Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
 

Not all attorneys are the Shyster Spawn of Satan, there must be a few that
feel remorse at amassing wealth at the misfortune of others.


"Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a case
> like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is to
>

Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
 

"Nobody" is sophisticated enough to ask for "current manufacturer
recommended service" except maybe you. They assume that "industry standard"
is "good enough" and they are probably right. I don't know about this
particular transmission, but if it left the factory with Dexron III, then
Dexron III is probably acceptable for it. How are ATF+4 prices recently? I
haven't had to buy any since I traded my Ram Van on a Suburban.

Now the manual transmission in my Honda Civic is another matter. Honda
recommended engine oil in the owner's manual for that application, but the
actual fluid specs have changed, and the oil that you find on the shelves
now is not the same oil that was on the shelves eight years ago. In that
case I have to get a special manual transmission fluid, which is reasonable.

Earle

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:7d3f5$45ca0323$422afc51$20775@FUSE.NET...
> I might disagree depending on how he requested the service. If he asked
for
> the service recommended by DC for his '93 then that price includes the
ATF+4
> which DC recommends (a competent mechanic would know the fluid specs have
> changed). If he said I want the $19.95 fluid change special utilizing
> recycled waste Red Chinese Tractor fluid then that is another matter.
>
> Paul, If you need the diagrams that go with the written directions just
send
> me your e-mail address where you can receive attachments.... (and remind
me
> it is for a '93 32rh band adjustment)
>
>
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
> news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a case
> > like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is
to
> > offer to let the shop make things right. You go back there and tell
them
> > that the transmission has bands, that you want adjusted. If you don't
> > give
> > them a chance to make things right, then you have less leverage for
asking
> > for a refund. Sure they have no business being in business if they are
> > idiots, but anyone can make a mistake.
> >
> > As far as the fluid type is concerned, if DC is now recommending a
fluid,
> > that is different and much more expensive than the factory fluid, then
the
> > shop owner has a right to question whether this is reasonable, and to
> > impose
> > an added charge when the customer wants it. Lots of the chains have
small
> > print that says which fluid they are willing to include in their
standard
> > service charge.
> >
> > If you let bands slip for too long then they get glazed or worn to the
> > point
> > where replacement is indeed necessary.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:2e26c$45c9e7f8$422afc51$16884@FUSE.NET...
> >> Paul,
> >>
> >> You need to find a qualified "shop" to work on your Jeep that has some
> >> interest other than just draining your wallet.
> >>
> >> The band adjustment procedure for a '93 32rh transmission is listed
> >> below.
> >>
> >> FWIW: DC recommends that ATF+4 be used as the transmission fluid in
place
> > of
> >> the factory Dexron fluid. DC also advises that most transmission
> >> problems
> >> are related to improper or contaminated fluid
> >>
> >> If your "shop" used anything except ATF+4 you might ask them why when
you
> > go
> >> to collect the refund they owe you...... after all they did not
complete
> > the
> >> service you paid for (and lied to you to boot!) and you now need to
have
> >> a
> >> qualified shop repair their "repair".
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ADJUSTMENTS
> >>
> >> NOTE: Bands on the AW-4 transmission are not adjustable. If slippage
> > occurs,
> >> bands must be replaced.
> >>
> >> KICKDOWN (FRONT) BAND
> >>
> >> 32RH
> >>
> >> 1) Locate kickdown band adjusting screw on left side of case
> >>
> >> (near throttle lever shaft). See Fig. 1. Loosen adjusting screw lock
> >>
> >> nut and back off 4-5 turns. Ensure adjusting screw turns freely in
> >>
> >> case.
> >>
> >> 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). If
> >>
> >> Adapter Extension (J-24063) is used, tighten adjusting screw to 50
> >>
> >> INCH lbs. (5 N.m). Back off adjusting screw 2 1/2 turns. Hold
> >>
> >> adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 30 ft. lbs. (41 N.m).
> >>
> >> LOW-REVERSE (REAR) BAND (TYPICAL)
> >>
> >> 32RH
> >>
> >> 1) Raise and support vehicle. Drain transmission fluid and remove oil
> >> pan.
> >> Locate low-reverse band adjusting screw on rear servo lever. See Fig.
2.
> >> Loosen adjusting screw lock nut. Back off lock nut 5-6 turns.
> >>
> >> 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). Back off adjusting
> > screw
> >> 4 turns. Hold adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 25 ft. lbs. (34
> > N.m).
> >> Install oil pan and fill transmission with fluid.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Good Luck and welcome,
> >>
> >> -br
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "paul" <SPAMpdrapeau@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> news:45c91c2e$0$24510$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> >> > 93 YJ auto tranny.
> >> >
> >> > Changed fluid and filter. Shop said that there were no bands on the
> > model
> >> > that I have (32RH ).
> >> >
> >> > Transmission is still slipping when accelerated hard.
> >> >
> >> > Do I:
> >> >
> >> > 1) have current transmission re-built?
> >> >
> >> > 2) have a already re-built unit tranny put in?
> >> >
> >> > 3) upgrade?
> >> >
> >> > I will be getting a bonus check next week (not sure how much) and
might
> >> > have a few extra greenbacks to throw around.....
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > tia
> >> >
> >> > paul
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > p.s. type face has changed whilst composing,,, not sure what this
will
> >> > look like posted,,, apologies if it is as small as it looks now :-\
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
 

