Re: 93 Jeep Wrangler - 57K miles - fails CA smog
 

If they really did replace your catalytic converter last time, then the EGR,
if you have one in that vehicle, is indeed a likely suspect.

Earle

<kaigoneq@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1169335152.479033.120370@a75g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...

I only went to the test-only station. The tech there said the other
repair shop did not repair anything that would fix this except a new
cat will normally get this to pass.

I've applied for the CA assitance for test-only vehicles. So I have to
wait to take it in.

I've been reading online and it very well could be my EGR valve is
stuck or broken.

Jim.

The Merg wrote:
> Even though the standard schedule for maintenance applies to mileage, it
> really should be viewed as a mileage or time period, whichever comes
first.
> What did they tell you to fix when it failed this time? Same things?
>
> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> > About 2000. It really is a third car.
> >
> > Jim.
> >
> >
> > The Merg wrote:
> >> Only 57k total on a '93? Wow. How many of those miles are in the last
> >> two years?
> >>
> >> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>> My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
> >>>
> >>> Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the
max
> >>> is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
> >>> new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
> >>> failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
> >>> it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
> >>> two years.
> >>>
> >>> How do I get the NO down?
> >>> I did not:
> >>> change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
> >>> run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
> >>> the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
> >>>
> >>> I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to send me
> >>> to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
> >>> taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for any help.
> >>>
> >>> Jim.
> >>>
> >> --
> >> ÐÏࡱá
> >
>
> --
> ÐÏࡱá

Re: 93 Jeep Wrangler - 57K miles - fails CA smog
 

Just so you know, the warranty on a replacement catalytic converter is 5
years, 50,000 miles. It used to be mandated by Federal Law. Don't know if it
still is, but maybe you can use that if you need it.

Spdloader



<kaigoneq@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1169335152.479033.120370@a75g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...

I only went to the test-only station. The tech there said the other
repair shop did not repair anything that would fix this except a new
cat will normally get this to pass.

I've applied for the CA assitance for test-only vehicles. So I have to
wait to take it in.

I've been reading online and it very well could be my EGR valve is
stuck or broken.

Jim.

The Merg wrote:
> Even though the standard schedule for maintenance applies to mileage, it
> really should be viewed as a mileage or time period, whichever comes
> first.
> What did they tell you to fix when it failed this time? Same things?
>
> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> > About 2000. It really is a third car.
> >
> > Jim.
> >
> >
> > The Merg wrote:
> >> Only 57k total on a '93? Wow. How many of those miles are in the last
> >> two years?
> >>
> >> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>> My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
> >>>
> >>> Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the
> >>> max
> >>> is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
> >>> new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
> >>> failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
> >>> it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
> >>> two years.
> >>>
> >>> How do I get the NO down?
> >>> I did not:
> >>> change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
> >>> run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
> >>> the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
> >>>
> >>> I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to send me
> >>> to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
> >>> taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for any help.
> >>>
> >>> Jim.
> >>>
> >> --
> >> ÐÏࡱá
> >
>
> --
> ÐÏࡱá

Re: 93 Jeep Wrangler - 57K miles - fails CA smog
 

Just so you know, the warranty on a replacement catalytic converter is 5
years, 50,000 miles. It used to be mandated by Federal Law. Don't know if it
still is, but maybe you can use that if you need it.

Spdloader



<kaigoneq@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1169335152.479033.120370@a75g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...

I only went to the test-only station. The tech there said the other
repair shop did not repair anything that would fix this except a new
cat will normally get this to pass.

I've applied for the CA assitance for test-only vehicles. So I have to
wait to take it in.

I've been reading online and it very well could be my EGR valve is
stuck or broken.

Jim.

The Merg wrote:
> Even though the standard schedule for maintenance applies to mileage, it
> really should be viewed as a mileage or time period, whichever comes
> first.
> What did they tell you to fix when it failed this time? Same things?
>
> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> > About 2000. It really is a third car.
> >
> > Jim.
> >
> >
> > The Merg wrote:
> >> Only 57k total on a '93? Wow. How many of those miles are in the last
> >> two years?
> >>
> >> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>> My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
> >>>
> >>> Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the
> >>> max
> >>> is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
> >>> new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
> >>> failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
> >>> it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
> >>> two years.
> >>>
> >>> How do I get the NO down?
> >>> I did not:
> >>> change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
> >>> run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
> >>> the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
> >>>
> >>> I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to send me
> >>> to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
> >>> taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for any help.
> >>>
> >>> Jim.
> >>>
> >> --
> >> ÐÏࡱá
> >
>
> --
> ÐÏࡱá

Re: 93 Jeep Wrangler - 57K miles - fails CA smog
 

Just so you know, the warranty on a replacement catalytic converter is 5
years, 50,000 miles. It used to be mandated by Federal Law. Don't know if it
still is, but maybe you can use that if you need it.

