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Ralf 12-12-2004 02:53 PM

93 Jeep Cherokee
 
Am considering a used '93 Jeep Cherokee with 250,000 miles on it looks
fairly clean and runs good.. they are asking $1400 - any issues I need ti be
aware of? thanks in advance..rg



Jo Bo 12-12-2004 04:16 PM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
If you do your work fine but price is a little high to my thinking for 1/4
of a million miles! If your in a rust country, look under the carpet on the
driver's side.

JoBo


"Ralf" <xstream@highstream.net> wrote in message
news:10rp8e1cprpuh5b@corp.supernews.com...
> Am considering a used '93 Jeep Cherokee with 250,000 miles on it looks
> fairly clean and runs good.. they are asking $1400 - any issues I need ti
> be
> aware of? thanks in advance..rg
>
>




Jo Bo 12-12-2004 04:16 PM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
If you do your work fine but price is a little high to my thinking for 1/4
of a million miles! If your in a rust country, look under the carpet on the
driver's side.

JoBo


"Ralf" <xstream@highstream.net> wrote in message
news:10rp8e1cprpuh5b@corp.supernews.com...
> Am considering a used '93 Jeep Cherokee with 250,000 miles on it looks
> fairly clean and runs good.. they are asking $1400 - any issues I need ti
> be
> aware of? thanks in advance..rg
>
>




Jo Bo 12-12-2004 04:16 PM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
If you do your work fine but price is a little high to my thinking for 1/4
of a million miles! If your in a rust country, look under the carpet on the
driver's side.

JoBo


"Ralf" <xstream@highstream.net> wrote in message
news:10rp8e1cprpuh5b@corp.supernews.com...
> Am considering a used '93 Jeep Cherokee with 250,000 miles on it looks
> fairly clean and runs good.. they are asking $1400 - any issues I need ti
> be
> aware of? thanks in advance..rg
>
>




Snow 12-12-2004 06:45 PM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
Things to check.
rocker panels, ensure they are in tact, if the jeep has running boards the
rockers will rust out.
check the passenger side floor, with the exhaust and cat sitting under it
the passenger floor will rust out first.
check the floor in the cargo area, being above the gas tank will cause water
and moisture to get trapped.
That's pretty much it on the body side of it, mechanical side is pretty
straight forward.

Snow...

"Jo Bo" <jromas@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Ay2vd.62545$MG3.53227@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> If you do your work fine but price is a little high to my thinking for

1/4
> of a million miles! If your in a rust country, look under the carpet on

the
> driver's side.
>
> JoBo
>
>
> "Ralf" <xstream@highstream.net> wrote in message
> news:10rp8e1cprpuh5b@corp.supernews.com...
> > Am considering a used '93 Jeep Cherokee with 250,000 miles on it looks
> > fairly clean and runs good.. they are asking $1400 - any issues I need

ti
> > be
> > aware of? thanks in advance..rg
> >
> >

>
>




Snow 12-12-2004 06:45 PM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
Things to check.
rocker panels, ensure they are in tact, if the jeep has running boards the
rockers will rust out.
check the passenger side floor, with the exhaust and cat sitting under it
the passenger floor will rust out first.
check the floor in the cargo area, being above the gas tank will cause water
and moisture to get trapped.
That's pretty much it on the body side of it, mechanical side is pretty
straight forward.

Snow...

"Jo Bo" <jromas@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Ay2vd.62545$MG3.53227@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> If you do your work fine but price is a little high to my thinking for

1/4
> of a million miles! If your in a rust country, look under the carpet on

the
> driver's side.
>
> JoBo
>
>
> "Ralf" <xstream@highstream.net> wrote in message
> news:10rp8e1cprpuh5b@corp.supernews.com...
> > Am considering a used '93 Jeep Cherokee with 250,000 miles on it looks
> > fairly clean and runs good.. they are asking $1400 - any issues I need

ti
> > be
> > aware of? thanks in advance..rg
> >
> >

>
>




Snow 12-12-2004 06:45 PM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
Things to check.
rocker panels, ensure they are in tact, if the jeep has running boards the
rockers will rust out.
check the passenger side floor, with the exhaust and cat sitting under it
the passenger floor will rust out first.
check the floor in the cargo area, being above the gas tank will cause water
and moisture to get trapped.
That's pretty much it on the body side of it, mechanical side is pretty
straight forward.

Snow...

"Jo Bo" <jromas@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Ay2vd.62545$MG3.53227@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> If you do your work fine but price is a little high to my thinking for

1/4
> of a million miles! If your in a rust country, look under the carpet on

the
> driver's side.
>
> JoBo
>
>
> "Ralf" <xstream@highstream.net> wrote in message
> news:10rp8e1cprpuh5b@corp.supernews.com...
> > Am considering a used '93 Jeep Cherokee with 250,000 miles on it looks
> > fairly clean and runs good.. they are asking $1400 - any issues I need

ti
> > be
> > aware of? thanks in advance..rg
> >
> >

>
>




DougW 12-12-2004 06:55 PM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
Ralf did pass the time by typing:
> Am considering a used '93 Jeep Cherokee with 250,000 miles on it looks
> fairly clean and runs good.. they are asking $1400 - any issues I need ti be
> aware of? thanks in advance..rg


Bit high on the milage, but if it's been kept in good shape
and most importanly, had the oil changed regularly, it should
be fine. One thing though, 200,000 miles is roughly the time you
should replace the timing chain on the I-6 engine.

I'd also be checking under the carpet and around the wheel wells,
door corners, etc. for rust.

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!



DougW 12-12-2004 06:55 PM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
Ralf did pass the time by typing:
> Am considering a used '93 Jeep Cherokee with 250,000 miles on it looks
> fairly clean and runs good.. they are asking $1400 - any issues I need ti be
> aware of? thanks in advance..rg


Bit high on the milage, but if it's been kept in good shape
and most importanly, had the oil changed regularly, it should
be fine. One thing though, 200,000 miles is roughly the time you
should replace the timing chain on the I-6 engine.

I'd also be checking under the carpet and around the wheel wells,
door corners, etc. for rust.

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!



DougW 12-12-2004 06:55 PM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
Ralf did pass the time by typing:
> Am considering a used '93 Jeep Cherokee with 250,000 miles on it looks
> fairly clean and runs good.. they are asking $1400 - any issues I need ti be
> aware of? thanks in advance..rg


Bit high on the milage, but if it's been kept in good shape
and most importanly, had the oil changed regularly, it should
be fine. One thing though, 200,000 miles is roughly the time you
should replace the timing chain on the I-6 engine.

I'd also be checking under the carpet and around the wheel wells,
door corners, etc. for rust.

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!



Patrick 12-12-2004 07:31 PM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
it's the first time i ear about replacing the timing chain, i have close to
278,000 Km should i start to think about replacing it? i was sure it was
getting noisy before it need replacement. it a 600-700 $ job here at the
stealer i think.... and i would not ask a corner garage mechanic to do it,
due to bad experience.....

