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93 YJ auto transmission quandary
93 YJ auto tranny.
Changed fluid and filter. Shop said that there were no bands on the model that I have (32RH ). Transmission is still slipping when accelerated hard. Do I: 1) have current transmission re-built? 2) have a already re-built unit tranny put in? 3) upgrade? I will be getting a bonus check next week (not sure how much) and might have a few extra greenbacks to throw around..... tia paul p.s. type face has changed whilst composing,,, not sure what this will look like posted,,, apologies if it is as small as it looks now :-\ |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
If you are not pretty familiar with this sort of thing, I highly
recommend that you have someone else perform the work. Do NOT shop for the "cheap" deal or you will be sorry. Look for a warranty that covers BOTH parts and labor. I would be tempted to take it to a Jeep dealer if yours is reputable, they will be most likely to stand behind the warranty. Don't forget, after you get it replaced you need to service it on regular basis. Always use the "Severe Service" maintenance intervals in your manual! Good Luck, Bruce |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
If you are not pretty familiar with this sort of thing, I highly
recommend that you have someone else perform the work. Do NOT shop for the "cheap" deal or you will be sorry. Look for a warranty that covers BOTH parts and labor. I would be tempted to take it to a Jeep dealer if yours is reputable, they will be most likely to stand behind the warranty. Don't forget, after you get it replaced you need to service it on regular basis. Always use the "Severe Service" maintenance intervals in your manual! Good Luck, Bruce |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
If you are not pretty familiar with this sort of thing, I highly
recommend that you have someone else perform the work. Do NOT shop for the "cheap" deal or you will be sorry. Look for a warranty that covers BOTH parts and labor. I would be tempted to take it to a Jeep dealer if yours is reputable, they will be most likely to stand behind the warranty. Don't forget, after you get it replaced you need to service it on regular basis. Always use the "Severe Service" maintenance intervals in your manual! Good Luck, Bruce |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
If you are not pretty familiar with this sort of thing, I highly
recommend that you have someone else perform the work. Do NOT shop for the "cheap" deal or you will be sorry. Look for a warranty that covers BOTH parts and labor. I would be tempted to take it to a Jeep dealer if yours is reputable, they will be most likely to stand behind the warranty. Don't forget, after you get it replaced you need to service it on regular basis. Always use the "Severe Service" maintenance intervals in your manual! Good Luck, Bruce |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
Paul,
You need to find a qualified "shop" to work on your Jeep that has some interest other than just draining your wallet. The band adjustment procedure for a '93 32rh transmission is listed below. FWIW: DC recommends that ATF+4 be used as the transmission fluid in place of the factory Dexron fluid. DC also advises that most transmission problems are related to improper or contaminated fluid If your "shop" used anything except ATF+4 you might ask them why when you go to collect the refund they owe you...... after all they did not complete the service you paid for (and lied to you to boot!) and you now need to have a qualified shop repair their "repair". ADJUSTMENTS NOTE: Bands on the AW-4 transmission are not adjustable. If slippage occurs, bands must be replaced. KICKDOWN (FRONT) BAND 32RH 1) Locate kickdown band adjusting screw on left side of case (near throttle lever shaft). See Fig. 1. Loosen adjusting screw lock nut and back off 4-5 turns. Ensure adjusting screw turns freely in case. 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). If Adapter Extension (J-24063) is used, tighten adjusting screw to 50 INCH lbs. (5 N.m). Back off adjusting screw 2 1/2 turns. Hold adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 30 ft. lbs. (41 N.m). LOW-REVERSE (REAR) BAND (TYPICAL) 32RH 1) Raise and support vehicle. Drain transmission fluid and remove oil pan. Locate low-reverse band adjusting screw on rear servo lever. See Fig. 2. Loosen adjusting screw lock nut. Back off lock nut 5-6 turns. 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). Back off adjusting screw 4 turns. Hold adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 25 ft. lbs. (34 N.m). Install oil pan and fill transmission with fluid. Good Luck and welcome, -br "paul" <SPAMpdrapeau@wi.rr.com> wrote in message news:45c91c2e$0$24510$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > 93 YJ auto tranny. > > Changed fluid and filter. Shop said that there were no bands on the model > that I have (32RH ). > > Transmission is still slipping when accelerated hard. > > Do I: > > 1) have current transmission re-built? > > 2) have a already re-built unit tranny put in? > > 3) upgrade? > > I will be getting a bonus check next week (not sure how much) and might > have a few extra greenbacks to throw around..... > > > > tia > > paul > > > > p.s. type face has changed whilst composing,,, not sure what this will > look like posted,,, apologies if it is as small as it looks now :-\ > > |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
Paul,
You need to find a qualified "shop" to work on your Jeep that has some interest other than just draining your wallet. The band adjustment procedure for a '93 32rh transmission is listed below. FWIW: DC recommends that ATF+4 be used as the transmission fluid in place of the factory Dexron fluid. DC also advises that most transmission problems are related to improper or contaminated fluid If your "shop" used anything except ATF+4 you might ask them why when you go to collect the refund they owe you...... after all they did not complete the service you paid for (and lied to you to boot!) and you now need to have a qualified shop repair their "repair". ADJUSTMENTS NOTE: Bands on the AW-4 transmission are not adjustable. If slippage occurs, bands must be replaced. KICKDOWN (FRONT) BAND 32RH 1) Locate kickdown band adjusting screw on left side of case (near throttle lever shaft). See Fig. 1. Loosen adjusting screw lock nut and back off 4-5 turns. Ensure adjusting screw turns freely in case. 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). If Adapter Extension (J-24063) is used, tighten adjusting screw to 50 INCH lbs. (5 N.m). Back off adjusting screw 2 1/2 turns. Hold adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 30 ft. lbs. (41 N.m). LOW-REVERSE (REAR) BAND (TYPICAL) 32RH 1) Raise and support vehicle. Drain transmission fluid and remove oil pan. Locate low-reverse band adjusting screw on rear servo lever. See Fig. 2. Loosen adjusting screw lock nut. Back off lock nut 5-6 turns. 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). Back off adjusting screw 4 turns. Hold adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 25 ft. lbs. (34 N.m). Install oil pan and fill transmission with fluid. Good Luck and welcome, -br "paul" <SPAMpdrapeau@wi.rr.com> wrote in message news:45c91c2e$0$24510$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > 93 YJ auto tranny. > > Changed fluid and filter. Shop said that there were no bands on the model > that I have (32RH ). > > Transmission is still slipping when accelerated hard. > > Do I: > > 1) have current transmission re-built? > > 2) have a already re-built unit tranny put in? > > 3) upgrade? > > I will be getting a bonus check next week (not sure how much) and might > have a few extra greenbacks to throw around..... > > > > tia > > paul > > > > p.s. type face has changed whilst composing,,, not sure what this will > look like posted,,, apologies if it is as small as it looks now :-\ > > |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
Paul,
You need to find a qualified "shop" to work on your Jeep that has some interest other than just draining your wallet. The band adjustment procedure for a '93 32rh transmission is listed below. FWIW: DC recommends that ATF+4 be used as the transmission fluid in place of the factory Dexron fluid. DC also advises that most transmission problems are related to improper or contaminated fluid If your "shop" used anything except ATF+4 you might ask them why when you go to collect the refund they owe you...... after all they did not complete the service you paid for (and lied to you to boot!) and you now need to have a qualified shop repair their "repair". ADJUSTMENTS NOTE: Bands on the AW-4 transmission are not adjustable. If slippage occurs, bands must be replaced. KICKDOWN (FRONT) BAND 32RH 1) Locate kickdown band adjusting screw on left side of case (near throttle lever shaft). See Fig. 1. Loosen adjusting screw lock nut and back off 4-5 turns. Ensure adjusting screw turns freely in case. 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). If Adapter Extension (J-24063) is used, tighten adjusting screw to 50 INCH lbs. (5 N.m). Back off adjusting screw 2 1/2 turns. Hold adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 30 ft. lbs. (41 N.m). LOW-REVERSE (REAR) BAND (TYPICAL) 32RH 1) Raise and support vehicle. Drain transmission fluid and remove oil pan. Locate low-reverse band adjusting screw on rear servo lever. See Fig. 2. Loosen adjusting screw lock nut. Back off lock nut 5-6 turns. 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). Back off adjusting screw 4 turns. Hold adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 25 ft. lbs. (34 N.m). Install oil pan and fill transmission with fluid. Good Luck and welcome, -br "paul" <SPAMpdrapeau@wi.rr.com> wrote in message news:45c91c2e$0$24510$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > 93 YJ auto tranny. > > Changed fluid and filter. Shop said that there were no bands on the model > that I have (32RH ). > > Transmission is still slipping when accelerated hard. > > Do I: > > 1) have current transmission re-built? > > 2) have a already re-built unit tranny put in? > > 3) upgrade? > > I will be getting a bonus check next week (not sure how much) and might > have a few extra greenbacks to throw around..... > > > > tia > > paul > > > > p.s. type face has changed whilst composing,,, not sure what this will > look like posted,,, apologies if it is as small as it looks now :-\ > > |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
Paul,
You need to find a qualified "shop" to work on your Jeep that has some interest other than just draining your wallet. The band adjustment procedure for a '93 32rh transmission is listed below. FWIW: DC recommends that ATF+4 be used as the transmission fluid in place of the factory Dexron fluid. DC also advises that most transmission problems are related to improper or contaminated fluid If your "shop" used anything except ATF+4 you might ask them why when you go to collect the refund they owe you...... after all they did not complete the service you paid for (and lied to you to boot!) and you now need to have a qualified shop repair their "repair". ADJUSTMENTS NOTE: Bands on the AW-4 transmission are not adjustable. If slippage occurs, bands must be replaced. KICKDOWN (FRONT) BAND 32RH 1) Locate kickdown band adjusting screw on left side of case (near throttle lever shaft). See Fig. 1. Loosen adjusting screw lock nut and back off 4-5 turns. Ensure adjusting screw turns freely in case. 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). If Adapter Extension (J-24063) is used, tighten adjusting screw to 50 INCH lbs. (5 N.m). Back off adjusting screw 2 1/2 turns. Hold adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 30 ft. lbs. (41 N.m). LOW-REVERSE (REAR) BAND (TYPICAL) 32RH 1) Raise and support vehicle. Drain transmission fluid and remove oil pan. Locate low-reverse band adjusting screw on rear servo lever. See Fig. 2. Loosen adjusting screw lock nut. Back off lock nut 5-6 turns. 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). Back off adjusting screw 4 turns. Hold adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 25 ft. lbs. (34 N.m). Install oil pan and fill transmission with fluid. Good Luck and welcome, -br "paul" <SPAMpdrapeau@wi.rr.com> wrote in message news:45c91c2e$0$24510$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > 93 YJ auto tranny. > > Changed fluid and filter. Shop said that there were no bands on the model > that I have (32RH ). > > Transmission is still slipping when accelerated hard. > > Do I: > > 1) have current transmission re-built? > > 2) have a already re-built unit tranny put in? > > 3) upgrade? > > I will be getting a bonus check next week (not sure how much) and might > have a few extra greenbacks to throw around..... > > > > tia > > paul > > > > p.s. type face has changed whilst composing,,, not sure what this will > look like posted,,, apologies if it is as small as it looks now :-\ > > |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a case
