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Snow 12-13-2004 09:08 AM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
Wow, I have 368,873 km's on my XJ, I got with 170,000 plus on it and unless
the timing chain was done before I got it, it's never been done. I change
the oil about every 5000 km or close to it.

Snow...

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:HW5vd.111042$tU4.66415@okepread06...
> Patrick did pass the time by typing:
> > it's the first time i ear about replacing the timing chain, i have close

to
> > 278,000 Km should i start to think about replacing it? i was sure it was
> > getting noisy before it need replacement. it a 600-700 $ job here at the
> > stealer i think.... and i would not ask a corner garage mechanic to do

it,
> > due to bad experience.....

>
> Most vehicles never make it that far, so it's not listed as a maintenance

item.
>
> 278,000Km == 172,000 Miles
>
> It all depends on how the engine has been maintained and treated. If
> the oil was changed every 3000-5000 miles you probably have 100,000
> more miles in it. If it was abused or overrevved/overheated, then
> less.
>
> The timing chain will make a racket, but don't ignore it for long.
> The I6 is an interference engine. i.e. the pistons can hit the valves
> if the chain breaks. That as they say, is "real ugly".
>
> Cost should run about $185 or so, it's not a difficult job but does take
> some time. The chain is only $15, crankshaft gear $5.99
> Other parts and seals are also fairly inexpensive.
>
> http://www.chryslerpartsdirect.com/moparonline.htm
>
> You would probably be wise to replace the harmonic balancer at that
> point since it has to come off to do the chain. And it also tends to
> wear out. You will know it is wearing when the belt starts squealing
> on humid days, gets worn on the edges, or jumps grooves.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>




Snow 12-13-2004 09:08 AM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
Wow, I have 368,873 km's on my XJ, I got with 170,000 plus on it and unless
the timing chain was done before I got it, it's never been done. I change
the oil about every 5000 km or close to it.

Snow...

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:HW5vd.111042$tU4.66415@okepread06...
> Patrick did pass the time by typing:
> > it's the first time i ear about replacing the timing chain, i have close

to
> > 278,000 Km should i start to think about replacing it? i was sure it was
> > getting noisy before it need replacement. it a 600-700 $ job here at the
> > stealer i think.... and i would not ask a corner garage mechanic to do

it,
> > due to bad experience.....

>
> Most vehicles never make it that far, so it's not listed as a maintenance

item.
>
> 278,000Km == 172,000 Miles
>
> It all depends on how the engine has been maintained and treated. If
> the oil was changed every 3000-5000 miles you probably have 100,000
> more miles in it. If it was abused or overrevved/overheated, then
> less.
>
> The timing chain will make a racket, but don't ignore it for long.
> The I6 is an interference engine. i.e. the pistons can hit the valves
> if the chain breaks. That as they say, is "real ugly".
>
> Cost should run about $185 or so, it's not a difficult job but does take
> some time. The chain is only $15, crankshaft gear $5.99
> Other parts and seals are also fairly inexpensive.
>
> http://www.chryslerpartsdirect.com/moparonline.htm
>
> You would probably be wise to replace the harmonic balancer at that
> point since it has to come off to do the chain. And it also tends to
> wear out. You will know it is wearing when the belt starts squealing
> on humid days, gets worn on the edges, or jumps grooves.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>




DougW 12-13-2004 09:42 AM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
Snow did pass the time by typing:
> Wow, I have 368,873 km's on my XJ, I got with 170,000 plus on it and unless
> the timing chain was done before I got it, it's never been done. I change
> the oil about every 5000 km or close to it.


I'm only going off the "recommended" service life. Not knowing the
engines condition. With routine oil changes the chain could well
last much longer than 200,000 Miles.

Heck, I put over 200,000 Miles on my C-10 rear diff without one fluid change. o_O

--
DougW



DougW 12-13-2004 09:42 AM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
Snow did pass the time by typing:
> Wow, I have 368,873 km's on my XJ, I got with 170,000 plus on it and unless
> the timing chain was done before I got it, it's never been done. I change
> the oil about every 5000 km or close to it.


I'm only going off the "recommended" service life. Not knowing the
engines condition. With routine oil changes the chain could well
last much longer than 200,000 Miles.

Heck, I put over 200,000 Miles on my C-10 rear diff without one fluid change. o_O

--
DougW



DougW 12-13-2004 09:42 AM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
Snow did pass the time by typing:
> Wow, I have 368,873 km's on my XJ, I got with 170,000 plus on it and unless
> the timing chain was done before I got it, it's never been done. I change
> the oil about every 5000 km or close to it.


