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Ed Wojciechowski 10-03-2003 11:25 AM

'96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
First time posting...the car has roughly 140k on it. The problem is, when
you're driving it just dies on you. The tach goes to zero and seconds later
there is no power. But, there are times that the tach goes to zero and it
does not die. No check engine light comes on, so this is no help. I checked
the crank sensor, it was good, I replaced the coil pick up thinking it was
going bad. Any suggestions?

Mike Romain 10-03-2003 11:50 AM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
Dirty ground strap from the firewall to the engine head caused that for
my 88 Cherokee.

Figured it out when backing out of the driveway to park it after a CPS
change. Sucker up and died on me again.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Ed Wojciechowski wrote:
>
> First time posting...the car has roughly 140k on it. The problem is, when
> you're driving it just dies on you. The tach goes to zero and seconds later
> there is no power. But, there are times that the tach goes to zero and it
> does not die. No check engine light comes on, so this is no help. I checked
> the crank sensor, it was good, I replaced the coil pick up thinking it was
> going bad. Any suggestions?


Mike Romain 10-03-2003 11:50 AM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
Dirty ground strap from the firewall to the engine head caused that for
my 88 Cherokee.

Figured it out when backing out of the driveway to park it after a CPS
change. Sucker up and died on me again.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Ed Wojciechowski wrote:
>
> First time posting...the car has roughly 140k on it. The problem is, when
> you're driving it just dies on you. The tach goes to zero and seconds later
> there is no power. But, there are times that the tach goes to zero and it
> does not die. No check engine light comes on, so this is no help. I checked
> the crank sensor, it was good, I replaced the coil pick up thinking it was
> going bad. Any suggestions?


Mike Romain 10-03-2003 11:50 AM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
Dirty ground strap from the firewall to the engine head caused that for
my 88 Cherokee.

Figured it out when backing out of the driveway to park it after a CPS
change. Sucker up and died on me again.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Ed Wojciechowski wrote:
>
> First time posting...the car has roughly 140k on it. The problem is, when
> you're driving it just dies on you. The tach goes to zero and seconds later
> there is no power. But, there are times that the tach goes to zero and it
> does not die. No check engine light comes on, so this is no help. I checked
> the crank sensor, it was good, I replaced the coil pick up thinking it was
> going bad. Any suggestions?


Joe 10-03-2003 12:00 PM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
Stop calling it a "car"... It's a Jeep, you pissed it off.
I'd guess you have a short somewhere. This used to happen to my Taurus...
it would die, i'd turn the key to off then restart it. It would start every
time. It would die about every 50 miles (makes a 300 mile trip annoying...
had to drive in right hand lane the whole way so that in case it died I
could pull over). I never figured out what the problem was, I sold it
instead.

"Ed Wojciechowski" <wojo@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote in message
news:2129515.1065180340@boldme12.andrew.ad.cmu.edu ...
> First time posting...the car has roughly 140k on it. The problem is, when
> you're driving it just dies on you. The tach goes to zero and seconds

later
> there is no power. But, there are times that the tach goes to zero and it
> does not die. No check engine light comes on, so this is no help. I

checked
> the crank sensor, it was good, I replaced the coil pick up thinking it was
> going bad. Any suggestions?




Joe 10-03-2003 12:00 PM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
Stop calling it a "car"... It's a Jeep, you pissed it off.
I'd guess you have a short somewhere. This used to happen to my Taurus...
it would die, i'd turn the key to off then restart it. It would start every
time. It would die about every 50 miles (makes a 300 mile trip annoying...
had to drive in right hand lane the whole way so that in case it died I
could pull over). I never figured out what the problem was, I sold it
instead.

"Ed Wojciechowski" <wojo@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote in message
news:2129515.1065180340@boldme12.andrew.ad.cmu.edu ...
> First time posting...the car has roughly 140k on it. The problem is, when
> you're driving it just dies on you. The tach goes to zero and seconds

later
> there is no power. But, there are times that the tach goes to zero and it
> does not die. No check engine light comes on, so this is no help. I

checked
> the crank sensor, it was good, I replaced the coil pick up thinking it was
> going bad. Any suggestions?




