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93 Cherokee
I have a 93 Cherokee with the Command Trac system, I was wondering if there
was anyway I could make the 4x4 full time instead of part time (like I want traction to both front wheels instead of one) |
Re: 93 Cherokee
Put a locker in the front differential.
abomb69 wrote: > I have a 93 Cherokee with the Command Trac system, I was wondering if there > was anyway I could make the 4x4 full time instead of part time (like I want > traction to both front wheels instead of one) |
Re: 93 Cherokee
Put a locker in the front differential.
abomb69 wrote: > I have a 93 Cherokee with the Command Trac system, I was wondering if there > was anyway I could make the 4x4 full time instead of part time (like I want > traction to both front wheels instead of one) |
Re: 93 Cherokee
Put a locker in the front differential.
abomb69 wrote: > I have a 93 Cherokee with the Command Trac system, I was wondering if there > was anyway I could make the 4x4 full time instead of part time (like I want > traction to both front wheels instead of one) |
Re: 93 Cherokee
Bad idea if you are trying to get better traction on the street. Full-time
4x4 is when you can engage the front and rear axle on the street. This is not possible with your transfer case. If you are just searching for better traction off road, and want both front wheels to drive, get the front locker. Please be aware that this will make steering in 4hi and 4lo very difficult. Carl "The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1171738794.306139.143550@a75g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com... > Put a locker in the front differential. > > abomb69 wrote: >> I have a 93 Cherokee with the Command Trac system, I was wondering if >> there >> was anyway I could make the 4x4 full time instead of part time (like I >> want >> traction to both front wheels instead of one) > |
Re: 93 Cherokee
Bad idea if you are trying to get better traction on the street. Full-time
4x4 is when you can engage the front and rear axle on the street. This is not possible with your transfer case. If you are just searching for better traction off road, and want both front wheels to drive, get the front locker. Please be aware that this will make steering in 4hi and 4lo very difficult. Carl "The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1171738794.306139.143550@a75g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com... > Put a locker in the front differential. > > abomb69 wrote: >> I have a 93 Cherokee with the Command Trac system, I was wondering if >> there >> was anyway I could make the 4x4 full time instead of part time (like I >> want >> traction to both front wheels instead of one) > |
Re: 93 Cherokee
Bad idea if you are trying to get better traction on the street. Full-time
4x4 is when you can engage the front and rear axle on the street. This is not possible with your transfer case. If you are just searching for better traction off road, and want both front wheels to drive, get the front locker. Please be aware that this will make steering in 4hi and 4lo very difficult. Carl "The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1171738794.306139.143550@a75g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com... > Put a locker in the front differential. > > abomb69 wrote: >> I have a 93 Cherokee with the Command Trac system, I was wondering if >> there >> was anyway I could make the 4x4 full time instead of part time (like I >> want >> traction to both front wheels instead of one) > |
Re: 93 Cherokee
You would need to swap in a nv242 SelecTrac Transfer case.
It was optional in '93 so if you find a donor all the parts should bolt up. "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message news:bbIBh.63626$wc5.56094@newssvr25.news.prodigy. net... >I have a 93 Cherokee with the Command Trac system, I was wondering if there >was anyway I could make the 4x4 full time instead of part time (like I want >traction to both front wheels instead of one) > > |
Re: 93 Cherokee
You would need to swap in a nv242 SelecTrac Transfer case.
It was optional in '93 so if you find a donor all the parts should bolt up. "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message news:bbIBh.63626$wc5.56094@newssvr25.news.prodigy. net... >I have a 93 Cherokee with the Command Trac system, I was wondering if there >was anyway I could make the 4x4 full time instead of part time (like I want >traction to both front wheels instead of one) > > |
Re: 93 Cherokee
You would need to swap in a nv242 SelecTrac Transfer case.
It was optional in '93 so if you find a donor all the parts should bolt up. "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message news:bbIBh.63626$wc5.56094@newssvr25.news.prodigy. net... >I have a 93 Cherokee with the Command Trac system, I was wondering if there >was anyway I could make the 4x4 full time instead of part time (like I want >traction to both front wheels instead of one) > > |
Re: 93 Cherokee
Good luck finding a donor in the salvage yards. I am having enough trouble
finding a rear door. "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:9a7f4$45d769f2$422afc51$20126@FUSE.NET... > You would need to swap in a nv242 SelecTrac Transfer case. > > It was optional in '93 so if you find a donor all the parts should bolt > up. > > > "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:bbIBh.63626$wc5.56094@newssvr25.news.prodigy. net... >>I have a 93 Cherokee with the Command Trac system, I was wondering if >>there was anyway I could make the 4x4 full time instead of part time (like >>I want traction to both front wheels instead of one) >> >> > > |
Re: 93 Cherokee
Good luck finding a donor in the salvage yards. I am having enough trouble
finding a rear door. "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:9a7f4$45d769f2$422afc51$20126@FUSE.NET... > You would need to swap in a nv242 SelecTrac Transfer case. > > It was optional in '93 so if you find a donor all the parts should bolt > up. > > > "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:bbIBh.63626$wc5.56094@newssvr25.news.prodigy. net... >>I have a 93 Cherokee with the Command Trac system, I was wondering if >>there was anyway I could make the 4x4 full time instead of part time (like >>I want traction to both front wheels instead of one) >> >> > > |
Re: 93 Cherokee
Good luck finding a donor in the salvage yards. I am having enough trouble
finding a rear door. "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:9a7f4$45d769f2$422afc51$20126@FUSE.NET... > You would need to swap in a nv242 SelecTrac Transfer case. > > It was optional in '93 so if you find a donor all the parts should bolt > up. > > > "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:bbIBh.63626$wc5.56094@newssvr25.news.prodigy. net... >>I have a 93 Cherokee with the Command Trac system, I was wondering if >>there was anyway I could make the 4x4 full time instead of part time (like >>I want traction to both front wheels instead of one) >> >> > > |
