Re: 93 Jeep Wrangler - 57K miles - fails CA smog
 

Even though the standard schedule for maintenance applies to mileage, it
really should be viewed as a mileage or time period, whichever comes first.
What did they tell you to fix when it failed this time? Same things?

kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> About 2000. It really is a third car.
>
> Jim.
>
>
> The Merg wrote:
>> Only 57k total on a '93? Wow. How many of those miles are in the last
>> two years?
>>
>> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
>>>
>>> Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the max
>>> is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
>>> new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
>>> failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
>>> it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
>>> two years.
>>>
>>> How do I get the NO down?
>>> I did not:
>>> change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
>>> run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
>>> the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
>>>
>>> I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to send me
>>> to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
>>> taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help.
>>>
>>> Jim.
>>>
>> --
>> ÐÏࡱá
>

--
ÐÏࡱá

Re: 93 Jeep Wrangler - 57K miles - fails CA smog
 

Even though the standard schedule for maintenance applies to mileage, it
really should be viewed as a mileage or time period, whichever comes first.
What did they tell you to fix when it failed this time? Same things?

kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> About 2000. It really is a third car.
>
> Jim.
>
>
> The Merg wrote:
>> Only 57k total on a '93? Wow. How many of those miles are in the last
>> two years?
>>
>> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
>>>
>>> Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the max
>>> is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
>>> new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
>>> failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
>>> it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
>>> two years.
>>>
>>> How do I get the NO down?
>>> I did not:
>>> change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
>>> run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
>>> the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
>>>
>>> I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to send me
>>> to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
>>> taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help.
>>>
>>> Jim.
>>>
>> --
>> ÐÏࡱá
>

--
ÐÏࡱá

Re: 93 Jeep Wrangler - 57K miles - fails CA smog
 

Even though the standard schedule for maintenance applies to mileage, it
really should be viewed as a mileage or time period, whichever comes first.
What did they tell you to fix when it failed this time? Same things?

kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> About 2000. It really is a third car.
>
> Jim.
>
>
> The Merg wrote:
>> Only 57k total on a '93? Wow. How many of those miles are in the last
>> two years?
>>
>> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
>>>
>>> Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the max
>>> is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
>>> new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
>>> failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
>>> it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
>>> two years.
>>>
>>> How do I get the NO down?
>>> I did not:
>>> change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
>>> run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
>>> the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
>>>
>>> I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to send me
>>> to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
>>> taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help.
>>>
>>> Jim.
>>>
>> --
>> ÐÏࡱá
>

--
ÐÏࡱá

Re: 93 Jeep Wrangler - 57K miles - fails CA smog
 

I only went to the test-only station. The tech there said the other
repair shop did not repair anything that would fix this except a new
cat will normally get this to pass.

I've applied for the CA assitance for test-only vehicles. So I have to
wait to take it in.

I've been reading online and it very well could be my EGR valve is
stuck or broken.

Jim.

The Merg wrote:
> Even though the standard schedule for maintenance applies to mileage, it
> really should be viewed as a mileage or time period, whichever comes first.
> What did they tell you to fix when it failed this time? Same things?
>
> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> > About 2000. It really is a third car.
> >
> > Jim.
> >
> >
> > The Merg wrote:
> >> Only 57k total on a '93? Wow. How many of those miles are in the last
> >> two years?
> >>
> >> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>> My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
> >>>
> >>> Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the max
> >>> is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
> >>> new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
> >>> failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
> >>> it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
> >>> two years.
> >>>
> >>> How do I get the NO down?
> >>> I did not:
> >>> change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
> >>> run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
> >>> the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
> >>>
> >>> I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to send me
> >>> to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
> >>> taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for any help.
> >>>
> >>> Jim.
> >>>
> >> --
> >> ÐÏࡱá
> >
>
> --
> ÐÏࡱá

Re: 93 Jeep Wrangler - 57K miles - fails CA smog
 

I only went to the test-only station. The tech there said the other
repair shop did not repair anything that would fix this except a new
cat will normally get this to pass.