"Nobody" is sophisticated enough to ask for "current manufacturer
recommended service" except maybe you. They assume that "industry standard"
is "good enough" and they are probably right. I don't know about this
particular transmission, but if it left the factory with Dexron III, then
Dexron III is probably acceptable for it. How are ATF+4 prices recently? I
haven't had to buy any since I traded my Ram Van on a Suburban.

Now the manual transmission in my Honda Civic is another matter. Honda
recommended engine oil in the owner's manual for that application, but the
actual fluid specs have changed, and the oil that you find on the shelves
now is not the same oil that was on the shelves eight years ago. In that
case I have to get a special manual transmission fluid, which is reasonable.

Earle

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:7d3f5$45ca0323$422afc51$20775@FUSE.NET...
> I might disagree depending on how he requested the service. If he asked
for
> the service recommended by DC for his '93 then that price includes the
ATF+4
> which DC recommends (a competent mechanic would know the fluid specs have
> changed). If he said I want the $19.95 fluid change special utilizing
> recycled waste Red Chinese Tractor fluid then that is another matter.
>
> Paul, If you need the diagrams that go with the written directions just
send
> me your e-mail address where you can receive attachments.... (and remind
me
> it is for a '93 32rh band adjustment)
>
>
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
> news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a case
> > like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is
to
> > offer to let the shop make things right. You go back there and tell
them
> > that the transmission has bands, that you want adjusted. If you don't
> > give
> > them a chance to make things right, then you have less leverage for
asking
> > for a refund. Sure they have no business being in business if they are
> > idiots, but anyone can make a mistake.
> >
> > As far as the fluid type is concerned, if DC is now recommending a
fluid,
> > that is different and much more expensive than the factory fluid, then
the
> > shop owner has a right to question whether this is reasonable, and to
> > impose
> > an added charge when the customer wants it. Lots of the chains have
small
> > print that says which fluid they are willing to include in their
standard
> > service charge.
> >
> > If you let bands slip for too long then they get glazed or worn to the
> > point
> > where replacement is indeed necessary.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:2e26c$45c9e7f8$422afc51$16884@FUSE.NET...
> >> Paul,
> >>
> >> You need to find a qualified "shop" to work on your Jeep that has some
> >> interest other than just draining your wallet.
> >>
> >> The band adjustment procedure for a '93 32rh transmission is listed
> >> below.
> >>
> >> FWIW: DC recommends that ATF+4 be used as the transmission fluid in
place
> > of
> >> the factory Dexron fluid. DC also advises that most transmission
> >> problems
> >> are related to improper or contaminated fluid
> >>
> >> If your "shop" used anything except ATF+4 you might ask them why when
you
> > go
> >> to collect the refund they owe you...... after all they did not
complete
> > the
> >> service you paid for (and lied to you to boot!) and you now need to
have
> >> a
> >> qualified shop repair their "repair".
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ADJUSTMENTS
> >>
> >> NOTE: Bands on the AW-4 transmission are not adjustable. If slippage
> > occurs,
> >> bands must be replaced.
> >>
> >> KICKDOWN (FRONT) BAND
> >>
> >> 32RH
> >>
> >> 1) Locate kickdown band adjusting screw on left side of case
> >>
> >> (near throttle lever shaft). See Fig. 1. Loosen adjusting screw lock
> >>
> >> nut and back off 4-5 turns. Ensure adjusting screw turns freely in
> >>
> >> case.
> >>
> >> 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). If
> >>
> >> Adapter Extension (J-24063) is used, tighten adjusting screw to 50
> >>
> >> INCH lbs. (5 N.m). Back off adjusting screw 2 1/2 turns. Hold
> >>
> >> adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 30 ft. lbs. (41 N.m).
> >>
> >> LOW-REVERSE (REAR) BAND (TYPICAL)
> >>
> >> 32RH
> >>
> >> 1) Raise and support vehicle. Drain transmission fluid and remove oil
> >> pan.
> >> Locate low-reverse band adjusting screw on rear servo lever. See Fig.
2.
> >> Loosen adjusting screw lock nut. Back off lock nut 5-6 turns.
> >>
> >> 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). Back off adjusting
> > screw
> >> 4 turns. Hold adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 25 ft. lbs. (34
> > N.m).
> >> Install oil pan and fill transmission with fluid.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Good Luck and welcome,
> >>
> >> -br
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "paul" <SPAMpdrapeau@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> news:45c91c2e$0$24510$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> >> > 93 YJ auto tranny.
> >> >
> >> > Changed fluid and filter. Shop said that there were no bands on the
> > model
> >> > that I have (32RH ).
> >> >
> >> > Transmission is still slipping when accelerated hard.
> >> >
> >> > Do I:
> >> >
> >> > 1) have current transmission re-built?
> >> >
> >> > 2) have a already re-built unit tranny put in?
> >> >
> >> > 3) upgrade?
> >> >
> >> > I will be getting a bonus check next week (not sure how much) and
might
> >> > have a few extra greenbacks to throw around.....
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > tia
> >> >
> >> > paul
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > p.s. type face has changed whilst composing,,, not sure what this
will
> >> > look like posted,,, apologies if it is as small as it looks now :-\
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
 