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> a écrit dans le message de news:
ST4vd.111033$tU4.4583@okepread06...
> Ralf did pass the time by typing:
>> Am considering a used '93 Jeep Cherokee with 250,000 miles on it looks
>> fairly clean and runs good.. they are asking $1400 - any issues I need ti
>> be
>> aware of? thanks in advance..rg

>
> Bit high on the milage, but if it's been kept in good shape
> and most importanly, had the oil changed regularly, it should
> be fine. One thing though, 200,000 miles is roughly the time you
> should replace the timing chain on the I-6 engine.
>
> I'd also be checking under the carpet and around the wheel wells,
> door corners, etc. for rust.
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>




Patrick 12-12-2004 07:31 PM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
it's the first time i ear about replacing the timing chain, i have close to
278,000 Km should i start to think about replacing it? i was sure it was
getting noisy before it need replacement. it a 600-700 $ job here at the
stealer i think.... and i would not ask a corner garage mechanic to do it,
due to bad experience.....

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> a écrit dans le message de news:
ST4vd.111033$tU4.4583@okepread06...
> Ralf did pass the time by typing:
>> Am considering a used '93 Jeep Cherokee with 250,000 miles on it looks
>> fairly clean and runs good.. they are asking $1400 - any issues I need ti
>> be
>> aware of? thanks in advance..rg

>
> Bit high on the milage, but if it's been kept in good shape
> and most importanly, had the oil changed regularly, it should
> be fine. One thing though, 200,000 miles is roughly the time you
> should replace the timing chain on the I-6 engine.
>
> I'd also be checking under the carpet and around the wheel wells,
> door corners, etc. for rust.
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>




Patrick 12-12-2004 07:31 PM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
it's the first time i ear about replacing the timing chain, i have close to
278,000 Km should i start to think about replacing it? i was sure it was
getting noisy before it need replacement. it a 600-700 $ job here at the
stealer i think.... and i would not ask a corner garage mechanic to do it,
due to bad experience.....

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> a écrit dans le message de news:
ST4vd.111033$tU4.4583@okepread06...
> Ralf did pass the time by typing:
>> Am considering a used '93 Jeep Cherokee with 250,000 miles on it looks
>> fairly clean and runs good.. they are asking $1400 - any issues I need ti
>> be
>> aware of? thanks in advance..rg

>
> Bit high on the milage, but if it's been kept in good shape
> and most importanly, had the oil changed regularly, it should
> be fine. One thing though, 200,000 miles is roughly the time you
> should replace the timing chain on the I-6 engine.
>
> I'd also be checking under the carpet and around the wheel wells,
> door corners, etc. for rust.
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>




DougW 12-12-2004 08:06 PM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
Patrick did pass the time by typing:
> it's the first time i ear about replacing the timing chain, i have close to
> 278,000 Km should i start to think about replacing it? i was sure it was
> getting noisy before it need replacement. it a 600-700 $ job here at the
> stealer i think.... and i would not ask a corner garage mechanic to do it,
> due to bad experience.....


Most vehicles never make it that far, so it's not listed as a maintenance item.

278,000Km == 172,000 Miles

It all depends on how the engine has been maintained and treated. If
the oil was changed every 3000-5000 miles you probably have 100,000
more miles in it. If it was abused or overrevved/overheated, then
less.

The timing chain will make a racket, but don't ignore it for long.
The I6 is an interference engine. i.e. the pistons can hit the valves
if the chain breaks. That as they say, is "real ugly".

Cost should run about $185 or so, it's not a difficult job but does take
some time. The chain is only $15, crankshaft gear $5.99
Other parts and seals are also fairly inexpensive.

http://www.chryslerpartsdirect.com/moparonline.htm

You would probably be wise to replace the harmonic balancer at that
point since it has to come off to do the chain. And it also tends to
wear out. You will know it is wearing when the belt starts squealing
on humid days, gets worn on the edges, or jumps grooves.

--
DougW



DougW 12-12-2004 08:06 PM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
Patrick did pass the time by typing:
> it's the first time i ear about replacing the timing chain, i have close to
> 278,000 Km should i start to think about replacing it? i was sure it was
> getting noisy before it need replacement. it a 600-700 $ job here at the
> stealer i think.... and i would not ask a corner garage mechanic to do it,
> due to bad experience.....


Most vehicles never make it that far, so it's not listed as a maintenance item.

278,000Km == 172,000 Miles

It all depends on how the engine has been maintained and treated. If
the oil was changed every 3000-5000 miles you probably have 100,000
more miles in it. If it was abused or overrevved/overheated, then
less.

The timing chain will make a racket, but don't ignore it for long.
The I6 is an interference engine. i.e. the pistons can hit the valves
if the chain breaks. That as they say, is "real ugly".

Cost should run about $185 or so, it's not a difficult job but does take
some time. The chain is only $15, crankshaft gear $5.99
Other parts and seals are also fairly inexpensive.

http://www.chryslerpartsdirect.com/moparonline.htm

You would probably be wise to replace the harmonic balancer at that
point since it has to come off to do the chain. And it also tends to
wear out. You will know it is wearing when the belt starts squealing
on humid days, gets worn on the edges, or jumps grooves.

--
DougW



DougW 12-12-2004 08:06 PM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
Patrick did pass the time by typing:
> it's the first time i ear about replacing the timing chain, i have close to
> 278,000 Km should i start to think about replacing it? i was sure it was
> getting noisy before it need replacement. it a 600-700 $ job here at the
> stealer i think.... and i would not ask a corner garage mechanic to do it,
> due to bad experience.....


Most vehicles never make it that far, so it's not listed as a maintenance item.

278,000Km == 172,000 Miles

It all depends on how the engine has been maintained and treated. If
the oil was changed every 3000-5000 miles you probably have 100,000
more miles in it. If it was abused or overrevved/overheated, then
less.

The timing chain will make a racket, but don't ignore it for long.
The I6 is an interference engine. i.e. the pistons can hit the valves
if the chain breaks. That as they say, is "real ugly".

Cost should run about $185 or so, it's not a difficult job but does take
some time. The chain is only $15, crankshaft gear $5.99
Other parts and seals are also fairly inexpensive.

http://www.chryslerpartsdirect.com/moparonline.htm

You would probably be wise to replace the harmonic balancer at that
point since it has to come off to do the chain. And it also tends to
wear out. You will know it is wearing when the belt starts squealing
on humid days, gets worn on the edges, or jumps grooves.