Spdloader



<kaigoneq@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1169335152.479033.120370@a75g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...

I only went to the test-only station. The tech there said the other
repair shop did not repair anything that would fix this except a new
cat will normally get this to pass.

I've applied for the CA assitance for test-only vehicles. So I have to
wait to take it in.

I've been reading online and it very well could be my EGR valve is
stuck or broken.

Jim.

The Merg wrote:
> Even though the standard schedule for maintenance applies to mileage, it
> really should be viewed as a mileage or time period, whichever comes
> first.
> What did they tell you to fix when it failed this time? Same things?
>
> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> > About 2000. It really is a third car.
> >
> > Jim.
> >
> >
> > The Merg wrote:
> >> Only 57k total on a '93? Wow. How many of those miles are in the last
> >> two years?
> >>
> >> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>> My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
> >>>
> >>> Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the
> >>> max
> >>> is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
> >>> new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
> >>> failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
> >>> it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
> >>> two years.
> >>>
> >>> How do I get the NO down?
> >>> I did not:
> >>> change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
> >>> run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
> >>> the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
> >>>
> >>> I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to send me
> >>> to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
> >>> taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for any help.
> >>>
> >>> Jim.
> >>>
> >> --
> >> ÐÏࡱá
> >
>
> --
> ÐÏࡱá

Re: 93 Jeep Wrangler - 57K miles - fails CA smog
 

Just so you know, the warranty on a replacement catalytic converter is 5
years, 50,000 miles. It used to be mandated by Federal Law. Don't know if it
still is, but maybe you can use that if you need it.

Spdloader



<kaigoneq@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1169335152.479033.120370@a75g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...

I only went to the test-only station. The tech there said the other
repair shop did not repair anything that would fix this except a new
cat will normally get this to pass.

I've applied for the CA assitance for test-only vehicles. So I have to
wait to take it in.

I've been reading online and it very well could be my EGR valve is
stuck or broken.

Jim.

The Merg wrote:
> Even though the standard schedule for maintenance applies to mileage, it
> really should be viewed as a mileage or time period, whichever comes
> first.
> What did they tell you to fix when it failed this time? Same things?
>
> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> > About 2000. It really is a third car.
> >
> > Jim.
> >
> >
> > The Merg wrote:
> >> Only 57k total on a '93? Wow. How many of those miles are in the last
> >> two years?
> >>
> >> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>> My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
> >>>
> >>> Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the
> >>> max
> >>> is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
> >>> new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
> >>> failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
> >>> it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
> >>> two years.
> >>>
> >>> How do I get the NO down?
> >>> I did not:
> >>> change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
> >>> run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
> >>> the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
> >>>
> >>> I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to send me
> >>> to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
> >>> taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for any help.
> >>>
> >>> Jim.
> >>>
> >> --
> >> ÐÏࡱá
> >
>
> --
> ÐÏࡱá

Re: 93 Jeep Wrangler - 57K miles - fails CA smog
 

Jim,

Excess NOx is a sign of too much heat during combustion process (well,
for emissions purposes anyway). I don't know how picky your local test
only shop is, but retarding your timing a few degrees is the easiest
and fastest way to get around that problem. It's worked for me for
years in other states running the same smog test. Hm, for that matter,
make sure your timing is set properly to begin with.

I agree with Earle, a failing EGR system will fail your NOx too. On a
14 year old vehicle with as little mileage as you have on it, I'd
carefully check the passages for obstruction.

Assuming the cat's numbers were the same before and after replacment,
it's doing its job to the best of its ability, so take that out of the
equation.

Jon


Earle Horton wrote:
> If they really did replace your catalytic converter last time, then the EGR,
> if you have one in that vehicle, is indeed a likely suspect.
>
> Earle
>
> <kaigoneq@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1169335152.479033.120370@a75g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>
> I only went to the test-only station. The tech there said the other
> repair shop did not repair anything that would fix this except a new
> cat will normally get this to pass.
>
> I've applied for the CA assitance for test-only vehicles. So I have to
> wait to take it in.
>
> I've been reading online and it very well could be my EGR valve is
> stuck or broken.
>
> Jim.
>
> The Merg wrote:
> > Even though the standard schedule for maintenance applies to mileage, it
> > really should be viewed as a mileage or time period, whichever comes
> first.
> > What did they tell you to fix when it failed this time? Same things?
> >
> > kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > About 2000. It really is a third car.
> > >
> > > Jim.
> > >
> > >
> > > The Merg wrote:
> > >> Only 57k total on a '93? Wow. How many of those miles are in the last
> > >> two years?
> > >>
> > >> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >>> My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
> > >>>
> > >>> Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the
> max
> > >>> is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
> > >>> new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
> > >>> failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
> > >>> it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
> > >>> two years.
> > >>>
> > >>> How do I get the NO down?
> > >>> I did not:
> > >>> change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
> > >>> run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
> > >>> the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
> > >>>
> > >>> I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to sendme
> > >>> to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
> > >>> taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks for any help.
> > >>>
> > >>> Jim.
> > >>>
> > >> --
> > >> ÐÏࡱá
> > >
> >
> > --
> > ÐÏࡱá

