paul

It started awhile back with slow acceleration from a dead stop then at
freeway speeds if I tried to pass the RPM's would shoot up to 3500 and there
would be no drive train response.

Took it to a transmission shop they did a 'rebuild' of the tranny - I got
it back still had the same problem but now it was more noticeable that it
was not shifting properly from 1st to 2nd - rpm's increased - no shift
unless I let off on the throttle. Took it back again, and was told they
tried adjusting the shift points both earlier and later with no favorable
results and that they feel that there is a spark/ vacuum issue.

Now the symptoms are the same except at freeway speed it will no longer
kick up the rpm's - just plods along at 60 mph.

If I shift to neutral I can get an rpm response on the freeway but not while
in gear.

?????



"Earle Horton" <gracioso@latino.usa> wrote in message
news:Fo2dnVnd3Ok50rvbnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> What is the problem? Describe what is/what is not happening with the
> vehicle. I take it your transmission isn't shifting right, or has some
> other transmission-related problem. If there were a spark problem, you
> would notice the engine running rough. It would be odd for spark, or lack
> thereof, to only affect the transmission.
>
> Earle
>
> "paul" <SPAMpdrapeau@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:46264e74$0$21074$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> 93 YJ 4.0 automatic
>>
>> Are there any recommended procedures for checking for a spark problem?
>>
>> Vacuum leaks?
>>
>> tranny shop tells me that the transmission is good and that I either have
> a
>> spark or vacuum problem --- I feel like I'm getting the run around but
> want
>> to explore all possibilities before calling the guy a thief.
>>
>> tia
>> paul
>>
>>
>
>

paul

It started awhile back with slow acceleration from a dead stop then at
freeway speeds if I tried to pass the RPM's would shoot up to 3500 and there
would be no drive train response.

Took it to a transmission shop they did a 'rebuild' of the tranny - I got
it back still had the same problem but now it was more noticeable that it
was not shifting properly from 1st to 2nd - rpm's increased - no shift
unless I let off on the throttle. Took it back again, and was told they
tried adjusting the shift points both earlier and later with no favorable
results and that they feel that there is a spark/ vacuum issue.

Now the symptoms are the same except at freeway speed it will no longer
kick up the rpm's - just plods along at 60 mph.

If I shift to neutral I can get an rpm response on the freeway but not while
in gear.

?????



"Earle Horton" <gracioso@latino.usa> wrote in message
news:Fo2dnVnd3Ok50rvbnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> What is the problem? Describe what is/what is not happening with the
> vehicle. I take it your transmission isn't shifting right, or has some
> other transmission-related problem. If there were a spark problem, you
> would notice the engine running rough. It would be odd for spark, or lack
> thereof, to only affect the transmission.
>
> Earle
>
> "paul" <SPAMpdrapeau@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:46264e74$0$21074$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> 93 YJ 4.0 automatic
>>
>> Are there any recommended procedures for checking for a spark problem?
>>
>> Vacuum leaks?
>>
>> tranny shop tells me that the transmission is good and that I either have
> a
>> spark or vacuum problem --- I feel like I'm getting the run around but
> want
>> to explore all possibilities before calling the guy a thief.
>>
>> tia
>> paul
>>
>>
>
>

paul

It started awhile back with slow acceleration from a dead stop then at
freeway speeds if I tried to pass the RPM's would shoot up to 3500 and there
would be no drive train response.

Took it to a transmission shop they did a 'rebuild' of the tranny - I got
it back still had the same problem but now it was more noticeable that it
was not shifting properly from 1st to 2nd - rpm's increased - no shift
unless I let off on the throttle. Took it back again, and was told they
tried adjusting the shift points both earlier and later with no favorable
results and that they feel that there is a spark/ vacuum issue.

Now the symptoms are the same except at freeway speed it will no longer
kick up the rpm's - just plods along at 60 mph.

If I shift to neutral I can get an rpm response on the freeway but not while
in gear.

?????