--
DougW



Mike Romain 12-13-2004 09:05 AM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
Ours has over 300K km on it and I am not worried about the chain. Maybe
it will be time when it turns 500K.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Patrick wrote:
>
> it's the first time i ear about replacing the timing chain, i have close to
> 278,000 Km should i start to think about replacing it? i was sure it was
> getting noisy before it need replacement. it a 600-700 $ job here at the
> stealer i think.... and i would not ask a corner garage mechanic to do it,
> due to bad experience.....
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> a écrit dans le message de news:
> ST4vd.111033$tU4.4583@okepread06...
> > Ralf did pass the time by typing:
> >> Am considering a used '93 Jeep Cherokee with 250,000 miles on it looks
> >> fairly clean and runs good.. they are asking $1400 - any issues I need ti
> >> be
> >> aware of? thanks in advance..rg

> >
> > Bit high on the milage, but if it's been kept in good shape
> > and most importanly, had the oil changed regularly, it should
> > be fine. One thing though, 200,000 miles is roughly the time you
> > should replace the timing chain on the I-6 engine.
> >
> > I'd also be checking under the carpet and around the wheel wells,
> > door corners, etc. for rust.
> >
> > --
> > -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
> > HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> > Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> > Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
> >


Mike Romain 12-13-2004 09:05 AM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
Ours has over 300K km on it and I am not worried about the chain. Maybe
it will be time when it turns 500K.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Patrick wrote:
>
> it's the first time i ear about replacing the timing chain, i have close to
> 278,000 Km should i start to think about replacing it? i was sure it was
> getting noisy before it need replacement. it a 600-700 $ job here at the
> stealer i think.... and i would not ask a corner garage mechanic to do it,
> due to bad experience.....
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> a écrit dans le message de news:
> ST4vd.111033$tU4.4583@okepread06...
> > Ralf did pass the time by typing:
> >> Am considering a used '93 Jeep Cherokee with 250,000 miles on it looks
> >> fairly clean and runs good.. they are asking $1400 - any issues I need ti
> >> be
> >> aware of? thanks in advance..rg

> >
> > Bit high on the milage, but if it's been kept in good shape
> > and most importanly, had the oil changed regularly, it should
> > be fine. One thing though, 200,000 miles is roughly the time you
> > should replace the timing chain on the I-6 engine.
> >
> > I'd also be checking under the carpet and around the wheel wells,
> > door corners, etc. for rust.
> >
> > --
> > -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
> > HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> > Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> > Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
> >


Mike Romain 12-13-2004 09:05 AM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
Ours has over 300K km on it and I am not worried about the chain. Maybe
it will be time when it turns 500K.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Patrick wrote:
>
> it's the first time i ear about replacing the timing chain, i have close to
> 278,000 Km should i start to think about replacing it? i was sure it was
> getting noisy before it need replacement. it a 600-700 $ job here at the
> stealer i think.... and i would not ask a corner garage mechanic to do it,
> due to bad experience.....
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> a écrit dans le message de news:
> ST4vd.111033$tU4.4583@okepread06...
> > Ralf did pass the time by typing:
> >> Am considering a used '93 Jeep Cherokee with 250,000 miles on it looks
> >> fairly clean and runs good.. they are asking $1400 - any issues I need ti
> >> be
> >> aware of? thanks in advance..rg

> >
> > Bit high on the milage, but if it's been kept in good shape
> > and most importanly, had the oil changed regularly, it should
> > be fine. One thing though, 200,000 miles is roughly the time you
> > should replace the timing chain on the I-6 engine.
> >
> > I'd also be checking under the carpet and around the wheel wells,
> > door corners, etc. for rust.
> >
> > --
> > -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
> > HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> > Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> > Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
> >


Snow 12-13-2004 09:08 AM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
Wow, I have 368,873 km's on my XJ, I got with 170,000 plus on it and unless
the timing chain was done before I got it, it's never been done. I change
the oil about every 5000 km or close to it.

Snow...

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:HW5vd.111042$tU4.66415@okepread06...
> Patrick did pass the time by typing:
> > it's the first time i ear about replacing the timing chain, i have close

to
> > 278,000 Km should i start to think about replacing it? i was sure it was
> > getting noisy before it need replacement. it a 600-700 $ job here at the
> > stealer i think.... and i would not ask a corner garage mechanic to do

it,
> > due to bad experience.....

>
> Most vehicles never make it that far, so it's not listed as a maintenance

item.
>
> 278,000Km == 172,000 Miles
>
> It all depends on how the engine has been maintained and treated. If
> the oil was changed every 3000-5000 miles you probably have 100,000
> more miles in it. If it was abused or overrevved/overheated, then
> less.
>
> The timing chain will make a racket, but don't ignore it for long.
> The I6 is an interference engine. i.e. the pistons can hit the valves
> if the chain breaks. That as they say, is "real ugly".
>
> Cost should run about $185 or so, it's not a difficult job but does take
> some time. The chain is only $15, crankshaft gear $5.99
> Other parts and seals are also fairly inexpensive.
>
> http://www.chryslerpartsdirect.com/moparonline.htm
>
> You would probably be wise to replace the harmonic balancer at that
> point since it has to come off to do the chain. And it also tends to
> wear out. You will know it is wearing when the belt starts squealing
> on humid days, gets worn on the edges, or jumps grooves.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>




Snow 12-13-2004 09:08 AM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
Wow, I have 368,873 km's on my XJ, I got with 170,000 plus on it and unless
the timing chain was done before I got it, it's never been done. I change
the oil about every 5000 km or close to it.

Snow...

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:HW5vd.111042$tU4.66415@okepread06...
> Patrick did pass the time by typing:
> > it's the first time i ear about replacing the timing chain, i have close

to
> > 278,000 Km should i start to think about replacing it? i was sure it was
> > getting noisy before it need replacement. it a 600-700 $ job here at the
> > stealer i think.... and i would not ask a corner garage mechanic to do

it,
> > due to bad experience.....

>
> Most vehicles never make it that far, so it's not listed as a maintenance

item.
>
> 278,000Km == 172,000 Miles
>
> It all depends on how the engine has been maintained and treated. If
> the oil was changed every 3000-5000 miles you probably have 100,000
> more miles in it. If it was abused or overrevved/overheated, then
> less.
>
> The timing chain will make a racket, but don't ignore it for long.
> The I6 is an interference engine. i.e. the pistons can hit the valves
> if the chain breaks. That as they say, is "real ugly".
>
> Cost should run about $185 or so, it's not a difficult job but does take
> some time. The chain is only $15, crankshaft gear $5.99
> Other parts and seals are also fairly inexpensive.
>
> http://www.chryslerpartsdirect.com/moparonline.htm
>
> You would probably be wise to replace the harmonic balancer at that
> point since it has to come off to do the chain. And it also tends to
> wear out. You will know it is wearing when the belt starts squealing
> on humid days, gets worn on the edges, or jumps grooves.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>




Snow 12-13-2004 09:08 AM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
Wow, I have 368,873 km's on my XJ, I got with 170,000 plus on it and unless
the timing chain was done before I got it, it's never been done. I change
the oil about every 5000 km or close to it.

Snow...

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:HW5vd.111042$tU4.66415@okepread06...
> Patrick did pass the time by typing:
> > it's the first time i ear about replacing the timing chain, i have close

to
> > 278,000 Km should i start to think about replacing it? i was sure it was
> > getting noisy before it need replacement. it a 600-700 $ job here at the
> > stealer i think.... and i would not ask a corner garage mechanic to do

it,
> > due to bad experience.....