Joe 10-03-2003 12:00 PM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
Stop calling it a "car"... It's a Jeep, you pissed it off.
I'd guess you have a short somewhere. This used to happen to my Taurus...
it would die, i'd turn the key to off then restart it. It would start every
time. It would die about every 50 miles (makes a 300 mile trip annoying...
had to drive in right hand lane the whole way so that in case it died I
could pull over). I never figured out what the problem was, I sold it
instead.

"Ed Wojciechowski" <wojo@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote in message
news:2129515.1065180340@boldme12.andrew.ad.cmu.edu ...
> First time posting...the car has roughly 140k on it. The problem is, when
> you're driving it just dies on you. The tach goes to zero and seconds

later
> there is no power. But, there are times that the tach goes to zero and it
> does not die. No check engine light comes on, so this is no help. I

checked
> the crank sensor, it was good, I replaced the coil pick up thinking it was
> going bad. Any suggestions?




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-03-2003 12:15 PM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
Your ignition switch was falling apart and should have been fix
under the Ford recall. Think back, it usually died when your knee bumped
the steering column as in make a turn.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Joe wrote:
>
> Stop calling it a "car"... It's a Jeep, you pissed it off.
> I'd guess you have a short somewhere. This used to happen to my Taurus...
> it would die, i'd turn the key to off then restart it. It would start every
> time. It would die about every 50 miles (makes a 300 mile trip annoying...
> had to drive in right hand lane the whole way so that in case it died I
> could pull over). I never figured out what the problem was, I sold it
> instead.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-03-2003 12:15 PM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
Your ignition switch was falling apart and should have been fix
under the Ford recall. Think back, it usually died when your knee bumped
the steering column as in make a turn.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Joe wrote:
>
> Stop calling it a "car"... It's a Jeep, you pissed it off.
> I'd guess you have a short somewhere. This used to happen to my Taurus...
> it would die, i'd turn the key to off then restart it. It would start every
> time. It would die about every 50 miles (makes a 300 mile trip annoying...
> had to drive in right hand lane the whole way so that in case it died I
> could pull over). I never figured out what the problem was, I sold it
> instead.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-03-2003 12:15 PM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
Your ignition switch was falling apart and should have been fix
under the Ford recall. Think back, it usually died when your knee bumped
the steering column as in make a turn.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Joe wrote:
>
> Stop calling it a "car"... It's a Jeep, you pissed it off.
> I'd guess you have a short somewhere. This used to happen to my Taurus...
> it would die, i'd turn the key to off then restart it. It would start every
> time. It would die about every 50 miles (makes a 300 mile trip annoying...
> had to drive in right hand lane the whole way so that in case it died I
> could pull over). I never figured out what the problem was, I sold it
> instead.


Joe 10-03-2003 12:48 PM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
Straight higway.
Just died. No bumping that I recall (about 10 years ago now)

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F7DA0A1.EADA282B@cox.net...
> Your ignition switch was falling apart and should have been fix
> under the Ford recall. Think back, it usually died when your knee bumped
> the steering column as in make a turn.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Joe wrote:
> >
> > Stop calling it a "car"... It's a Jeep, you pissed it off.
> > I'd guess you have a short somewhere. This used to happen to my

Taurus...
> > it would die, i'd turn the key to off then restart it. It would start

every
> > time. It would die about every 50 miles (makes a 300 mile trip

annoying...
> > had to drive in right hand lane the whole way so that in case it died I
> > could pull over). I never figured out what the problem was, I sold it
> > instead.




Joe 10-03-2003 12:48 PM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
Straight higway.
Just died. No bumping that I recall (about 10 years ago now)

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F7DA0A1.EADA282B@cox.net...
> Your ignition switch was falling apart and should have been fix
> under the Ford recall. Think back, it usually died when your knee bumped
> the steering column as in make a turn.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Joe wrote:
> >
> > Stop calling it a "car"... It's a Jeep, you pissed it off.
> > I'd guess you have a short somewhere. This used to happen to my

Taurus...
> > it would die, i'd turn the key to off then restart it. It would start

every
> > time. It would die about every 50 miles (makes a 300 mile trip

annoying...
> > had to drive in right hand lane the whole way so that in case it died I
> > could pull over). I never figured out what the problem was, I sold it
> > instead.