I'm only going off the "recommended" service life. Not knowing the
engines condition. With routine oil changes the chain could well
last much longer than 200,000 Miles.

Heck, I put over 200,000 Miles on my C-10 rear diff without one fluid change. o_O

--
DougW



SteveBrady 12-13-2004 06:27 PM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
Is that all your milage Mike?


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41BDA1A2.E40952C7@sympatico.ca...
> Ours has over 300K km on it and I am not worried about the chain. Maybe
> it will be time when it turns 500K.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Patrick wrote:
>>
>> it's the first time i ear about replacing the timing chain, i have close
>> to
>> 278,000 Km should i start to think about replacing it? i was sure it was
>> getting noisy before it need replacement. it a 600-700 $ job here at the
>> stealer i think.... and i would not ask a corner garage mechanic to do
>> it,
>> due to bad experience.....
>>
>> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> a écrit dans le message de news:
>> ST4vd.111033$tU4.4583@okepread06...
>> > Ralf did pass the time by typing:
>> >> Am considering a used '93 Jeep Cherokee with 250,000 miles on it
>> >> looks
>> >> fairly clean and runs good.. they are asking $1400 - any issues I need
>> >> ti
>> >> be
>> >> aware of? thanks in advance..rg
>> >
>> > Bit high on the milage, but if it's been kept in good shape
>> > and most importanly, had the oil changed regularly, it should
>> > be fine. One thing though, 200,000 miles is roughly the time you
>> > should replace the timing chain on the I-6 engine.
>> >
>> > I'd also be checking under the carpet and around the wheel wells,
>> > door corners, etc. for rust.
>> >
>> > --
>> > -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
>> > HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
>> > Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
>> > Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>> >




SteveBrady 12-13-2004 06:27 PM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
Is that all your milage Mike?


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41BDA1A2.E40952C7@sympatico.ca...
> Ours has over 300K km on it and I am not worried about the chain. Maybe
> it will be time when it turns 500K.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Patrick wrote:
>>
>> it's the first time i ear about replacing the timing chain, i have close
>> to
>> 278,000 Km should i start to think about replacing it? i was sure it was
>> getting noisy before it need replacement. it a 600-700 $ job here at the
>> stealer i think.... and i would not ask a corner garage mechanic to do
>> it,
>> due to bad experience.....
>>
>> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> a écrit dans le message de news:
>> ST4vd.111033$tU4.4583@okepread06...
>> > Ralf did pass the time by typing:
>> >> Am considering a used '93 Jeep Cherokee with 250,000 miles on it
>> >> looks
>> >> fairly clean and runs good.. they are asking $1400 - any issues I need
>> >> ti
>> >> be
>> >> aware of? thanks in advance..rg
>> >
>> > Bit high on the milage, but if it's been kept in good shape
>> > and most importanly, had the oil changed regularly, it should
>> > be fine. One thing though, 200,000 miles is roughly the time you
>> > should replace the timing chain on the I-6 engine.
>> >
>> > I'd also be checking under the carpet and around the wheel wells,
>> > door corners, etc. for rust.
>> >
>> > --
>> > -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
>> > HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
>> > Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
>> > Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>> >




SteveBrady 12-13-2004 06:27 PM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
Is that all your milage Mike?


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41BDA1A2.E40952C7@sympatico.ca...
> Ours has over 300K km on it and I am not worried about the chain. Maybe
> it will be time when it turns 500K.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Patrick wrote:
>>
>> it's the first time i ear about replacing the timing chain, i have close
>> to
>> 278,000 Km should i start to think about replacing it? i was sure it was
>> getting noisy before it need replacement. it a 600-700 $ job here at the
>> stealer i think.... and i would not ask a corner garage mechanic to do
>> it,
>> due to bad experience.....
>>
>> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> a écrit dans le message de news:
>> ST4vd.111033$tU4.4583@okepread06...
>> > Ralf did pass the time by typing:
>> >> Am considering a used '93 Jeep Cherokee with 250,000 miles on it
>> >> looks
>> >> fairly clean and runs good.. they are asking $1400 - any issues I need
>> >> ti
>> >> be
>> >> aware of? thanks in advance..rg
>> >
>> > Bit high on the milage, but if it's been kept in good shape
>> > and most importanly, had the oil changed regularly, it should
>> > be fine. One thing though, 200,000 miles is roughly the time you
>> > should replace the timing chain on the I-6 engine.
>> >
>> > I'd also be checking under the carpet and around the wheel wells,
>> > door corners, etc. for rust.
>> >
>> > --
>> > -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
>> > HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
>> > Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
>> > Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>> >




