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Rob Mills 10-28-2006 05:16 PM

96 Cherokee 4.0 starter problem. SOS, Help!
 
Having a problem with my 96 Cherokee (100k) 4.0 with 4 spd auto and 4
wheel drive starting.
Have new battery, starter (they even put in a second one, just in case)
and ignition switch. It's doing just like it did before I started replacing
items. It will start up just like it's supposed to for a week or so then it
will suddenly not start, it's DOA when you hit the starter. Let it sit for
awhile and it's ready to go. The problem will never occur when the
mechanics have it so they can really test things.
It's just starting to turn fall here and the mornings have been rather cool
and humid and the problem has worsened. It will start right up but if I
drive it a few blocks and turn it off, it will not start.
I'm real hesitate to just replace the neutral safety switch due to the high
cost, over $300 just for the part Anyone one else have similar problem
or have any ideas. Rob Mills

PS, We did swap the starter relay with the one for the lights, same relay
and it didn't help.








DougW 10-28-2006 07:51 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter problem. SOS, Help!
 
Rob Mills wrote:
> Having a problem with my 96 Cherokee (100k) 4.0 with 4 spd auto and 4
> wheel drive starting.
> Have new battery, starter (they even put in a second one, just in
> case) and ignition switch. It's doing just like it did before I
> started replacing items. It will start up just like it's supposed to
> for a week or so then it will suddenly not start, it's DOA when you
> hit the starter. Let it sit for awhile and it's ready to go. The
> problem will never occur when the mechanics have it so they can
> really test things. It's just starting to turn fall here and the mornings have been
> rather cool and humid and the problem has worsened. It will start
> right up but if I drive it a few blocks and turn it off, it will not
> start. I'm real hesitate to just replace the neutral safety switch due to
> the high cost, over $300 just for the part Anyone one else have
> similar problem or have any ideas. Rob Mills
>
> PS, We did swap the starter relay with the one for the lights, same
> relay and it didn't help.


Fist thought is to try starting in N rather that P
if that solves the problem then it is your safety switch
or the connector to it.

--
DougW



DougW 10-28-2006 07:51 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter problem. SOS, Help!
 
Rob Mills wrote:
> Having a problem with my 96 Cherokee (100k) 4.0 with 4 spd auto and 4
> wheel drive starting.
> Have new battery, starter (they even put in a second one, just in
> case) and ignition switch. It's doing just like it did before I
> started replacing items. It will start up just like it's supposed to
> for a week or so then it will suddenly not start, it's DOA when you
> hit the starter. Let it sit for awhile and it's ready to go. The
> problem will never occur when the mechanics have it so they can
> really test things. It's just starting to turn fall here and the mornings have been
> rather cool and humid and the problem has worsened. It will start
> right up but if I drive it a few blocks and turn it off, it will not
> start. I'm real hesitate to just replace the neutral safety switch due to
> the high cost, over $300 just for the part Anyone one else have
> similar problem or have any ideas. Rob Mills
>
> PS, We did swap the starter relay with the one for the lights, same
> relay and it didn't help.


Fist thought is to try starting in N rather that P
if that solves the problem then it is your safety switch
or the connector to it.

--
DougW



DougW 10-28-2006 07:51 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter problem. SOS, Help!
 
Rob Mills wrote:
> Having a problem with my 96 Cherokee (100k) 4.0 with 4 spd auto and 4
> wheel drive starting.
> Have new battery, starter (they even put in a second one, just in
> case) and ignition switch. It's doing just like it did before I
> started replacing items. It will start up just like it's supposed to
> for a week or so then it will suddenly not start, it's DOA when you
> hit the starter. Let it sit for awhile and it's ready to go. The
> problem will never occur when the mechanics have it so they can
> really test things. It's just starting to turn fall here and the mornings have been
> rather cool and humid and the problem has worsened. It will start
> right up but if I drive it a few blocks and turn it off, it will not
> start. I'm real hesitate to just replace the neutral safety switch due to
> the high cost, over $300 just for the part Anyone one else have
> similar problem or have any ideas. Rob Mills
>
> PS, We did swap the starter relay with the one for the lights, same
> relay and it didn't help.


Fist thought is to try starting in N rather that P
if that solves the problem then it is your safety switch
or the connector to it.