Re: 93 Jeep Wrangler - 57K miles - fails CA smog
 

Jim,

Excess NOx is a sign of too much heat during combustion process (well,
for emissions purposes anyway). I don't know how picky your local test
only shop is, but retarding your timing a few degrees is the easiest
and fastest way to get around that problem. It's worked for me for
years in other states running the same smog test. Hm, for that matter,
make sure your timing is set properly to begin with.

I agree with Earle, a failing EGR system will fail your NOx too. On a
14 year old vehicle with as little mileage as you have on it, I'd
carefully check the passages for obstruction.

Assuming the cat's numbers were the same before and after replacment,
it's doing its job to the best of its ability, so take that out of the
equation.

Jon


Earle Horton wrote:
> If they really did replace your catalytic converter last time, then the EGR,
> if you have one in that vehicle, is indeed a likely suspect.
>
> Earle
>
> <kaigoneq@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1169335152.479033.120370@a75g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>
> I only went to the test-only station. The tech there said the other
> repair shop did not repair anything that would fix this except a new
> cat will normally get this to pass.
>
> I've applied for the CA assitance for test-only vehicles. So I have to
> wait to take it in.
>
> I've been reading online and it very well could be my EGR valve is
> stuck or broken.
>
> Jim.
>
> The Merg wrote:
> > Even though the standard schedule for maintenance applies to mileage, it
> > really should be viewed as a mileage or time period, whichever comes
> first.
> > What did they tell you to fix when it failed this time? Same things?
> >
> > kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > About 2000. It really is a third car.
> > >
> > > Jim.
> > >
> > >
> > > The Merg wrote:
> > >> Only 57k total on a '93? Wow. How many of those miles are in the last
> > >> two years?
> > >>
> > >> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >>> My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
> > >>>
> > >>> Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the
> max
> > >>> is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
> > >>> new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
> > >>> failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
> > >>> it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
> > >>> two years.
> > >>>
> > >>> How do I get the NO down?
> > >>> I did not:
> > >>> change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
> > >>> run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
> > >>> the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
> > >>>
> > >>> I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to sendme
> > >>> to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
> > >>> taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks for any help.
> > >>>
> > >>> Jim.
> > >>>
> > >> --
> > >> ÐÏࡱá
> > >
> >
> > --
> > ÐÏࡱá

Re: 93 Jeep Wrangler - 57K miles - fails CA smog
 

Jim,

Excess NOx is a sign of too much heat during combustion process (well,
for emissions purposes anyway). I don't know how picky your local test
only shop is, but retarding your timing a few degrees is the easiest
and fastest way to get around that problem. It's worked for me for
years in other states running the same smog test. Hm, for that matter,
make sure your timing is set properly to begin with.

I agree with Earle, a failing EGR system will fail your NOx too. On a
14 year old vehicle with as little mileage as you have on it, I'd
carefully check the passages for obstruction.

Assuming the cat's numbers were the same before and after replacment,
it's doing its job to the best of its ability, so take that out of the
equation.

Jon


Earle Horton wrote:
> If they really did replace your catalytic converter last time, then the EGR,
> if you have one in that vehicle, is indeed a likely suspect.
>
> Earle
>
> <kaigoneq@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1169335152.479033.120370@a75g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>
> I only went to the test-only station. The tech there said the other
> repair shop did not repair anything that would fix this except a new
> cat will normally get this to pass.
>
> I've applied for the CA assitance for test-only vehicles. So I have to
> wait to take it in.
>
> I've been reading online and it very well could be my EGR valve is
> stuck or broken.
>
> Jim.
>
> The Merg wrote:
> > Even though the standard schedule for maintenance applies to mileage, it
> > really should be viewed as a mileage or time period, whichever comes
> first.
> > What did they tell you to fix when it failed this time? Same things?
> >
> > kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > About 2000. It really is a third car.
> > >
> > > Jim.
> > >
> > >
> > > The Merg wrote:
> > >> Only 57k total on a '93? Wow. How many of those miles are in the last
> > >> two years?
> > >>
> > >> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >>> My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
> > >>>
> > >>> Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the
> max
> > >>> is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
> > >>> new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
> > >>> failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
> > >>> it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
> > >>> two years.
> > >>>
> > >>> How do I get the NO down?
> > >>> I did not:
> > >>> change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
> > >>> run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
> > >>> the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
> > >>>
> > >>> I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to sendme
> > >>> to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
> > >>> taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks for any help.
> > >>>
> > >>> Jim.
> > >>>
> > >> --
> > >> ÐÏࡱá
> > >
> >
> > --
> > ÐÏࡱá

Re: 93 Jeep Wrangler - 57K miles - fails CA smog
 

Jim,

Excess NOx is a sign of too much heat during combustion process (well,
for emissions purposes anyway). I don't know how picky your local test
only shop is, but retarding your timing a few degrees is the easiest
and fastest way to get around that problem. It's worked for me for
years in other states running the same smog test. Hm, for that matter,
make sure your timing is set properly to begin with.