like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is to offer to let the shop make things right. You go back there and tell them that the transmission has bands, that you want adjusted. If you don't give them a chance to make things right, then you have less leverage for asking for a refund. Sure they have no business being in business if they are idiots, but anyone can make a mistake. As far as the fluid type is concerned, if DC is now recommending a fluid, that is different and much more expensive than the factory fluid, then the shop owner has a right to question whether this is reasonable, and to impose an added charge when the customer wants it. Lots of the chains have small print that says which fluid they are willing to include in their standard service charge. If you let bands slip for too long then they get glazed or worn to the point where replacement is indeed necessary. Earle "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:2e26c$45c9e7f8$422afc51$16884@FUSE.NET... > Paul, > > You need to find a qualified "shop" to work on your Jeep that has some > interest other than just draining your wallet. > > The band adjustment procedure for a '93 32rh transmission is listed below. > > FWIW: DC recommends that ATF+4 be used as the transmission fluid in place of > the factory Dexron fluid. DC also advises that most transmission problems > are related to improper or contaminated fluid > > If your "shop" used anything except ATF+4 you might ask them why when you go > to collect the refund they owe you...... after all they did not complete the > service you paid for (and lied to you to boot!) and you now need to have a > qualified shop repair their "repair". > > > > > > ADJUSTMENTS > > NOTE: Bands on the AW-4 transmission are not adjustable. If slippage occurs, > bands must be replaced. > > KICKDOWN (FRONT) BAND > > 32RH > > 1) Locate kickdown band adjusting screw on left side of case > > (near throttle lever shaft). See Fig. 1. Loosen adjusting screw lock > > nut and back off 4-5 turns. Ensure adjusting screw turns freely in > > case. > > 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). If > > Adapter Extension (J-24063) is used, tighten adjusting screw to 50 > > INCH lbs. (5 N.m). Back off adjusting screw 2 1/2 turns. Hold > > adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 30 ft. lbs. (41 N.m). > > LOW-REVERSE (REAR) BAND (TYPICAL) > > 32RH > > 1) Raise and support vehicle. Drain transmission fluid and remove oil pan. > Locate low-reverse band adjusting screw on rear servo lever. See Fig. 2. > Loosen adjusting screw lock nut. Back off lock nut 5-6 turns. > > 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). Back off adjusting screw > 4 turns. Hold adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 25 ft. lbs. (34 N.m). > Install oil pan and fill transmission with fluid. > > > > Good Luck and welcome, > > -br > > > > "paul" <SPAMpdrapeau@wi.rr.com> wrote in message > news:45c91c2e$0$24510$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > > 93 YJ auto tranny. > > > > Changed fluid and filter. Shop said that there were no bands on the model > > that I have (32RH ). > > > > Transmission is still slipping when accelerated hard. > > > > Do I: > > > > 1) have current transmission re-built? > > > > 2) have a already re-built unit tranny put in? > > > > 3) upgrade? > > > > I will be getting a bonus check next week (not sure how much) and might > > have a few extra greenbacks to throw around..... > > > > > > > > tia > > > > paul > > > > > > > > p.s. type face has changed whilst composing,,, not sure what this will > > look like posted,,, apologies if it is as small as it looks now :-\ > > > > > > |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a case
like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is to offer to let the shop make things right. You go back there and tell them that the transmission has bands, that you want adjusted. If you don't give them a chance to make things right, then you have less leverage for asking for a refund. Sure they have no business being in business if they are idiots, but anyone can make a mistake. As far as the fluid type is concerned, if DC is now recommending a fluid, that is different and much more expensive than the factory fluid, then the shop owner has a right to question whether this is reasonable, and to impose an added charge when the customer wants it. Lots of the chains have small print that says which fluid they are willing to include in their standard service charge. If you let bands slip for too long then they get glazed or worn to the point where replacement is indeed necessary. Earle "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:2e26c$45c9e7f8$422afc51$16884@FUSE.NET... > Paul, > > You need to find a qualified "shop" to work on your Jeep that has some > interest other than just draining your wallet. > > The band adjustment procedure for a '93 32rh transmission is listed below. > > FWIW: DC recommends that ATF+4 be used as the transmission fluid in place of > the factory Dexron fluid. DC also advises that most transmission problems > are related to improper or contaminated fluid > > If your "shop" used anything except ATF+4 you might ask them why when you go > to collect the refund they owe you...... after all they did not complete the > service you paid for (and lied to you to boot!) and you now need to have a > qualified shop repair their "repair". > > > > > > ADJUSTMENTS > > NOTE: Bands on the AW-4 transmission are not adjustable. If slippage occurs, > bands must be replaced. > > KICKDOWN (FRONT) BAND > > 32RH > > 1) Locate kickdown band adjusting screw on left side of case > > (near throttle lever shaft). See Fig. 1. Loosen adjusting screw lock > > nut and back off 4-5 turns. Ensure adjusting screw turns freely in > > case. > > 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). If > > Adapter Extension (J-24063) is used, tighten adjusting screw to 50 > > INCH lbs. (5 N.m). Back off adjusting screw 2 1/2 turns. Hold > > adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 30 ft. lbs. (41 N.m). > > LOW-REVERSE (REAR) BAND (TYPICAL) > > 32RH > > 1) Raise and support vehicle. Drain transmission fluid and remove oil pan. > Locate low-reverse band adjusting screw on rear servo lever. See Fig. 2. > Loosen adjusting screw lock nut. Back off lock nut 5-6 turns. > > 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). Back off adjusting screw > 4 turns. Hold adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 25 ft. lbs. (34 N.m). > Install oil pan and fill transmission with fluid. > > > > Good Luck and welcome, > > -br > > > > "paul" <SPAMpdrapeau@wi.rr.com> wrote in message > news:45c91c2e$0$24510$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > > 93 YJ auto tranny. > > > > Changed fluid and filter. Shop said that there were no bands on the model > > that I have (32RH ). > > > > Transmission is still slipping when accelerated hard. > > > > Do I: > > > > 1) have current transmission re-built? > > > > 2) have a already re-built unit tranny put in? > > > > 3) upgrade? > > > > I will be getting a bonus check next week (not sure how much) and might > > have a few extra greenbacks to throw around..... > > > > > > > > tia > > > > paul > > > > > > > > p.s. type face has changed whilst composing,,, not sure what this will > > look like posted,,, apologies if it is as small as it looks now :-\ > > > > > > |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a case
like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is to offer to let the shop make things right. You go back there and tell them that the transmission has bands, that you want adjusted. If you don't give them a chance to make things right, then you have less leverage for asking for a refund. Sure they have no business being in business if they are idiots, but anyone can make a mistake. As far as the fluid type is concerned, if DC is now recommending a fluid, that is different and much more expensive than the factory fluid, then the shop owner has a right to question whether this is reasonable, and to impose an added charge when the customer wants it. Lots of the chains have small print that says which fluid they are willing to include in their standard service charge. If you let bands slip for too long then they get glazed or worn to the point where replacement is indeed necessary. Earle "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:2e26c$45c9e7f8$422afc51$16884@FUSE.NET... > Paul, > > You need to find a qualified "shop" to work on your Jeep that has some > interest other than just draining your wallet. > > The band adjustment procedure for a '93 32rh transmission is listed below. > > FWIW: DC recommends that ATF+4 be used as the transmission fluid in place of > the factory Dexron fluid. DC also advises that most transmission problems > are related to improper or contaminated fluid > > If your "shop" used anything except ATF+4 you might ask them why when you go > to collect the refund they owe you...... after all they did not complete the > service you paid for (and lied to you to boot!) and you now need to have a > qualified shop repair their "repair". > > > > > > ADJUSTMENTS > > NOTE: Bands on the AW-4 transmission are not adjustable. If slippage occurs, > bands must be replaced. > > KICKDOWN (FRONT) BAND > > 32RH > > 1) Locate kickdown band adjusting screw on left side of case > > (near throttle lever shaft). See Fig. 1. Loosen adjusting screw lock > > nut and back off 4-5 turns. Ensure adjusting screw turns freely in > > case. > > 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). If > > Adapter Extension (J-24063) is used, tighten adjusting screw to 50 > > INCH lbs. (5 N.m). Back off adjusting screw 2 1/2 turns. Hold > > adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 30 ft. lbs. (41 N.m). > > LOW-REVERSE (REAR) BAND (TYPICAL) > > 32RH > > 1) Raise and support vehicle. Drain transmission fluid and remove oil pan. > Locate low-reverse band adjusting screw on rear servo lever. See Fig. 2. > Loosen adjusting screw lock nut. Back off lock nut 5-6 turns. > > 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). Back off adjusting screw > 4 turns. Hold adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 25 ft. lbs. (34 N.m). > Install oil pan and fill transmission with fluid. > > > > Good Luck and welcome, > > -br > > > > "paul" <SPAMpdrapeau@wi.rr.com> wrote in message > news:45c91c2e$0$24510$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > > 93 YJ auto tranny. > > > > Changed fluid and filter. Shop said that there were no bands on the model > > that I have (32RH ). > > > > Transmission is still slipping when accelerated hard. > > > > Do I: > > > > 1) have current transmission re-built? > > > > 2) have a already re-built unit tranny put in? > > > > 3) upgrade? > > > > I will be getting a bonus check next week (not sure how much) and might > > have a few extra greenbacks to throw around..... > > > > > > > > tia > > > > paul > > > > > > > > p.s. type face has changed whilst composing,,, not sure what this will > > look like posted,,, apologies if it is as small as it looks now :-\ > > > > > > |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a case