--
DougW



billy ray 10-28-2006 07:55 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter problem. SOS, Help!
 
Have you cleaned the cables and grounds on BOTH ends and checked for excess
resistance?


"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:2ZR0h.866$IC.720@newsfe21.lga...
> Rob Mills wrote:
>> Having a problem with my 96 Cherokee (100k) 4.0 with 4 spd auto and 4
>> wheel drive starting.
>> Have new battery, starter (they even put in a second one, just in
>> case) and ignition switch. It's doing just like it did before I
>> started replacing items. It will start up just like it's supposed to
>> for a week or so then it will suddenly not start, it's DOA when you
>> hit the starter. Let it sit for awhile and it's ready to go. The
>> problem will never occur when the mechanics have it so they can
>> really test things. It's just starting to turn fall here and the mornings
>> have been
>> rather cool and humid and the problem has worsened. It will start
>> right up but if I drive it a few blocks and turn it off, it will not
>> start. I'm real hesitate to just replace the neutral safety switch due to
>> the high cost, over $300 just for the part Anyone one else have
>> similar problem or have any ideas. Rob Mills
>>
>> PS, We did swap the starter relay with the one for the lights, same
>> relay and it didn't help.

>
> Fist thought is to try starting in N rather that P
> if that solves the problem then it is your safety switch
> or the connector to it.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>




billy ray 10-28-2006 07:55 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter problem. SOS, Help!
 
Have you cleaned the cables and grounds on BOTH ends and checked for excess
resistance?


"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:2ZR0h.866$IC.720@newsfe21.lga...
> Rob Mills wrote:
>> Having a problem with my 96 Cherokee (100k) 4.0 with 4 spd auto and 4
>> wheel drive starting.
>> Have new battery, starter (they even put in a second one, just in
>> case) and ignition switch. It's doing just like it did before I
>> started replacing items. It will start up just like it's supposed to
>> for a week or so then it will suddenly not start, it's DOA when you
>> hit the starter. Let it sit for awhile and it's ready to go. The
>> problem will never occur when the mechanics have it so they can
>> really test things. It's just starting to turn fall here and the mornings
>> have been
>> rather cool and humid and the problem has worsened. It will start
>> right up but if I drive it a few blocks and turn it off, it will not
>> start. I'm real hesitate to just replace the neutral safety switch due to
>> the high cost, over $300 just for the part Anyone one else have
>> similar problem or have any ideas. Rob Mills
>>
>> PS, We did swap the starter relay with the one for the lights, same
>> relay and it didn't help.

>
> Fist thought is to try starting in N rather that P
> if that solves the problem then it is your safety switch
> or the connector to it.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>




billy ray 10-28-2006 07:55 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter problem. SOS, Help!
 
Have you cleaned the cables and grounds on BOTH ends and checked for excess
resistance?


"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:2ZR0h.866$IC.720@newsfe21.lga...
> Rob Mills wrote:
>> Having a problem with my 96 Cherokee (100k) 4.0 with 4 spd auto and 4
>> wheel drive starting.
>> Have new battery, starter (they even put in a second one, just in
>> case) and ignition switch. It's doing just like it did before I
>> started replacing items. It will start up just like it's supposed to
>> for a week or so then it will suddenly not start, it's DOA when you
>> hit the starter. Let it sit for awhile and it's ready to go. The
>> problem will never occur when the mechanics have it so they can
>> really test things. It's just starting to turn fall here and the mornings
>> have been
>> rather cool and humid and the problem has worsened. It will start
>> right up but if I drive it a few blocks and turn it off, it will not
>> start. I'm real hesitate to just replace the neutral safety switch due to
>> the high cost, over $300 just for the part Anyone one else have
>> similar problem or have any ideas. Rob Mills
>>
>> PS, We did swap the starter relay with the one for the lights, same
>> relay and it didn't help.

>
> Fist thought is to try starting in N rather that P
> if that solves the problem then it is your safety switch
> or the connector to it.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>




Rob Mills 10-28-2006 09:02 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter problem. SOS, Help!
 

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:2ZR0h.866$IC.720@newsfe21.lga...