I've applied for the CA assitance for test-only vehicles. So I have to
wait to take it in.

I've been reading online and it very well could be my EGR valve is
stuck or broken.

Jim.

The Merg wrote:
> Even though the standard schedule for maintenance applies to mileage, it
> really should be viewed as a mileage or time period, whichever comes first.
> What did they tell you to fix when it failed this time? Same things?
>
> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> > About 2000. It really is a third car.
> >
> > Jim.
> >
> >
> > The Merg wrote:
> >> Only 57k total on a '93? Wow. How many of those miles are in the last
> >> two years?
> >>
> >> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>> My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
> >>>
> >>> Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the max
> >>> is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
> >>> new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
> >>> failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
> >>> it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
> >>> two years.
> >>>
> >>> How do I get the NO down?
> >>> I did not:
> >>> change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
> >>> run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
> >>> the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
> >>>
> >>> I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to send me
> >>> to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
> >>> taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for any help.
> >>>
> >>> Jim.
> >>>
> >> --
> >> ÐÏࡱá
> >
>
> --
> ÐÏࡱá

Re: 93 Jeep Wrangler - 57K miles - fails CA smog
 

I only went to the test-only station. The tech there said the other
repair shop did not repair anything that would fix this except a new
cat will normally get this to pass.

I've applied for the CA assitance for test-only vehicles. So I have to
wait to take it in.

I've been reading online and it very well could be my EGR valve is
stuck or broken.

Jim.

The Merg wrote:
> Even though the standard schedule for maintenance applies to mileage, it
> really should be viewed as a mileage or time period, whichever comes first.
> What did they tell you to fix when it failed this time? Same things?
>
> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> > About 2000. It really is a third car.
> >
> > Jim.
> >
> >
> > The Merg wrote:
> >> Only 57k total on a '93? Wow. How many of those miles are in the last
> >> two years?
> >>
> >> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>> My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
> >>>
> >>> Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the max
> >>> is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
> >>> new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
> >>> failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
> >>> it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
> >>> two years.
> >>>
> >>> How do I get the NO down?
> >>> I did not:
> >>> change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
> >>> run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
> >>> the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
> >>>
> >>> I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to send me
> >>> to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
> >>> taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for any help.
> >>>
> >>> Jim.
> >>>
> >> --
> >> ÐÏࡱá
> >
>
> --
> ÐÏࡱá

Re: 93 Jeep Wrangler - 57K miles - fails CA smog
 

I only went to the test-only station. The tech there said the other
repair shop did not repair anything that would fix this except a new
cat will normally get this to pass.

I've applied for the CA assitance for test-only vehicles. So I have to
wait to take it in.

I've been reading online and it very well could be my EGR valve is
stuck or broken.

Jim.

The Merg wrote:
> Even though the standard schedule for maintenance applies to mileage, it
> really should be viewed as a mileage or time period, whichever comes first.
> What did they tell you to fix when it failed this time? Same things?
>
> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> > About 2000. It really is a third car.
> >
> > Jim.
> >
> >
> > The Merg wrote:
> >> Only 57k total on a '93? Wow. How many of those miles are in the last
> >> two years?
> >>
> >> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>> My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
> >>>
> >>> Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the max
> >>> is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
> >>> new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
> >>> failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
> >>> it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
> >>> two years.
> >>>
> >>> How do I get the NO down?
> >>> I did not:
> >>> change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
> >>> run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
> >>> the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
> >>>
> >>> I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to send me
> >>> to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
> >>> taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for any help.
> >>>
> >>> Jim.
> >>>
> >> --
> >> ÐÏࡱá
> >
>
> --
> ÐÏࡱá

Re: 93 Jeep Wrangler - 57K miles - fails CA smog
 

If they really did replace your catalytic converter last time, then the EGR,
if you have one in that vehicle, is indeed a likely suspect.

Earle

<kaigoneq@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1169335152.479033.120370@a75g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...

I only went to the test-only station. The tech there said the other
repair shop did not repair anything that would fix this except a new
cat will normally get this to pass.