like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is to offer to let the shop make things right. You go back there and tell them that the transmission has bands, that you want adjusted. If you don't give them a chance to make things right, then you have less leverage for asking for a refund. Sure they have no business being in business if they are idiots, but anyone can make a mistake. As far as the fluid type is concerned, if DC is now recommending a fluid, that is different and much more expensive than the factory fluid, then the shop owner has a right to question whether this is reasonable, and to impose an added charge when the customer wants it. Lots of the chains have small print that says which fluid they are willing to include in their standard service charge. If you let bands slip for too long then they get glazed or worn to the point where replacement is indeed necessary. Earle "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:2e26c$45c9e7f8$422afc51$16884@FUSE.NET... > Paul, > > You need to find a qualified "shop" to work on your Jeep that has some > interest other than just draining your wallet. > > The band adjustment procedure for a '93 32rh transmission is listed below. > > FWIW: DC recommends that ATF+4 be used as the transmission fluid in place of > the factory Dexron fluid. DC also advises that most transmission problems > are related to improper or contaminated fluid > > If your "shop" used anything except ATF+4 you might ask them why when you go > to collect the refund they owe you...... after all they did not complete the > service you paid for (and lied to you to boot!) and you now need to have a > qualified shop repair their "repair". > > > > > > ADJUSTMENTS > > NOTE: Bands on the AW-4 transmission are not adjustable. If slippage occurs, > bands must be replaced. > > KICKDOWN (FRONT) BAND > > 32RH > > 1) Locate kickdown band adjusting screw on left side of case > > (near throttle lever shaft). See Fig. 1. Loosen adjusting screw lock > > nut and back off 4-5 turns. Ensure adjusting screw turns freely in > > case. > > 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). If > > Adapter Extension (J-24063) is used, tighten adjusting screw to 50 > > INCH lbs. (5 N.m). Back off adjusting screw 2 1/2 turns. Hold > > adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 30 ft. lbs. (41 N.m). > > LOW-REVERSE (REAR) BAND (TYPICAL) > > 32RH > > 1) Raise and support vehicle. Drain transmission fluid and remove oil pan. > Locate low-reverse band adjusting screw on rear servo lever. See Fig. 2. > Loosen adjusting screw lock nut. Back off lock nut 5-6 turns. > > 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). Back off adjusting screw > 4 turns. Hold adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 25 ft. lbs. (34 N.m). > Install oil pan and fill transmission with fluid. > > > > Good Luck and welcome, > > -br > > > > "paul" <SPAMpdrapeau@wi.rr.com> wrote in message > news:45c91c2e$0$24510$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > > 93 YJ auto tranny. > > > > Changed fluid and filter. Shop said that there were no bands on the model > > that I have (32RH ). > > > > Transmission is still slipping when accelerated hard. > > > > Do I: > > > > 1) have current transmission re-built? > > > > 2) have a already re-built unit tranny put in? > > > > 3) upgrade? > > > > I will be getting a bonus check next week (not sure how much) and might > > have a few extra greenbacks to throw around..... > > > > > > > > tia > > > > paul > > > > > > > > p.s. type face has changed whilst composing,,, not sure what this will > > look like posted,,, apologies if it is as small as it looks now :-\ > > > > > > |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
I might disagree depending on how he requested the service. If he asked for
the service recommended by DC for his '93 then that price includes the ATF+4 which DC recommends (a competent mechanic would know the fluid specs have changed). If he said I want the $19.95 fluid change special utilizing recycled waste Red Chinese Tractor fluid then that is another matter. Paul, If you need the diagrams that go with the written directions just send me your e-mail address where you can receive attachments.... (and remind me it is for a '93 32rh band adjustment) "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a case > like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is to > offer to let the shop make things right. You go back there and tell them > that the transmission has bands, that you want adjusted. If you don't > give > them a chance to make things right, then you have less leverage for asking > for a refund. Sure they have no business being in business if they are > idiots, but anyone can make a mistake. > > As far as the fluid type is concerned, if DC is now recommending a fluid, > that is different and much more expensive than the factory fluid, then the > shop owner has a right to question whether this is reasonable, and to > impose > an added charge when the customer wants it. Lots of the chains have small > print that says which fluid they are willing to include in their standard > service charge. > > If you let bands slip for too long then they get glazed or worn to the > point > where replacement is indeed necessary. > > Earle > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > news:2e26c$45c9e7f8$422afc51$16884@FUSE.NET... >> Paul, >> >> You need to find a qualified "shop" to work on your Jeep that has some >> interest other than just draining your wallet. >> >> The band adjustment procedure for a '93 32rh transmission is listed >> below. >> >> FWIW: DC recommends that ATF+4 be used as the transmission fluid in place > of >> the factory Dexron fluid. DC also advises that most transmission >> problems >> are related to improper or contaminated fluid >> >> If your "shop" used anything except ATF+4 you might ask them why when you > go >> to collect the refund they owe you...... after all they did not complete > the >> service you paid for (and lied to you to boot!) and you now need to have >> a >> qualified shop repair their "repair". >> >> >> >> >> >> ADJUSTMENTS >> >> NOTE: Bands on the AW-4 transmission are not adjustable. If slippage > occurs, >> bands must be replaced. >> >> KICKDOWN (FRONT) BAND >> >> 32RH >> >> 1) Locate kickdown band adjusting screw on left side of case >> >> (near throttle lever shaft). See Fig. 1. Loosen adjusting screw lock >> >> nut and back off 4-5 turns. Ensure adjusting screw turns freely in >> >> case. >> >> 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). If >> >> Adapter Extension (J-24063) is used, tighten adjusting screw to 50 >> >> INCH lbs. (5 N.m). Back off adjusting screw 2 1/2 turns. Hold >> >> adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 30 ft. lbs. (41 N.m). >> >> LOW-REVERSE (REAR) BAND (TYPICAL) >> >> 32RH >> >> 1) Raise and support vehicle. Drain transmission fluid and remove oil >> pan. >> Locate low-reverse band adjusting screw on rear servo lever. See Fig. 2. >> Loosen adjusting screw lock nut. Back off lock nut 5-6 turns. >> >> 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). Back off adjusting > screw >> 4 turns. Hold adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 25 ft. lbs. (34 > N.m). >> Install oil pan and fill transmission with fluid. >> >> >> >> Good Luck and welcome, >> >> -br >> >> >> >> "paul" <SPAMpdrapeau@wi.rr.com> wrote in message >> news:45c91c2e$0$24510$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >> > 93 YJ auto tranny. >> > >> > Changed fluid and filter. Shop said that there were no bands on the > model >> > that I have (32RH ). >> > >> > Transmission is still slipping when accelerated hard. >> > >> > Do I: >> > >> > 1) have current transmission re-built? >> > >> > 2) have a already re-built unit tranny put in? >> > >> > 3) upgrade? >> > >> > I will be getting a bonus check next week (not sure how much) and might >> > have a few extra greenbacks to throw around..... >> > >> > >> > >> > tia >> > >> > paul >> > >> > >> > >> > p.s. type face has changed whilst composing,,, not sure what this will >> > look like posted,,, apologies if it is as small as it looks now :-\ >> > >> > >> >> > > |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
I might disagree depending on how he requested the service. If he asked for
the service recommended by DC for his '93 then that price includes the ATF+4 which DC recommends (a competent mechanic would know the fluid specs have changed). If he said I want the $19.95 fluid change special utilizing recycled waste Red Chinese Tractor fluid then that is another matter. Paul, If you need the diagrams that go with the written directions just send me your e-mail address where you can receive attachments.... (and remind me it is for a '93 32rh band adjustment) "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a case > like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is to > offer to let the shop make things right. You go back there and tell them > that the transmission has bands, that you want adjusted. If you don't > give > them a chance to make things right, then you have less leverage for asking > for a refund. Sure they have no business being in business if they are > idiots, but anyone can make a mistake. > > As far as the fluid type is concerned, if DC is now recommending a fluid, > that is different and much more expensive than the factory fluid, then the > shop owner has a right to question whether this is reasonable, and to > impose > an added charge when the customer wants it. Lots of the chains have small > print that says which fluid they are willing to include in their standard > service charge. > > If you let bands slip for too long then they get glazed or worn to the > point > where replacement is indeed necessary. > > Earle > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > news:2e26c$45c9e7f8$422afc51$16884@FUSE.NET... >> Paul, >> >> You need to find a qualified "shop" to work on your Jeep that has some >> interest other than just draining your wallet. >> >> The band adjustment procedure for a '93 32rh transmission is listed >> below. >> >> FWIW: DC recommends that ATF+4 be used as the transmission fluid in place > of >> the factory Dexron fluid. DC also advises that most transmission >> problems >> are related to improper or contaminated fluid >> >> If your "shop" used anything except ATF+4 you might ask them why when you > go >> to collect the refund they owe you...... after all they did not complete > the >> service you paid for (and lied to you to boot!) and you now need to have >> a >> qualified shop repair their "repair". >> >> >> >> >> >> ADJUSTMENTS >> >> NOTE: Bands on the AW-4 transmission are not adjustable. If slippage > occurs, >> bands must be replaced. >> >> KICKDOWN (FRONT) BAND >> >> 32RH >> >> 1) Locate kickdown band adjusting screw on left side of case >> >> (near throttle lever shaft). See Fig. 1. Loosen adjusting screw lock >> >> nut and back off 4-5 turns. Ensure adjusting screw turns freely in >> >> case. >> >> 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). If >> >> Adapter Extension (J-24063) is used, tighten adjusting screw to 50 >> >> INCH lbs. (5 N.m). Back off adjusting screw 2 1/2 turns. Hold >> >> adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 30 ft. lbs. (41 N.m). >> >> LOW-REVERSE (REAR) BAND (TYPICAL) >> >> 32RH >> >> 1) Raise and support vehicle. Drain transmission fluid and remove oil >> pan. >> Locate low-reverse band adjusting screw on rear servo lever. See Fig. 2. >> Loosen adjusting screw lock nut. Back off lock nut 5-6 turns. >> >> 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). Back off adjusting > screw >> 4 turns. Hold adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 25 ft. lbs. (34 > N.m). >> Install oil pan and fill transmission with fluid. >> >> >> >> Good Luck and welcome, >> >> -br >> >> >> >> "paul" <SPAMpdrapeau@wi.rr.com> wrote in message >> news:45c91c2e$0$24510$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >> > 93 YJ auto tranny. >> > >> > Changed fluid and filter. Shop said that there were no bands on the > model >> > that I have (32RH ). >> > >> > Transmission is still slipping when accelerated hard. >> > >> > Do I: >> > >> > 1) have current transmission re-built? >> > >> > 2) have a already re-built unit tranny put in? >> > >> > 3) upgrade? >> > >> > I will be getting a bonus check next week (not sure how much) and might >> > have a few extra greenbacks to throw around..... >> > >> > >> > >> > tia >> > >> > paul >> > >> > >> > >> > p.s. type face has changed whilst composing,,, not sure what this will >> > look like posted,,, apologies if it is as small as it looks now :-\ >> > >> > >> >> > > |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
I might disagree depending on how he requested the service. If he asked for
