95 Wrangler Sahara - broken wiper stalk - need help
10-14-2006, 08:27 PM
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95 Wrangler Sahara - broken wiper stalk - need help
I just bought a 95 Wrangler Sahara. The wiper, turn signal, stalk is
broken - the wiper just spins and spins. It has cruise control. I
bought the new stalk and every thing was working great until I found
the cruise control wire (I think its for the cruise control) has a
different connector. Went back to the dealer and they said it was the
only part listed for any of the YJ. The connector on the jeep has 6
pins, 4 of them have wires. The new part has a flat connector -its not
similar. Does anyone know if this needs to be spliced, or is there
another stalk/connector that matches my car? Also, if it does need to
be spliced, all the colors seem to be the same except on the old part
there is a white wire, on the new a yellow wire. The other three
colors are blue, black, and orange. Do I just match up all the colors
except match yellow to white? Is there an adapter?
Thanks in advance
broken - the wiper just spins and spins. It has cruise control. I
bought the new stalk and every thing was working great until I found
the cruise control wire (I think its for the cruise control) has a
different connector. Went back to the dealer and they said it was the
only part listed for any of the YJ. The connector on the jeep has 6
pins, 4 of them have wires. The new part has a flat connector -its not
similar. Does anyone know if this needs to be spliced, or is there
another stalk/connector that matches my car? Also, if it does need to
be spliced, all the colors seem to be the same except on the old part
there is a white wire, on the new a yellow wire. The other three
colors are blue, black, and orange. Do I just match up all the colors
except match yellow to white? Is there an adapter?
Thanks in advance
10-14-2006, 09:28 PM
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Re: 95 Wrangler Sahara - broken wiper stalk - need help
Take the old part to the dealership parts department. They Should be able
to find the part number or look through the catalogue a year before and
after your model and find the part.
"tobor" <spookycool@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1160872040.964597.221830@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>I just bought a 95 Wrangler Sahara. The wiper, turn signal, stalk is
> broken - the wiper just spins and spins. It has cruise control. I
> bought the new stalk and every thing was working great until I found
> the cruise control wire (I think its for the cruise control) has a
> different connector. Went back to the dealer and they said it was the
> only part listed for any of the YJ. The connector on the jeep has 6
> pins, 4 of them have wires. The new part has a flat connector -its not
> similar. Does anyone know if this needs to be spliced, or is there
> another stalk/connector that matches my car? Also, if it does need to
> be spliced, all the colors seem to be the same except on the old part
> there is a white wire, on the new a yellow wire. The other three
> colors are blue, black, and orange. Do I just match up all the colors
> except match yellow to white? Is there an adapter?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
to find the part number or look through the catalogue a year before and
after your model and find the part.
"tobor" <spookycool@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1160872040.964597.221830@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>I just bought a 95 Wrangler Sahara. The wiper, turn signal, stalk is
> broken - the wiper just spins and spins. It has cruise control. I
> bought the new stalk and every thing was working great until I found
> the cruise control wire (I think its for the cruise control) has a
> different connector. Went back to the dealer and they said it was the
> only part listed for any of the YJ. The connector on the jeep has 6
> pins, 4 of them have wires. The new part has a flat connector -its not
> similar. Does anyone know if this needs to be spliced, or is there
> another stalk/connector that matches my car? Also, if it does need to
> be spliced, all the colors seem to be the same except on the old part
> there is a white wire, on the new a yellow wire. The other three
> colors are blue, black, and orange. Do I just match up all the colors
> except match yellow to white? Is there an adapter?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
10-14-2006, 09:28 PM
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Re: 95 Wrangler Sahara - broken wiper stalk - need help
Take the old part to the dealership parts department. They Should be able
to find the part number or look through the catalogue a year before and
after your model and find the part.
"tobor" <spookycool@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1160872040.964597.221830@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>I just bought a 95 Wrangler Sahara. The wiper, turn signal, stalk is
> broken - the wiper just spins and spins. It has cruise control. I
> bought the new stalk and every thing was working great until I found
> the cruise control wire (I think its for the cruise control) has a
> different connector. Went back to the dealer and they said it was the
> only part listed for any of the YJ. The connector on the jeep has 6
> pins, 4 of them have wires. The new part has a flat connector -its not
> similar. Does anyone know if this needs to be spliced, or is there
> another stalk/connector that matches my car? Also, if it does need to
> be spliced, all the colors seem to be the same except on the old part
> there is a white wire, on the new a yellow wire. The other three
> colors are blue, black, and orange. Do I just match up all the colors
> except match yellow to white? Is there an adapter?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
to find the part number or look through the catalogue a year before and
after your model and find the part.