"Earle Horton" <gracioso@latino.usa> wrote in message
news:Fo2dnVnd3Ok50rvbnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> What is the problem? Describe what is/what is not happening with the
> vehicle. I take it your transmission isn't shifting right, or has some
> other transmission-related problem. If there were a spark problem, you
> would notice the engine running rough. It would be odd for spark, or lack
> thereof, to only affect the transmission.
>
> Earle
>
> "paul" <SPAMpdrapeau@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:46264e74$0$21074$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> 93 YJ 4.0 automatic
>>
>> Are there any recommended procedures for checking for a spark problem?
>>
>> Vacuum leaks?
>>
>> tranny shop tells me that the transmission is good and that I either have
> a
>> spark or vacuum problem --- I feel like I'm getting the run around but
> want
>> to explore all possibilities before calling the guy a thief.
>>
>> tia
>> paul
>>
>>
>
>

paul

I'll give that a try this weekend,,, thanks


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:462656f9$0$29984$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> The throttle position sensor is notorious forgetting a bad connection. It
> controls the shift points on the tranny.
>
> I recommend an electronic spray contact cleaner on it, well all of the
> computer sensor plugs for that matter like like CPS. I then like to rub
> some dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirt.
>
> WD40 will even work in a pinch, it just doesn't last long.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> paul wrote:
>> 93 YJ 4.0 automatic
>>
>> Are there any recommended procedures for checking for a spark problem?
>>
>> Vacuum leaks?
>>
>> tranny shop tells me that the transmission is good and that I either have
>> a spark or vacuum problem --- I feel like I'm getting the run around but
>> want to explore all possibilities before calling the guy a thief.
>>
>> tia
>> paul

paul

I'll give that a try this weekend,,, thanks


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:462656f9$0$29984$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> The throttle position sensor is notorious forgetting a bad connection. It
> controls the shift points on the tranny.
>
> I recommend an electronic spray contact cleaner on it, well all of the
> computer sensor plugs for that matter like like CPS. I then like to rub
> some dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirt.
>
> WD40 will even work in a pinch, it just doesn't last long.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> paul wrote:
>> 93 YJ 4.0 automatic
>>
>> Are there any recommended procedures for checking for a spark problem?
>>
>> Vacuum leaks?
>>
>> tranny shop tells me that the transmission is good and that I either have
>> a spark or vacuum problem --- I feel like I'm getting the run around but
>> want to explore all possibilities before calling the guy a thief.
>>
>> tia
>> paul

paul

I'll give that a try this weekend,,, thanks


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:462656f9$0$29984$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> The throttle position sensor is notorious forgetting a bad connection. It
> controls the shift points on the tranny.
>
> I recommend an electronic spray contact cleaner on it, well all of the
> computer sensor plugs for that matter like like CPS. I then like to rub
> some dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirt.
>
> WD40 will even work in a pinch, it just doesn't last long.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> paul wrote:
>> 93 YJ 4.0 automatic
>>
>> Are there any recommended procedures for checking for a spark problem?
>>
>> Vacuum leaks?
>>
>> tranny shop tells me that the transmission is good and that I either have
>> a spark or vacuum problem --- I feel like I'm getting the run around but
>> want to explore all possibilities before calling the guy a thief.
>>
>> tia
>> paul

paul

I'll give that a try this weekend,,, thanks


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:462656f9$0$29984$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> The throttle position sensor is notorious forgetting a bad connection. It
> controls the shift points on the tranny.
>
> I recommend an electronic spray contact cleaner on it, well all of the
> computer sensor plugs for that matter like like CPS. I then like to rub
> some dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirt.
>
> WD40 will even work in a pinch, it just doesn't last long.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> paul wrote:
>> 93 YJ 4.0 automatic
>>
>> Are there any recommended procedures for checking for a spark problem?
>>
>> Vacuum leaks?
>>
>> tranny shop tells me that the transmission is good and that I either have
>> a spark or vacuum problem --- I feel like I'm getting the run around but
>> want to explore all possibilities before calling the guy a thief.
>>
>> tia
>> paul