>
> Most vehicles never make it that far, so it's not listed as a maintenance

item.
>
> 278,000Km == 172,000 Miles
>
> It all depends on how the engine has been maintained and treated. If
> the oil was changed every 3000-5000 miles you probably have 100,000
> more miles in it. If it was abused or overrevved/overheated, then
> less.
>
> The timing chain will make a racket, but don't ignore it for long.
> The I6 is an interference engine. i.e. the pistons can hit the valves
> if the chain breaks. That as they say, is "real ugly".
>
> Cost should run about $185 or so, it's not a difficult job but does take
> some time. The chain is only $15, crankshaft gear $5.99
> Other parts and seals are also fairly inexpensive.
>
> http://www.chryslerpartsdirect.com/moparonline.htm
>
> You would probably be wise to replace the harmonic balancer at that
> point since it has to come off to do the chain. And it also tends to
> wear out. You will know it is wearing when the belt starts squealing
> on humid days, gets worn on the edges, or jumps grooves.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>




DougW 12-13-2004 09:42 AM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
Snow did pass the time by typing:
> Wow, I have 368,873 km's on my XJ, I got with 170,000 plus on it and unless
> the timing chain was done before I got it, it's never been done. I change
> the oil about every 5000 km or close to it.


I'm only going off the "recommended" service life. Not knowing the
engines condition. With routine oil changes the chain could well
last much longer than 200,000 Miles.

Heck, I put over 200,000 Miles on my C-10 rear diff without one fluid change. o_O

--
DougW



DougW 12-13-2004 09:42 AM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
Snow did pass the time by typing:
> Wow, I have 368,873 km's on my XJ, I got with 170,000 plus on it and unless
> the timing chain was done before I got it, it's never been done. I change
> the oil about every 5000 km or close to it.


I'm only going off the "recommended" service life. Not knowing the
engines condition. With routine oil changes the chain could well
last much longer than 200,000 Miles.

Heck, I put over 200,000 Miles on my C-10 rear diff without one fluid change. o_O

--
DougW



DougW 12-13-2004 09:42 AM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
Snow did pass the time by typing:
> Wow, I have 368,873 km's on my XJ, I got with 170,000 plus on it and unless
> the timing chain was done before I got it, it's never been done. I change
> the oil about every 5000 km or close to it.


I'm only going off the "recommended" service life. Not knowing the
engines condition. With routine oil changes the chain could well
last much longer than 200,000 Miles.

Heck, I put over 200,000 Miles on my C-10 rear diff without one fluid change. o_O

--
DougW



SteveBrady 12-13-2004 06:27 PM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
Is that all your milage Mike?


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41BDA1A2.E40952C7@sympatico.ca...
> Ours has over 300K km on it and I am not worried about the chain. Maybe
> it will be time when it turns 500K.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Patrick wrote:
>>
>> it's the first time i ear about replacing the timing chain, i have close
>> to
>> 278,000 Km should i start to think about replacing it? i was sure it was
>> getting noisy before it need replacement. it a 600-700 $ job here at the
>> stealer i think.... and i would not ask a corner garage mechanic to do
>> it,
>> due to bad experience.....
>>
>> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> a écrit dans le message de news:
>> ST4vd.111033$tU4.4583@okepread06...
>> > Ralf did pass the time by typing:
>> >> Am considering a used '93 Jeep Cherokee with 250,000 miles on it
>> >> looks
>> >> fairly clean and runs good.. they are asking $1400 - any issues I need
>> >> ti
>> >> be
>> >> aware of? thanks in advance..rg
>> >
>> > Bit high on the milage, but if it's been kept in good shape
>> > and most importanly, had the oil changed regularly, it should
>> > be fine. One thing though, 200,000 miles is roughly the time you
>> > should replace the timing chain on the I-6 engine.
>> >
>> > I'd also be checking under the carpet and around the wheel wells,
>> > door corners, etc. for rust.
>> >
>> > --
>> > -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
>> > HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
>> > Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
>> > Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>> >




SteveBrady 12-13-2004 06:27 PM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
Is that all your milage Mike?


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41BDA1A2.E40952C7@sympatico.ca...
> Ours has over 300K km on it and I am not worried about the chain. Maybe
> it will be time when it turns 500K.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Patrick wrote:
>>
>> it's the first time i ear about replacing the timing chain, i have close
>> to
>> 278,000 Km should i start to think about replacing it? i was sure it was
>> getting noisy before it need replacement. it a 600-700 $ job here at the
>> stealer i think.... and i would not ask a corner garage mechanic to do
>> it,
>> due to bad experience.....
>>
>> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> a écrit dans le message de news:
>> ST4vd.111033$tU4.4583@okepread06...
>> > Ralf did pass the time by typing:
>> >> Am considering a used '93 Jeep Cherokee with 250,000 miles on it
>> >> looks
>> >> fairly clean and runs good.. they are asking $1400 - any issues I need
>> >> ti
>> >> be
>> >> aware of? thanks in advance..rg
>> >
>> > Bit high on the milage, but if it's been kept in good shape
>> > and most importanly, had the oil changed regularly, it should
>> > be fine. One thing though, 200,000 miles is roughly the time you
>> > should replace the timing chain on the I-6 engine.
>> >
>> > I'd also be checking under the carpet and around the wheel wells,
>> > door corners, etc. for rust.
>> >
>> > --
>> > -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
>> > HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
>> > Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
>> > Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>> >




SteveBrady 12-13-2004 06:27 PM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
Is that all your milage Mike?


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41BDA1A2.E40952C7@sympatico.ca...
> Ours has over 300K km on it and I am not worried about the chain. Maybe
> it will be time when it turns 500K.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Patrick wrote:
>>
>> it's the first time i ear about replacing the timing chain, i have close
>> to
>> 278,000 Km should i start to think about replacing it? i was sure it was
>> getting noisy before it need replacement. it a 600-700 $ job here at the
>> stealer i think.... and i would not ask a corner garage mechanic to do
>> it,
>> due to bad experience.....
>>
>> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> a écrit dans le message de news:
>> ST4vd.111033$tU4.4583@okepread06...
>> > Ralf did pass the time by typing:
>> >> Am considering a used '93 Jeep Cherokee with 250,000 miles on it
>> >> looks
>> >> fairly clean and runs good.. they are asking $1400 - any issues I need
>> >> ti
>> >> be
>> >> aware of? thanks in advance..rg
>> >
>> > Bit high on the milage, but if it's been kept in good shape
>> > and most importanly, had the oil changed regularly, it should
>> > be fine. One thing though, 200,000 miles is roughly the time you
>> > should replace the timing chain on the I-6 engine.
>> >
>> > I'd also be checking under the carpet and around the wheel wells,
>> > door corners, etc. for rust.
>> >
>> > --
>> > -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
>> > HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
>> > Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
>> > Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>> >




Mike Romain 12-13-2004 07:02 PM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
No, we got it around 250K or so. It has been nice to us. We have off
roaded it on some pretty insane trails and it still hangs in there.
Minus a few pieces like the rear bumper end and some trim bits trees
took out, but.... ;-)

The slave is going, so I am going to have to pull the thing apart
soon.... Oh well, it likely is in need of it's first clutch change
too.... (only one previous owner and I have the history)

I have also put about 40K miles on my CJ7.