>>> Fist thought is to try starting in N rather that P if that solves the

problem then it is your safety switch or the connector to it.<<<

I don't believe I have tried that. I think I moved it through the gears and
then back to P and tried it again. I'll see if I can get it to act up
tomorrow and give that a whirl. Thanks for the input, RM ~






Rob Mills 10-28-2006 09:02 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter problem. SOS, Help!
 

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:2ZR0h.866$IC.720@newsfe21.lga...

>>> Fist thought is to try starting in N rather that P if that solves the

problem then it is your safety switch or the connector to it.<<<

I don't believe I have tried that. I think I moved it through the gears and
then back to P and tried it again. I'll see if I can get it to act up
tomorrow and give that a whirl. Thanks for the input, RM ~






Rob Mills 10-28-2006 09:02 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter problem. SOS, Help!
 

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:2ZR0h.866$IC.720@newsfe21.lga...

>>> Fist thought is to try starting in N rather that P if that solves the

problem then it is your safety switch or the connector to it.<<<

I don't believe I have tried that. I think I moved it through the gears and
then back to P and tried it again. I'll see if I can get it to act up
tomorrow and give that a whirl. Thanks for the input, RM ~






Rob Mills 10-28-2006 09:08 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter problem. SOS, Help!
 

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:c0ba$4543eebe$422afc51$32077@FUSE.NET...

>>> Have you cleaned the cables and grounds on BOTH ends and checked for
>>> excess

resistance?<<<

Yes, have cleaned them and they really look to be in good condition at both
ends. Thanks anyway, RM~




Rob Mills 10-28-2006 09:08 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter problem. SOS, Help!
 

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:c0ba$4543eebe$422afc51$32077@FUSE.NET...

>>> Have you cleaned the cables and grounds on BOTH ends and checked for
>>> excess

resistance?<<<

Yes, have cleaned them and they really look to be in good condition at both
ends. Thanks anyway, RM~




Rob Mills 10-28-2006 09:08 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter problem. SOS, Help!
 

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:c0ba$4543eebe$422afc51$32077@FUSE.NET...

>>> Have you cleaned the cables and grounds on BOTH ends and checked for
>>> excess

resistance?<<<

Yes, have cleaned them and they really look to be in good condition at both
ends. Thanks anyway, RM~




Jeffrey DeWitt 10-28-2006 11:50 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter problem. SOS, Help!
 
How old are those cables? Sometimes you can get corrosion between the
cable itself and the connector.

Jeff DeWitt

Rob Mills wrote:
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:c0ba$4543eebe$422afc51$32077@FUSE.NET...
>
>
>>>>Have you cleaned the cables and grounds on BOTH ends and checked for
>>>>excess

>
> resistance?<<<
>
> Yes, have cleaned them and they really look to be in good condition at both
> ends. Thanks anyway, RM~
>
>
>


Jeffrey DeWitt 10-28-2006 11:50 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter problem. SOS, Help!
 
How old are those cables? Sometimes you can get corrosion between the
cable itself and the connector.

Jeff DeWitt

Rob Mills wrote:
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:c0ba$4543eebe$422afc51$32077@FUSE.NET...
>
>
>>>>Have you cleaned the cables and grounds on BOTH ends and checked for
>>>>excess

>
> resistance?<<<
>
> Yes, have cleaned them and they really look to be in good condition at both
> ends. Thanks anyway, RM~
>
>
>


Jeffrey DeWitt 10-28-2006 11:50 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter problem. SOS, Help!
 
How old are those cables? Sometimes you can get corrosion between the
cable itself and the connector.

Jeff DeWitt

Rob Mills wrote:
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:c0ba$4543eebe$422afc51$32077@FUSE.NET...
>
>
>>>>Have you cleaned the cables and grounds on BOTH ends and checked for
>>>>excess

>
> resistance?<<<
>
> Yes, have cleaned them and they really look to be in good condition at both
> ends. Thanks anyway, RM~
>
>
>


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 10-29-2006 02:25 AM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter problem. SOS, Help!
 