Joe 10-03-2003 12:48 PM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
Straight higway.
Just died. No bumping that I recall (about 10 years ago now)

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F7DA0A1.EADA282B@cox.net...
> Your ignition switch was falling apart and should have been fix
> under the Ford recall. Think back, it usually died when your knee bumped
> the steering column as in make a turn.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Joe wrote:
> >
> > Stop calling it a "car"... It's a Jeep, you pissed it off.
> > I'd guess you have a short somewhere. This used to happen to my

Taurus...
> > it would die, i'd turn the key to off then restart it. It would start

every
> > time. It would die about every 50 miles (makes a 300 mile trip

annoying...
> > had to drive in right hand lane the whole way so that in case it died I
> > could pull over). I never figured out what the problem was, I sold it
> > instead.




Lon Stowell 10-03-2003 01:16 PM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
Approximately 10/3/03 08:25, Ed Wojciechowski uttered for posterity:

> First time posting...the car has roughly 140k on it. The problem is, when
> you're driving it just dies on you. The tach goes to zero and seconds later
> there is no power. But, there are times that the tach goes to zero and it
> does not die. No check engine light comes on, so this is no help. I checked
> the crank sensor, it was good, I replaced the coil pick up thinking it was
> going bad. Any suggestions?


Check the crankshaft position sensor. You may also want to pull
the fault codes. Allegedly on the 96 ZJ you'll need a scan tool,
which a local parts place may be willing to do.


Lon Stowell 10-03-2003 01:16 PM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
Approximately 10/3/03 08:25, Ed Wojciechowski uttered for posterity:

> First time posting...the car has roughly 140k on it. The problem is, when
> you're driving it just dies on you. The tach goes to zero and seconds later
> there is no power. But, there are times that the tach goes to zero and it
> does not die. No check engine light comes on, so this is no help. I checked
> the crank sensor, it was good, I replaced the coil pick up thinking it was
> going bad. Any suggestions?


Check the crankshaft position sensor. You may also want to pull
the fault codes. Allegedly on the 96 ZJ you'll need a scan tool,
which a local parts place may be willing to do.


Lon Stowell 10-03-2003 01:16 PM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
Approximately 10/3/03 08:25, Ed Wojciechowski uttered for posterity:

> First time posting...the car has roughly 140k on it. The problem is, when
> you're driving it just dies on you. The tach goes to zero and seconds later
> there is no power. But, there are times that the tach goes to zero and it
> does not die. No check engine light comes on, so this is no help. I checked
> the crank sensor, it was good, I replaced the coil pick up thinking it was
> going bad. Any suggestions?


Check the crankshaft position sensor. You may also want to pull
the fault codes. Allegedly on the 96 ZJ you'll need a scan tool,
which a local parts place may be willing to do.


Jerry Bransford 10-03-2003 01:52 PM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
That sounds exactly like the crankshaft position sensor is crapping out.

Jerry
--
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"Ed Wojciechowski" <wojo@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote in message
news:2129515.1065180340@boldme12.andrew.ad.cmu.edu ...
> First time posting...the car has roughly 140k on it. The problem is, when
> you're driving it just dies on you. The tach goes to zero and seconds

later
> there is no power. But, there are times that the tach goes to zero and it
> does not die. No check engine light comes on, so this is no help. I

checked
> the crank sensor, it was good, I replaced the coil pick up thinking it was
> going bad. Any suggestions?




Jerry Bransford 10-03-2003 01:52 PM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
That sounds exactly like the crankshaft position sensor is crapping out.

Jerry
--
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To email, remove 'me' from my email address
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"Ed Wojciechowski" <wojo@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote in message
news:2129515.1065180340@boldme12.andrew.ad.cmu.edu ...
> First time posting...the car has roughly 140k on it. The problem is, when
> you're driving it just dies on you. The tach goes to zero and seconds

later
> there is no power. But, there are times that the tach goes to zero and it
> does not die. No check engine light comes on, so this is no help. I

checked
> the crank sensor, it was good, I replaced the coil pick up thinking it was
> going bad. Any suggestions?




Jerry Bransford 10-03-2003 01:52 PM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
That sounds exactly like the crankshaft position sensor is crapping out.