"tobor" <spookycool@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1160872040.964597.221830@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>I just bought a 95 Wrangler Sahara. The wiper, turn signal, stalk is
> broken - the wiper just spins and spins. It has cruise control. I
> bought the new stalk and every thing was working great until I found
> the cruise control wire (I think its for the cruise control) has a
> different connector. Went back to the dealer and they said it was the
> only part listed for any of the YJ. The connector on the jeep has 6
> pins, 4 of them have wires. The new part has a flat connector -its not
> similar. Does anyone know if this needs to be spliced, or is there
> another stalk/connector that matches my car? Also, if it does need to
> be spliced, all the colors seem to be the same except on the old part
> there is a white wire, on the new a yellow wire. The other three
> colors are blue, black, and orange. Do I just match up all the colors
> except match yellow to white? Is there an adapter?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
10-14-2006, 09:28 PM
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Re: 95 Wrangler Sahara - broken wiper stalk - need help
Take the old part to the dealership parts department. They Should be able
to find the part number or look through the catalogue a year before and
after your model and find the part.
"tobor" <spookycool@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1160872040.964597.221830@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>I just bought a 95 Wrangler Sahara. The wiper, turn signal, stalk is
> broken - the wiper just spins and spins. It has cruise control. I
> bought the new stalk and every thing was working great until I found
> the cruise control wire (I think its for the cruise control) has a
> different connector. Went back to the dealer and they said it was the
> only part listed for any of the YJ. The connector on the jeep has 6
> pins, 4 of them have wires. The new part has a flat connector -its not
> similar. Does anyone know if this needs to be spliced, or is there
> another stalk/connector that matches my car? Also, if it does need to
> be spliced, all the colors seem to be the same except on the old part
> there is a white wire, on the new a yellow wire. The other three
> colors are blue, black, and orange. Do I just match up all the colors
> except match yellow to white? Is there an adapter?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
to find the part number or look through the catalogue a year before and
after your model and find the part.
"tobor" <spookycool@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1160872040.964597.221830@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>I just bought a 95 Wrangler Sahara. The wiper, turn signal, stalk is
> broken - the wiper just spins and spins. It has cruise control. I
> bought the new stalk and every thing was working great until I found
> the cruise control wire (I think its for the cruise control) has a
> different connector. Went back to the dealer and they said it was the
> only part listed for any of the YJ. The connector on the jeep has 6
> pins, 4 of them have wires. The new part has a flat connector -its not
> similar. Does anyone know if this needs to be spliced, or is there
> another stalk/connector that matches my car? Also, if it does need to
> be spliced, all the colors seem to be the same except on the old part
> there is a white wire, on the new a yellow wire. The other three
> colors are blue, black, and orange. Do I just match up all the colors
> except match yellow to white? Is there an adapter?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
10-14-2006, 09:49 PM
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Re: 95 Wrangler Sahara - broken wiper stalk - need help
Sorry I don't know, but I think you are going to have problems if you assume
that yellow equals white, without getting confirmation. I would be looking
for a wiring diagram in your place. The Haynes Manual I have for the 87-95
Wrangler wouldn't be any help at all.
Earle
"tobor" <spookycool@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1160872040.964597.221830@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> I just bought a 95 Wrangler Sahara. The wiper, turn signal, stalk is
> broken - the wiper just spins and spins. It has cruise control. I
> bought the new stalk and every thing was working great until I found
> the cruise control wire (I think its for the cruise control) has a
> different connector. Went back to the dealer and they said it was the
> only part listed for any of the YJ. The connector on the jeep has 6
> pins, 4 of them have wires. The new part has a flat connector -its not
> similar. Does anyone know if this needs to be spliced, or is there
> another stalk/connector that matches my car? Also, if it does need to
> be spliced, all the colors seem to be the same except on the old part
> there is a white wire, on the new a yellow wire. The other three
> colors are blue, black, and orange. Do I just match up all the colors
> except match yellow to white? Is there an adapter?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
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that yellow equals white, without getting confirmation. I would be looking
for a wiring diagram in your place. The Haynes Manual I have for the 87-95
Wrangler wouldn't be any help at all.