"Nobody" is sophisticated enough to ask for "current manufacturer
recommended service" except maybe you. They assume that "industry standard"
is "good enough" and they are probably right. I don't know about this
particular transmission, but if it left the factory with Dexron III, then
Dexron III is probably acceptable for it. How are ATF+4 prices recently? I
haven't had to buy any since I traded my Ram Van on a Suburban.

Now the manual transmission in my Honda Civic is another matter. Honda
recommended engine oil in the owner's manual for that application, but the
actual fluid specs have changed, and the oil that you find on the shelves
now is not the same oil that was on the shelves eight years ago. In that
case I have to get a special manual transmission fluid, which is reasonable.

Earle

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:7d3f5$45ca0323$422afc51$20775@FUSE.NET...
> I might disagree depending on how he requested the service. If he asked
for
> the service recommended by DC for his '93 then that price includes the
ATF+4
> which DC recommends (a competent mechanic would know the fluid specs have
> changed). If he said I want the $19.95 fluid change special utilizing
> recycled waste Red Chinese Tractor fluid then that is another matter.
>
> Paul, If you need the diagrams that go with the written directions just
send
> me your e-mail address where you can receive attachments.... (and remind
me
> it is for a '93 32rh band adjustment)
>
>
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
> news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a case
> > like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is
to
> > offer to let the shop make things right. You go back there and tell
them
> > that the transmission has bands, that you want adjusted. If you don't
> > give
> > them a chance to make things right, then you have less leverage for
asking
> > for a refund. Sure they have no business being in business if they are
> > idiots, but anyone can make a mistake.
> >
> > As far as the fluid type is concerned, if DC is now recommending a
fluid,
> > that is different and much more expensive than the factory fluid, then
the
> > shop owner has a right to question whether this is reasonable, and to
> > impose
> > an added charge when the customer wants it. Lots of the chains have
small
> > print that says which fluid they are willing to include in their
standard
> > service charge.
> >
> > If you let bands slip for too long then they get glazed or worn to the
> > point
> > where replacement is indeed necessary.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:2e26c$45c9e7f8$422afc51$16884@FUSE.NET...
> >> Paul,
> >>
> >> You need to find a qualified "shop" to work on your Jeep that has some
> >> interest other than just draining your wallet.
> >>
> >> The band adjustment procedure for a '93 32rh transmission is listed
> >> below.
> >>
> >> FWIW: DC recommends that ATF+4 be used as the transmission fluid in
place
> > of
> >> the factory Dexron fluid. DC also advises that most transmission
> >> problems
> >> are related to improper or contaminated fluid
> >>
> >> If your "shop" used anything except ATF+4 you might ask them why when
you
> > go
> >> to collect the refund they owe you...... after all they did not
complete
> > the
> >> service you paid for (and lied to you to boot!) and you now need to