Could be the solenoid where the positive battery cable runs to
first.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Rob Mills wrote:
>
> Having a problem with my 96 Cherokee (100k) 4.0 with 4 spd auto and 4
> wheel drive starting.
> Have new battery, starter (they even put in a second one, just in case)
> and ignition switch. It's doing just like it did before I started replacing
> items. It will start up just like it's supposed to for a week or so then it
> will suddenly not start, it's DOA when you hit the starter. Let it sit for
> awhile and it's ready to go. The problem will never occur when the
> mechanics have it so they can really test things.
> It's just starting to turn fall here and the mornings have been rather cool
> and humid and the problem has worsened. It will start right up but if I
> drive it a few blocks and turn it off, it will not start.
> I'm real hesitate to just replace the neutral safety switch due to the high
> cost, over $300 just for the part Anyone one else have similar problem
> or have any ideas. Rob Mills
>
> PS, We did swap the starter relay with the one for the lights, same relay
> and it didn't help.


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 10-29-2006 02:25 AM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter problem. SOS, Help!
 
Could be the solenoid where the positive battery cable runs to
first.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Rob Mills wrote:
>
> Having a problem with my 96 Cherokee (100k) 4.0 with 4 spd auto and 4
> wheel drive starting.
> Have new battery, starter (they even put in a second one, just in case)
> and ignition switch. It's doing just like it did before I started replacing
> items. It will start up just like it's supposed to for a week or so then it
> will suddenly not start, it's DOA when you hit the starter. Let it sit for
> awhile and it's ready to go. The problem will never occur when the
> mechanics have it so they can really test things.
> It's just starting to turn fall here and the mornings have been rather cool
> and humid and the problem has worsened. It will start right up but if I
> drive it a few blocks and turn it off, it will not start.
> I'm real hesitate to just replace the neutral safety switch due to the high
> cost, over $300 just for the part Anyone one else have similar problem
> or have any ideas. Rob Mills
>
> PS, We did swap the starter relay with the one for the lights, same relay
> and it didn't help.


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 10-29-2006 02:25 AM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter problem. SOS, Help!
 
Could be the solenoid where the positive battery cable runs to
first.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Rob Mills wrote:
>
> Having a problem with my 96 Cherokee (100k) 4.0 with 4 spd auto and 4
> wheel drive starting.
> Have new battery, starter (they even put in a second one, just in case)
> and ignition switch. It's doing just like it did before I started replacing
> items. It will start up just like it's supposed to for a week or so then it
> will suddenly not start, it's DOA when you hit the starter. Let it sit for
> awhile and it's ready to go. The problem will never occur when the
> mechanics have it so they can really test things.
> It's just starting to turn fall here and the mornings have been rather cool
> and humid and the problem has worsened. It will start right up but if I
> drive it a few blocks and turn it off, it will not start.
> I'm real hesitate to just replace the neutral safety switch due to the high
> cost, over $300 just for the part Anyone one else have similar problem
> or have any ideas. Rob Mills
>
> PS, We did swap the starter relay with the one for the lights, same relay
> and it didn't help.


Rob Mills 10-29-2006 03:23 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter problem. SOS, Help!
 

"Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3yV0h.1205$nG1.670@tornado.southeast.rr.com.. .

>>> Sometimes you can get corrosion between the cable itself and the
>>> connector.<<<


Are you meaning inside (un-seen area) the cable ends where they are
molded/crimped to the cable?
They are the original cables (110 k miles) but look to be okay and have been
cleaned. RM~




Rob Mills 10-29-2006 03:23 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter problem. SOS, Help!
 

"Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3yV0h.1205$nG1.670@tornado.southeast.rr.com.. .

>>> Sometimes you can get corrosion between the cable itself and the
>>> connector.<<<


Are you meaning inside (un-seen area) the cable ends where they are
molded/crimped to the cable?
They are the original cables (110 k miles) but look to be okay and have been
cleaned. RM~




Rob Mills 10-29-2006 03:23 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter problem. SOS, Help!
 

"Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3yV0h.1205$nG1.670@tornado.southeast.rr.com.. .

>>> Sometimes you can get corrosion between the cable itself and the
>>> connector.<<<


Are you meaning inside (un-seen area) the cable ends where they are
molded/crimped to the cable?
They are the original cables (110 k miles) but look to be okay and have been
cleaned. RM~




Rob Mills 10-29-2006 03:29 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter problem. SOS, Help!
 