We have decided we like Jeeps and will likely stick with them. Well, we
will never sell our CJ7, that's for sure, we might upgrade to a newer
Cherokee some day.

Mike

SteveBrady wrote:
>
> Is that all your milage Mike?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:41BDA1A2.E40952C7@sympatico.ca...
> > Ours has over 300K km on it and I am not worried about the chain. Maybe
> > it will be time when it turns 500K.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Patrick wrote:
> >>
> >> it's the first time i ear about replacing the timing chain, i have close
> >> to
> >> 278,000 Km should i start to think about replacing it? i was sure it was
> >> getting noisy before it need replacement. it a 600-700 $ job here at the
> >> stealer i think.... and i would not ask a corner garage mechanic to do
> >> it,
> >> due to bad experience.....
> >>
> >> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> a écrit dans le message de news:
> >> ST4vd.111033$tU4.4583@okepread06...
> >> > Ralf did pass the time by typing:
> >> >> Am considering a used '93 Jeep Cherokee with 250,000 miles on it
> >> >> looks
> >> >> fairly clean and runs good.. they are asking $1400 - any issues I need
> >> >> ti
> >> >> be
> >> >> aware of? thanks in advance..rg
> >> >
> >> > Bit high on the milage, but if it's been kept in good shape
> >> > and most importanly, had the oil changed regularly, it should
> >> > be fine. One thing though, 200,000 miles is roughly the time you
> >> > should replace the timing chain on the I-6 engine.
> >> >
> >> > I'd also be checking under the carpet and around the wheel wells,
> >> > door corners, etc. for rust.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
> >> > HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> >> > Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> >> > Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
> >> >


Mike Romain 12-13-2004 07:02 PM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
No, we got it around 250K or so. It has been nice to us. We have off
roaded it on some pretty insane trails and it still hangs in there.
Minus a few pieces like the rear bumper end and some trim bits trees
took out, but.... ;-)

The slave is going, so I am going to have to pull the thing apart
soon.... Oh well, it likely is in need of it's first clutch change
too.... (only one previous owner and I have the history)

I have also put about 40K miles on my CJ7.

We have decided we like Jeeps and will likely stick with them. Well, we
will never sell our CJ7, that's for sure, we might upgrade to a newer
Cherokee some day.

Mike

SteveBrady wrote:
>
> Is that all your milage Mike?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:41BDA1A2.E40952C7@sympatico.ca...
> > Ours has over 300K km on it and I am not worried about the chain. Maybe
> > it will be time when it turns 500K.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Patrick wrote:
> >>
> >> it's the first time i ear about replacing the timing chain, i have close
> >> to
> >> 278,000 Km should i start to think about replacing it? i was sure it was
> >> getting noisy before it need replacement. it a 600-700 $ job here at the
> >> stealer i think.... and i would not ask a corner garage mechanic to do
> >> it,
> >> due to bad experience.....
> >>
> >> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> a écrit dans le message de news:
> >> ST4vd.111033$tU4.4583@okepread06...
> >> > Ralf did pass the time by typing:
> >> >> Am considering a used '93 Jeep Cherokee with 250,000 miles on it
> >> >> looks
> >> >> fairly clean and runs good.. they are asking $1400 - any issues I need
> >> >> ti
> >> >> be
> >> >> aware of? thanks in advance..rg
> >> >
> >> > Bit high on the milage, but if it's been kept in good shape
> >> > and most importanly, had the oil changed regularly, it should
> >> > be fine. One thing though, 200,000 miles is roughly the time you
> >> > should replace the timing chain on the I-6 engine.
> >> >
> >> > I'd also be checking under the carpet and around the wheel wells,
> >> > door corners, etc. for rust.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
> >> > HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> >> > Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> >> > Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
> >> >


Mike Romain 12-13-2004 07:02 PM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
No, we got it around 250K or so. It has been nice to us. We have off
roaded it on some pretty insane trails and it still hangs in there.
Minus a few pieces like the rear bumper end and some trim bits trees
took out, but.... ;-)

The slave is going, so I am going to have to pull the thing apart
soon.... Oh well, it likely is in need of it's first clutch change
too.... (only one previous owner and I have the history)

I have also put about 40K miles on my CJ7.

We have decided we like Jeeps and will likely stick with them. Well, we
will never sell our CJ7, that's for sure, we might upgrade to a newer
Cherokee some day.

Mike

SteveBrady wrote:
>
> Is that all your milage Mike?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:41BDA1A2.E40952C7@sympatico.ca...
> > Ours has over 300K km on it and I am not worried about the chain. Maybe
> > it will be time when it turns 500K.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Patrick wrote:
> >>
> >> it's the first time i ear about replacing the timing chain, i have close
> >> to
> >> 278,000 Km should i start to think about replacing it? i was sure it was
> >> getting noisy before it need replacement. it a 600-700 $ job here at the
> >> stealer i think.... and i would not ask a corner garage mechanic to do
> >> it,
> >> due to bad experience.....
> >>
> >> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> a écrit dans le message de news:
> >> ST4vd.111033$tU4.4583@okepread06...
> >> > Ralf did pass the time by typing:
> >> >> Am considering a used '93 Jeep Cherokee with 250,000 miles on it
> >> >> looks
> >> >> fairly clean and runs good.. they are asking $1400 - any issues I need
> >> >> ti
> >> >> be
> >> >> aware of? thanks in advance..rg
> >> >
> >> > Bit high on the milage, but if it's been kept in good shape
> >> > and most importanly, had the oil changed regularly, it should
> >> > be fine. One thing though, 200,000 miles is roughly the time you
> >> > should replace the timing chain on the I-6 engine.
> >> >
> >> > I'd also be checking under the carpet and around the wheel wells,
> >> > door corners, etc. for rust.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
> >> > HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> >> > Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> >> > Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
> >> >


SteveBrady 12-13-2004 08:49 PM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
Didn't you say the Duct tape finally gave out on your rear bumper?

I was going to work the other day (south from Barrie on the 400) and some
guy in his Ford had obviously been bombin around cuz he was covered in mud.
I was jealous!
BUT, the guy must've been going pretty hard and careless, cuz his tow hitch
assembley had been partially ripped off.
The whole left side had been sheared at the bolt holes and from the look of
it, there wasn't much more than half holding on the right side.

He blew past me....so hopefully someone stopped him for that thing fell off
and made like one of them 'dam-buster' bombs.