the service recommended by DC for his '93 then that price includes the ATF+4 which DC recommends (a competent mechanic would know the fluid specs have changed). If he said I want the $19.95 fluid change special utilizing recycled waste Red Chinese Tractor fluid then that is another matter. Paul, If you need the diagrams that go with the written directions just send me your e-mail address where you can receive attachments.... (and remind me it is for a '93 32rh band adjustment) "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a case > like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is to > offer to let the shop make things right. You go back there and tell them > that the transmission has bands, that you want adjusted. If you don't > give > them a chance to make things right, then you have less leverage for asking > for a refund. Sure they have no business being in business if they are > idiots, but anyone can make a mistake. > > As far as the fluid type is concerned, if DC is now recommending a fluid, > that is different and much more expensive than the factory fluid, then the > shop owner has a right to question whether this is reasonable, and to > impose > an added charge when the customer wants it. Lots of the chains have small > print that says which fluid they are willing to include in their standard > service charge. > > If you let bands slip for too long then they get glazed or worn to the > point > where replacement is indeed necessary. > > Earle > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > news:2e26c$45c9e7f8$422afc51$16884@FUSE.NET... >> Paul, >> >> You need to find a qualified "shop" to work on your Jeep that has some >> interest other than just draining your wallet. >> >> The band adjustment procedure for a '93 32rh transmission is listed >> below. >> >> FWIW: DC recommends that ATF+4 be used as the transmission fluid in place > of >> the factory Dexron fluid. DC also advises that most transmission >> problems >> are related to improper or contaminated fluid >> >> If your "shop" used anything except ATF+4 you might ask them why when you > go >> to collect the refund they owe you...... after all they did not complete > the >> service you paid for (and lied to you to boot!) and you now need to have >> a >> qualified shop repair their "repair". >> >> >> >> >> >> ADJUSTMENTS >> >> NOTE: Bands on the AW-4 transmission are not adjustable. If slippage > occurs, >> bands must be replaced. >> >> KICKDOWN (FRONT) BAND >> >> 32RH >> >> 1) Locate kickdown band adjusting screw on left side of case >> >> (near throttle lever shaft). See Fig. 1. Loosen adjusting screw lock >> >> nut and back off 4-5 turns. Ensure adjusting screw turns freely in >> >> case. >> >> 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). If >> >> Adapter Extension (J-24063) is used, tighten adjusting screw to 50 >> >> INCH lbs. (5 N.m). Back off adjusting screw 2 1/2 turns. Hold >> >> adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 30 ft. lbs. (41 N.m). >> >> LOW-REVERSE (REAR) BAND (TYPICAL) >> >> 32RH >> >> 1) Raise and support vehicle. Drain transmission fluid and remove oil >> pan. >> Locate low-reverse band adjusting screw on rear servo lever. See Fig. 2. >> Loosen adjusting screw lock nut. Back off lock nut 5-6 turns. >> >> 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). Back off adjusting > screw >> 4 turns. Hold adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 25 ft. lbs. (34 > N.m). >> Install oil pan and fill transmission with fluid. >> >> >> >> Good Luck and welcome, >> >> -br >> >> >> >> "paul" <SPAMpdrapeau@wi.rr.com> wrote in message >> news:45c91c2e$0$24510$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >> > 93 YJ auto tranny. >> > >> > Changed fluid and filter. Shop said that there were no bands on the > model >> > that I have (32RH ). >> > >> > Transmission is still slipping when accelerated hard. >> > >> > Do I: >> > >> > 1) have current transmission re-built? >> > >> > 2) have a already re-built unit tranny put in? >> > >> > 3) upgrade? >> > >> > I will be getting a bonus check next week (not sure how much) and might >> > have a few extra greenbacks to throw around..... >> > >> > >> > >> > tia >> > >> > paul >> > >> > >> > >> > p.s. type face has changed whilst composing,,, not sure what this will >> > look like posted,,, apologies if it is as small as it looks now :-\ >> > >> > >> >> > > |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
I might disagree depending on how he requested the service. If he asked for
the service recommended by DC for his '93 then that price includes the ATF+4 which DC recommends (a competent mechanic would know the fluid specs have changed). If he said I want the $19.95 fluid change special utilizing recycled waste Red Chinese Tractor fluid then that is another matter. Paul, If you need the diagrams that go with the written directions just send me your e-mail address where you can receive attachments.... (and remind me it is for a '93 32rh band adjustment) "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a case > like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is to > offer to let the shop make things right. You go back there and tell them > that the transmission has bands, that you want adjusted. If you don't > give > them a chance to make things right, then you have less leverage for asking > for a refund. Sure they have no business being in business if they are > idiots, but anyone can make a mistake. > > As far as the fluid type is concerned, if DC is now recommending a fluid, > that is different and much more expensive than the factory fluid, then the > shop owner has a right to question whether this is reasonable, and to > impose > an added charge when the customer wants it. Lots of the chains have small > print that says which fluid they are willing to include in their standard > service charge. > > If you let bands slip for too long then they get glazed or worn to the > point > where replacement is indeed necessary. > > Earle > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > news:2e26c$45c9e7f8$422afc51$16884@FUSE.NET... >> Paul, >> >> You need to find a qualified "shop" to work on your Jeep that has some >> interest other than just draining your wallet. >> >> The band adjustment procedure for a '93 32rh transmission is listed >> below. >> >> FWIW: DC recommends that ATF+4 be used as the transmission fluid in place > of >> the factory Dexron fluid. DC also advises that most transmission >> problems >> are related to improper or contaminated fluid >> >> If your "shop" used anything except ATF+4 you might ask them why when you > go >> to collect the refund they owe you...... after all they did not complete > the >> service you paid for (and lied to you to boot!) and you now need to have >> a >> qualified shop repair their "repair". >> >> >> >> >> >> ADJUSTMENTS >> >> NOTE: Bands on the AW-4 transmission are not adjustable. If slippage > occurs, >> bands must be replaced. >> >> KICKDOWN (FRONT) BAND >> >> 32RH >> >> 1) Locate kickdown band adjusting screw on left side of case >> >> (near throttle lever shaft). See Fig. 1. Loosen adjusting screw lock >> >> nut and back off 4-5 turns. Ensure adjusting screw turns freely in >> >> case. >> >> 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). If >> >> Adapter Extension (J-24063) is used, tighten adjusting screw to 50 >> >> INCH lbs. (5 N.m). Back off adjusting screw 2 1/2 turns. Hold >> >> adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 30 ft. lbs. (41 N.m). >> >> LOW-REVERSE (REAR) BAND (TYPICAL) >> >> 32RH >> >> 1) Raise and support vehicle. Drain transmission fluid and remove oil >> pan. >> Locate low-reverse band adjusting screw on rear servo lever. See Fig. 2. >> Loosen adjusting screw lock nut. Back off lock nut 5-6 turns. >> >> 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). Back off adjusting > screw >> 4 turns. Hold adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 25 ft. lbs. (34 > N.m). >> Install oil pan and fill transmission with fluid. >> >> >> >> Good Luck and welcome, >> >> -br >> >> >> >> "paul" <SPAMpdrapeau@wi.rr.com> wrote in message >> news:45c91c2e$0$24510$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >> > 93 YJ auto tranny. >> > >> > Changed fluid and filter. Shop said that there were no bands on the > model >> > that I have (32RH ). >> > >> > Transmission is still slipping when accelerated hard. >> > >> > Do I: >> > >> > 1) have current transmission re-built? >> > >> > 2) have a already re-built unit tranny put in? >> > >> > 3) upgrade? >> > >> > I will be getting a bonus check next week (not sure how much) and might >> > have a few extra greenbacks to throw around..... >> > >> > >> > >> > tia >> > >> > paul >> > >> > >> > >> > p.s. type face has changed whilst composing,,, not sure what this will >> > look like posted,,, apologies if it is as small as it looks now :-\ >> > >> > >> >> > > |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
Not all attorneys are the Shyster Spawn of Satan, there must be a few that
feel remorse at amassing wealth at the misfortune of others. "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a case > like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is to > |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
Not all attorneys are the Shyster Spawn of Satan, there must be a few that
feel remorse at amassing wealth at the misfortune of others. "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a case > like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is to > |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
Not all attorneys are the Shyster Spawn of Satan, there must be a few that
feel remorse at amassing wealth at the misfortune of others. "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a case > like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is to > |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
Not all attorneys are the Shyster Spawn of Satan, there must be a few that
feel remorse at amassing wealth at the misfortune of others. "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a case > like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is to > |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
"Nobody" is sophisticated enough to ask for "current manufacturer
recommended service" except maybe you. They assume that "industry standard" is "good enough" and they are probably right. I don't know about this particular transmission, but if it left the factory with Dexron III, then Dexron III is probably acceptable for it. How are ATF+4 prices recently? I haven't had to buy any since I traded my Ram Van on a Suburban. Now the manual transmission in my Honda Civic is another matter. Honda recommended engine oil in the owner's manual for that application, but the actual fluid specs have changed, and the oil that you find on the shelves now is not the same oil that was on the shelves eight years ago. In that case I have to get a special manual transmission fluid, which is reasonable. Earle "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:7d3f5$45ca0323$422afc51$20775@FUSE.NET... > I might disagree depending on how he requested the service. If he asked for > the service recommended by DC for his '93 then that price includes the ATF+4 > which DC recommends (a competent mechanic would know the fluid specs have > changed). If he said I want the $19.95 fluid change special utilizing > recycled waste Red Chinese Tractor fluid then that is another matter. > > Paul, If you need the diagrams that go with the written directions just send > me your e-mail address where you can receive attachments.... (and remind me > it is for a '93 32rh band adjustment) > > > > > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message > news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > >I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a case > > like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is to > > offer to let the shop make things right. You go back there and tell them > > that the transmission has bands, that you want adjusted. If you don't > > give > > them a chance to make things right, then you have less leverage for asking > > for a refund. Sure they have no business being in business if they are > > idiots, but anyone can make a mistake. > > > > As far as the fluid type is concerned, if DC is now recommending a fluid, > > that is different and much more expensive than the factory fluid, then the > > shop owner has a right to question whether this is reasonable, and to > > impose > > an added charge when the customer wants it. Lots of the chains have small > > print that says which fluid they are willing to include in their standard > > service charge. > > > > If you let bands slip for too long then they get glazed or worn to the > > point > > where replacement is indeed necessary. > > > > Earle > > > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > > news:2e26c$45c9e7f8$422afc51$16884@FUSE.NET... > >> Paul, > >> > >> You need to find a qualified "shop" to work on your Jeep that has some > >> interest other than just draining your wallet. > >> > >> The band adjustment procedure for a '93 32rh transmission is listed > >> below. > >> > >> FWIW: DC recommends that ATF+4 be used as the transmission fluid in place > > of > >> the factory Dexron fluid. DC also advises that most transmission > >> problems > >> are related to improper or contaminated fluid > >> > >> If your "shop" used anything except ATF+4 you might ask them why when you > > go > >> to collect the refund they owe you...... after all they did not complete > > the > >> service you paid for (and lied to you to boot!) and you now need to have > >> a > >> qualified shop repair their "repair". > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ADJUSTMENTS > >> > >> NOTE: Bands on the AW-4 transmission are not adjustable. If slippage > > occurs, > >> bands must be replaced. > >> > >> KICKDOWN (FRONT) BAND > >> > >> 32RH > >> > >> 1) Locate kickdown band adjusting screw on left side of case > >> > >> (near throttle lever shaft). See Fig. 1. Loosen adjusting screw lock > >> > >> nut and back off 4-5 turns. Ensure adjusting screw turns freely in > >> > >> case. > >> > >> 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). If > >> > >> Adapter Extension (J-24063) is used, tighten adjusting screw to 50 > >> > >> INCH lbs. (5 N.m). Back off adjusting screw 2 1/2 turns. Hold > >> > >> adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 30 ft. lbs. (41 N.m). > >> > >> LOW-REVERSE (REAR) BAND (TYPICAL) > >> > >> 32RH > >> > >> 1) Raise and support vehicle. Drain transmission fluid and remove oil > >> pan. > >> Locate low-reverse band adjusting screw on rear servo lever. See Fig. 2. > >> Loosen adjusting screw lock nut. Back off lock nut 5-6 turns. > >> > >> 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). Back off adjusting > > screw > >> 4 turns. Hold adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 25 ft. lbs. (34 > > N.m). > >> Install oil pan and fill transmission with fluid. > >> > >> > >> > >> Good Luck and welcome, > >> > >> -br > >> > >> > >> > >> "paul" <SPAMpdrapeau@wi.rr.com> wrote in message > >> news:45c91c2e$0$24510$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > >> > 93 YJ auto tranny. > >> > > >> > Changed fluid and filter. Shop said that there were no bands on the > > model > >> > that I have (32RH ). > >> > > >> > Transmission is still slipping when accelerated hard. > >> > > >> > Do I: > >> > > >> > 1) have current transmission re-built? > >> > > >> > 2) have a already re-built unit tranny put in? > >> > > >> > 3) upgrade? > >> > > >> > I will be getting a bonus check next week (not sure how much) and might > >> > have a few extra greenbacks to throw around..... > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > tia > >> > > >> > paul > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > p.s. type face has changed whilst composing,,, not sure what this will > >> > look like posted,,, apologies if it is as small as it looks now :-\ > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
"Nobody" is sophisticated enough to ask for "current manufacturer
recommended service" except maybe you. They assume that "industry standard" is "good enough" and they are probably right. I don't know about this particular transmission, but if it left the factory with Dexron III, then Dexron III is probably acceptable for it. How are ATF+4 prices recently? I haven't had to buy any since I traded my Ram Van on a Suburban. Now the manual transmission in my Honda Civic is another matter. Honda recommended engine oil in the owner's manual for that application, but the actual fluid specs have changed, and the oil that you find on the shelves now is not the same oil that was on the shelves eight years ago. In that case I have to get a special manual transmission fluid, which is reasonable. Earle "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:7d3f5$45ca0323$422afc51$20775@FUSE.NET... > I might disagree depending on how he requested the service. If he asked for > the service recommended by DC for his '93 then that price includes the ATF+4 > which DC recommends (a competent mechanic would know the fluid specs have > changed). If he said I want the $19.95 fluid change special utilizing > recycled waste Red Chinese Tractor fluid then that is another matter. > > Paul, If you need the diagrams that go with the written directions just send > me your e-mail address where you can receive attachments.... (and remind me > it is for a '93 32rh band adjustment) > > > > > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message > news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > >I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a case > > like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is to > > offer to let the shop make things right. You go back there and tell them > > that the transmission has bands, that you want adjusted. If you don't > > give > > them a chance to make things right, then you have less leverage for asking > > for a refund. Sure they have no business being in business if they are > > idiots, but anyone can make a mistake. > > > > As far as the fluid type is concerned, if DC is now recommending a fluid, > > that is different and much more expensive than the factory fluid, then the > > shop owner has a right to question whether this is reasonable, and to > > impose > > an added charge when the customer wants it. Lots of the chains have small > > print that says which fluid they are willing to include in their standard > > service charge. > > > > If you let bands slip for too long then they get glazed or worn to the > > point > > where replacement is indeed necessary. > > > > Earle > > > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > > news:2e26c$45c9e7f8$422afc51$16884@FUSE.NET... > >> Paul, > >> > >> You need to find a qualified "shop" to work on your Jeep that has some > >> interest other than just draining your wallet. > >> > >> The band adjustment procedure for a '93 32rh transmission is listed > >> below. > >> > >> FWIW: DC recommends that ATF+4 be used as the transmission fluid in place > > of > >> the factory Dexron fluid. DC also advises that most transmission > >> problems > >> are related to improper or contaminated fluid > >> > >> If your "shop" used anything except ATF+4 you might ask them why when you > > go > >> to collect the refund they owe you...... after all they did not complete > > the > >> service you paid for (and lied to you to boot!) and you now need to have > >> a > >> qualified shop repair their "repair". > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ADJUSTMENTS > >> > >> NOTE: Bands on the AW-4 transmission are not adjustable. If slippage > > occurs, > >> bands must be replaced. > >> > >> KICKDOWN (FRONT) BAND > >> > >> 32RH > >> > >> 1) Locate kickdown band adjusting screw on left side of case > >> > >> (near throttle lever shaft). See Fig. 1. Loosen adjusting screw lock > >> > >> nut and back off 4-5 turns. Ensure adjusting screw turns freely in > >> > >> case. > >> > >> 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). If > >> > >> Adapter Extension (J-24063) is used, tighten adjusting screw to 50 > >> > >> INCH lbs. (5 N.m). Back off adjusting screw 2 1/2 turns. Hold > >> > >> adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 30 ft. lbs. (41 N.m). > >> > >> LOW-REVERSE (REAR) BAND (TYPICAL) > >> > >> 32RH > >> > >> 1) Raise and support vehicle. Drain transmission fluid and remove oil > >> pan. > >> Locate low-reverse band adjusting screw on rear servo lever. See Fig. 2. > >> Loosen adjusting screw lock nut. Back off lock nut 5-6 turns. > >> > >> 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). Back off adjusting > > screw > >> 4 turns. Hold adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 25 ft. lbs. (34 > > N.m). > >> Install oil pan and fill transmission with fluid. > >> > >> > >> > >> Good Luck and welcome, > >> > >> -br > >> > >> > >> > >> "paul" <SPAMpdrapeau@wi.rr.com> wrote in message > >> news:45c91c2e$0$24510$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > >> > 93 YJ auto tranny. > >> > > >> > Changed fluid and filter. Shop said that there were no bands on the > > model > >> > that I have (32RH ). > >> > > >> > Transmission is still slipping when accelerated hard. > >> > > >> > Do I: > >> > > >> > 1) have current transmission re-built? > >> > > >> > 2) have a already re-built unit tranny put in? > >> > > >> > 3) upgrade? > >> > > >> > I will be getting a bonus check next week (not sure how much) and might > >> > have a few extra greenbacks to throw around..... > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > tia > >> > > >> > paul > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > p.s. type face has changed whilst composing,,, not sure what this will > >> > look like posted,,, apologies if it is as small as it looks now :-\ > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
"Nobody" is sophisticated enough to ask for "current manufacturer
recommended service" except maybe you. They assume that "industry standard" is "good enough" and they are probably right. I don't know about this particular transmission, but if it left the factory with Dexron III, then Dexron III is probably acceptable for it. How are ATF+4 prices recently? I haven't had to buy any since I traded my Ram Van on a Suburban. Now the manual transmission in my Honda Civic is another matter. Honda recommended engine oil in the owner's manual for that application, but the actual fluid specs have changed, and the oil that you find on the shelves now is not the same oil that was on the shelves eight years ago. In that case I have to get a special manual transmission fluid, which is reasonable. Earle "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:7d3f5$45ca0323$422afc51$20775@FUSE.NET... > I might disagree depending on how he requested the service. If he asked for > the service recommended by DC for his '93 then that price includes the ATF+4 > which DC recommends (a competent mechanic would know the fluid specs have > changed). If he said I want the $19.95 fluid change special utilizing > recycled waste Red Chinese Tractor fluid then that is another matter. > > Paul, If you need the diagrams that go with the written directions just send > me your e-mail address where you can receive attachments.... (and remind me > it is for a '93 32rh band adjustment) > > > > > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message > news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > >I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a case > > like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is to > > offer to let the shop make things right. You go back there and tell them > > that the transmission has bands, that you want adjusted. If you don't > > give > > them a chance to make things right, then you have less leverage for asking > > for a refund. Sure they have no business being in business if they are > > idiots, but anyone can make a mistake. > > > > As far as the fluid type is concerned, if DC is now recommending a fluid, > > that is different and much more expensive than the factory fluid, then the > > shop owner has a right to question whether this is reasonable, and to > > impose > > an added charge when the customer wants it. Lots of the chains have small > > print that says which fluid they are willing to include in their standard > > service charge. > > > > If you let bands slip for too long then they get glazed or worn to the > > point > > where replacement is indeed necessary. > > > > Earle > > > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > > news:2e26c$45c9e7f8$422afc51$16884@FUSE.NET... > >> Paul, > >> > >> You need to find a qualified "shop" to work on your Jeep that has some > >> interest other than just draining your wallet. > >> > >> The band adjustment procedure for a '93 32rh transmission is listed > >> below. > >> > >> FWIW: DC recommends that ATF+4 be used as the transmission fluid in place > > of > >> the factory Dexron fluid. DC also advises that most transmission > >> problems > >> are related to improper or contaminated fluid > >> > >> If your "shop" used anything except ATF+4 you might ask them why when you > > go > >> to collect the refund they owe you...... after all they did not complete > > the > >> service you paid for (and lied