> holes on the pulley, then threading them and putting two bolts thru.)
> I've already mangled a steel shelving bracket once I figured I could
> put 2 1/4-20 bolts into the holes to have something to wedge against.
> Can't get enough leverage with anything I have that will catch the
> bolts enough to hold.
>
> That thing's on their tight!
>
> _Rich_
>
> In article <437505D3.642AD89D@sympatico.ca>, Mike Romain
> <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > I some/lots of times use a socket and socket wrench or power bar to hold
> > one bolt while unbolting the other(s).
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Oh pooh said Bother wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm trying to follow the instructions from the factory manual to
> > > replace my radiator and the first significant step is the removal of
> > > the fan/viscous fan drive. The instructions say to keep the pulley
> > > from turning when unscrewing the big pulley nut to wedge a bar or
> > > screwdriver between the water pump pulley bolts but I can't figure out
> > > any way to do that as they're recessed into the pulley.
> > >
> > > Suggestions?
> > >
> > > _Rich_ (stuck before really getting started)
I am talking about the small bolts that hold the pulley and putting a
wrench on them to hold things tight. I also have backed out those bolts
so I could jam the big screwdriver across them.
Mike
Oh pooh said Bother wrote:
>
> I'm guessing you have the 4.0L engine. A day later I'm still stuck on
> this and have tried all kinds of things.
>
> At this point I'm thinking of trying to make a tool for it but I need
> to find some steel stock somewhere. (Taking a thin piece of steel bar
> stock and drilling two holes the same distance as the spacing of the
> holes on the pulley, then threading them and putting two bolts thru.)
> I've already mangled a steel shelving bracket once I figured I could
> put 2 1/4-20 bolts into the holes to have something to wedge against.
> Can't get enough leverage with anything I have that will catch the
> bolts enough to hold.
>
> That thing's on their tight!
>
> _Rich_
>
> In article <437505D3.642AD89D@sympatico.ca>, Mike Romain
> <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > I some/lots of times use a socket and socket wrench or power bar to hold
> > one bolt while unbolting the other(s).
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Oh pooh said Bother wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm trying to follow the instructions from the factory manual to
> > > replace my radiator and the first significant step is the removal of
> > > the fan/viscous fan drive. The instructions say to keep the pulley
> > > from turning when unscrewing the big pulley nut to wedge a bar or
> > > screwdriver between the water pump pulley bolts but I can't figure out
> > > any way to do that as they're recessed into the pulley.
> > >
> > > Suggestions?
> > >
> > > _Rich_ (stuck before really getting started)
11-12-2005, 04:08 PM
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Re: '96 JGC Ltd 5.2L fan removal?
Mike Romain did pass the time by typing:
> I have both engines, the 4.0 and 4.2. I have had the fan off both....
>
> I am talking about the small bolts that hold the pulley and putting a
> wrench on them to hold things tight. I also have backed out those bolts
> so I could jam the big screwdriver across them.
like this? http://members.***.net/wilsond/hb/fanbolt2.JPG
--
DougW
> I have both engines, the 4.0 and 4.2. I have had the fan off both....
>
> I am talking about the small bolts that hold the pulley and putting a
> wrench on them to hold things tight. I also have backed out those bolts
> so I could jam the big screwdriver across them.
like this? http://members.***.net/wilsond/hb/fanbolt2.JPG
--
DougW
11-12-2005, 04:08 PM
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Re: '96 JGC Ltd 5.2L fan removal?
Mike Romain did pass the time by typing:
> I have both engines, the 4.0 and 4.2. I have had the fan off both....
>
> I am talking about the small bolts that hold the pulley and putting a
> wrench on them to hold things tight. I also have backed out those bolts
> so I could jam the big screwdriver across them.
like this? http://members.***.net/wilsond/hb/fanbolt2.JPG
--
DougW
> I have both engines, the 4.0 and 4.2. I have had the fan off both....
>
> I am talking about the small bolts that hold the pulley and putting a
> wrench on them to hold things tight. I also have backed out those bolts
> so I could jam the big screwdriver across them.
like this? http://members.***.net/wilsond/hb/fanbolt2.JPG
--
DougW
11-12-2005, 04:08 PM
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Re: '96 JGC Ltd 5.2L fan removal?
Mike Romain did pass the time by typing:
> I have both engines, the 4.0 and 4.2. I have had the fan off both....
>
> I am talking about the small bolts that hold the pulley and putting a
> wrench on them to hold things tight. I also have backed out those bolts
> so I could jam the big screwdriver across them.
like this? http://members.***.net/wilsond/hb/fanbolt2.JPG
--
DougW
> I have both engines, the 4.0 and 4.2. I have had the fan off both....
>
> I am talking about the small bolts that hold the pulley and putting a
> wrench on them to hold things tight. I also have backed out those bolts
> so I could jam the big screwdriver across them.
like this? http://members.***.net/wilsond/hb/fanbolt2.JPG
--
DougW
11-12-2005, 04:39 PM
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Re: '96 JGC Ltd 5.2L fan removal?
DougW wrote:
>
> Mike Romain did pass the time by typing:
> > I have both engines, the 4.0 and 4.2. I have had the fan off both....
> >
> > I am talking about the small bolts that hold the pulley and putting a
> > wrench on them to hold things tight. I also have backed out those bolts
> > so I could jam the big screwdriver across them.
>
> like this? http://members.***.net/wilsond/hb/fanbolt2.JPG
>
> --
> DougW
Yup.
That big center bolt sometimes needs a smack on the wrench handle to
break it free too or an impact driver after the rad is out of the way.
Oh he is trying to remove the rad isn't he?
