jim m

Backround:
We have a 96 GC with 91,000 miles. About ten times since November the Jeep
will shake violently at speeds over 45 mph. It doesn't always happen at the
same speed though. Slowing to under 20mph will stop the shakes. In
anticipation of our 250 mile vacation trip I rotated and balanced the tires,
and replaced all 4 shocks (Rancho 5000's). I couldn't move any suspension
parts with a crowbar except the ball joints have just enough up and down
movement to to say that there is movement can be felt but not seen. No
sideways movement. The first drive after the work I had the shakes again
after only 1 1/2 miles. It lasted 3 miles (I only slowed to about 35~40 mph)
until I had a stop sign. With only 4 days before vacation I dropped the
front driveshaft. Unsure that it made a difference, but made the trip
without driveshaft or the shakes. All the driveshaft universals feel good.
The front-most one is only 1 yr old.

When a bump is hit Jeep kinda feels like we get an extra shudder after the
suspension movement. Not like bad shocks though. It may even be how the
shakes actually start but they are so seldom that it catches you by suprise.

My next step was going to be a new steering stabilizer but the shake is not
in the steering wheel.

Today, with the wife driving and myself underneath, I noticed the front axle
rotating (caster) while shifting from drive to reverse and back and playing
with the brakes. The movement is in the bushing at the front of the lower
suspension bars where the caster adjusters are located. Just by eye it seems
to be about 1/8th inch of movement. I could not move this with the crowbar
two week ago. I imagine that this should definately be affecting the caster.
It seems that it could also cause the "extra shudder" but how about the
shakes? Are these bushings able to be replaced? Do I need whole new arms?
Can this be done without an air compressor and/or a torch? Just basic hand
tools in a driveway.

Any comments or other ideas are greatly appreciated.

Thanks. Jim







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DougW

jim m wrote:

deathwobble

Check the tread depth on your tires and put the two
closest ones up front. See if that helps.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Hi Jim,
You may have alignment problem with worn out parts but it is
impossible to shimmy with a good stabilizer shock absorber:
http://www.jcwhitney.com/product.jht...equestid=67804
Replace it.
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jim m wrote:
>
> Backround:
> We have a 96 GC with 91,000 miles. About ten times since November the Jeep
> will shake violently at speeds over 45 mph. It doesn't always happen at the
> same speed though. Slowing to under 20mph will stop the shakes. In
> anticipation of our 250 mile vacation trip I rotated and balanced the tires,
> and replaced all 4 shocks (Rancho 5000's). I couldn't move any suspension
> parts with a crowbar except the ball joints have just enough up and down
> movement to to say that there is movement can be felt but not seen. No
> sideways movement. The first drive after the work I had the shakes again
> after only 1 1/2 miles. It lasted 3 miles (I only slowed to about 35~40 mph)
> until I had a stop sign. With only 4 days before vacation I dropped the
> front driveshaft. Unsure that it made a difference, but made the trip
> without driveshaft or the shakes. All the driveshaft universals feel good.
> The front-most one is only 1 yr old.
>
> When a bump is hit Jeep kinda feels like we get an extra shudder after the
> suspension movement. Not like bad shocks though. It may even be how the
> shakes actually start but they are so seldom that it catches you by suprise.
>
> My next step was going to be a new steering stabilizer but the shake is not
> in the steering wheel.
>
> Today, with the wife driving and myself underneath, I noticed the front axle
> rotating (caster) while shifting from drive to reverse and back and playing
> with the brakes. The movement is in the bushing at the front of the lower
> suspension bars where the caster adjusters are located. Just by eye it seems
> to be about 1/8th inch of movement. I could not move this with the crowbar
> two week ago. I imagine that this should definately be affecting the caster.
> It seems that it could also cause the "extra shudder" but how about the
> shakes? Are these bushings able to be replaced? Do I need whole new arms?
> Can this be done without an air compressor and/or a torch? Just basic hand
> tools in a driveway.
>
> Any comments or other ideas are greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks. Jim
>
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Alon :\)

I had a death wobble in my 96 Cherokee that ended up being one of two things
which both changed at the same time:

1) Stearing dampner
2) Cupped tires

Good luck :)

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
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> jim m wrote:
>
> deathwobble
>
> Check the tread depth on your tires and put the two
> closest ones up front. See if that helps.
>
>
>

Dick

Most probable cause after the things you have changed is the trackbar.
That's about the mileage where they go.

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On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 21:07:50 -0400, "jim m" <onebadbug@vwmail.net>

wrote:

>Backround:
>We have a 96 GC with 91,000 miles. About ten times since November the Jeep
>will shake violently at speeds over 45 mph. It doesn't always happen at the
>same speed though. Slowing to under 20mph will stop the shakes.