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41BE2D78.5499A866@sympatico.ca...
> No, we got it around 250K or so. It has been nice to us. We have off
> roaded it on some pretty insane trails and it still hangs in there.
> Minus a few pieces like the rear bumper end and some trim bits trees
> took out, but.... ;-)
>
> The slave is going, so I am going to have to pull the thing apart
> soon.... Oh well, it likely is in need of it's first clutch change
> too.... (only one previous owner and I have the history)
>
> I have also put about 40K miles on my CJ7.
>
> We have decided we like Jeeps and will likely stick with them. Well, we
> will never sell our CJ7, that's for sure, we might upgrade to a newer
> Cherokee some day.
>
> Mike
>
> SteveBrady wrote:
>>
>> Is that all your milage Mike?
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:41BDA1A2.E40952C7@sympatico.ca...
>> > Ours has over 300K km on it and I am not worried about the chain.
>> > Maybe
>> > it will be time when it turns 500K.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> > Patrick wrote:
>> >>
>> >> it's the first time i ear about replacing the timing chain, i have
>> >> close
>> >> to
>> >> 278,000 Km should i start to think about replacing it? i was sure it
>> >> was
>> >> getting noisy before it need replacement. it a 600-700 $ job here at
>> >> the
>> >> stealer i think.... and i would not ask a corner garage mechanic to do
>> >> it,
>> >> due to bad experience.....
>> >>
>> >> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> a écrit dans le message de
>> >> news:
>> >> ST4vd.111033$tU4.4583@okepread06...
>> >> > Ralf did pass the time by typing:
>> >> >> Am considering a used '93 Jeep Cherokee with 250,000 miles on it
>> >> >> looks
>> >> >> fairly clean and runs good.. they are asking $1400 - any issues I
>> >> >> need
>> >> >> ti
>> >> >> be
>> >> >> aware of? thanks in advance..rg
>> >> >
>> >> > Bit high on the milage, but if it's been kept in good shape
>> >> > and most importanly, had the oil changed regularly, it should
>> >> > be fine. One thing though, 200,000 miles is roughly the time you
>> >> > should replace the timing chain on the I-6 engine.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'd also be checking under the carpet and around the wheel wells,
>> >> > door corners, etc. for rust.
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0
>> >> > http://members.cox.net/wilsond
>> >> > HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS
>> >> > Shocks
>> >> > Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen
>> >> > Rotors
>> >> > Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>> >> >




SteveBrady 12-13-2004 08:49 PM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
Didn't you say the Duct tape finally gave out on your rear bumper?

I was going to work the other day (south from Barrie on the 400) and some
guy in his Ford had obviously been bombin around cuz he was covered in mud.
I was jealous!
BUT, the guy must've been going pretty hard and careless, cuz his tow hitch
assembley had been partially ripped off.
The whole left side had been sheared at the bolt holes and from the look of
it, there wasn't much more than half holding on the right side.

He blew past me....so hopefully someone stopped him for that thing fell off
and made like one of them 'dam-buster' bombs.

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41BE2D78.5499A866@sympatico.ca...
> No, we got it around 250K or so. It has been nice to us. We have off
> roaded it on some pretty insane trails and it still hangs in there.
> Minus a few pieces like the rear bumper end and some trim bits trees
> took out, but.... ;-)
>
> The slave is going, so I am going to have to pull the thing apart
> soon.... Oh well, it likely is in need of it's first clutch change
> too.... (only one previous owner and I have the history)
>
> I have also put about 40K miles on my CJ7.
>
> We have decided we like Jeeps and will likely stick with them. Well, we
> will never sell our CJ7, that's for sure, we might upgrade to a newer
> Cherokee some day.
>
> Mike
>
> SteveBrady wrote:
>>
>> Is that all your milage Mike?
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:41BDA1A2.E40952C7@sympatico.ca...
>> > Ours has over 300K km on it and I am not worried about the chain.
>> > Maybe
>> > it will be time when it turns 500K.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> > Patrick wrote:
>> >>
>> >> it's the first time i ear about replacing the timing chain, i have
>> >> close
>> >> to
>> >> 278,000 Km should i start to think about replacing it? i was sure it
>> >> was
>> >> getting noisy before it need replacement. it a 600-700 $ job here at
>> >> the
>> >> stealer i think.... and i would not ask a corner garage mechanic to do
>> >> it,
>> >> due to bad experience.....
>> >>
>> >> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> a écrit dans le message de
>> >> news:
>> >> ST4vd.111033$tU4.4583@okepread06...
>> >> > Ralf did pass the time by typing:
>> >> >> Am considering a used '93 Jeep Cherokee with 250,000 miles on it
>> >> >> looks
>> >> >> fairly clean and runs good.. they are asking $1400 - any issues I
>> >> >> need
>> >> >> ti
>> >> >> be
>> >> >> aware of? thanks in advance..rg
>> >> >
>> >> > Bit high on the milage, but if it's been kept in good shape
>> >> > and most importanly, had the oil changed regularly, it should
>> >> > be fine. One thing though, 200,000 miles is roughly the time you
>> >> > should replace the timing chain on the I-6 engine.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'd also be checking under the carpet and around the wheel wells,
>> >> > door corners, etc. for rust.
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0
>> >> > http://members.cox.net/wilsond
>> >> > HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS
>> >> > Shocks
>> >> > Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen
>> >> > Rotors
>> >> > Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>> >> >




SteveBrady 12-13-2004 08:49 PM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
Didn't you say the Duct tape finally gave out on your rear bumper?

I was going to work the other day (south from Barrie on the 400) and some
guy in his Ford had obviously been bombin around cuz he was covered in mud.
I was jealous!
BUT, the guy must've been going pretty hard and careless, cuz his tow hitch
assembley had been partially ripped off.
The whole left side had been sheared at the bolt holes and from the look of
it, there wasn't much more than half holding on the right side.

He blew past me....so hopefully someone stopped him for that thing fell off
and made like one of them 'dam-buster' bombs.