Jerry
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To email, remove 'me' from my email address
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"Ed Wojciechowski" <wojo@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote in message
news:2129515.1065180340@boldme12.andrew.ad.cmu.edu ...
> First time posting...the car has roughly 140k on it. The problem is, when
> you're driving it just dies on you. The tach goes to zero and seconds

later
> there is no power. But, there are times that the tach goes to zero and it
> does not die. No check engine light comes on, so this is no help. I

checked
> the crank sensor, it was good, I replaced the coil pick up thinking it was
> going bad. Any suggestions?




DougW 10-03-2003 05:39 PM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
Ed Wojciechowski did pass the time by typing:
> First time posting...the car has roughly 140k on it. The problem is, when
> you're driving it just dies on you. The tach goes to zero and seconds later
> there is no power. But, there are times that the tach goes to zero and it
> does not die. No check engine light comes on, so this is no help. I checked
> the crank sensor, it was good, I replaced the coil pick up thinking it was
> going bad. Any suggestions?


Hmm.

Well, if your sure it's not the CPS, that leaves a few other options.
A bad ESD relay (Emergency Shutdown) can do this. 9.00 part but can be
easily tested. It's in the relay center behind the battery.

What do the codes tell you?
http://members.cox.net/wilsond/engine_codes.html

Tach hitting zero sounds more like an electrical problem, the
CPS (Cam Position Sensor) located in the distributor might be
your cause.

Other possibilites are loose ground/pos connections, rusted out
engine ground strap, etc.

Start with the codes.

--
DougW



DougW 10-03-2003 05:39 PM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
Ed Wojciechowski did pass the time by typing:
> First time posting...the car has roughly 140k on it. The problem is, when
> you're driving it just dies on you. The tach goes to zero and seconds later
> there is no power. But, there are times that the tach goes to zero and it
> does not die. No check engine light comes on, so this is no help. I checked
> the crank sensor, it was good, I replaced the coil pick up thinking it was
> going bad. Any suggestions?


Hmm.

Well, if your sure it's not the CPS, that leaves a few other options.
A bad ESD relay (Emergency Shutdown) can do this. 9.00 part but can be
easily tested. It's in the relay center behind the battery.

What do the codes tell you?
http://members.cox.net/wilsond/engine_codes.html

Tach hitting zero sounds more like an electrical problem, the
CPS (Cam Position Sensor) located in the distributor might be
your cause.

Other possibilites are loose ground/pos connections, rusted out
engine ground strap, etc.

Start with the codes.

--
DougW



DougW 10-03-2003 05:39 PM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
Ed Wojciechowski did pass the time by typing:
> First time posting...the car has roughly 140k on it. The problem is, when
> you're driving it just dies on you. The tach goes to zero and seconds later
> there is no power. But, there are times that the tach goes to zero and it
> does not die. No check engine light comes on, so this is no help. I checked
> the crank sensor, it was good, I replaced the coil pick up thinking it was
> going bad. Any suggestions?


Hmm.

Well, if your sure it's not the CPS, that leaves a few other options.
A bad ESD relay (Emergency Shutdown) can do this. 9.00 part but can be
easily tested. It's in the relay center behind the battery.

What do the codes tell you?
http://members.cox.net/wilsond/engine_codes.html

Tach hitting zero sounds more like an electrical problem, the
CPS (Cam Position Sensor) located in the distributor might be
your cause.

Other possibilites are loose ground/pos connections, rusted out
engine ground strap, etc.

Start with the codes.

--
DougW



Jerry Bransford 10-03-2003 07:48 PM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
As an aside, how did you check and determine that the crankshaft position
sensor was good? If it's intermittent, it'd be hard to know for sure one
way or the other.

Jerry
--
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"Ed Wojciechowski" <wojo@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote in message
news:2129515.1065180340@boldme12.andrew.ad.cmu.edu ...
> First time posting...the car has roughly 140k on it. The problem is, when
> you're driving it just dies on you. The tach goes to zero and seconds

later
> there is no power. But, there are times that the tach goes to zero and it
> does not die. No check engine light comes on, so this is no help. I

checked
> the crank sensor, it was good, I replaced the coil pick up thinking it was
> going bad. Any suggestions?




