93 Jeep Wrangler - 57K miles - fails CA smog
01-20-2007, 05:36 PM
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93 Jeep Wrangler - 57K miles - fails CA smog
My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the max
is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
two years.
How do I get the NO down?
I did not:
change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to send me
to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
Thanks for any help.
Jim.
01-20-2007, 05:44 PM
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Re: 93 Jeep Wrangler - 57K miles - fails CA smog
Only 57k total on a '93? Wow. How many of those miles are in the last
two years?
kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
>
> Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the max
> is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
> new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
> failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
> it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
> two years.
>
> How do I get the NO down?
> I did not:
> change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
> run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
> the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
>
> I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to send me
> to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
> taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Jim.
>
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two years?
kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
>
> Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the max
> is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
> new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
> failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
> it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
> two years.
>
> How do I get the NO down?
> I did not:
> change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
> run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
> the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
>
> I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to send me
> to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
> taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Jim.
>
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01-20-2007, 05:44 PM
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Re: 93 Jeep Wrangler - 57K miles - fails CA smog
Only 57k total on a '93? Wow. How many of those miles are in the last
two years?
kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
>
> Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the max
> is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
> new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
> failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
> it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
> two years.
>
> How do I get the NO down?
> I did not:
> change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
> run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
> the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
>
> I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to send me
> to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
> taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Jim.
>
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two years?
kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
>
> Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the max
> is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
> new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
> failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
> it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
> two years.
>
> How do I get the NO down?
> I did not:
> change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
> run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
> the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
>
> I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to send me
> to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
> taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Jim.
>
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01-20-2007, 05:44 PM
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Re: 93 Jeep Wrangler - 57K miles - fails CA smog
Only 57k total on a '93? Wow. How many of those miles are in the last
two years?
kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
>
> Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the max
> is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
> new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
> failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
> it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
> two years.
>
> How do I get the NO down?
> I did not:
> change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
> run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
> the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
>
> I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to send me
> to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
> taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Jim.
>
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two years?
kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
>
> Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the max
> is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
> new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
> failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
> it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
> two years.
>
> How do I get the NO down?
> I did not:
> change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
> run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
> the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
>
> I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to send me
> to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
> taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Jim.
>
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01-20-2007, 05:44 PM
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Re: 93 Jeep Wrangler - 57K miles - fails CA smog
Only 57k total on a '93? Wow. How many of those miles are in the last
two years?
kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
>
> Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the max
> is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
> new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
> failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
> it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
> two years.
>
> How do I get the NO down?
> I did not:
> change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
> run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
> the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
>
> I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to send me
> to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
> taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Jim.
>
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two years?
kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
>
> Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the max
> is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
> new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
> failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
> it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
> two years.
>
> How do I get the NO down?
> I did not:
> change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
> run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
> the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
>
> I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to send me
> to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
> taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Jim.
>
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01-20-2007, 05:46 PM
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Re: 93 Jeep Wrangler - 57K miles - fails CA smog
About 2000. It really is a third car.
Jim.
The Merg wrote:
> Only 57k total on a '93? Wow. How many of those miles are in the last
> two years?
>
> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> > My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
> >
> > Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the max
> > is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
> > new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
> > failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
> > it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
> > two years.
> >
> > How do I get the NO down?
> > I did not:
> > change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
> > run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
> > the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
> >
> > I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to send me
> > to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
> > taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
> >
> > Thanks for any help.
> >
> > Jim.
> >
>
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> ÐÏࡱá
Jim.
The Merg wrote:
> Only 57k total on a '93? Wow. How many of those miles are in the last
> two years?
>
> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> > My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
> >
> > Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the max
> > is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
> > new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
> > failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
> > it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
> > two years.
> >
> > How do I get the NO down?
> > I did not:
> > change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
> > run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
> > the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
> >
> > I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to send me
> > to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
> > taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
> >
> > Thanks for any help.
> >
> > Jim.
> >
>
> --
> ÐÏࡱá
01-20-2007, 05:46 PM
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Re: 93 Jeep Wrangler - 57K miles - fails CA smog
About 2000. It really is a third car.
Jim.
The Merg wrote:
> Only 57k total on a '93? Wow. How many of those miles are in the last
> two years?
>
> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> > My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
> >
> > Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the max
> > is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
> > new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
> > failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
> > it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
> > two years.
> >
> > How do I get the NO down?
> > I did not:
> > change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
> > run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
> > the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
> >
> > I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to send me
> > to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
> > taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
> >
> > Thanks for any help.
> >
> > Jim.
> >
>
> --
> ÐÏࡱá
Jim.
The Merg wrote:
> Only 57k total on a '93? Wow. How many of those miles are in the last
> two years?