Earle
"tobor" <spookycool@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1160872040.964597.221830@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> I just bought a 95 Wrangler Sahara. The wiper, turn signal, stalk is
> broken - the wiper just spins and spins. It has cruise control. I
> bought the new stalk and every thing was working great until I found
> the cruise control wire (I think its for the cruise control) has a
> different connector. Went back to the dealer and they said it was the
> only part listed for any of the YJ. The connector on the jeep has 6
> pins, 4 of them have wires. The new part has a flat connector -its not
> similar. Does anyone know if this needs to be spliced, or is there
> another stalk/connector that matches my car? Also, if it does need to
> be spliced, all the colors seem to be the same except on the old part
> there is a white wire, on the new a yellow wire. The other three
> colors are blue, black, and orange. Do I just match up all the colors
> except match yellow to white? Is there an adapter?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
--
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10-14-2006, 09:49 PM
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Re: 95 Wrangler Sahara - broken wiper stalk - need help
Sorry I don't know, but I think you are going to have problems if you assume
that yellow equals white, without getting confirmation. I would be looking
for a wiring diagram in your place. The Haynes Manual I have for the 87-95
Wrangler wouldn't be any help at all.
Earle
"tobor" <spookycool@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1160872040.964597.221830@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> I just bought a 95 Wrangler Sahara. The wiper, turn signal, stalk is
> broken - the wiper just spins and spins. It has cruise control. I
> bought the new stalk and every thing was working great until I found
> the cruise control wire (I think its for the cruise control) has a
> different connector. Went back to the dealer and they said it was the
> only part listed for any of the YJ. The connector on the jeep has 6
> pins, 4 of them have wires. The new part has a flat connector -its not
> similar. Does anyone know if this needs to be spliced, or is there
> another stalk/connector that matches my car? Also, if it does need to
> be spliced, all the colors seem to be the same except on the old part
> there is a white wire, on the new a yellow wire. The other three
> colors are blue, black, and orange. Do I just match up all the colors
> except match yellow to white? Is there an adapter?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
--
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that yellow equals white, without getting confirmation. I would be looking
for a wiring diagram in your place. The Haynes Manual I have for the 87-95
Wrangler wouldn't be any help at all.
Earle
"tobor" <spookycool@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1160872040.964597.221830@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> I just bought a 95 Wrangler Sahara. The wiper, turn signal, stalk is
> broken - the wiper just spins and spins. It has cruise control. I
> bought the new stalk and every thing was working great until I found
> the cruise control wire (I think its for the cruise control) has a
> different connector. Went back to the dealer and they said it was the
> only part listed for any of the YJ. The connector on the jeep has 6
> pins, 4 of them have wires. The new part has a flat connector -its not
> similar. Does anyone know if this needs to be spliced, or is there
> another stalk/connector that matches my car? Also, if it does need to
> be spliced, all the colors seem to be the same except on the old part
> there is a white wire, on the new a yellow wire. The other three
> colors are blue, black, and orange. Do I just match up all the colors
> except match yellow to white? Is there an adapter?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
--
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10-14-2006, 09:49 PM
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Re: 95 Wrangler Sahara - broken wiper stalk - need help
Sorry I don't know, but I think you are going to have problems if you assume
that yellow equals white, without getting confirmation. I would be looking
for a wiring diagram in your place. The Haynes Manual I have for the 87-95
Wrangler wouldn't be any help at all.
Earle
"tobor" <spookycool@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1160872040.964597.221830@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> I just bought a 95 Wrangler Sahara. The wiper, turn signal, stalk is
> broken - the wiper just spins and spins. It has cruise control. I
> bought the new stalk and every thing was working great until I found
> the cruise control wire (I think its for the cruise control) has a
> different connector. Went back to the dealer and they said it was the
> only part listed for any of the YJ. The connector on the jeep has 6
> pins, 4 of them have wires. The new part has a flat connector -its not
> similar. Does anyone know if this needs to be spliced, or is there
> another stalk/connector that matches my car? Also, if it does need to
> be spliced, all the colors seem to be the same except on the old part
> there is a white wire, on the new a yellow wire. The other three
> colors are blue, black, and orange. Do I just match up all the colors
> except match yellow to white? Is there an adapter?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
--
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that yellow equals white, without getting confirmation. I would be looking
for a wiring diagram in your place. The Haynes Manual I have for the 87-95
Wrangler wouldn't be any help at all.
Earle
"tobor" <spookycool@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1160872040.964597.221830@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> I just bought a 95 Wrangler Sahara. The wiper, turn signal, stalk is
> broken - the wiper just spins and spins. It has cruise control. I
> bought the new stalk and every thing was working great until I found
> the cruise control wire (I think its for the cruise control) has a
> different connector. Went back to the dealer and they said it was the
> only part listed for any of the YJ. The connector on the jeep has 6
> pins, 4 of them have wires. The new part has a flat connector -its not
> similar. Does anyone know if this needs to be spliced, or is there
> another stalk/connector that matches my car? Also, if it does need to
> be spliced, all the colors seem to be the same except on the old part
> there is a white wire, on the new a yellow wire. The other three
> colors are blue, black, and orange. Do I just match up all the colors
> except match yellow to white? Is there an adapter?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
--
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10-14-2006, 10:03 PM
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Re: 95 Wrangler Sahara - broken wiper stalk - need help
Thanks. That is what I thought too, but the parts manager looked it up
of all the YJs and it was the same part number. He kept asking me if I
wanted to reorder the same part. This made no sense to me - although
he was very helpful and seemed genuinely interested in the problem..