to you to boot!) and you now need to have > >> a > >> qualified shop repair their "repair". > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ADJUSTMENTS > >> > >> NOTE: Bands on the AW-4 transmission are not adjustable. If slippage > > occurs, > >> bands must be replaced. > >> > >> KICKDOWN (FRONT) BAND > >> > >> 32RH > >> > >> 1) Locate kickdown band adjusting screw on left side of case > >> > >> (near throttle lever shaft). See Fig. 1. Loosen adjusting screw lock > >> > >> nut and back off 4-5 turns. Ensure adjusting screw turns freely in > >> > >> case. > >> > >> 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). If > >> > >> Adapter Extension (J-24063) is used, tighten adjusting screw to 50 > >> > >> INCH lbs. (5 N.m). Back off adjusting screw 2 1/2 turns. Hold > >> > >> adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 30 ft. lbs. (41 N.m). > >> > >> LOW-REVERSE (REAR) BAND (TYPICAL) > >> > >> 32RH > >> > >> 1) Raise and support vehicle. Drain transmission fluid and remove oil > >> pan. > >> Locate low-reverse band adjusting screw on rear servo lever. See Fig. 2. > >> Loosen adjusting screw lock nut. Back off lock nut 5-6 turns. > >> > >> 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). Back off adjusting > > screw > >> 4 turns. Hold adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 25 ft. lbs. (34 > > N.m). > >> Install oil pan and fill transmission with fluid. > >> > >> > >> > >> Good Luck and welcome, > >> > >> -br > >> > >> > >> > >> "paul" <SPAMpdrapeau@wi.rr.com> wrote in message > >> news:45c91c2e$0$24510$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > >> > 93 YJ auto tranny. > >> > > >> > Changed fluid and filter. Shop said that there were no bands on the > > model > >> > that I have (32RH ). > >> > > >> > Transmission is still slipping when accelerated hard. > >> > > >> > Do I: > >> > > >> > 1) have current transmission re-built? > >> > > >> > 2) have a already re-built unit tranny put in? > >> > > >> > 3) upgrade? > >> > > >> > I will be getting a bonus check next week (not sure how much) and might > >> > have a few extra greenbacks to throw around..... > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > tia > >> > > >> > paul > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > p.s. type face has changed whilst composing,,, not sure what this will > >> > look like posted,,, apologies if it is as small as it looks now :-\ > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
"Nobody" is sophisticated enough to ask for "current manufacturer
recommended service" except maybe you. They assume that "industry standard" is "good enough" and they are probably right. I don't know about this particular transmission, but if it left the factory with Dexron III, then Dexron III is probably acceptable for it. How are ATF+4 prices recently? I haven't had to buy any since I traded my Ram Van on a Suburban. Now the manual transmission in my Honda Civic is another matter. Honda recommended engine oil in the owner's manual for that application, but the actual fluid specs have changed, and the oil that you find on the shelves now is not the same oil that was on the shelves eight years ago. In that case I have to get a special manual transmission fluid, which is reasonable. Earle "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:7d3f5$45ca0323$422afc51$20775@FUSE.NET... > I might disagree depending on how he requested the service. If he asked for > the service recommended by DC for his '93 then that price includes the ATF+4 > which DC recommends (a competent mechanic would know the fluid specs have > changed). If he said I want the $19.95 fluid change special utilizing > recycled waste Red Chinese Tractor fluid then that is another matter. > > Paul, If you need the diagrams that go with the written directions just send > me your e-mail address where you can receive attachments.... (and remind me > it is for a '93 32rh band adjustment) > > > > > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message > news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > >I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a case > > like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is to > > offer to let the shop make things right. You go back there and tell them > > that the transmission has bands, that you want adjusted. If you don't > > give > > them a chance to make things right, then you have less leverage for asking > > for a refund. Sure they have no business being in business if they are > > idiots, but anyone can make a mistake. > > > > As far as the fluid type is concerned, if DC is now recommending a fluid, > > that is different and much more expensive than the factory fluid, then the > > shop owner has a right to question whether this is reasonable, and to > > impose > > an added charge when the customer wants it. Lots of the chains have small > > print that says which fluid they are willing to include in their standard > > service charge. > > > > If you let bands slip for too long then they get glazed or worn to the > > point > > where replacement is indeed necessary. > > > > Earle > > > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > > news:2e26c$45c9e7f8$422afc51$16884@FUSE.NET... > >> Paul, > >> > >> You need to find a qualified "shop" to work on your Jeep that has some > >> interest other than just draining your wallet. > >> > >> The band adjustment procedure for a '93 32rh transmission is listed > >> below. > >> > >> FWIW: DC recommends that ATF+4 be used as the transmission fluid in place > > of > >> the factory Dexron fluid. DC also advises that most transmission > >> problems > >> are related to improper or contaminated fluid > >> > >> If your "shop" used anything except ATF+4 you might ask them why when you > > go > >> to collect the refund they owe you...... after all they did not complete > > the > >> service you paid for (and lied to you to boot!) and you now need to have > >> a > >> qualified shop repair their "repair". > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ADJUSTMENTS > >> > >> NOTE: Bands on the AW-4 transmission are not adjustable. If slippage > > occurs, > >> bands must be replaced. > >> > >> KICKDOWN (FRONT) BAND > >> > >> 32RH > >> > >> 1) Locate kickdown band adjusting screw on left side of case > >> > >> (near throttle lever shaft). See Fig. 1. Loosen adjusting screw lock > >> > >> nut and back off 4-5 turns. Ensure adjusting screw turns freely in > >> > >> case. > >> > >> 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). If > >> > >> Adapter Extension (J-24063) is used, tighten adjusting screw to 50 > >> > >> INCH lbs. (5 N.m). Back off adjusting screw 2 1/2 turns. Hold > >> > >> adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 30 ft. lbs. (41 N.m). > >> > >> LOW-REVERSE (REAR) BAND (TYPICAL) > >> > >> 32RH > >> > >> 1) Raise and support vehicle. Drain transmission fluid and remove oil > >> pan. > >> Locate low-reverse band adjusting screw on rear servo lever. See Fig. 2. > >> Loosen adjusting screw lock nut. Back off lock nut 5-6 turns. > >> > >> 2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). Back off adjusting > > screw > >> 4 turns. Hold adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 25 ft. lbs. (34 > > N.m). > >> Install oil pan and fill transmission with fluid. > >> > >> > >> > >> Good Luck and welcome, > >> > >> -br > >> > >> > >> > >> "paul" <SPAMpdrapeau@wi.rr.com> wrote in message > >> news:45c91c2e$0$24510$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > >> > 93 YJ auto tranny. > >> > > >> > Changed fluid and filter. Shop said that there were no bands on the > > model > >> > that I have (32RH ). > >> > > >> > Transmission is still slipping when accelerated hard. > >> > > >> > Do I: > >> > > >> > 1) have current transmission re-built? > >> > > >> > 2) have a already re-built unit tranny put in? > >> > > >> > 3) upgrade? > >> > > >> > I will be getting a bonus check next week (not sure how much) and might > >> > have a few extra greenbacks to throw around..... > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > tia > >> > > >> > paul > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > p.s. type face has changed whilst composing,,, not sure what this will > >> > look like posted,,, apologies if it is as small as it looks now :-\ > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
Actually, the attornies that I know are high functioning "developmentally
disabled" persons. All they know are Colorado Water Law and real estate, but they will try to tell you that they know everything. Of course, I live in Southwest Colorado, and what else is there? A retired lawyer wants to start an ACLU branch in Durango, and has lots of the locals upset. This will "increase the cost of government" and other balderdash. If people here didn't elect idiots, there would be no need for an ACLU branch and this guy wouldn't get any customers. My neighbor is suing the Sheriff's Office and every government entity in site for police brutality. It can happen anywhere. www.silvertoncolorado.com Earle "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:8f0c9$45ca0323$422afc51$20775@FUSE.NET... > Not all attorneys are the Shyster Spawn of Satan, there must be a few that > feel remorse at amassing wealth at the misfortune of others. > > > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message > news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > >I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a case > > like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is to > > > > |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
Actually, the attornies that I know are high functioning "developmentally
disabled" persons. All they know are Colorado Water Law and real estate, but they will try to tell you that they know everything. Of course, I live in Southwest Colorado, and what else is there? A retired lawyer wants to start an ACLU branch in Durango, and has lots of the locals upset. This will "increase the cost of government" and other balderdash. If people here didn't elect idiots, there would be no need for an ACLU branch and this guy wouldn't get any customers. My neighbor is suing the Sheriff's Office and every government entity in site for police brutality. It can happen anywhere. www.silvertoncolorado.com Earle "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:8f0c9$45ca0323$422afc51$20775@FUSE.NET... > Not all attorneys are the Shyster Spawn of Satan, there must be a few that > feel remorse at amassing wealth at the misfortune of others. > > > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message > news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > >I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a case > > like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is to > > > > |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
Actually, the attornies that I know are high functioning "developmentally
disabled" persons. All they know are Colorado Water Law and real estate, but they will try to tell you that they know everything. Of course, I live in Southwest Colorado, and what else is there? A retired lawyer wants to start an ACLU branch in Durango, and has lots of the locals upset. This will "increase the cost of government" and other balderdash. If people here didn't elect idiots, there would be no need for an ACLU branch and this guy wouldn't get any customers. My neighbor is suing the Sheriff's Office and every government entity in site for police brutality. It can happen anywhere. www.silvertoncolorado.com Earle "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:8f0c9$45ca0323$422afc51$20775@FUSE.NET... > Not all attorneys are the Shyster Spawn of Satan, there must be a few that > feel remorse at amassing wealth at the misfortune of others. > > > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message > news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > >I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a case > > like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is to > > > > |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
Actually, the attornies that I know are high functioning "developmentally
