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Joe 10-03-2003 12:48 PM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
Straight higway.
Just died. No bumping that I recall (about 10 years ago now)

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F7DA0A1.EADA282B@cox.net...
> Your ignition switch was falling apart and should have been fix
> under the Ford recall. Think back, it usually died when your knee bumped
> the steering column as in make a turn.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Joe wrote:
> >
> > Stop calling it a "car"... It's a Jeep, you pissed it off.
> > I'd guess you have a short somewhere. This used to happen to my

Taurus...
> > it would die, i'd turn the key to off then restart it. It would start

every
> > time. It would die about every 50 miles (makes a 300 mile trip

annoying...
> > had to drive in right hand lane the whole way so that in case it died I
> > could pull over). I never figured out what the problem was, I sold it
> > instead.




Joe 10-03-2003 12:48 PM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
Straight higway.
Just died. No bumping that I recall (about 10 years ago now)

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F7DA0A1.EADA282B@cox.net...
> Your ignition switch was falling apart and should have been fix
> under the Ford recall. Think back, it usually died when your knee bumped
> the steering column as in make a turn.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Joe wrote:
> >
> > Stop calling it a "car"... It's a Jeep, you pissed it off.
> > I'd guess you have a short somewhere. This used to happen to my

Taurus...
> > it would die, i'd turn the key to off then restart it. It would start

every
> > time. It would die about every 50 miles (makes a 300 mile trip

annoying...
> > had to drive in right hand lane the whole way so that in case it died I
> > could pull over). I never figured out what the problem was, I sold it
> > instead.




Joe 10-03-2003 12:48 PM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
Straight higway.
Just died. No bumping that I recall (about 10 years ago now)

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F7DA0A1.EADA282B@cox.net...
> Your ignition switch was falling apart and should have been fix
> under the Ford recall. Think back, it usually died when your knee bumped
> the steering column as in make a turn.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Joe wrote:
> >
> > Stop calling it a "car"... It's a Jeep, you pissed it off.
> > I'd guess you have a short somewhere. This used to happen to my

Taurus...
> > it would die, i'd turn the key to off then restart it. It would start

every
> > time. It would die about every 50 miles (makes a 300 mile trip

annoying...
> > had to drive in right hand lane the whole way so that in case it died I
> > could pull over). I never figured out what the problem was, I sold it
> > instead.




Lon Stowell 10-03-2003 01:16 PM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
Approximately 10/3/03 08:25, Ed Wojciechowski uttered for posterity:

> First time posting...the car has roughly 140k on it. The problem is, when
> you're driving it just dies on you. The tach goes to zero and seconds later
> there is no power. But, there are times that the tach goes to zero and it
> does not die. No check engine light comes on, so this is no help. I checked
> the crank sensor, it was good, I replaced the coil pick up thinking it was
> going bad. Any suggestions?


Check the crankshaft position sensor. You may also want to pull
the fault codes. Allegedly on the 96 ZJ you'll need a scan tool,
which a local parts place may be willing to do.


Lon Stowell 10-03-2003 01:16 PM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
Approximately 10/3/03 08:25, Ed Wojciechowski uttered for posterity:

> First time posting...the car has roughly 140k on it. The problem is, when
> you're driving it just dies on you. The tach goes to zero and seconds later
> there is no power. But, there are times that the tach goes to zero and it
> does not die. No check engine light comes on, so this is no help. I checked
> the crank sensor, it was good, I replaced the coil pick up thinking it was
> going bad. Any suggestions?


Check the crankshaft position sensor. You may also want to pull
the fault codes. Allegedly on the 96 ZJ you'll need a scan tool,
which a local parts place may be willing to do.


Lon Stowell 10-03-2003 01:16 PM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
Approximately 10/3/03 08:25, Ed Wojciechowski uttered for posterity:

> First time posting...the car has roughly 140k on it. The problem is, when
> you're driving it just dies on you. The tach goes to zero and seconds later
> there is no power. But, there are times that the tach goes to zero and it
> does not die. No check engine light comes on, so this is no help. I checked
> the crank sensor, it was good, I replaced the coil pick up thinking it was
> going bad. Any suggestions?


Check the crankshaft position sensor. You may also want to pull
the fault codes. Allegedly on the 96 ZJ you'll need a scan tool,
which a local parts place may be willing to do.


Jerry Bransford 10-03-2003 01:52 PM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
That sounds exactly like the crankshaft position sensor is crapping out.

Jerry
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"Ed Wojciechowski" <wojo@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote in message
news:2129515.1065180340@boldme12.andrew.ad.cmu.edu ...
> First time posting...the car has roughly 140k on it. The problem is, when
> you're driving it just dies on you. The tach goes to zero and seconds

later
> there is no power. But, there are times that the tach goes to zero and it
> does not die. No check engine light comes on, so this is no help. I

checked
> the crank sensor, it was good, I replaced the coil pick up thinking it was
> going bad. Any suggestions?




Jerry Bransford 10-03-2003 01:52 PM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
That sounds exactly like the crankshaft position sensor is crapping out.

Jerry
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"Ed Wojciechowski" <wojo@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote in message
news:2129515.1065180340@boldme12.andrew.ad.cmu.edu ...
> First time posting...the car has roughly 140k on it. The problem is, when
> you're driving it just dies on you. The tach goes to zero and seconds

later
> there is no power. But, there are times that the tach goes to zero and it
> does not die. No check engine light comes on, so this is no help. I

checked
> the crank sensor, it was good, I replaced the coil pick up thinking it was
> going bad. Any suggestions?




Jerry Bransford 10-03-2003 01:52 PM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
That sounds exactly like the crankshaft position sensor is crapping out.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
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"Ed Wojciechowski" <wojo@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote in message
news:2129515.1065180340@boldme12.andrew.ad.cmu.edu ...
> First time posting...the car has roughly 140k on it. The problem is, when
> you're driving it just dies on you. The tach goes to zero and seconds

later
> there is no power. But, there are times that the tach goes to zero and it
> does not die. No check engine light comes on, so this is no help. I

checked
> the crank sensor, it was good, I replaced the coil pick up thinking it was
> going bad. Any suggestions?




DougW 10-03-2003 05:39 PM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
Ed Wojciechowski did pass the time by typing:
> First time posting...the car has roughly 140k on it. The problem is, when
> you're driving it just dies on you. The tach goes to zero and seconds later
> there is no power. But, there are times that the tach goes to zero and it
> does not die. No check engine light comes on, so this is no help. I checked
> the crank sensor, it was good, I replaced the coil pick up thinking it was
> going bad. Any suggestions?


Hmm.

Well, if your sure it's not the CPS, that leaves a few other options.
A bad ESD relay (Emergency Shutdown) can do this. 9.00 part but can be
easily tested. It's in the relay center behind the battery.

What do the codes tell you?
http://members.cox.net/wilsond/engine_codes.html

Tach hitting zero sounds more like an electrical problem, the
CPS (Cam Position Sensor) located in the distributor might be
your cause.

Other possibilites are loose ground/pos connections, rusted out
engine ground strap, etc.

Start with the codes.

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DougW




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