I've applied for the CA assitance for test-only vehicles. So I have to
wait to take it in.

I've been reading online and it very well could be my EGR valve is
stuck or broken.

Jim.

The Merg wrote:
> Even though the standard schedule for maintenance applies to mileage, it
> really should be viewed as a mileage or time period, whichever comes
first.
> What did they tell you to fix when it failed this time? Same things?
>
> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> > About 2000. It really is a third car.
> >
> > Jim.
> >
> >
> > The Merg wrote:
> >> Only 57k total on a '93? Wow. How many of those miles are in the last
> >> two years?
> >>
> >> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>> My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
> >>>
> >>> Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the
max
> >>> is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
> >>> new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
> >>> failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
> >>> it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
> >>> two years.
> >>>
> >>> How do I get the NO down?
> >>> I did not:
> >>> change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
> >>> run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
> >>> the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
> >>>
> >>> I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to send me
> >>> to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
> >>> taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for any help.
> >>>
> >>> Jim.
> >>>
> >> --
> >> ÐÏࡱá
> >
>
> --
> ÐÏࡱá

Re: 93 Jeep Wrangler - 57K miles - fails CA smog
 

If they really did replace your catalytic converter last time, then the EGR,
if you have one in that vehicle, is indeed a likely suspect.

Earle

<kaigoneq@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1169335152.479033.120370@a75g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...

I only went to the test-only station. The tech there said the other
repair shop did not repair anything that would fix this except a new
cat will normally get this to pass.

I've applied for the CA assitance for test-only vehicles. So I have to
wait to take it in.

I've been reading online and it very well could be my EGR valve is
stuck or broken.

Jim.

The Merg wrote:
> Even though the standard schedule for maintenance applies to mileage, it
> really should be viewed as a mileage or time period, whichever comes
first.
> What did they tell you to fix when it failed this time? Same things?
>
> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> > About 2000. It really is a third car.
> >
> > Jim.
> >
> >
> > The Merg wrote:
> >> Only 57k total on a '93? Wow. How many of those miles are in the last
> >> two years?
> >>
> >> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>> My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
> >>>
> >>> Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the
max
> >>> is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
> >>> new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
> >>> failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
> >>> it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
> >>> two years.
> >>>
> >>> How do I get the NO down?
> >>> I did not:
> >>> change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
> >>> run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
> >>> the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
> >>>
> >>> I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to send me
> >>> to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
> >>> taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for any help.
> >>>
> >>> Jim.
> >>>
> >> --
> >> ÐÏࡱá
> >
>
> --
> ÐÏࡱá

Re: 93 Jeep Wrangler - 57K miles - fails CA smog
 

If they really did replace your catalytic converter last time, then the EGR,
if you have one in that vehicle, is indeed a likely suspect.

Earle

<kaigoneq@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1169335152.479033.120370@a75g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...

I only went to the test-only station. The tech there said the other
repair shop did not repair anything that would fix this except a new
cat will normally get this to pass.

I've applied for the CA assitance for test-only vehicles. So I have to
wait to take it in.

I've been reading online and it very well could be my EGR valve is
stuck or broken.

Jim.

The Merg wrote:
> Even though the standard schedule for maintenance applies to mileage, it
> really should be viewed as a mileage or time period, whichever comes
first.
> What did they tell you to fix when it failed this time? Same things?
>
> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> > About 2000. It really is a third car.
> >
> > Jim.
> >
> >
> > The Merg wrote:
> >> Only 57k total on a '93? Wow. How many of those miles are in the last
> >> two years?
> >>
> >> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>> My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
> >>>
> >>> Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the
max
> >>> is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
> >>> new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
> >>> failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
> >>> it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
> >>> two years.
> >>>
> >>> How do I get the NO down?
> >>> I did not:
> >>> change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
> >>> run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
> >>> the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
> >>>
> >>> I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to send me
> >>> to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
> >>> taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for any help.
> >>>
> >>> Jim.
> >>>
> >> --
> >> ÐÏࡱá
> >
>
> --
> ÐÏࡱá