Mike Romain 12-13-2004 07:02 PM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
No, we got it around 250K or so. It has been nice to us. We have off
roaded it on some pretty insane trails and it still hangs in there.
Minus a few pieces like the rear bumper end and some trim bits trees
took out, but.... ;-)

The slave is going, so I am going to have to pull the thing apart
soon.... Oh well, it likely is in need of it's first clutch change
too.... (only one previous owner and I have the history)

I have also put about 40K miles on my CJ7.

We have decided we like Jeeps and will likely stick with them. Well, we
will never sell our CJ7, that's for sure, we might upgrade to a newer
Cherokee some day.

Mike

SteveBrady wrote:
>
> Is that all your milage Mike?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:41BDA1A2.E40952C7@sympatico.ca...
> > Ours has over 300K km on it and I am not worried about the chain. Maybe
> > it will be time when it turns 500K.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Patrick wrote:
> >>
> >> it's the first time i ear about replacing the timing chain, i have close
> >> to
> >> 278,000 Km should i start to think about replacing it? i was sure it was
> >> getting noisy before it need replacement. it a 600-700 $ job here at the
> >> stealer i think.... and i would not ask a corner garage mechanic to do
> >> it,
> >> due to bad experience.....
> >>
> >> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> a écrit dans le message de news:
> >> ST4vd.111033$tU4.4583@okepread06...
> >> > Ralf did pass the time by typing:
> >> >> Am considering a used '93 Jeep Cherokee with 250,000 miles on it
> >> >> looks
> >> >> fairly clean and runs good.. they are asking $1400 - any issues I need
> >> >> ti
> >> >> be
> >> >> aware of? thanks in advance..rg
> >> >
> >> > Bit high on the milage, but if it's been kept in good shape
> >> > and most importanly, had the oil changed regularly, it should
> >> > be fine. One thing though, 200,000 miles is roughly the time you
> >> > should replace the timing chain on the I-6 engine.
> >> >
> >> > I'd also be checking under the carpet and around the wheel wells,
> >> > door corners, etc. for rust.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
> >> > HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> >> > Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> >> > Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
> >> >


Mike Romain 12-13-2004 07:02 PM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
No, we got it around 250K or so. It has been nice to us. We have off
roaded it on some pretty insane trails and it still hangs in there.
Minus a few pieces like the rear bumper end and some trim bits trees
took out, but.... ;-)

The slave is going, so I am going to have to pull the thing apart
soon.... Oh well, it likely is in need of it's first clutch change
too.... (only one previous owner and I have the history)

I have also put about 40K miles on my CJ7.

We have decided we like Jeeps and will likely stick with them. Well, we
will never sell our CJ7, that's for sure, we might upgrade to a newer
Cherokee some day.

Mike

SteveBrady wrote:
>
> Is that all your milage Mike?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:41BDA1A2.E40952C7@sympatico.ca...
> > Ours has over 300K km on it and I am not worried about the chain. Maybe
> > it will be time when it turns 500K.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Patrick wrote:
> >>
> >> it's the first time i ear about replacing the timing chain, i have close
> >> to
> >> 278,000 Km should i start to think about replacing it? i was sure it was
> >> getting noisy before it need replacement. it a 600-700 $ job here at the
> >> stealer i think.... and i would not ask a corner garage mechanic to do
> >> it,
> >> due to bad experience.....
> >>
> >> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> a écrit dans le message de news:
> >> ST4vd.111033$tU4.4583@okepread06...
> >> > Ralf did pass the time by typing:
> >> >> Am considering a used '93 Jeep Cherokee with 250,000 miles on it
> >> >> looks
> >> >> fairly clean and runs good.. they are asking $1400 - any issues I need
> >> >> ti
> >> >> be
> >> >> aware of? thanks in advance..rg
> >> >
> >> > Bit high on the milage, but if it's been kept in good shape
> >> > and most importanly, had the oil changed regularly, it should
> >> > be fine. One thing though, 200,000 miles is roughly the time you
> >> > should replace the timing chain on the I-6 engine.
> >> >
> >> > I'd also be checking under the carpet and around the wheel wells,
> >> > door corners, etc. for rust.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
> >> > HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> >> > Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> >> > Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
> >> >



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