DougW

paul wrote:
> It started awhile back with slow acceleration from a dead stop then at
> freeway speeds if I tried to pass the RPM's would shoot up to 3500
> and there would be no drive train response.
>
> Took it to a transmission shop they did a 'rebuild' of the tranny - I
> got it back still had the same problem but now it was more noticeable
> that it was not shifting properly from 1st to 2nd - rpm's increased
> - no shift unless I let off on the throttle. Took it back again, and
> was told they tried adjusting the shift points both earlier and later
> with no favorable results and that they feel that there is a spark/
> vacuum issue.
> Now the symptoms are the same except at freeway speed it will no
> longer kick up the rpm's - just plods along at 60 mph.
>
> If I shift to neutral I can get an rpm response on the freeway but
> not while in gear.

Is the kickdown cable properly adjusted?

It's on the side of the trottle body and runs down to the transmission.
The adjustment is a pushbutton thingy on the holddown. You move the
cable end further away (more tension) to tighten up the shift points.

You can test spark with a gap tester. How old is your ignition system?
Plugs could be bad, the wires could be arcing or worn out, bad cap or rotor
will make for weak spark, and the coil is well known for going bad. Best
replacement for the coil is a NAPA part ECHIC409 (same as the OEM part)
but this has a short resistor lead and a better matched coil.


--
DougW

DougW

paul wrote:
> It started awhile back with slow acceleration from a dead stop then at
> freeway speeds if I tried to pass the RPM's would shoot up to 3500
> and there would be no drive train response.
>
> Took it to a transmission shop they did a 'rebuild' of the tranny - I
> got it back still had the same problem but now it was more noticeable
> that it was not shifting properly from 1st to 2nd - rpm's increased
> - no shift unless I let off on the throttle. Took it back again, and
> was told they tried adjusting the shift points both earlier and later
> with no favorable results and that they feel that there is a spark/
> vacuum issue.
> Now the symptoms are the same except at freeway speed it will no
> longer kick up the rpm's - just plods along at 60 mph.
>
> If I shift to neutral I can get an rpm response on the freeway but
> not while in gear.

Is the kickdown cable properly adjusted?

It's on the side of the trottle body and runs down to the transmission.
The adjustment is a pushbutton thingy on the holddown. You move the
cable end further away (more tension) to tighten up the shift points.

You can test spark with a gap tester. How old is your ignition system?
Plugs could be bad, the wires could be arcing or worn out, bad cap or rotor
will make for weak spark, and the coil is well known for going bad. Best
replacement for the coil is a NAPA part ECHIC409 (same as the OEM part)
but this has a short resistor lead and a better matched coil.


--
DougW

DougW

paul wrote:
> It started awhile back with slow acceleration from a dead stop then at
> freeway speeds if I tried to pass the RPM's would shoot up to 3500
> and there would be no drive train response.
>
> Took it to a transmission shop they did a 'rebuild' of the tranny - I
> got it back still had the same problem but now it was more noticeable
> that it was not shifting properly from 1st to 2nd - rpm's increased
> - no shift unless I let off on the throttle. Took it back again, and
> was told they tried adjusting the shift points both earlier and later
> with no favorable results and that they feel that there is a spark/
> vacuum issue.
> Now the symptoms are the same except at freeway speed it will no
> longer kick up the rpm's - just plods along at 60 mph.
>
> If I shift to neutral I can get an rpm response on the freeway but
> not while in gear.

Is the kickdown cable properly adjusted?

It's on the side of the trottle body and runs down to the transmission.
The adjustment is a pushbutton thingy on the holddown. You move the
cable end further away (more tension) to tighten up the shift points.

You can test spark with a gap tester. How old is your ignition system?
Plugs could be bad, the wires could be arcing or worn out, bad cap or rotor
will make for weak spark, and the coil is well known for going bad. Best
replacement for the coil is a NAPA part ECHIC409 (same as the OEM part)
but this has a short resistor lead and a better matched coil.


--
DougW