Jerry Bransford 10-03-2003 07:48 PM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
As an aside, how did you check and determine that the crankshaft position
sensor was good? If it's intermittent, it'd be hard to know for sure one
way or the other.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
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"Ed Wojciechowski" <wojo@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote in message
news:2129515.1065180340@boldme12.andrew.ad.cmu.edu ...
> First time posting...the car has roughly 140k on it. The problem is, when
> you're driving it just dies on you. The tach goes to zero and seconds

later
> there is no power. But, there are times that the tach goes to zero and it
> does not die. No check engine light comes on, so this is no help. I

checked
> the crank sensor, it was good, I replaced the coil pick up thinking it was
> going bad. Any suggestions?




Jerry Bransford 10-03-2003 07:48 PM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
As an aside, how did you check and determine that the crankshaft position
sensor was good? If it's intermittent, it'd be hard to know for sure one
way or the other.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"Ed Wojciechowski" <wojo@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote in message
news:2129515.1065180340@boldme12.andrew.ad.cmu.edu ...
> First time posting...the car has roughly 140k on it. The problem is, when
> you're driving it just dies on you. The tach goes to zero and seconds

later
> there is no power. But, there are times that the tach goes to zero and it
> does not die. No check engine light comes on, so this is no help. I

checked
> the crank sensor, it was good, I replaced the coil pick up thinking it was
> going bad. Any suggestions?




Snow 10-04-2003 11:02 AM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
I had an intermittent CPS on my J**P a few years ago, it would keep stalling
and would die, when the tach dropped to zero, unless you happened to "punch"
the gas at the correct time, but achieving this timing was difficult when
your in the passing lane doing 70-80 mph down the highway (not to mention
the pucker factor involved). Eventually after many trips to the stealership
the J**P expert (he knew his J**P's inside and out, very good guy) decided
to change the CPS on spec. 4 years ands thousand of km's later no more
problems with unwanted stalling.

Snow... 93 XJ, 4.0, 90% stock & 85% new.


"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:eVnfb.40144$gv5.16263@fed1read05...
> As an aside, how did you check and determine that the crankshaft position
> sensor was good? If it's intermittent, it'd be hard to know for sure one
> way or the other.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Ed Wojciechowski" <wojo@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote in message
> news:2129515.1065180340@boldme12.andrew.ad.cmu.edu ...
> > First time posting...the car has roughly 140k on it. The problem is,

when
> > you're driving it just dies on you. The tach goes to zero and seconds

> later
> > there is no power. But, there are times that the tach goes to zero and

it
> > does not die. No check engine light comes on, so this is no help. I

> checked
> > the crank sensor, it was good, I replaced the coil pick up thinking it

was
> > going bad. Any suggestions?

>
>




Snow 10-04-2003 11:02 AM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
I had an intermittent CPS on my J**P a few years ago, it would keep stalling
and would die, when the tach dropped to zero, unless you happened to "punch"
the gas at the correct time, but achieving this timing was difficult when
your in the passing lane doing 70-80 mph down the highway (not to mention
the pucker factor involved). Eventually after many trips to the stealership
the J**P expert (he knew his J**P's inside and out, very good guy) decided
to change the CPS on spec. 4 years ands thousand of km's later no more
problems with unwanted stalling.

Snow... 93 XJ, 4.0, 90% stock & 85% new.


"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:eVnfb.40144$gv5.16263@fed1read05...
> As an aside, how did you check and determine that the crankshaft position
> sensor was good? If it's intermittent, it'd be hard to know for sure one
> way or the other.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Ed Wojciechowski" <wojo@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote in message
> news:2129515.1065180340@boldme12.andrew.ad.cmu.edu ...
> > First time posting...the car has roughly 140k on it. The problem is,

when
> > you're driving it just dies on you. The tach goes to zero and seconds

> later
> > there is no power. But, there are times that the tach goes to zero and

it
> > does not die. No check engine light comes on, so this is no help. I

> checked
> > the crank sensor, it was good, I replaced the coil pick up thinking it

was
> > going bad. Any suggestions?

>
>




Snow 10-04-2003 11:02 AM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
I had an intermittent CPS on my J**P a few years ago, it would keep stalling
and would die, when the tach dropped to zero, unless you happened to "punch"
the gas at the correct time, but achieving this timing was difficult when
your in the passing lane doing 70-80 mph down the highway (not to mention
the pucker factor involved). Eventually after many trips to the stealership
the J**P expert (he knew his J**P's inside and out, very good guy) decided
to change the CPS on spec. 4 years ands thousand of km's later no more
problems with unwanted stalling.