It was a jeep dealership, so I was hoping that someone there would have
some experience. But, they said there were no jeep mechanics there
(there were about 15 jeeps on lifts, I guess on the weekends they only
do real minor stuff). Its been a very strange experience all the way
around.
billy ray wrote:
> Take the old part to the dealership parts department. They Should be able
> to find the part number or look through the catalogue a year before and
> after your model and find the part.
>
>
> "tobor" <spookycool@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1160872040.964597.221830@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> >I just bought a 95 Wrangler Sahara. The wiper, turn signal, stalk is
> > broken - the wiper just spins and spins. It has cruise control. I
> > bought the new stalk and every thing was working great until I found
> > the cruise control wire (I think its for the cruise control) has a
> > different connector. Went back to the dealer and they said it was the
> > only part listed for any of the YJ. The connector on the jeep has 6
> > pins, 4 of them have wires. The new part has a flat connector -its not
> > similar. Does anyone know if this needs to be spliced, or is there
> > another stalk/connector that matches my car? Also, if it does need to
> > be spliced, all the colors seem to be the same except on the old part
> > there is a white wire, on the new a yellow wire. The other three
> > colors are blue, black, and orange. Do I just match up all the colors
> > except match yellow to white? Is there an adapter?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
of all the YJs and it was the same part number. He kept asking me if I
wanted to reorder the same part. This made no sense to me - although
he was very helpful and seemed genuinely interested in the problem..
It was a jeep dealership, so I was hoping that someone there would have
some experience. But, they said there were no jeep mechanics there
(there were about 15 jeeps on lifts, I guess on the weekends they only
do real minor stuff). Its been a very strange experience all the way
around.
billy ray wrote:
> Take the old part to the dealership parts department. They Should be able
> to find the part number or look through the catalogue a year before and
> after your model and find the part.
>
>
> "tobor" <spookycool@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1160872040.964597.221830@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> >I just bought a 95 Wrangler Sahara. The wiper, turn signal, stalk is
> > broken - the wiper just spins and spins. It has cruise control. I
> > bought the new stalk and every thing was working great until I found
> > the cruise control wire (I think its for the cruise control) has a
> > different connector. Went back to the dealer and they said it was the
> > only part listed for any of the YJ. The connector on the jeep has 6
> > pins, 4 of them have wires. The new part has a flat connector -its not
> > similar. Does anyone know if this needs to be spliced, or is there
> > another stalk/connector that matches my car? Also, if it does need to
> > be spliced, all the colors seem to be the same except on the old part
> > there is a white wire, on the new a yellow wire. The other three
> > colors are blue, black, and orange. Do I just match up all the colors
> > except match yellow to white? Is there an adapter?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
10-14-2006, 10:03 PM
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Re: 95 Wrangler Sahara - broken wiper stalk - need help
Thanks. That is what I thought too, but the parts manager looked it up
of all the YJs and it was the same part number. He kept asking me if I
wanted to reorder the same part. This made no sense to me - although
he was very helpful and seemed genuinely interested in the problem..
It was a jeep dealership, so I was hoping that someone there would have
some experience. But, they said there were no jeep mechanics there
(there were about 15 jeeps on lifts, I guess on the weekends they only
do real minor stuff). Its been a very strange experience all the way
around.
billy ray wrote:
> Take the old part to the dealership parts department. They Should be able
> to find the part number or look through the catalogue a year before and
> after your model and find the part.
>
>
> "tobor" <spookycool@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1160872040.964597.221830@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> >I just bought a 95 Wrangler Sahara. The wiper, turn signal, stalk is
> > broken - the wiper just spins and spins. It has cruise control. I
> > bought the new stalk and every thing was working great until I found
> > the cruise control wire (I think its for the cruise control) has a
> > different connector. Went back to the dealer and they said it was the
> > only part listed for any of the YJ. The connector on the jeep has 6
> > pins, 4 of them have wires. The new part has a flat connector -its not
> > similar. Does anyone know if this needs to be spliced, or is there
> > another stalk/connector that matches my car? Also, if it does need to
> > be spliced, all the colors seem to be the same except on the old part
> > there is a white wire, on the new a yellow wire. The other three
> > colors are blue, black, and orange. Do I just match up all the colors
> > except match yellow to white? Is there an adapter?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
of all the YJs and it was the same part number. He kept asking me if I
wanted to reorder the same part. This made no sense to me - although
he was very helpful and seemed genuinely interested in the problem..