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41BE2D78.5499A866@sympatico.ca...
> No, we got it around 250K or so. It has been nice to us. We have off
> roaded it on some pretty insane trails and it still hangs in there.
> Minus a few pieces like the rear bumper end and some trim bits trees
> took out, but.... ;-)
>
> The slave is going, so I am going to have to pull the thing apart
> soon.... Oh well, it likely is in need of it's first clutch change
> too.... (only one previous owner and I have the history)
>
> I have also put about 40K miles on my CJ7.
>
> We have decided we like Jeeps and will likely stick with them. Well, we
> will never sell our CJ7, that's for sure, we might upgrade to a newer
> Cherokee some day.
>
> Mike
>
> SteveBrady wrote:
>>
>> Is that all your milage Mike?
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:41BDA1A2.E40952C7@sympatico.ca...
>> > Ours has over 300K km on it and I am not worried about the chain.
>> > Maybe
>> > it will be time when it turns 500K.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> > Patrick wrote:
>> >>
>> >> it's the first time i ear about replacing the timing chain, i have
>> >> close
>> >> to
>> >> 278,000 Km should i start to think about replacing it? i was sure it
>> >> was
>> >> getting noisy before it need replacement. it a 600-700 $ job here at
>> >> the
>> >> stealer i think.... and i would not ask a corner garage mechanic to do
>> >> it,
>> >> due to bad experience.....
>> >>
>> >> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> a écrit dans le message de
>> >> news:
>> >> ST4vd.111033$tU4.4583@okepread06...
>> >> > Ralf did pass the time by typing:
>> >> >> Am considering a used '93 Jeep Cherokee with 250,000 miles on it
>> >> >> looks
>> >> >> fairly clean and runs good.. they are asking $1400 - any issues I
>> >> >> need
>> >> >> ti
>> >> >> be
>> >> >> aware of? thanks in advance..rg
>> >> >
>> >> > Bit high on the milage, but if it's been kept in good shape
>> >> > and most importanly, had the oil changed regularly, it should
>> >> > be fine. One thing though, 200,000 miles is roughly the time you
>> >> > should replace the timing chain on the I-6 engine.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'd also be checking under the carpet and around the wheel wells,
>> >> > door corners, etc. for rust.
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0
>> >> > http://members.cox.net/wilsond
>> >> > HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS
>> >> > Shocks
>> >> > Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen
>> >> > Rotors
>> >> > Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>> >> >




Mike Romain 12-13-2004 09:20 PM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
LOL!

No, it 'only looked like a little' puddle kinda trip in a whole bunch of
shallow ones at midnight in the middle of nowhere. Sicker was a 3' deep
washout.... The drop took off the bumper end. Good thing
Snowboardripper was right behind me with his TJ and winch, there was no
going forward or around me on that trail into the camp. We had to go
back around another way.

Got photos....

Mike

SteveBrady wrote:
>
> Didn't you say the Duct tape finally gave out on your rear bumper?
>
> I was going to work the other day (south from Barrie on the 400) and some
> guy in his Ford had obviously been bombin around cuz he was covered in mud.
> I was jealous!
> BUT, the guy must've been going pretty hard and careless, cuz his tow hitch
> assembley had been partially ripped off.
> The whole left side had been sheared at the bolt holes and from the look of
> it, there wasn't much more than half holding on the right side.
>
> He blew past me....so hopefully someone stopped him for that thing fell off
> and made like one of them 'dam-buster' bombs.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:41BE2D78.5499A866@sympatico.ca...
> > No, we got it around 250K or so. It has been nice to us. We have off
> > roaded it on some pretty insane trails and it still hangs in there.
> > Minus a few pieces like the rear bumper end and some trim bits trees
> > took out, but.... ;-)
> >
> > The slave is going, so I am going to have to pull the thing apart
> > soon.... Oh well, it likely is in need of it's first clutch change
> > too.... (only one previous owner and I have the history)
> >
> > I have also put about 40K miles on my CJ7.
> >
> > We have decided we like Jeeps and will likely stick with them. Well, we
> > will never sell our CJ7, that's for sure, we might upgrade to a newer
> > Cherokee some day.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > SteveBrady wrote:
> >>
> >> Is that all your milage Mike?
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:41BDA1A2.E40952C7@sympatico.ca...
> >> > Ours has over 300K km on it and I am not worried about the chain.
> >> > Maybe
> >> > it will be time when it turns 500K.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >
> >> > Patrick wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> it's the first time i ear about replacing the timing chain, i have
> >> >> close
> >> >> to
> >> >> 278,000 Km should i start to think about replacing it? i was sure it
> >> >> was
> >> >> getting noisy before it need replacement. it a 600-700 $ job here at
> >> >> the
> >> >> stealer i think.... and i would not ask a corner garage mechanic to do
> >> >> it,
> >> >> due to bad experience.....
> >> >>
> >> >> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> a écrit dans le message de
> >> >> news:
> >> >> ST4vd.111033$tU4.4583@okepread06...
> >> >> > Ralf did pass the time by typing:
> >> >> >> Am considering a used '93 Jeep Cherokee with 250,000 miles on it
> >> >> >> looks
> >> >> >> fairly clean and runs good.. they are asking $1400 - any issues I
> >> >> >> need
> >> >> >> ti
> >> >> >> be
> >> >> >> aware of? thanks in advance..rg
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Bit high on the milage, but if it's been kept in good shape
> >> >> > and most importanly, had the oil changed regularly, it should
> >> >> > be fine. One thing though, 200,000 miles is roughly the time you
> >> >> > should replace the timing chain on the I-6 engine.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I'd also be checking under the carpet and around the wheel wells,
> >> >> > door corners, etc. for rust.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0
> >> >> > http://members.cox.net/wilsond
> >> >> > HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS
> >> >> > Shocks
> >> >> > Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen
> >> >> > Rotors
> >> >> > Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
> >> >> >


Mike Romain 12-13-2004 09:20 PM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
LOL!

No, it 'only looked like a little' puddle kinda trip in a whole bunch of
shallow ones at midnight in the middle of nowhere. Sicker was a 3' deep
washout.... The drop took off the bumper end. Good thing
Snowboardripper was right behind me with his TJ and winch, there was no
going forward or around me on that trail into the camp. We had to go
back around another way.

Got photos....

Mike

SteveBrady wrote:
>
> Didn't you say the Duct tape finally gave out on your rear bumper?
>
> I was going to work the other day (south from Barrie on the 400) and some
> guy in his Ford had obviously been bombin around cuz he was covered in mud.
> I was jealous!
> BUT, the guy must've been going pretty hard and careless, cuz his tow hitch
> assembley had been partially ripped off.
> The whole left side had been sheared at the bolt holes and from the look of
> it, there wasn't much more than half holding on the right side.
>
> He blew past me....so hopefully someone stopped him for that thing fell off
> and made like one of them 'dam-buster' bombs.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:41BE2D78.5499A866@sympatico.ca...
> > No, we got it around 250K or so. It has been nice to us. We have off
> > roaded it on some pretty insane trails and it still hangs in there.
> > Minus a few pieces like the rear bumper end and some trim bits trees
> > took out, but.... ;-)
> >
> > The slave is going, so I am going to have to pull the thing apart
> > soon.... Oh well, it likely is in need of it's first clutch change
> > too.... (only one previous owner and I have the history)
> >
> > I have also put about 40K miles on my CJ7.
> >
> > We have decided we like Jeeps and will likely stick with them. Well, we
> > will never sell our CJ7, that's for sure, we might upgrade to a newer
> > Cherokee some day.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > SteveBrady wrote:
> >>
> >> Is that all your milage Mike?
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:41BDA1A2.E40952C7@sympatico.ca...
> >> > Ours has over 300K km on it and I am not worried about the chain.
> >> > Maybe
> >> > it will be time when it turns 500K.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >
> >> > Patrick wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> it's the first time i ear about replacing the timing chain, i have
> >> >> close
> >> >> to
> >> >> 278,000 Km should i start to think about replacing it? i was sure it
> >> >> was
> >> >> getting noisy before it need replacement. it a 600-700 $ job here at
> >> >> the
> >> >> stealer i think.... and i would not ask a corner garage mechanic to do
> >> >> it,
> >> >> due to bad experience.....
> >> >>
> >> >> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> a écrit dans le message de
> >> >> news:
> >> >> ST4vd.111033$tU4.4583@okepread06...
> >> >> > Ralf did pass the time by typing:
> >> >> >> Am considering a used '93 Jeep Cherokee with 250,000 miles on it
> >> >> >> looks
> >> >> >> fairly clean and runs good.. they are asking $1400 - any issues I
> >> >> >> need
> >> >> >> ti
> >> >> >> be
> >> >> >> aware of? thanks in advance..rg
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Bit high on the milage, but if it's been kept in good shape
> >> >> > and most importanly, had the oil changed regularly, it should
> >> >> > be fine. One thing though, 200,000 miles is roughly the time you
> >> >> > should replace the timing chain on the I-6 engine.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I'd also be checking under the carpet and around the wheel wells,
> >> >> > door corners, etc. for rust.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0
> >> >> > http://members.cox.net/wilsond
> >> >> > HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS
> >> >> > Shocks
> >> >> > Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen
> >> >> > Rotors
> >> >> > Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
> >> >> >