have
> >> a
> >> qualified shop repair their "repair".
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ADJUSTMENTS
> >>
> >> NOTE: Bands on the AW-4 transmission are not adjustable. If slippage
> > occurs,
> >> bands must be replaced.
> >>
> >> KICKDOWN (FRONT) BAND
> >>
> >> 32RH
> >>
> >> 1) Locate kickdown band adjusting screw on left side of case
> >>
> >> (near throttle lever shaft). See Fig. 1. Loosen adjusting screw lock
> >>
> >> nut and back off 4-5 turns. Ensure adjusting screw turns freely in
> >>
> >> case.
> >>
> >> 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). If
> >>
> >> Adapter Extension (J-24063) is used, tighten adjusting screw to 50
> >>
> >> INCH lbs. (5 N.m). Back off adjusting screw 2 1/2 turns. Hold
> >>
> >> adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 30 ft. lbs. (41 N.m).
> >>
> >> LOW-REVERSE (REAR) BAND (TYPICAL)
> >>
> >> 32RH
> >>
> >> 1) Raise and support vehicle. Drain transmission fluid and remove oil
> >> pan.
> >> Locate low-reverse band adjusting screw on rear servo lever. See Fig.
2.
> >> Loosen adjusting screw lock nut. Back off lock nut 5-6 turns.
> >>
> >> 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). Back off adjusting
> > screw
> >> 4 turns. Hold adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 25 ft. lbs. (34
> > N.m).
> >> Install oil pan and fill transmission with fluid.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Good Luck and welcome,
> >>
> >> -br
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "paul" <SPAMpdrapeau@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> news:45c91c2e$0$24510$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> >> > 93 YJ auto tranny.
> >> >
> >> > Changed fluid and filter. Shop said that there were no bands on the
> > model
> >> > that I have (32RH ).
> >> >
> >> > Transmission is still slipping when accelerated hard.
> >> >
> >> > Do I:
> >> >
> >> > 1) have current transmission re-built?
> >> >
> >> > 2) have a already re-built unit tranny put in?
> >> >
> >> > 3) upgrade?
> >> >
> >> > I will be getting a bonus check next week (not sure how much) and
might
> >> > have a few extra greenbacks to throw around.....
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > tia
> >> >
> >> > paul
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > p.s. type face has changed whilst composing,,, not sure what this
will
> >> > look like posted,,, apologies if it is as small as it looks now :-\
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
 

"Nobody" is sophisticated enough to ask for "current manufacturer
recommended service" except maybe you. They assume that "industry standard"
is "good enough" and they are probably right. I don't know about this
particular transmission, but if it left the factory with Dexron III, then
Dexron III is probably acceptable for it. How are ATF+4 prices recently? I
haven't had to buy any since I traded my Ram Van on a Suburban.

Now the manual transmission in my Honda Civic is another matter. Honda
recommended engine oil in the owner's manual for that application, but the
actual fluid specs have changed, and the oil that you find on the shelves
now is not the same oil that was on the shelves eight years ago. In that
case I have to get a special manual transmission fluid, which is reasonable.