It was a jeep dealership, so I was hoping that someone there would have
some experience. But, they said there were no jeep mechanics there
(there were about 15 jeeps on lifts, I guess on the weekends they only
do real minor stuff). Its been a very strange experience all the way
around.
billy ray wrote:
> Take the old part to the dealership parts department. They Should be able
> to find the part number or look through the catalogue a year before and
> after your model and find the part.
>
>
> "tobor" <spookycool@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1160872040.964597.221830@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> >I just bought a 95 Wrangler Sahara. The wiper, turn signal, stalk is
> > broken - the wiper just spins and spins. It has cruise control. I
> > bought the new stalk and every thing was working great until I found
> > the cruise control wire (I think its for the cruise control) has a
> > different connector. Went back to the dealer and they said it was the
> > only part listed for any of the YJ. The connector on the jeep has 6
> > pins, 4 of them have wires. The new part has a flat connector -its not
> > similar. Does anyone know if this needs to be spliced, or is there
> > another stalk/connector that matches my car? Also, if it does need to
> > be spliced, all the colors seem to be the same except on the old part
> > there is a white wire, on the new a yellow wire. The other three
> > colors are blue, black, and orange. Do I just match up all the colors
> > except match yellow to white? Is there an adapter?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
10-14-2006, 10:03 PM
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Re: 95 Wrangler Sahara - broken wiper stalk - need help
Thanks. That is what I thought too, but the parts manager looked it up
of all the YJs and it was the same part number. He kept asking me if I
wanted to reorder the same part. This made no sense to me - although
he was very helpful and seemed genuinely interested in the problem..
It was a jeep dealership, so I was hoping that someone there would have
some experience. But, they said there were no jeep mechanics there
(there were about 15 jeeps on lifts, I guess on the weekends they only
do real minor stuff). Its been a very strange experience all the way
around.
billy ray wrote:
> Take the old part to the dealership parts department. They Should be able
> to find the part number or look through the catalogue a year before and
> after your model and find the part.
>
>
> "tobor" <spookycool@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1160872040.964597.221830@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> >I just bought a 95 Wrangler Sahara. The wiper, turn signal, stalk is
> > broken - the wiper just spins and spins. It has cruise control. I
> > bought the new stalk and every thing was working great until I found
> > the cruise control wire (I think its for the cruise control) has a
> > different connector. Went back to the dealer and they said it was the
> > only part listed for any of the YJ. The connector on the jeep has 6
> > pins, 4 of them have wires. The new part has a flat connector -its not
> > similar. Does anyone know if this needs to be spliced, or is there
> > another stalk/connector that matches my car? Also, if it does need to
> > be spliced, all the colors seem to be the same except on the old part
> > there is a white wire, on the new a yellow wire. The other three
> > colors are blue, black, and orange. Do I just match up all the colors
> > except match yellow to white? Is there an adapter?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
of all the YJs and it was the same part number. He kept asking me if I
wanted to reorder the same part. This made no sense to me - although
he was very helpful and seemed genuinely interested in the problem..
It was a jeep dealership, so I was hoping that someone there would have
some experience. But, they said there were no jeep mechanics there
(there were about 15 jeeps on lifts, I guess on the weekends they only
do real minor stuff). Its been a very strange experience all the way
around.
billy ray wrote:
> Take the old part to the dealership parts department. They Should be able
> to find the part number or look through the catalogue a year before and
> after your model and find the part.
>
>
> "tobor" <spookycool@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1160872040.964597.221830@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> >I just bought a 95 Wrangler Sahara. The wiper, turn signal, stalk is
> > broken - the wiper just spins and spins. It has cruise control. I
> > bought the new stalk and every thing was working great until I found
> > the cruise control wire (I think its for the cruise control) has a
> > different connector. Went back to the dealer and they said it was the
> > only part listed for any of the YJ. The connector on the jeep has 6
> > pins, 4 of them have wires. The new part has a flat connector -its not
> > similar. Does anyone know if this needs to be spliced, or is there
> > another stalk/connector that matches my car? Also, if it does need to
> > be spliced, all the colors seem to be the same except on the old part
> > there is a white wire, on the new a yellow wire. The other three
> > colors are blue, black, and orange. Do I just match up all the colors
> > except match yellow to white? Is there an adapter?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >