I looked at them. seems like those are ok.

So does that mean it is either the axle itself ? or the hub ?

Ron


Mike Romain wrote:
> Yes, if you cut your wheels to the side you can see the joints.
>
> Mike
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
>>Hi Mike,
>>
>>I would be able to see the u-joint by looking next to the wheel without
>>having to take "everything" apart and see if the u-joint has snapped ?
>>
>>Ron
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>>I would be inspecting the axle out there closely. You could be
>>>describing a snapped u-joint.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hello,
>>>>
>>>>I have a 93 JGC (5 speed manual, commandtrac transfer case).
>>>>
>>>>A winshieldwiper came loose and I had to stop in a ditch. i put the car
>>>>in 4wd and got out of the ditch, but I heard a slight 'snap" thought it
>>>>was the front wheel (paasenger side) throwing a rock.
>>>>
>>>>When I wa on the road agin, I hear a grinding sound, like your your
>>>>grinding gears in an old pickup truck at low rpms.
>>>>
>>>>When I put the JGC in 4wd the grinding sound goes away and it seems that
>>>>everything is ok. However it is not in 4wd it seems.
>>>>
>>>>Does that mean that the hub on the passenger side is broken ?
>>>>Is that easy to fix ? (are the parts expensive ??)
>>>>
>>>>I know that I might be kinda vague, just trying to find out if it is
>>>>relatively easy to fix and if it is worth the troble (it is a 93 with
>>>>215k mles)
>>>>
>>>>other then that the car drives ok.
>>>>
>>>>Ron

 

thanks for the reply.

well.. when I put the transfercase in 4hi, the grinding sound goes
away (but no 4wd) when in 2Hi, the grining sound happens.

Ron


Earle Horton wrote:

> This model sports a vacuum motor disconnect for the front passenger side
> axle. The motor or the splined sleeve could have been damaged during your
> trip through the ditch. The u-joint is visible from the outside.
>
> Earle
>
> "Ron Croonenberg" <ronc@depauw.edu> wrote in message
> news:dbir12$o2s$1@news.csc.depauw.edu...
>
>>Hi Mike,
>>
>>I would be able to see the u-joint by looking next to the wheel without
>>having to take "everything" apart and see if the u-joint has snapped ?
>>
>>Ron
>>
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>>I would be inspecting the axle out there closely. You could be
>>>describing a snapped u-joint.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hello,
>>>>
>>>>I have a 93 JGC (5 speed manual, commandtrac transfer case).
>>>>
>>>>A winshieldwiper came loose and I had to stop in a ditch. i put the car
>>>>in 4wd and got out of the ditch, but I heard a slight 'snap" thought it
>>>>was the front wheel (paasenger side) throwing a rock.
>>>>
>>>>When I wa on the road agin, I hear a grinding sound, like your your
>>>>grinding gears in an old pickup truck at low rpms.
>>>>
>>>>When I put the JGC in 4wd the grinding sound goes away and it seems that
>>>>everything is ok. However it is not in 4wd it seems.
>>>>
>>>>Does that mean that the hub on the passenger side is broken ?
>>>>Is that easy to fix ? (are the parts expensive ??)
>>>>
>>>>I know that I might be kinda vague, just trying to find out if it is
>>>>relatively easy to fix and if it is worth the troble (it is a 93 with
>>>>215k mles)
>>>>
>>>>other then that the car drives ok.
>>>>
>>>>Ron
>
>
>

 

thanks for the reply.

well.. when I put the transfercase in 4hi, the grinding sound goes
away (but no 4wd) when in 2Hi, the grining sound happens.

Ron


Earle Horton wrote:

> This model sports a vacuum motor disconnect for the front passenger side
> axle. The motor or the splined sleeve could have been damaged during your
> trip through the ditch. The u-joint is visible from the outside.
>
> Earle
>
> "Ron Croonenberg" <ronc@depauw.edu> wrote in message
> news:dbir12$o2s$1@news.csc.depauw.edu...
>
>>Hi Mike,
>>
>>I would be able to see the u-joint by looking next to the wheel without
>>having to take "everything" apart and see if the u-joint has snapped ?
>>
>>Ron
>>
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>>I would be inspecting the axle out there closely. You could be
>>>describing a snapped u-joint.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hello,
>>>>
>>>>I have a 93 JGC (5 speed manual, commandtrac transfer case).
>>>>
>>>>A winshieldwiper came loose and I had to stop in a ditch. i put the car
>>>>in 4wd and got out of the ditch, but I heard a slight 'snap" thought it
>>>>was the front wheel (paasenger side) throwing a rock.
>>>>
>>>>When I wa on the road agin, I hear a grinding sound, like your your
>>>>grinding gears in an old pickup truck at low rpms.
>>>>
>>>>When I put the JGC in 4wd the grinding sound goes away and it seems that
>>>>everything is ok. However it is not in 4wd it seems.
>>>>
>>>>Does that mean that the hub on the passenger side is broken ?
>>>>Is that easy to fix ? (are the parts expensive ??)
>>>>
>>>>I know that I might be kinda vague, just trying to find out if it is
>>>>relatively easy to fix and if it is worth the troble (it is a 93 with
>>>>215k mles)
>>>>
>>>>other then that the car drives ok.
>>>>
>>>>Ron
>
>
>