disabled" persons. All they know are Colorado Water Law and real estate, but they will try to tell you that they know everything. Of course, I live in Southwest Colorado, and what else is there? A retired lawyer wants to start an ACLU branch in Durango, and has lots of the locals upset. This will "increase the cost of government" and other balderdash. If people here didn't elect idiots, there would be no need for an ACLU branch and this guy wouldn't get any customers. My neighbor is suing the Sheriff's Office and every government entity in site for police brutality. It can happen anywhere. www.silvertoncolorado.com Earle "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:8f0c9$45ca0323$422afc51$20775@FUSE.NET... > Not all attorneys are the Shyster Spawn of Satan, there must be a few that > feel remorse at amassing wealth at the misfortune of others. > > > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message > news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > >I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a case > > like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is to > > > > |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
I have a former sister-in-law that plans to move there for the peaceful
life........ won't she be surprised... "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:aJGdnbMJnKm3k1fYnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > Actually, the attornies that I know are high functioning "developmentally > disabled" persons. All they know are Colorado Water Law and real estate, > but they will try to tell you that they know everything. Of course, I > live > in Southwest Colorado, and what else is there? A retired lawyer wants to > start an ACLU branch in Durango, and has lots of the locals upset. This > will "increase the cost of government" and other balderdash. If people > here > didn't elect idiots, there would be no need for an ACLU branch and this > guy > wouldn't get any customers. My neighbor is suing the Sheriff's Office and > every government entity in site for police brutality. It can happen > anywhere. > > www.silvertoncolorado.com > > Earle > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > news:8f0c9$45ca0323$422afc51$20775@FUSE.NET... >> Not all attorneys are the Shyster Spawn of Satan, there must be a few > that >> feel remorse at amassing wealth at the misfortune of others. >> >> >> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message >> news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >> >I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a >> >case >> > like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is > to >> > >> >> > > |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
I have a former sister-in-law that plans to move there for the peaceful
life........ won't she be surprised... "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:aJGdnbMJnKm3k1fYnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > Actually, the attornies that I know are high functioning "developmentally > disabled" persons. All they know are Colorado Water Law and real estate, > but they will try to tell you that they know everything. Of course, I > live > in Southwest Colorado, and what else is there? A retired lawyer wants to > start an ACLU branch in Durango, and has lots of the locals upset. This > will "increase the cost of government" and other balderdash. If people > here > didn't elect idiots, there would be no need for an ACLU branch and this > guy > wouldn't get any customers. My neighbor is suing the Sheriff's Office and > every government entity in site for police brutality. It can happen > anywhere. > > www.silvertoncolorado.com > > Earle > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > news:8f0c9$45ca0323$422afc51$20775@FUSE.NET... >> Not all attorneys are the Shyster Spawn of Satan, there must be a few > that >> feel remorse at amassing wealth at the misfortune of others. >> >> >> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message >> news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >> >I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a >> >case >> > like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is > to >> > >> >> > > |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
I have a former sister-in-law that plans to move there for the peaceful
life........ won't she be surprised... "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:aJGdnbMJnKm3k1fYnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > Actually, the attornies that I know are high functioning "developmentally > disabled" persons. All they know are Colorado Water Law and real estate, > but they will try to tell you that they know everything. Of course, I > live > in Southwest Colorado, and what else is there? A retired lawyer wants to > start an ACLU branch in Durango, and has lots of the locals upset. This > will "increase the cost of government" and other balderdash. If people > here > didn't elect idiots, there would be no need for an ACLU branch and this > guy > wouldn't get any customers. My neighbor is suing the Sheriff's Office and > every government entity in site for police brutality. It can happen > anywhere. > > www.silvertoncolorado.com > > Earle > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > news:8f0c9$45ca0323$422afc51$20775@FUSE.NET... >> Not all attorneys are the Shyster Spawn of Satan, there must be a few > that >> feel remorse at amassing wealth at the misfortune of others. >> >> >> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message >> news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >> >I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a >> >case >> > like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is > to >> > >> >> > > |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
I have a former sister-in-law that plans to move there for the peaceful
life........ won't she be surprised... "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:aJGdnbMJnKm3k1fYnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > Actually, the attornies that I know are high functioning "developmentally > disabled" persons. All they know are Colorado Water Law and real estate, > but they will try to tell you that they know everything. Of course, I > live > in Southwest Colorado, and what else is there? A retired lawyer wants to > start an ACLU branch in Durango, and has lots of the locals upset. This > will "increase the cost of government" and other balderdash. If people > here > didn't elect idiots, there would be no need for an ACLU branch and this > guy > wouldn't get any customers. My neighbor is suing the Sheriff's Office and > every government entity in site for police brutality. It can happen > anywhere. > > www.silvertoncolorado.com > > Earle > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > news:8f0c9$45ca0323$422afc51$20775@FUSE.NET... >> Not all attorneys are the Shyster Spawn of Satan, there must be a few > that >> feel remorse at amassing wealth at the misfortune of others. >> >> >> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message >> news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >> >I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a >> >case >> > like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is > to >> > >> >> > > |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
The neighbor had to get knee and shoulder surgery after being called in on a
bench warrant for failure to appear. I wasn't there but it sounds like he has a good case. You try to mind your own business but then some guy with bipolar disorder masquerading as a building inspector tries to get you arrested for putting up storm windows without a permit. I got him dismissed but it wasn't quick enough and the bastards didn't even apologize. Then they fired him from the library too. How much trouble can you get into working in a library in a place like Silverton? Now the train company wants to dump ashes here instead of only in Durango. I talked to them and it sounds like they want an "emergency repair depot for just in case" but who knows what they really have planned until after they build it? The same assholes that went after me for the storm windows claim they don't have any jurisdiction over the train company. Don't have any cojones is more like it. Sure is quiet at night though. Sometimes a coyote will come walking down Blair Street where I live at dusk, looking for stray cats I guess. The corgi we have isn't afraid of anything on the planet, except for that coyote. Can a coyote climb or jump a five foot chain link fence? If this woman has school age children, tell her not to do it unless she wants them growing up like Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel on the Simpsons. Earle "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:ef02b$45cab309$422afc51$18167@FUSE.NET... > I have a former sister-in-law that plans to move there for the peaceful > life........ won't she be surprised... > > > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message > news:aJGdnbMJnKm3k1fYnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > Actually, the attornies that I know are high functioning "developmentally > > disabled" persons. All they know are Colorado Water Law and real estate, > > but they will try to tell you that they know everything. Of course, I > > live > > in Southwest Colorado, and what else is there? A retired lawyer wants to > > start an ACLU branch in Durango, and has lots of the locals upset. This > > will "increase the cost of government" and other balderdash. If people > > here > > didn't elect idiots, there would be no need for an ACLU branch and this > > guy > > wouldn't get any customers. My neighbor is suing the Sheriff's Office and > > every government entity in site for police brutality. It can happen > > anywhere. > > > > www.silvertoncolorado.com > > > > Earle > > > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > > news:8f0c9$45ca0323$422afc51$20775@FUSE.NET... > >> Not all attorneys are the Shyster Spawn of Satan, there must be a few > > that > >> feel remorse at amassing wealth at the misfortune of others. > >> > >> > >> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message > >> news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > >> >I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a > >> >case > >> > like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is > > to > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
The neighbor had to get knee and shoulder surgery after being called in on a
bench warrant for failure to appear. I wasn't there but it sounds like he has a good case. You try to mind your own business but then some guy with bipolar disorder masquerading as a building inspector tries to get you arrested for putting up storm windows without a permit. I got him dismissed but it wasn't quick enough and the bastards didn't even apologize. Then they fired him from the library too. How much trouble can you get into working in a library in a place like Silverton? Now the train company wants to dump ashes here instead of only in Durango. I talked to them and it sounds like they want an "emergency repair depot for just in case" but who knows what they really have planned until after they build it? The same assholes that went after me for the storm windows claim they don't have any jurisdiction over the train company. Don't have any cojones is more like it. Sure is quiet at night though. Sometimes a coyote will come walking down Blair Street where I live at dusk, looking for stray cats I guess. The corgi we have isn't afraid of anything on the planet, except for that coyote. Can a coyote climb or jump a five foot chain link fence? If this woman has school age children, tell her not to do it unless she wants them growing up like Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel on the Simpsons. Earle "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:ef02b$45cab309$422afc51$18167@FUSE.NET... > I have a former sister-in-law that plans to move there for the peaceful > life........ won't she be surprised... > > > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message > news:aJGdnbMJnKm3k1fYnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > Actually, the attornies that I know are high functioning "developmentally > > disabled" persons. All they know are Colorado Water Law and real estate, > > but they will try to tell you that they know everything. Of course, I > > live > > in Southwest Colorado, and what else is there? A retired lawyer wants to > > start an ACLU branch in Durango, and has lots of the locals upset. This > > will "increase the cost of government" and other balderdash. If people > > here > > didn't elect idiots, there would be no need for an ACLU branch and this > > guy > > wouldn't get any customers. My neighbor is suing the Sheriff's Office and > > every government entity in site for police brutality. It can happen > > anywhere. > > > > www.silvertoncolorado.com > > > > Earle > > > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > > news:8f0c9$45ca0323$422afc51$20775@FUSE.NET... > >> Not all attorneys are the Shyster Spawn of Satan, there must be a few > > that > >> feel remorse at amassing wealth at the misfortune of others. > >> > >> > >> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message > >> news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > >> >I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a > >> >case > >> > like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is > > to > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
