Re: 96 Grand Cherokee Stalling
 

If you happen to be low on gas this would be an opportune time to drop the
tank and clean the gunk out of it.

You have to remember that it, most likely, isn't just crapoline from one
tank fillup but many (unless that load was particularly bad).

FWIW I got a tankfull of bad Shell gasoline back in the earlier '80s but
that Shell station pretty much told me to 'drop dead creep' when I asked
about a refund. After I drained out the 20 gallons and replaced it with
some Chevron from the lawn mower gas can and a new $1.99 filter it fired
right up.

I've only bought gas from Shell a few times in the intervening 20+ years...
not that they miss my business all that much. That particular station might
have.... I got 20 gallons three times a week (100 mile round trip to work)
and the business went to the Chevron directly across the street.

<dougguitar@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1164123138.123932.159530@m7g2000cwm.googlegro ups.com...
>
> DougW wrote:
>>
>> That is telling you something.
>>
>> Take your nice new shiny filter off.
>> Put your fingers over the holes and shake it.
>> Turn it input side down over a glass and see what comes out.
>>
>> You might have a tank full of crapoline
>> http://revbeergoggles.com/badgas/
>>
>> I have gone through three filters to get the last load
>> out of the tank.. but usually they clog after a few thousand
>> miles.
>>
>> --
>> DougW
>
> Well, when I changed the old filter (which had been in place far longer
> than I'd like to admit), I was a bit surprised at the dark brown goo
> that poured out of the inlet side of it. However, this has been going
> on for a couple of months now (happening more and more often), so if
> it's crapoline I must have an uncanny knack for finding it. I usually
> fill up with cheap gas at Walmart/Murphy, so maybe...
>
> A new wrinkle to add this morning: After driving about twenty minutes
> this morning, I stopped the vehicle to go in and run an errand. Came
> back out about five minutes later, and it didn't want to start. This is
> a first. I've never had a problem with a "cold" start.
> It would crank fine, of course, but not start. After about 2 to 3
> minutes of trying, it did finally start. If it does this again, I'll
> tap the fuel pressure valve and see if it has pressure.
>
> Solving this mystery would be fun if it weren't:
> A) An expensive pain in the butt, and
> B) leaving me stalled out in rush hour traffic frequently. Most of the
> time it idles and runs fine. But these random problems always occur at
> the worst time. :-)
>
> Thanks for all the suggestions, guys. Hopefully, I'll have time to nail
> it over the long weekend.
>
> Doug B.
>

Re: 96 Grand Cherokee Stalling
 

If you happen to be low on gas this would be an opportune time to drop the
tank and clean the gunk out of it.

You have to remember that it, most likely, isn't just crapoline from one
tank fillup but many (unless that load was particularly bad).

FWIW I got a tankfull of bad Shell gasoline back in the earlier '80s but
that Shell station pretty much told me to 'drop dead creep' when I asked
about a refund. After I drained out the 20 gallons and replaced it with
some Chevron from the lawn mower gas can and a new $1.99 filter it fired
right up.

I've only bought gas from Shell a few times in the intervening 20+ years...
not that they miss my business all that much. That particular station might
have.... I got 20 gallons three times a week (100 mile round trip to work)
and the business went to the Chevron directly across the street.

<dougguitar@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1164123138.123932.159530@m7g2000cwm.googlegro ups.com...
>
> DougW wrote:
>>
>> That is telling you something.
>>
>> Take your nice new shiny filter off.
>> Put your fingers over the holes and shake it.
>> Turn it input side down over a glass and see what comes out.
>>
>> You might have a tank full of crapoline
>> http://revbeergoggles.com/badgas/
>>
>> I have gone through three filters to get the last load
>> out of the tank.. but usually they clog after a few thousand
>> miles.
>>
>> --
>> DougW
>
> Well, when I changed the old filter (which had been in place far longer
> than I'd like to admit), I was a bit surprised at the dark brown goo
> that poured out of the inlet side of it. However, this has been going
> on for a couple of months now (happening more and more often), so if
> it's crapoline I must have an uncanny knack for finding it. I usually
> fill up with cheap gas at Walmart/Murphy, so maybe...
>
> A new wrinkle to add this morning: After driving about twenty minutes
> this morning, I stopped the vehicle to go in and run an errand. Came
> back out about five minutes later, and it didn't want to start. This is
> a first. I've never had a problem with a "cold" start.
> It would crank fine, of course, but not start. After about 2 to 3
> minutes of trying, it did finally start. If it does this again, I'll
> tap the fuel pressure valve and see if it has pressure.
>
> Solving this mystery would be fun if it weren't:
> A) An expensive pain in the butt, and
> B) leaving me stalled out in rush hour traffic frequently. Most of the
> time it idles and runs fine. But these random problems always occur at
> the worst time. :-)
>
> Thanks for all the suggestions, guys. Hopefully, I'll have time to nail
> it over the long weekend.
>
> Doug B.
>