Earle

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:7d3f5$45ca0323$422afc51$20775@FUSE.NET...
> I might disagree depending on how he requested the service. If he asked
for
> the service recommended by DC for his '93 then that price includes the
ATF+4
> which DC recommends (a competent mechanic would know the fluid specs have
> changed). If he said I want the $19.95 fluid change special utilizing
> recycled waste Red Chinese Tractor fluid then that is another matter.
>
> Paul, If you need the diagrams that go with the written directions just
send
> me your e-mail address where you can receive attachments.... (and remind
me
> it is for a '93 32rh band adjustment)
>
>
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
> news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a case
> > like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is
to
> > offer to let the shop make things right. You go back there and tell
them
> > that the transmission has bands, that you want adjusted. If you don't
> > give
> > them a chance to make things right, then you have less leverage for
asking
> > for a refund. Sure they have no business being in business if they are
> > idiots, but anyone can make a mistake.
> >
> > As far as the fluid type is concerned, if DC is now recommending a
fluid,
> > that is different and much more expensive than the factory fluid, then
the
> > shop owner has a right to question whether this is reasonable, and to
> > impose
> > an added charge when the customer wants it. Lots of the chains have
small
> > print that says which fluid they are willing to include in their
standard
> > service charge.
> >
> > If you let bands slip for too long then they get glazed or worn to the
> > point
> > where replacement is indeed necessary.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:2e26c$45c9e7f8$422afc51$16884@FUSE.NET...
> >> Paul,
> >>
> >> You need to find a qualified "shop" to work on your Jeep that has some
> >> interest other than just draining your wallet.
> >>
> >> The band adjustment procedure for a '93 32rh transmission is listed
> >> below.
> >>
> >> FWIW: DC recommends that ATF+4 be used as the transmission fluid in
place
> > of
> >> the factory Dexron fluid. DC also advises that most transmission
> >> problems
> >> are related to improper or contaminated fluid
> >>
> >> If your "shop" used anything except ATF+4 you might ask them why when
you
> > go
> >> to collect the refund they owe you...... after all they did not
complete
> > the
> >> service you paid for (and lied to you to boot!) and you now need to
have
> >> a
> >> qualified shop repair their "repair".
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ADJUSTMENTS
> >>
> >> NOTE: Bands on the AW-4 transmission are not adjustable. If slippage
> > occurs,
> >> bands must be replaced.
> >>
> >> KICKDOWN (FRONT) BAND
> >>
> >> 32RH
> >>
> >> 1) Locate kickdown band adjusting screw on left side of case
> >>
> >> (near throttle lever shaft). See Fig. 1. Loosen adjusting screw lock
> >>
> >> nut and back off 4-5 turns. Ensure adjusting screw turns freely in
> >>
> >> case.
> >>
> >> 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). If
> >>
> >> Adapter Extension (J-24063) is used, tighten adjusting screw to 50
> >>
> >> INCH lbs. (5 N.m). Back off adjusting screw 2 1/2 turns. Hold
> >>
> >> adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 30 ft. lbs. (41 N.m).
> >>
> >> LOW-REVERSE (REAR) BAND (TYPICAL)
> >>
> >> 32RH
> >>
> >> 1) Raise and support vehicle. Drain transmission fluid and remove oil
> >> pan.
> >> Locate low-reverse band adjusting screw on rear servo lever. See Fig.
2.
> >> Loosen adjusting screw lock nut. Back off lock nut 5-6 turns.
> >>
> >> 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). Back off adjusting
> > screw
> >> 4 turns. Hold adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 25 ft. lbs. (34
> > N.m).
> >> Install oil pan and fill transmission with fluid.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Good Luck and welcome,
> >>
> >> -br
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "paul" <SPAMpdrapeau@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> news:45c91c2e$0$24510$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> >> > 93 YJ auto tranny.
> >> >
> >> > Changed fluid and filter. Shop said that there were no bands on the
> > model
> >> > that I have (32RH ).
> >> >
> >> > Transmission is still slipping when accelerated hard.
> >> >
> >> > Do I:
> >> >
> >> > 1) have current transmission re-built?
> >> >
> >> > 2) have a already re-built unit tranny put in?
> >> >
> >> > 3) upgrade?
> >> >
> >> > I will be getting a bonus check next week (not sure how much) and
might
> >> > have a few extra greenbacks to throw around.....
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > tia
> >> >
> >> > paul
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > p.s. type face has changed whilst composing,,, not sure what this
will
> >> > look like posted,,, apologies if it is as small as it looks now :-\
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
 

Actually, the attornies that I know are high functioning "developmentally
disabled" persons. All they know are Colorado Water Law and real estate,
but they will try to tell you that they know everything. Of course, I live
in Southwest Colorado, and what else is there? A retired lawyer wants to
start an ACLU branch in Durango, and has lots of the locals upset. This
will "increase the cost of government" and other balderdash. If people here
didn't elect idiots, there would be no need for an ACLU branch and this guy
wouldn't get any customers. My neighbor is suing the Sheriff's Office and
every government entity in site for police brutality. It can happen
anywhere.