 

thanks for the reply.

well.. when I put the transfercase in 4hi, the grinding sound goes
away (but no 4wd) when in 2Hi, the grining sound happens.

Ron


Earle Horton wrote:

> This model sports a vacuum motor disconnect for the front passenger side
> axle. The motor or the splined sleeve could have been damaged during your
> trip through the ditch. The u-joint is visible from the outside.
>
> Earle
>
> "Ron Croonenberg" <ronc@depauw.edu> wrote in message
> news:dbir12$o2s$1@news.csc.depauw.edu...
>
>>Hi Mike,
>>
>>I would be able to see the u-joint by looking next to the wheel without
>>having to take "everything" apart and see if the u-joint has snapped ?
>>
>>Ron
>>
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>>I would be inspecting the axle out there closely. You could be
>>>describing a snapped u-joint.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hello,
>>>>
>>>>I have a 93 JGC (5 speed manual, commandtrac transfer case).
>>>>
>>>>A winshieldwiper came loose and I had to stop in a ditch. i put the car
>>>>in 4wd and got out of the ditch, but I heard a slight 'snap" thought it
>>>>was the front wheel (paasenger side) throwing a rock.
>>>>
>>>>When I wa on the road agin, I hear a grinding sound, like your your
>>>>grinding gears in an old pickup truck at low rpms.
>>>>
>>>>When I put the JGC in 4wd the grinding sound goes away and it seems that
>>>>everything is ok. However it is not in 4wd it seems.
>>>>
>>>>Does that mean that the hub on the passenger side is broken ?
>>>>Is that easy to fix ? (are the parts expensive ??)
>>>>
>>>>I know that I might be kinda vague, just trying to find out if it is
>>>>relatively easy to fix and if it is worth the troble (it is a 93 with
>>>>215k mles)
>>>>
>>>>other then that the car drives ok.
>>>>
>>>>Ron
>
>
>

 

thanks for the reply.

well.. when I put the transfercase in 4hi, the grinding sound goes
away (but no 4wd) when in 2Hi, the grining sound happens.

Ron


Earle Horton wrote:

> This model sports a vacuum motor disconnect for the front passenger side
> axle. The motor or the splined sleeve could have been damaged during your
> trip through the ditch. The u-joint is visible from the outside.
>
> Earle
>
> "Ron Croonenberg" <ronc@depauw.edu> wrote in message
> news:dbir12$o2s$1@news.csc.depauw.edu...
>
>>Hi Mike,
>>
>>I would be able to see the u-joint by looking next to the wheel without
>>having to take "everything" apart and see if the u-joint has snapped ?
>>
>>Ron
>>
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>>I would be inspecting the axle out there closely. You could be
>>>describing a snapped u-joint.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hello,
>>>>
>>>>I have a 93 JGC (5 speed manual, commandtrac transfer case).
>>>>
>>>>A winshieldwiper came loose and I had to stop in a ditch. i put the car
>>>>in 4wd and got out of the ditch, but I heard a slight 'snap" thought it
>>>>was the front wheel (paasenger side) throwing a rock.
>>>>
>>>>When I wa on the road agin, I hear a grinding sound, like your your
>>>>grinding gears in an old pickup truck at low rpms.
>>>>
>>>>When I put the JGC in 4wd the grinding sound goes away and it seems that
>>>>everything is ok. However it is not in 4wd it seems.
>>>>
>>>>Does that mean that the hub on the passenger side is broken ?
>>>>Is that easy to fix ? (are the parts expensive ??)
>>>>
>>>>I know that I might be kinda vague, just trying to find out if it is
>>>>relatively easy to fix and if it is worth the troble (it is a 93 with
>>>>215k mles)
>>>>
>>>>other then that the car drives ok.
>>>>
>>>>Ron
>
>
>

 

You are still describing something blown. Do you have a vacuum
disconnect on the front axle? If yes, I would be looking there, then I
would be looking at the driveshaft itself for something blown.

Mike

Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> I looked at them. seems like those are ok.
>
> So does that mean it is either the axle itself ? or the hub ?
>
> Ron
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Yes, if you cut your wheels to the side you can see the joints.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >
> >>Hi Mike,
> >>
> >>I would be able to see the u-joint by looking next to the wheel without
> >>having to take "everything" apart and see if the u-joint has snapped ?
> >>
> >>Ron
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>>I would be inspecting the axle out there closely. You could be
> >>>describing a snapped u-joint.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>
> >>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Hello,
> >>>>
> >>>>I have a 93 JGC (5 speed manual, commandtrac transfer case).
> >>>>
> >>>>A winshieldwiper came loose and I had to stop in a ditch. i put the car
> >>>>in 4wd and got out of the ditch, but I heard a slight 'snap" thought it
> >>>>was the front wheel (paasenger side) throwing a rock.
> >>>>
> >>>>When I wa on the road agin, I hear a grinding sound, like your your
> >>>>grinding gears in an old pickup truck at low rpms.
> >>>>
> >>>>When I put the JGC in 4wd the grinding sound goes away and it seems that
> >>>>everything is ok. However it is not in 4wd it seems.
> >>>>
> >>>>Does that mean that the hub on the passenger side is broken ?
> >>>>Is that easy to fix ? (are the parts expensive ??)
> >>>>
> >>>>I know that I might be kinda vague, just trying to find out if it is
> >>>>relatively easy to fix and if it is worth the troble (it is a 93 with
> >>>>215k mles)
> >>>>
> >>>>other then that the car drives ok.
> >>>>
> >>>>Ron

 

You are still describing something blown. Do you have a vacuum
disconnect on the front axle? If yes, I would be looking there, then I
would be looking at the driveshaft itself for something blown.

Mike

Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> I looked at them. seems like those are ok.
>
> So does that mean it is either the axle itself ? or the hub ?
>
> Ron
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Yes, if you cut your wheels to the side you can see the joints.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >
> >>Hi Mike,
> >>
> >>I would be able to see the u-joint by looking next to the wheel without
> >>having to take "everything" apart and see if the u-joint has snapped ?
> >>
> >>Ron
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>>I would be inspecting the axle out there closely. You could be
> >>>describing a snapped u-joint.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>
> >>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Hello,
> >>>>
> >>>>I have a 93 JGC (5 speed manual, commandtrac transfer case).
> >>>>
> >>>>A winshieldwiper came loose and I had to stop in a ditch. i put the car
> >>>>in 4wd and got out of the ditch, but I heard a slight 'snap" thought it
> >>>>was the front wheel (paasenger side) throwing a rock.
> >>>>
> >>>>When I wa on the road agin, I hear a grinding sound, like your your
> >>>>grinding gears in an old pickup truck at low rpms.
> >>>>
> >>>>When I put the JGC in 4wd the grinding sound goes away and it seems that
> >>>>everything is ok. However it is not in 4wd it seems.
> >>>>
> >>>>Does that mean that the hub on the passenger side is broken ?
> >>>>Is that easy to fix ? (are the parts expensive ??)
> >>>>
> >>>>I know that I might be kinda vague, just trying to find out if it is
> >>>>relatively easy to fix and if it is worth the troble (it is a 93 with
> >>>>215k mles)
> >>>>
> >>>>other then that the car drives ok.
> >>>>
> >>>>Ron

 

You are still describing something blown. Do you have a vacuum
disconnect on the front axle? If yes, I would be looking there, then I
would be looking at the driveshaft itself for something blown.

Mike

Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> I looked at them. seems like those are ok.
>
> So does that mean it is either the axle itself ? or the hub ?
>
> Ron
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Yes, if you cut your wheels to the side you can see the joints.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >
> >>Hi Mike,
> >>
> >>I would be able to see the u-joint by looking next to the wheel without
> >>having to take "everything" apart and see if the u-joint has snapped ?
> >>
> >>Ron
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>>I would be inspecting the axle out there closely. You could be
> >>>describing a snapped u-joint.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>
> >>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Hello,
> >>>>
> >>>>I have a 93 JGC (5 speed manual, commandtrac transfer case).
> >>>>
> >>>>A winshieldwiper came loose and I had to stop in a ditch. i put the car
> >>>>in 4wd and got out of the ditch, but I heard a slight 'snap" thought it
> >>>>was the front wheel (paasenger side) throwing a rock.
> >>>>
> >>>>When I wa on the road agin, I hear a grinding sound, like your your
> >>>>grinding gears in an old pickup truck at low rpms.
> >>>>
> >>>>When I put the JGC in 4wd the grinding sound goes away and it seems that
> >>>>everything is ok. However it is not in 4wd it seems.
> >>>>
> >>>>Does that mean that the hub on the passenger side is broken ?
> >>>>Is that easy to fix ? (are the parts expensive ??)
> >>>>
> >>>>I know that I might be kinda vague, just trying to find out if it is
> >>>>relatively easy to fix and if it is worth the troble (it is a 93 with
> >>>>215k mles)
> >>>>
> >>>>other then that the car drives ok.
> >>>>
> >>>>Ron