Re: 96 Grand Cherokee Stalling
 

Maybe the cat is going bad.

Later Mike

Re: 96 Grand Cherokee Stalling
 

Maybe the cat is going bad.

Later Mike

Re: 96 Grand Cherokee Stalling
 

Maybe the cat is going bad.

Later Mike

Re: 96 Grand Cherokee Stalling
 

Mike chambers wrote:
> Maybe the cat is going bad.
>
> Later Mike

Oh, the "cat" is definitely bad. It's getting replaced for free in the
morning via a recall notice DC just put out on my Grand Cherokee. It's
been rattling like a box full of cans tumbling down a staircase for
about a year now. Sometimes procrastination pays off.

I'm off to get contact cleaner and spark plugs.

Doug B.

Re: 96 Grand Cherokee Stalling
 

Mike chambers wrote:
> Maybe the cat is going bad.
>
> Later Mike

Oh, the "cat" is definitely bad. It's getting replaced for free in the
morning via a recall notice DC just put out on my Grand Cherokee. It's
been rattling like a box full of cans tumbling down a staircase for
about a year now. Sometimes procrastination pays off.

I'm off to get contact cleaner and spark plugs.

Doug B.

Re: 96 Grand Cherokee Stalling
 

Mike chambers wrote:
> Maybe the cat is going bad.
>
> Later Mike

Oh, the "cat" is definitely bad. It's getting replaced for free in the
morning via a recall notice DC just put out on my Grand Cherokee. It's
been rattling like a box full of cans tumbling down a staircase for
about a year now. Sometimes procrastination pays off.

I'm off to get contact cleaner and spark plugs.

Doug B.

Re: 96 Grand Cherokee Stalling
 

dougguitar wrote:
> Mike chambers wrote:
>> Maybe the cat is going bad.
>>
>> Later Mike
>
> Oh, the "cat" is definitely bad. It's getting replaced for free in the
> morning via a recall notice DC just put out on my Grand Cherokee. It's
> been rattling like a box full of cans tumbling down a staircase for
> about a year now. Sometimes procrastination pays off.
>
> I'm off to get contact cleaner and spark plugs.

When you pull the old plugs note which cyl they are for
and in what condition the ends are. A little grey or
black stuff is fine.

If you haven't done it before, the cap/rotor/wires are also
way past expected lifetime. Also take a look in the
distributor and see if there is any oil down there. Oil
indicates the lower bushing is worn and if the rotor wiggles
at all from side to side then you should get a new distributor.
(cheaper than rebuilding) I did mine a while back.
http://revbeergoggles.com/distributor/

--
DougW

Re: 96 Grand Cherokee Stalling
 

dougguitar wrote:
> Mike chambers wrote:
>> Maybe the cat is going bad.
>>
>> Later Mike
>
> Oh, the "cat" is definitely bad. It's getting replaced for free in the
> morning via a recall notice DC just put out on my Grand Cherokee. It's
> been rattling like a box full of cans tumbling down a staircase for
> about a year now. Sometimes procrastination pays off.
>
> I'm off to get contact cleaner and spark plugs.

When you pull the old plugs note which cyl they are for
and in what condition the ends are. A little grey or
black stuff is fine.

If you haven't done it before, the cap/rotor/wires are also
way past expected lifetime. Also take a look in the
distributor and see if there is any oil down there. Oil
indicates the lower bushing is worn and if the rotor wiggles
at all from side to side then you should get a new distributor.
(cheaper than rebuilding) I did mine a while back.
http://revbeergoggles.com/distributor/

--
DougW