I agree with Earle, a failing EGR system will fail your NOx too. On a
14 year old vehicle with as little mileage as you have on it, I'd
carefully check the passages for obstruction.

Assuming the cat's numbers were the same before and after replacment,
it's doing its job to the best of its ability, so take that out of the
equation.

Jon


Earle Horton wrote:
> If they really did replace your catalytic converter last time, then the EGR,
> if you have one in that vehicle, is indeed a likely suspect.
>
> Earle
>
> <kaigoneq@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1169335152.479033.120370@a75g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>
> I only went to the test-only station. The tech there said the other
> repair shop did not repair anything that would fix this except a new
> cat will normally get this to pass.
>
> I've applied for the CA assitance for test-only vehicles. So I have to
> wait to take it in.
>
> I've been reading online and it very well could be my EGR valve is
> stuck or broken.
>
> Jim.
>
> The Merg wrote:
> > Even though the standard schedule for maintenance applies to mileage, it
> > really should be viewed as a mileage or time period, whichever comes
> first.
> > What did they tell you to fix when it failed this time? Same things?
> >
> > kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > About 2000. It really is a third car.
> > >
> > > Jim.
> > >
> > >
> > > The Merg wrote:
> > >> Only 57k total on a '93? Wow. How many of those miles are in the last
> > >> two years?
> > >>
> > >> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >>> My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
> > >>>
> > >>> Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the
> max
> > >>> is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
> > >>> new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
> > >>> failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
> > >>> it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
> > >>> two years.
> > >>>
> > >>> How do I get the NO down?
> > >>> I did not:
> > >>> change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
> > >>> run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
> > >>> the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
> > >>>
> > >>> I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to sendme
> > >>> to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
> > >>> taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks for any help.
> > >>>
> > >>> Jim.
> > >>>
> > >> --
> > >> ÐÏࡱá
> > >
> >
> > --
> > ÐÏࡱá

Re: 93 Jeep Wrangler - 57K miles - fails CA smog
 

Aw shucks, I don't even know if your engine/year allows for timing
adjustment. If not, well then one less option.

Jon

Jon wrote:
> Jim,
>
> Excess NOx is a sign of too much heat during combustion process (well,
> for emissions purposes anyway). I don't know how picky your local test
> only shop is, but retarding your timing a few degrees is the easiest
> and fastest way to get around that problem. It's worked for me for
> years in other states running the same smog test. Hm, for that matter,
> make sure your timing is set properly to begin with.
>
> I agree with Earle, a failing EGR system will fail your NOx too. On a
> 14 year old vehicle with as little mileage as you have on it, I'd
> carefully check the passages for obstruction.
>
> Assuming the cat's numbers were the same before and after replacment,
> it's doing its job to the best of its ability, so take that out of the
> equation.
>
> Jon
>
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > If they really did replace your catalytic converter last time, then theEGR,
> > if you have one in that vehicle, is indeed a likely suspect.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > <kaigoneq@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1169335152.479033.120370@a75g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> > I only went to the test-only station. The tech there said the other
> > repair shop did not repair anything that would fix this except a new
> > cat will normally get this to pass.
> >
> > I've applied for the CA assitance for test-only vehicles. So I have to
> > wait to take it in.
> >
> > I've been reading online and it very well could be my EGR valve is
> > stuck or broken.
> >
> > Jim.
> >
> > The Merg wrote:
> > > Even though the standard schedule for maintenance applies to mileage,it
> > > really should be viewed as a mileage or time period, whichever comes
> > first.
> > > What did they tell you to fix when it failed this time? Same things?
> > >
> > > kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > About 2000. It really is a third car.
> > > >
> > > > Jim.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The Merg wrote:
> > > >> Only 57k total on a '93? Wow. How many of those miles are in thelast
> > > >> two years?
> > > >>
> > > >> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > >>> My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the
> > max
> > > >>> is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
> > > >>> new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
> > > >>> failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass.Now
> > > >>> it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car forthe
> > > >>> two years.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> How do I get the NO down?
> > > >>> I did not:
> > > >>> change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
> > > >>> run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said theylet
> > > >>> the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to send me
> > > >>> to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
> > > >>> taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks for any help.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Jim.
> > > >>>
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