"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:45445765.A83A6CFD@cox.net...

>>>Could be the solenoid where the positive battery cable runs to first.<<<


The solenoid is on the starter and they have replaced it twice, I'm assuming
that the solenoid was replaced twice with the starters. I will ask to be
sure. Thanx, RM~




Rob Mills 10-29-2006 03:29 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter problem. SOS, Help!
 

"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:45445765.A83A6CFD@cox.net...

>>>Could be the solenoid where the positive battery cable runs to first.<<<


The solenoid is on the starter and they have replaced it twice, I'm assuming
that the solenoid was replaced twice with the starters. I will ask to be
sure. Thanx, RM~




Rob Mills 10-29-2006 03:29 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter problem. SOS, Help!
 

"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:45445765.A83A6CFD@cox.net...

>>>Could be the solenoid where the positive battery cable runs to first.<<<


The solenoid is on the starter and they have replaced it twice, I'm assuming
that the solenoid was replaced twice with the starters. I will ask to be
sure. Thanx, RM~




Jeffrey DeWitt 10-29-2006 04:39 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter problem. SOS, Help!
 
Yes, that's just what I mean.

When it's acting up you could try bypassing the cables one at a time
with jumper cables, or even force a screwdriver between the connector
and the cable. When it's acting up you could even just try wriggling
the cables around and see if it makes a difference.

Jeff DeWitt

Rob Mills wrote:
> "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:3yV0h.1205$nG1.670@tornado.southeast.rr.com.. .
>
>
>>>>Sometimes you can get corrosion between the cable itself and the
>>>>connector.<<<

>
>
> Are you meaning inside (un-seen area) the cable ends where they are
> molded/crimped to the cable?
> They are the original cables (110 k miles) but look to be okay and have been
> cleaned. RM~
>
>
>


Jeffrey DeWitt 10-29-2006 04:39 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter problem. SOS, Help!
 
Yes, that's just what I mean.

When it's acting up you could try bypassing the cables one at a time
with jumper cables, or even force a screwdriver between the connector
and the cable. When it's acting up you could even just try wriggling
the cables around and see if it makes a difference.

Jeff DeWitt

Rob Mills wrote:
> "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:3yV0h.1205$nG1.670@tornado.southeast.rr.com.. .
>
>
>>>>Sometimes you can get corrosion between the cable itself and the
>>>>connector.<<<

>
>
> Are you meaning inside (un-seen area) the cable ends where they are
> molded/crimped to the cable?
> They are the original cables (110 k miles) but look to be okay and have been
> cleaned. RM~
>
>
>


Jeffrey DeWitt 10-29-2006 04:39 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter problem. SOS, Help!
 
Yes, that's just what I mean.

When it's acting up you could try bypassing the cables one at a time
with jumper cables, or even force a screwdriver between the connector
and the cable. When it's acting up you could even just try wriggling
the cables around and see if it makes a difference.

Jeff DeWitt

Rob Mills wrote:
> "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:3yV0h.1205$nG1.670@tornado.southeast.rr.com.. .
>
>
>>>>Sometimes you can get corrosion between the cable itself and the
>>>>connector.<<<

>
>
> Are you meaning inside (un-seen area) the cable ends where they are
> molded/crimped to the cable?
> They are the original cables (110 k miles) but look to be okay and have been
> cleaned. RM~
>
>
>


billy ray 10-29-2006 04:53 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter problem. SOS, Help!
 
If there is excess resistance there the cable will get hot.

You can also do a voltage drop test with and without a load.


"Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:gc91h.1329$nG1.1006@tornado.southeast.rr.com. ..
> Yes, that's just what I mean.
>
> When it's acting up you could try bypassing the cables one at a time with
> jumper cables, or even force a screwdriver between the connector and the
> cable. When it's acting up you could even just try wriggling the cables
> around and see if it makes a difference.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Rob Mills wrote:
>> "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:3yV0h.1205$nG1.670@tornado.southeast.rr.com.. .
>>
>>
>>>>>Sometimes you can get corrosion between the cable itself and the
>>>>>connector.<<<

>>
>>
>> Are you meaning inside (un-seen area) the cable ends where they are
>> molded/crimped to the cable?
>> They are the original cables (110 k miles) but look to be okay and have
>> been
>> cleaned. RM~
>>
>>



billy ray 10-29-2006 04:53 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter problem. SOS, Help!
 