 

You are still describing something blown. Do you have a vacuum
disconnect on the front axle? If yes, I would be looking there, then I
would be looking at the driveshaft itself for something blown.

Mike

Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> I looked at them. seems like those are ok.
>
> So does that mean it is either the axle itself ? or the hub ?
>
> Ron
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Yes, if you cut your wheels to the side you can see the joints.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >
> >>Hi Mike,
> >>
> >>I would be able to see the u-joint by looking next to the wheel without
> >>having to take "everything" apart and see if the u-joint has snapped ?
> >>
> >>Ron
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>>I would be inspecting the axle out there closely. You could be
> >>>describing a snapped u-joint.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>
> >>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Hello,
> >>>>
> >>>>I have a 93 JGC (5 speed manual, commandtrac transfer case).
> >>>>
> >>>>A winshieldwiper came loose and I had to stop in a ditch. i put the car
> >>>>in 4wd and got out of the ditch, but I heard a slight 'snap" thought it
> >>>>was the front wheel (paasenger side) throwing a rock.
> >>>>
> >>>>When I wa on the road agin, I hear a grinding sound, like your your
> >>>>grinding gears in an old pickup truck at low rpms.
> >>>>
> >>>>When I put the JGC in 4wd the grinding sound goes away and it seems that
> >>>>everything is ok. However it is not in 4wd it seems.
> >>>>
> >>>>Does that mean that the hub on the passenger side is broken ?
> >>>>Is that easy to fix ? (are the parts expensive ??)
> >>>>
> >>>>I know that I might be kinda vague, just trying to find out if it is
> >>>>relatively easy to fix and if it is worth the troble (it is a 93 with
> >>>>215k mles)
> >>>>
> >>>>other then that the car drives ok.
> >>>>
> >>>>Ron

 

Ok, I took the whole thing apart.

On the driver side, the splines in the inside yoke are sripped (and the
splines on the shaft are damaged). (That's where the grinding noise and
"flapping sounds" came from I guess) So it looks like I need the
complete assembly shaft U-joint etc.

I looked around in parts stores, but they seem to carry the CV joint
style axle assembly's only.

Any idea where I might find one ? (used/salvaged one is ok too).
(The dealer wants an arm, a leg and my first born child for that one)

The cv-shaft ones cost approx $100 in partstores and they don't carry
the U-joint ones. The dealer has the axle assembly for $600

any tips and pointers are appreciated,

Ron






Mike Romain wrote:
> You are still describing something blown. Do you have a vacuum
> disconnect on the front axle? If yes, I would be looking there, then I
> would be looking at the driveshaft itself for something blown.
>
> Mike
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
>>I looked at them. seems like those are ok.
>>
>>So does that mean it is either the axle itself ? or the hub ?
>>
>>Ron
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>>Yes, if you cut your wheels to the side you can see the joints.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi Mike,
>>>>
>>>>I would be able to see the u-joint by looking next to the wheel without
>>>>having to take "everything" apart and see if the u-joint has snapped ?
>>>>
>>>>Ron
>>>>
>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I would be inspecting the axle out there closely. You could be
>>>>>describing a snapped u-joint.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike
>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>
>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have a 93 JGC (5 speed manual, commandtrac transfer case).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>A winshieldwiper came loose and I had to stop in a ditch. i put the car
>>>>>>in 4wd and got out of the ditch, but I heard a slight 'snap" thought it
>>>>>>was the front wheel (paasenger side) throwing a rock.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>When I wa on the road agin, I hear a grinding sound, like your your
>>>>>>grinding gears in an old pickup truck at low rpms.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>When I put the JGC in 4wd the grinding sound goes away and it seems that
>>>>>>everything is ok. However it is not in 4wd it seems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Does that mean that the hub on the passenger side is broken ?
>>>>>>Is that easy to fix ? (are the parts expensive ??)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I know that I might be kinda vague, just trying to find out if it is
>>>>>>relatively easy to fix and if it is worth the troble (it is a 93 with
>>>>>>215k mles)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>other then that the car drives ok.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ron