Mike Romain 12-13-2004 09:20 PM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
LOL!

No, it 'only looked like a little' puddle kinda trip in a whole bunch of
shallow ones at midnight in the middle of nowhere. Sicker was a 3' deep
washout.... The drop took off the bumper end. Good thing
Snowboardripper was right behind me with his TJ and winch, there was no
going forward or around me on that trail into the camp. We had to go
back around another way.

Got photos....

Mike

SteveBrady wrote:
>
> Didn't you say the Duct tape finally gave out on your rear bumper?
>
> I was going to work the other day (south from Barrie on the 400) and some
> guy in his Ford had obviously been bombin around cuz he was covered in mud.
> I was jealous!
> BUT, the guy must've been going pretty hard and careless, cuz his tow hitch
> assembley had been partially ripped off.
> The whole left side had been sheared at the bolt holes and from the look of
> it, there wasn't much more than half holding on the right side.
>
> He blew past me....so hopefully someone stopped him for that thing fell off
> and made like one of them 'dam-buster' bombs.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:41BE2D78.5499A866@sympatico.ca...
> > No, we got it around 250K or so. It has been nice to us. We have off
> > roaded it on some pretty insane trails and it still hangs in there.
> > Minus a few pieces like the rear bumper end and some trim bits trees
> > took out, but.... ;-)
> >
> > The slave is going, so I am going to have to pull the thing apart
> > soon.... Oh well, it likely is in need of it's first clutch change
> > too.... (only one previous owner and I have the history)
> >
> > I have also put about 40K miles on my CJ7.
> >
> > We have decided we like Jeeps and will likely stick with them. Well, we
> > will never sell our CJ7, that's for sure, we might upgrade to a newer
> > Cherokee some day.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > SteveBrady wrote:
> >>
> >> Is that all your milage Mike?
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:41BDA1A2.E40952C7@sympatico.ca...
> >> > Ours has over 300K km on it and I am not worried about the chain.
> >> > Maybe
> >> > it will be time when it turns 500K.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >
> >> > Patrick wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> it's the first time i ear about replacing the timing chain, i have
> >> >> close
> >> >> to
> >> >> 278,000 Km should i start to think about replacing it? i was sure it
> >> >> was
> >> >> getting noisy before it need replacement. it a 600-700 $ job here at
> >> >> the
> >> >> stealer i think.... and i would not ask a corner garage mechanic to do
> >> >> it,
> >> >> due to bad experience.....
> >> >>
> >> >> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> a écrit dans le message de
> >> >> news:
> >> >> ST4vd.111033$tU4.4583@okepread06...
> >> >> > Ralf did pass the time by typing:
> >> >> >> Am considering a used '93 Jeep Cherokee with 250,000 miles on it
> >> >> >> looks
> >> >> >> fairly clean and runs good.. they are asking $1400 - any issues I
> >> >> >> need
> >> >> >> ti
> >> >> >> be
> >> >> >> aware of? thanks in advance..rg
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Bit high on the milage, but if it's been kept in good shape
> >> >> > and most importanly, had the oil changed regularly, it should
> >> >> > be fine. One thing though, 200,000 miles is roughly the time you
> >> >> > should replace the timing chain on the I-6 engine.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I'd also be checking under the carpet and around the wheel wells,
> >> >> > door corners, etc. for rust.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0
> >> >> > http://members.cox.net/wilsond
> >> >> > HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS
> >> >> > Shocks
> >> >> > Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen
> >> >> > Rotors
> >> >> > Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
> >> >> >


Kevin in San Diego 12-13-2004 10:42 PM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
Really? Dang I thought that timing chain was a lifer.
KH

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:ST4vd.111033$tU4.4583@okepread06...
> Ralf did pass the time by typing:
>> Am considering a used '93 Jeep Cherokee with 250,000 miles on it looks
>> fairly clean and runs good.. they are asking $1400 - any issues I need ti
>> be
>> aware of? thanks in advance..rg

>
> Bit high on the milage, but if it's been kept in good shape
> and most importanly, had the oil changed regularly, it should
> be fine. One thing though, 200,000 miles is roughly the time you
> should replace the timing chain on the I-6 engine.
>
> I'd also be checking under the carpet and around the wheel wells,
> door corners, etc. for rust.
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>




Kevin in San Diego 12-13-2004 10:42 PM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
Really? Dang I thought that timing chain was a lifer.
KH

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:ST4vd.111033$tU4.4583@okepread06...
> Ralf did pass the time by typing:
>> Am considering a used '93 Jeep Cherokee with 250,000 miles on it looks
>> fairly clean and runs good.. they are asking $1400 - any issues I need ti
>> be
>> aware of? thanks in advance..rg

>
> Bit high on the milage, but if it's been kept in good shape
> and most importanly, had the oil changed regularly, it should
> be fine. One thing though, 200,000 miles is roughly the time you
> should replace the timing chain on the I-6 engine.
>
> I'd also be checking under the carpet and around the wheel wells,
> door corners, etc. for rust.
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>




Kevin in San Diego 12-13-2004 10:42 PM

Re: 93 Jeep Cherokee
 
Really? Dang I thought that timing chain was a lifer.
KH

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:ST4vd.111033$tU4.4583@okepread06...
> Ralf did pass the time by typing:
>> Am considering a used '93 Jeep Cherokee with 250,000 miles on it looks
>> fairly clean and runs good.. they are asking $1400 - any issues I need ti
>> be
>> aware of? thanks in advance..rg

>
> Bit high on the milage, but if it's been kept in good shape
> and most importanly, had the oil changed regularly, it should
> be fine. One thing though, 200,000 miles is roughly the time you
> should replace the timing chain on the I-6 engine.
>
> I'd also be checking under the carpet and around the wheel wells,
> door corners, etc. for rust.
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>





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