Snow... 93 XJ, 4.0, 90% stock & 85% new.


"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:eVnfb.40144$gv5.16263@fed1read05...
> As an aside, how did you check and determine that the crankshaft position
> sensor was good? If it's intermittent, it'd be hard to know for sure one
> way or the other.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Ed Wojciechowski" <wojo@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote in message
> news:2129515.1065180340@boldme12.andrew.ad.cmu.edu ...
> > First time posting...the car has roughly 140k on it. The problem is,

when
> > you're driving it just dies on you. The tach goes to zero and seconds

> later
> > there is no power. But, there are times that the tach goes to zero and

it
> > does not die. No check engine light comes on, so this is no help. I

> checked
> > the crank sensor, it was good, I replaced the coil pick up thinking it

was
> > going bad. Any suggestions?

>
>




Don 07-01-2004 09:13 PM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
Maybe the pcm has gone bad. It does happen to all vehicles sometimes.

In article <2129515.1065180340@boldme12.andrew.ad.cmu.edu>,
Ed Wojciechowski <wojo@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:

> First time posting...the car has roughly 140k on it. The problem is, when
> you're driving it just dies on you. The tach goes to zero and seconds later
> there is no power. But, there are times that the tach goes to zero and it
> does not die. No check engine light comes on, so this is no help. I checked
> the crank sensor, it was good, I replaced the coil pick up thinking it was
> going bad. Any suggestions?


--
America Bless God.

Don 07-01-2004 09:13 PM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
Maybe the pcm has gone bad. It does happen to all vehicles sometimes.

In article <2129515.1065180340@boldme12.andrew.ad.cmu.edu>,
Ed Wojciechowski <wojo@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:

> First time posting...the car has roughly 140k on it. The problem is, when
> you're driving it just dies on you. The tach goes to zero and seconds later
> there is no power. But, there are times that the tach goes to zero and it
> does not die. No check engine light comes on, so this is no help. I checked
> the crank sensor, it was good, I replaced the coil pick up thinking it was
> going bad. Any suggestions?


--
America Bless God.

Don 07-01-2004 09:13 PM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
Maybe the pcm has gone bad. It does happen to all vehicles sometimes.

In article <2129515.1065180340@boldme12.andrew.ad.cmu.edu>,
Ed Wojciechowski <wojo@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:

> First time posting...the car has roughly 140k on it. The problem is, when
> you're driving it just dies on you. The tach goes to zero and seconds later
> there is no power. But, there are times that the tach goes to zero and it
> does not die. No check engine light comes on, so this is no help. I checked
> the crank sensor, it was good, I replaced the coil pick up thinking it was
> going bad. Any suggestions?


--
America Bless God.

Don 07-01-2004 09:13 PM

Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
Maybe the pcm has gone bad. It does happen to all vehicles sometimes.

In article <2129515.1065180340@boldme12.andrew.ad.cmu.edu>,
Ed Wojciechowski <wojo@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:

> First time posting...the car has roughly 140k on it. The problem is, when
> you're driving it just dies on you. The tach goes to zero and seconds later
> there is no power. But, there are times that the tach goes to zero and it
> does not die. No check engine light comes on, so this is no help. I checked
> the crank sensor, it was good, I replaced the coil pick up thinking it was
> going bad. Any suggestions?


--
America Bless God.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 07-01-2004 09:47 PM

OT Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
Ever notice now Mac users can't get it together and answer posts
like this one from October 3, 2003?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Don wrote:
>
> Maybe the pcm has gone bad. It does happen to all vehicles sometimes.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 07-01-2004 09:47 PM

OT Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
Ever notice now Mac users can't get it together and answer posts
like this one from October 3, 2003?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Don wrote:
>
> Maybe the pcm has gone bad. It does happen to all vehicles sometimes.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 07-01-2004 09:47 PM

OT Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
Ever notice now Mac users can't get it together and answer posts
like this one from October 3, 2003?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Don wrote:
>
> Maybe the pcm has gone bad. It does happen to all vehicles sometimes.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 07-01-2004 09:47 PM

OT Re: '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - dies while driving......
 
Ever notice now Mac users can't get it together and answer posts
like this one from October 3, 2003?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Don wrote:
>
> Maybe the pcm has gone bad. It does happen to all vehicles sometimes.



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