If there is excess resistance there the cable will get hot.

You can also do a voltage drop test with and without a load.


"Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:gc91h.1329$nG1.1006@tornado.southeast.rr.com. ..
> Yes, that's just what I mean.
>
> When it's acting up you could try bypassing the cables one at a time with
> jumper cables, or even force a screwdriver between the connector and the
> cable. When it's acting up you could even just try wriggling the cables
> around and see if it makes a difference.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Rob Mills wrote:
>> "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:3yV0h.1205$nG1.670@tornado.southeast.rr.com.. .
>>
>>
>>>>>Sometimes you can get corrosion between the cable itself and the
>>>>>connector.<<<

>>
>>
>> Are you meaning inside (un-seen area) the cable ends where they are
>> molded/crimped to the cable?
>> They are the original cables (110 k miles) but look to be okay and have
>> been
>> cleaned. RM~
>>
>>



billy ray 10-29-2006 04:53 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter problem. SOS, Help!
 
If there is excess resistance there the cable will get hot.

You can also do a voltage drop test with and without a load.


"Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:gc91h.1329$nG1.1006@tornado.southeast.rr.com. ..
> Yes, that's just what I mean.
>
> When it's acting up you could try bypassing the cables one at a time with
> jumper cables, or even force a screwdriver between the connector and the
> cable. When it's acting up you could even just try wriggling the cables
> around and see if it makes a difference.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Rob Mills wrote:
>> "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:3yV0h.1205$nG1.670@tornado.southeast.rr.com.. .
>>
>>
>>>>>Sometimes you can get corrosion between the cable itself and the
>>>>>connector.<<<

>>
>>
>> Are you meaning inside (un-seen area) the cable ends where they are
>> molded/crimped to the cable?
>> They are the original cables (110 k miles) but look to be okay and have
>> been
>> cleaned. RM~
>>
>>



Rob Mills 10-30-2006 12:48 AM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter prob/thanks all
 
Thanks to all who responded, it's been helpful. I'm going to start the
morning off with a new set of battery cables because this morning it did
start after I jiggled around on them, regardless they have a 110 k on them.
If that doesn't work, looks like I'm looking at a new safety switch :( . Oh
well, I'm 71 and this vehicle has cost me the least of any car I have ever
owned and it is the first I have ever put over 75 - 80k on.
Cheerios, Rob Mills




Rob Mills 10-30-2006 12:48 AM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter prob/thanks all
 
Thanks to all who responded, it's been helpful. I'm going to start the
morning off with a new set of battery cables because this morning it did
start after I jiggled around on them, regardless they have a 110 k on them.
If that doesn't work, looks like I'm looking at a new safety switch :( . Oh
well, I'm 71 and this vehicle has cost me the least of any car I have ever
owned and it is the first I have ever put over 75 - 80k on.
Cheerios, Rob Mills




Rob Mills 10-30-2006 12:48 AM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter prob/thanks all
 
Thanks to all who responded, it's been helpful. I'm going to start the
morning off with a new set of battery cables because this morning it did
start after I jiggled around on them, regardless they have a 110 k on them.
If that doesn't work, looks like I'm looking at a new safety switch :( . Oh
well, I'm 71 and this vehicle has cost me the least of any car I have ever
owned and it is the first I have ever put over 75 - 80k on.
Cheerios, Rob Mills




philthy 10-30-2006 07:25 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter problem. SOS, Help!
 
does it just crank and not start or not crank at all

Rob Mills wrote:

> Having a problem with my 96 Cherokee (100k) 4.0 with 4 spd auto and 4
> wheel drive starting.
> Have new battery, starter (they even put in a second one, just in case)
> and ignition switch. It's doing just like it did before I started replacing
> items. It will start up just like it's supposed to for a week or so then it
> will suddenly not start, it's DOA when you hit the starter. Let it sit for
> awhile and it's ready to go. The problem will never occur when the
> mechanics have it so they can really test things.
> It's just starting to turn fall here and the mornings have been rather cool
> and humid and the problem has worsened. It will start right up but if I
> drive it a few blocks and turn it off, it will not start.
> I'm real hesitate to just replace the neutral safety switch due to the high
> cost, over $300 just for the part Anyone one else have similar problem
> or have any ideas. Rob Mills
>
> PS, We did swap the starter relay with the one for the lights, same relay
> and it didn't help.