>
> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> > My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
> >
> > Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the max
> > is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
> > new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
> > failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
> > it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
> > two years.
> >
> > How do I get the NO down?
> > I did not:
> > change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
> > run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
> > the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
> >
> > I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to send me
> > to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
> > taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
> >
> > Thanks for any help.
> >
> > Jim.
> >
>
> --
> ÐÏࡱá
01-20-2007, 05:46 PM
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Re: 93 Jeep Wrangler - 57K miles - fails CA smog
About 2000. It really is a third car.
Jim.
The Merg wrote:
> Only 57k total on a '93? Wow. How many of those miles are in the last
> two years?
>
> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> > My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
> >
> > Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the max
> > is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
> > new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
> > failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
> > it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
> > two years.
> >
> > How do I get the NO down?
> > I did not:
> > change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
> > run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
> > the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
> >
> > I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to send me
> > to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
> > taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
> >
> > Thanks for any help.
> >
> > Jim.
> >
>
> --
> ÐÏࡱá
Jim.
The Merg wrote:
> Only 57k total on a '93? Wow. How many of those miles are in the last
> two years?
>
> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> > My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
> >
> > Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the max
> > is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
> > new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
> > failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
> > it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
> > two years.
> >
> > How do I get the NO down?
> > I did not:
> > change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
> > run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
> > the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
> >
> > I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to send me
> > to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
> > taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
> >
> > Thanks for any help.
> >
> > Jim.
> >
>
> --
> ÐÏࡱá
01-20-2007, 05:46 PM
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Re: 93 Jeep Wrangler - 57K miles - fails CA smog
About 2000. It really is a third car.
Jim.
The Merg wrote:
> Only 57k total on a '93? Wow. How many of those miles are in the last
> two years?
>
> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> > My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
> >
> > Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the max
> > is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
> > new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
> > failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
> > it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
> > two years.
> >
> > How do I get the NO down?
> > I did not:
> > change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
> > run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
> > the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
> >
> > I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to send me
> > to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
> > taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
> >
> > Thanks for any help.
> >
> > Jim.
> >
>
> --
> ÐÏࡱá
Jim.
The Merg wrote:
> Only 57k total on a '93? Wow. How many of those miles are in the last
> two years?
>
> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> > My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
> >
> > Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the max
> > is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
> > new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
> > failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
> > it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
> > two years.
> >
> > How do I get the NO down?
> > I did not:
> > change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
> > run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
> > the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
> >
> > I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to send me
> > to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
> > taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
> >
> > Thanks for any help.
> >
> > Jim.
> >
>
> --
> ÐÏࡱá
01-20-2007, 05:52 PM
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Re: 93 Jeep Wrangler - 57K miles - fails CA smog
Even though the standard schedule for maintenance applies to mileage, it
really should be viewed as a mileage or time period, whichever comes first.
What did they tell you to fix when it failed this time? Same things?
kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> About 2000. It really is a third car.
>
> Jim.
>
>
> The Merg wrote:
>> Only 57k total on a '93? Wow. How many of those miles are in the last
>> two years?
>>
>> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
>>>
>>> Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the max
>>> is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
>>> new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
>>> failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
>>> it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
>>> two years.
>>>
>>> How do I get the NO down?
>>> I did not:
>>> change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
>>> run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
>>> the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
>>>
>>> I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to send me
>>> to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
>>> taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help.
>>>
>>> Jim.
>>>
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really should be viewed as a mileage or time period, whichever comes first.
What did they tell you to fix when it failed this time? Same things?
kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
> About 2000. It really is a third car.
>
> Jim.
>
>
> The Merg wrote:
>> Only 57k total on a '93? Wow. How many of those miles are in the last
>> two years?
>>
>> kaigoneq@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> My Jeep Wrangler failed the smog check (for CA) again this year.
>>>
>>> Two years ago it failed with NO of over 1000 (at Test Only) and the max
>>> is 517. The repair shop said I needed to fix X things: new radiator,
>>> new pump, new cat converter, etc. I paid almost $1100 and it was still
>>> failing. Some how after I complained a bunch they got it to pass. Now
>>> it fails with the same 1000 number and I barely drove the car for the
>>> two years.
>>>
>>> How do I get the NO down?
>>> I did not:
>>> change plugs, oil, filters, etc.
>>> run the car to heat up the cat since the repair shop said they let
>>> the car go on the machine cold to get it to pass.
>>>
>>> I applied to CA test-only repair service, they are supposed to send me
>>> to a responsible place to have my car looked at. I feel I really got
>>> taken two years ago and maybe someone fooled the machine.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help.
>>>
>>> Jim.
>>>
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