www.silvertoncolorado.com

Earle

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:8f0c9$45ca0323$422afc51$20775@FUSE.NET...
> Not all attorneys are the Shyster Spawn of Satan, there must be a few
that
> feel remorse at amassing wealth at the misfortune of others.
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
> news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a case
> > like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is
to
> >
>
>

Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
 

Actually, the attornies that I know are high functioning "developmentally
disabled" persons. All they know are Colorado Water Law and real estate,
but they will try to tell you that they know everything. Of course, I live
in Southwest Colorado, and what else is there? A retired lawyer wants to
start an ACLU branch in Durango, and has lots of the locals upset. This
will "increase the cost of government" and other balderdash. If people here
didn't elect idiots, there would be no need for an ACLU branch and this guy
wouldn't get any customers. My neighbor is suing the Sheriff's Office and
every government entity in site for police brutality. It can happen
anywhere.

www.silvertoncolorado.com

Earle

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:8f0c9$45ca0323$422afc51$20775@FUSE.NET...
> Not all attorneys are the Shyster Spawn of Satan, there must be a few
that
> feel remorse at amassing wealth at the misfortune of others.
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
> news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a case
> > like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is
to
> >
>
>

Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
 

Actually, the attornies that I know are high functioning "developmentally
disabled" persons. All they know are Colorado Water Law and real estate,
but they will try to tell you that they know everything. Of course, I live
in Southwest Colorado, and what else is there? A retired lawyer wants to
start an ACLU branch in Durango, and has lots of the locals upset. This
will "increase the cost of government" and other balderdash. If people here
didn't elect idiots, there would be no need for an ACLU branch and this guy
wouldn't get any customers. My neighbor is suing the Sheriff's Office and
every government entity in site for police brutality. It can happen
anywhere.

www.silvertoncolorado.com

Earle

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:8f0c9$45ca0323$422afc51$20775@FUSE.NET...
> Not all attorneys are the Shyster Spawn of Satan, there must be a few
that
> feel remorse at amassing wealth at the misfortune of others.
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
> news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a case
> > like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is
to
> >
>
>

Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
 

Actually, the attornies that I know are high functioning "developmentally
disabled" persons. All they know are Colorado Water Law and real estate,
but they will try to tell you that they know everything. Of course, I live
in Southwest Colorado, and what else is there? A retired lawyer wants to
start an ACLU branch in Durango, and has lots of the locals upset. This
will "increase the cost of government" and other balderdash. If people here
didn't elect idiots, there would be no need for an ACLU branch and this guy
wouldn't get any customers. My neighbor is suing the Sheriff's Office and
every government entity in site for police brutality. It can happen
anywhere.

www.silvertoncolorado.com

Earle

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:8f0c9$45ca0323$422afc51$20775@FUSE.NET...
> Not all attorneys are the Shyster Spawn of Satan, there must be a few
that
> feel remorse at amassing wealth at the misfortune of others.
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
> news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a case
> > like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is
to
> >
>
>

Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
 

I have a former sister-in-law that plans to move there for the peaceful
life........ won't she be surprised...


"Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
news:aJGdnbMJnKm3k1fYnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Actually, the attornies that I know are high functioning "developmentally
> disabled" persons. All they know are Colorado Water Law and real estate,
> but they will try to tell you that they know everything. Of course, I
> live
> in Southwest Colorado, and what else is there? A retired lawyer wants to
> start an ACLU branch in Durango, and has lots of the locals upset. This
> will "increase the cost of government" and other balderdash. If people
> here
> didn't elect idiots, there would be no need for an ACLU branch and this
> guy
> wouldn't get any customers. My neighbor is suing the Sheriff's Office and
> every government entity in site for police brutality. It can happen
> anywhere.
>
> www.silvertoncolorado.com
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:8f0c9$45ca0323$422afc51$20775@FUSE.NET...
>> Not all attorneys are the Shyster Spawn of Satan, there must be a few
> that
>> feel remorse at amassing wealth at the misfortune of others.
>>
>>
>> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
>> news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> >I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a
>> >case
>> > like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is
> to
>> >
>>
>>
>
>