The neighbor had to get knee and shoulder surgery after being called in on a
bench warrant for failure to appear. I wasn't there but it sounds like he has a good case. You try to mind your own business but then some guy with bipolar disorder masquerading as a building inspector tries to get you arrested for putting up storm windows without a permit. I got him dismissed but it wasn't quick enough and the bastards didn't even apologize. Then they fired him from the library too. How much trouble can you get into working in a library in a place like Silverton? Now the train company wants to dump ashes here instead of only in Durango. I talked to them and it sounds like they want an "emergency repair depot for just in case" but who knows what they really have planned until after they build it? The same assholes that went after me for the storm windows claim they don't have any jurisdiction over the train company. Don't have any cojones is more like it. Sure is quiet at night though. Sometimes a coyote will come walking down Blair Street where I live at dusk, looking for stray cats I guess. The corgi we have isn't afraid of anything on the planet, except for that coyote. Can a coyote climb or jump a five foot chain link fence? If this woman has school age children, tell her not to do it unless she wants them growing up like Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel on the Simpsons. Earle "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:ef02b$45cab309$422afc51$18167@FUSE.NET... > I have a former sister-in-law that plans to move there for the peaceful > life........ won't she be surprised... > > > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message > news:aJGdnbMJnKm3k1fYnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > Actually, the attornies that I know are high functioning "developmentally > > disabled" persons. All they know are Colorado Water Law and real estate, > > but they will try to tell you that they know everything. Of course, I > > live > > in Southwest Colorado, and what else is there? A retired lawyer wants to > > start an ACLU branch in Durango, and has lots of the locals upset. This > > will "increase the cost of government" and other balderdash. If people > > here > > didn't elect idiots, there would be no need for an ACLU branch and this > > guy > > wouldn't get any customers. My neighbor is suing the Sheriff's Office and > > every government entity in site for police brutality. It can happen > > anywhere. > > > > www.silvertoncolorado.com > > > > Earle > > > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > > news:8f0c9$45ca0323$422afc51$20775@FUSE.NET... > >> Not all attorneys are the Shyster Spawn of Satan, there must be a few > > that > >> feel remorse at amassing wealth at the misfortune of others. > >> > >> > >> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message > >> news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > >> >I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a > >> >case > >> > like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is > > to > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
The neighbor had to get knee and shoulder surgery after being called in on a
bench warrant for failure to appear. I wasn't there but it sounds like he has a good case. You try to mind your own business but then some guy with bipolar disorder masquerading as a building inspector tries to get you arrested for putting up storm windows without a permit. I got him dismissed but it wasn't quick enough and the bastards didn't even apologize. Then they fired him from the library too. How much trouble can you get into working in a library in a place like Silverton? Now the train company wants to dump ashes here instead of only in Durango. I talked to them and it sounds like they want an "emergency repair depot for just in case" but who knows what they really have planned until after they build it? The same assholes that went after me for the storm windows claim they don't have any jurisdiction over the train company. Don't have any cojones is more like it. Sure is quiet at night though. Sometimes a coyote will come walking down Blair Street where I live at dusk, looking for stray cats I guess. The corgi we have isn't afraid of anything on the planet, except for that coyote. Can a coyote climb or jump a five foot chain link fence? If this woman has school age children, tell her not to do it unless she wants them growing up like Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel on the Simpsons. Earle "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:ef02b$45cab309$422afc51$18167@FUSE.NET... > I have a former sister-in-law that plans to move there for the peaceful > life........ won't she be surprised... > > > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message > news:aJGdnbMJnKm3k1fYnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > Actually, the attornies that I know are high functioning "developmentally > > disabled" persons. All they know are Colorado Water Law and real estate, > > but they will try to tell you that they know everything. Of course, I > > live > > in Southwest Colorado, and what else is there? A retired lawyer wants to > > start an ACLU branch in Durango, and has lots of the locals upset. This > > will "increase the cost of government" and other balderdash. If people > > here > > didn't elect idiots, there would be no need for an ACLU branch and this > > guy > > wouldn't get any customers. My neighbor is suing the Sheriff's Office and > > every government entity in site for police brutality. It can happen > > anywhere. > > > > www.silvertoncolorado.com > > > > Earle > > > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > > news:8f0c9$45ca0323$422afc51$20775@FUSE.NET... > >> Not all attorneys are the Shyster Spawn of Satan, there must be a few > > that > >> feel remorse at amassing wealth at the misfortune of others. > >> > >> > >> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message > >> news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > >> >I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a > >> >case > >> > like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is > > to > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
Hi Earle,
A coyote climbed my six foot wooden fence: http://www.----------.com/temp/larBre02.jpg to do over two thousand dollars worth of damage to my Mother's dog that I is in my care: http://www.----------.com/temp/katie1702.jpg God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:9ZKdnULWzc7QIFfYnZ2dnUVZ_veinZ2d@comcast.com. .. > The neighbor had to get knee and shoulder surgery after being called in on a > bench warrant for failure to appear. I wasn't there but it sounds like he > has a good case. You try to mind your own business but then some guy with > bipolar disorder masquerading as a building inspector tries to get you > arrested for putting up storm windows without a permit. I got him dismissed > but it wasn't quick enough and the bastards didn't even apologize. Then > they fired him from the library too. How much trouble can you get into > working in a library in a place like Silverton? Now the train company wants > to dump ashes here instead of only in Durango. I talked to them and it > sounds like they want an "emergency repair depot for just in case" but who > knows what they really have planned until after they build it? The same > assholes that went after me for the storm windows claim they don't have any > jurisdiction over the train company. Don't have any cojones is more like > it. Sure is quiet at night though. Sometimes a coyote will come walking > down Blair Street where I live at dusk, looking for stray cats I guess. The > corgi we have isn't afraid of anything on the planet, except for that > coyote. Can a coyote climb or jump a five foot chain link fence? > > If this woman has school age children, tell her not to do it unless she > wants them growing up like Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel on the Simpsons. > > Earle |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
Hi Earle,
A coyote climbed my six foot wooden fence: http://www.----------.com/temp/larBre02.jpg to do over two thousand dollars worth of damage to my Mother's dog that I is in my care: http://www.----------.com/temp/katie1702.jpg God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:9ZKdnULWzc7QIFfYnZ2dnUVZ_veinZ2d@comcast.com. .. > The neighbor had to get knee and shoulder surgery after being called in on a > bench warrant for failure to appear. I wasn't there but it sounds like he > has a good case. You try to mind your own business but then some guy with > bipolar disorder masquerading as a building inspector tries to get you > arrested for putting up storm windows without a permit. I got him dismissed > but it wasn't quick enough and the bastards didn't even apologize. Then > they fired him from the library too. How much trouble can you get into > working in a library in a place like Silverton? Now the train company wants > to dump ashes here instead of only in Durango. I talked to them and it > sounds like they want an "emergency repair depot for just in case" but who > knows what they really have planned until after they build it? The same > assholes that went after me for the storm windows claim they don't have any > jurisdiction over the train company. Don't have any cojones is more like > it. Sure is quiet at night though. Sometimes a coyote will come walking > down Blair Street where I live at dusk, looking for stray cats I guess. The > corgi we have isn't afraid of anything on the planet, except for that > coyote. Can a coyote climb or jump a five foot chain link fence? > > If this woman has school age children, tell her not to do it unless she > wants them growing up like Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel on the Simpsons. > > Earle |
Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary
Hi Earle,
A coyote climbed my six foot wooden fence: http://www.----------.com/temp/larBre02.jpg to do over two thousand dollars worth of damage to my Mother's dog that I is in my care: http://www.----------.com/temp/katie1702.jpg God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:9ZKdnULWzc7QIFfYnZ2dnUVZ_veinZ2d@comcast.com. .. > The neighbor had to get knee and shoulder surgery after being called in on a > bench warrant for failure to appear. I wasn't there but it sounds like he > has a good case. You try to mind your own business but then some guy with > bipolar disorder masquerading as a building inspector tries to get you > arrested for putting up storm windows without a permit. I got him dismissed > but it wasn't quick enough and the bastards didn't even apologize. Then > they fired him from the library too. How much trouble can you get into > working in a library in a place like Silverton? Now the train company wants > to dump ashes here instead of only in Durango. I talked to them and it > sounds like they want an "emergency repair depot for just in case" but who > knows what they really have planned until after they build it? The same > assholes that went after me for the storm windows claim they don't have any > jurisdiction over the train company. Don't have any cojones is more like > it. Sure is quiet at night though. Sometimes a coyote will come walking > down Blair Street where I live at dusk, looking for stray cats I guess. The > corgi we have isn't afraid of anything on the planet, except for that > coyote. Can a coyote climb or jump a five foot chain link fence? > > If this woman has school age children, tell her not to do it unless she > wants them growing up like Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel on the Simpsons. > > Earle |
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