If it is that much of an SOB, I would likely leave the sucker in and
just drop the shroud back over it and carefully work the rad out.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Mike Romain did pass the time by typing:
> > I have both engines, the 4.0 and 4.2. I have had the fan off both....
> >
> > I am talking about the small bolts that hold the pulley and putting a
> > wrench on them to hold things tight. I also have backed out those bolts
> > so I could jam the big screwdriver across them.
>
> like this? http://members.***.net/wilsond/hb/fanbolt2.JPG
>
> --
> DougW
Yup.
That big center bolt sometimes needs a smack on the wrench handle to
break it free too or an impact driver after the rad is out of the way.
Oh he is trying to remove the rad isn't he?
If it is that much of an SOB, I would likely leave the sucker in and
just drop the shroud back over it and carefully work the rad out.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
11-12-2005, 04:39 PM
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Re: '96 JGC Ltd 5.2L fan removal?
DougW wrote:
>
> Mike Romain did pass the time by typing:
> > I have both engines, the 4.0 and 4.2. I have had the fan off both....
> >
> > I am talking about the small bolts that hold the pulley and putting a
> > wrench on them to hold things tight. I also have backed out those bolts
> > so I could jam the big screwdriver across them.
>
> like this? http://members.***.net/wilsond/hb/fanbolt2.JPG
>
> --
> DougW
Yup.
That big center bolt sometimes needs a smack on the wrench handle to
break it free too or an impact driver after the rad is out of the way.
Oh he is trying to remove the rad isn't he?
If it is that much of an SOB, I would likely leave the sucker in and
just drop the shroud back over it and carefully work the rad out.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Mike Romain did pass the time by typing:
> > I have both engines, the 4.0 and 4.2. I have had the fan off both....
> >
> > I am talking about the small bolts that hold the pulley and putting a
> > wrench on them to hold things tight. I also have backed out those bolts
> > so I could jam the big screwdriver across them.
>
> like this? http://members.***.net/wilsond/hb/fanbolt2.JPG
>
> --
> DougW
Yup.
That big center bolt sometimes needs a smack on the wrench handle to
break it free too or an impact driver after the rad is out of the way.
Oh he is trying to remove the rad isn't he?
If it is that much of an SOB, I would likely leave the sucker in and
just drop the shroud back over it and carefully work the rad out.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
11-12-2005, 04:39 PM
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Re: '96 JGC Ltd 5.2L fan removal?
DougW wrote:
>
> Mike Romain did pass the time by typing:
> > I have both engines, the 4.0 and 4.2. I have had the fan off both....
> >
> > I am talking about the small bolts that hold the pulley and putting a
> > wrench on them to hold things tight. I also have backed out those bolts
> > so I could jam the big screwdriver across them.
>
> like this? http://members.***.net/wilsond/hb/fanbolt2.JPG
>
> --
> DougW
Yup.
That big center bolt sometimes needs a smack on the wrench handle to
break it free too or an impact driver after the rad is out of the way.
Oh he is trying to remove the rad isn't he?
If it is that much of an SOB, I would likely leave the sucker in and
just drop the shroud back over it and carefully work the rad out.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Mike Romain did pass the time by typing:
> > I have both engines, the 4.0 and 4.2. I have had the fan off both....
> >
> > I am talking about the small bolts that hold the pulley and putting a
> > wrench on them to hold things tight. I also have backed out those bolts
> > so I could jam the big screwdriver across them.
>
> like this? http://members.***.net/wilsond/hb/fanbolt2.JPG
>
> --
> DougW
Yup.
That big center bolt sometimes needs a smack on the wrench handle to
break it free too or an impact driver after the rad is out of the way.
Oh he is trying to remove the rad isn't he?
If it is that much of an SOB, I would likely leave the sucker in and
just drop the shroud back over it and carefully work the rad out.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
11-12-2005, 04:55 PM
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Re: '96 JGC Ltd 5.2L fan removal?
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> DougW wrote:
> >
> > Mike Romain did pass the time by typing:
> > > I have both engines, the 4.0 and 4.2. I have had the fan off both....
> > >
> > > I am talking about the small bolts that hold the pulley and putting a
> > > wrench on them to hold things tight. I also have backed out those bolts
> > > so I could jam the big screwdriver across them.
> >
> > like this? http://members.***.net/wilsond/hb/fanbolt2.JPG
> >
> > --
> > DougW
>
> Yup.
>
> That big center bolt sometimes needs a smack on the wrench handle to
> break it free too or an impact driver after the rad is out of the way.
> Oh he is trying to remove the rad isn't he?
>
> If it is that much of an SOB, I would likely leave the sucker in and
> just drop the shroud back over it and carefully work the rad out.
And if the rad is garbage, take out the word 'carefully'. ;-)
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> DougW wrote:
> >
> > Mike Romain did pass the time by typing:
> > > I have both engines, the 4.0 and 4.2. I have had the fan off both....
> > >
> > > I am talking about the small bolts that hold the pulley and putting a
> > > wrench on them to hold things tight. I also have backed out those bolts
> > > so I could jam the big screwdriver across them.
> >
> > like this? http://members.***.net/wilsond/hb/fanbolt2.JPG
> >
> > --
> > DougW
>
> Yup.
>
> That big center bolt sometimes needs a smack on the wrench handle to
> break it free too or an impact driver after the rad is out of the way.
> Oh he is trying to remove the rad isn't he?
>
> If it is that much of an SOB, I would likely leave the sucker in and
> just drop the shroud back over it and carefully work the rad out.
And if the rad is garbage, take out the word 'carefully'. ;-)
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)