philthy 10-30-2006 07:25 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter problem. SOS, Help!
 
does it just crank and not start or not crank at all

Rob Mills wrote:

> Having a problem with my 96 Cherokee (100k) 4.0 with 4 spd auto and 4
> wheel drive starting.
> Have new battery, starter (they even put in a second one, just in case)
> and ignition switch. It's doing just like it did before I started replacing
> items. It will start up just like it's supposed to for a week or so then it
> will suddenly not start, it's DOA when you hit the starter. Let it sit for
> awhile and it's ready to go. The problem will never occur when the
> mechanics have it so they can really test things.
> It's just starting to turn fall here and the mornings have been rather cool
> and humid and the problem has worsened. It will start right up but if I
> drive it a few blocks and turn it off, it will not start.
> I'm real hesitate to just replace the neutral safety switch due to the high
> cost, over $300 just for the part Anyone one else have similar problem
> or have any ideas. Rob Mills
>
> PS, We did swap the starter relay with the one for the lights, same relay
> and it didn't help.



philthy 10-30-2006 07:25 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter problem. SOS, Help!
 
does it just crank and not start or not crank at all

Rob Mills wrote:

> Having a problem with my 96 Cherokee (100k) 4.0 with 4 spd auto and 4
> wheel drive starting.
> Have new battery, starter (they even put in a second one, just in case)
> and ignition switch. It's doing just like it did before I started replacing
> items. It will start up just like it's supposed to for a week or so then it
> will suddenly not start, it's DOA when you hit the starter. Let it sit for
> awhile and it's ready to go. The problem will never occur when the
> mechanics have it so they can really test things.
> It's just starting to turn fall here and the mornings have been rather cool
> and humid and the problem has worsened. It will start right up but if I
> drive it a few blocks and turn it off, it will not start.
> I'm real hesitate to just replace the neutral safety switch due to the high
> cost, over $300 just for the part Anyone one else have similar problem
> or have any ideas. Rob Mills
>
> PS, We did swap the starter relay with the one for the lights, same relay
> and it didn't help.



philthy 10-30-2006 07:38 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter prob/thanks all
 
i have a new switch i can sell you for half the price of new and it's in the
sealed package from jeep

Rob Mills wrote:

> Thanks to all who responded, it's been helpful. I'm going to start the
> morning off with a new set of battery cables because this morning it did
> start after I jiggled around on them, regardless they have a 110 k on them.
> If that doesn't work, looks like I'm looking at a new safety switch :( . Oh
> well, I'm 71 and this vehicle has cost me the least of any car I have ever
> owned and it is the first I have ever put over 75 - 80k on.
> Cheerios, Rob Mills



philthy 10-30-2006 07:38 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter prob/thanks all
 
i have a new switch i can sell you for half the price of new and it's in the
sealed package from jeep

Rob Mills wrote:

> Thanks to all who responded, it's been helpful. I'm going to start the
> morning off with a new set of battery cables because this morning it did
> start after I jiggled around on them, regardless they have a 110 k on them.
> If that doesn't work, looks like I'm looking at a new safety switch :( . Oh
> well, I'm 71 and this vehicle has cost me the least of any car I have ever
> owned and it is the first I have ever put over 75 - 80k on.
> Cheerios, Rob Mills



philthy 10-30-2006 07:38 PM

Re: 96 Cherokee 4.0 starter prob/thanks all
 
i have a new switch i can sell you for half the price of new and it's in the
sealed package from jeep

Rob Mills wrote:

> Thanks to all who responded, it's been helpful. I'm going to start the
> morning off with a new set of battery cables because this morning it did
> start after I jiggled around on them, regardless they have a 110 k on them.
> If that doesn't work, looks like I'm looking at a new safety switch :( . Oh
> well, I'm 71 and this vehicle has cost me the least of any car I have ever
> owned and it is the first I have ever put over 75 - 80k on.
> Cheerios, Rob Mills




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