Re: 93 Cherokee
It is the full time 4X4 that won't move if one wheel loses traction.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message news:bbIBh.63626$wc5.56094@newssvr25.news.prodigy. net... > I have a 93 Cherokee with the Command Trac system, I was wondering if there > was anyway I could make the 4x4 full time instead of part time (like I want > traction to both front wheels instead of one) > > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: 93 Cherokee
It is the full time 4X4 that won't move if one wheel loses traction.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message news:bbIBh.63626$wc5.56094@newssvr25.news.prodigy. net... > I have a 93 Cherokee with the Command Trac system, I was wondering if there > was anyway I could make the 4x4 full time instead of part time (like I want > traction to both front wheels instead of one) > > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: 93 Cherokee
It is the full time 4X4 that won't move if one wheel loses traction.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message news:bbIBh.63626$wc5.56094@newssvr25.news.prodigy. net... > I have a 93 Cherokee with the Command Trac system, I was wondering if there > was anyway I could make the 4x4 full time instead of part time (like I want > traction to both front wheels instead of one) > > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: 93 Cherokee
But in true 4x4, all four wheels have power all at the same time, not just 2
wheels. "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:45d7a150$0$16355$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > It is the full time 4X4 that won't move if one wheel loses traction. > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:bbIBh.63626$wc5.56094@newssvr25.news.prodigy. net... >> I have a 93 Cherokee with the Command Trac system, I was wondering if > there >> was anyway I could make the 4x4 full time instead of part time (like I > want >> traction to both front wheels instead of one) >> >> > > > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > |
Re: 93 Cherokee
But in true 4x4, all four wheels have power all at the same time, not just 2
wheels. "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:45d7a150$0$16355$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > It is the full time 4X4 that won't move if one wheel loses traction. > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:bbIBh.63626$wc5.56094@newssvr25.news.prodigy. net... >> I have a 93 Cherokee with the Command Trac system, I was wondering if > there >> was anyway I could make the 4x4 full time instead of part time (like I > want >> traction to both front wheels instead of one) >> >> > > > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > |
Re: 93 Cherokee
But in true 4x4, all four wheels have power all at the same time, not just 2
wheels. "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:45d7a150$0$16355$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > It is the full time 4X4 that won't move if one wheel loses traction. > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:bbIBh.63626$wc5.56094@newssvr25.news.prodigy. net... >> I have a 93 Cherokee with the Command Trac system, I was wondering if > there >> was anyway I could make the 4x4 full time instead of part time (like I > want >> traction to both front wheels instead of one) >> >> > > > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > |
Re: 93 Cherokee
That's both driveshaft turn in part time 4X4 unlike your transfer that has a
differential in it that may be locked in low range. The ways we get all the wheels to turn: http://www.----------.com/differential.htm God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message news:hiOBh.19751$ji1.9922@newssvr12.news.prodigy.n et... > But in true 4x4, all four wheels have power all at the same time, not just 2 > wheels. > > > "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:45d7a150$0$16355$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > > It is the full time 4X4 that won't move if one wheel loses traction. > > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message > > news:bbIBh.63626$wc5.56094@newssvr25.news.prodigy. net... > >> I have a 93 Cherokee with the Command Trac system, I was wondering if > > there > >> was anyway I could make the 4x4 full time instead of part time (like I > > want > >> traction to both front wheels instead of one) > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > > > > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: 93 Cherokee
That's both driveshaft turn in part time 4X4 unlike your transfer that has a
differential in it that may be locked in low range. The ways we get all the wheels to turn: http://www.----------.com/differential.htm God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message news:hiOBh.19751$ji1.9922@newssvr12.news.prodigy.n et... > But in true 4x4, all four wheels have power all at the same time, not just 2 > wheels. > > > "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:45d7a150$0$16355$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > > It is the full time 4X4 that won't move if one wheel loses traction. > > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message > > news:bbIBh.63626$wc5.56094@newssvr25.news.prodigy. net... > >> I have a 93 Cherokee with the Command Trac system, I was wondering if > > there > >> was anyway I could make the 4x4 full time instead of part time (like I > > want > >> traction to both front wheels instead of one) > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > > > > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: 93 Cherokee
That's both driveshaft turn in part time 4X4 unlike your transfer that has a
differential in it that may be locked in low range. The ways we get all the wheels to turn: http://www.----------.com/differential.htm God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message news:hiOBh.19751$ji1.9922@newssvr12.news.prodigy.n et... > But in true 4x4, all four wheels have power all at the same time, not just 2 > wheels. > > > "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:45d7a150$0$16355$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > > It is the full time 4X4 that won't move if one wheel loses traction. > > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message > > news:bbIBh.63626$wc5.56094@newssvr25.news.prodigy. net... > >> I have a 93 Cherokee with the Command Trac system, I was wondering if > > there > >> was anyway I could make the 4x4 full time instead of part time (like I > > want > >> traction to both front wheels instead of one) > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > > > > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: 93 Cherokee
You would need locked differentials, but then you couldn't drive on
hard surfaces. ---- On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 01:51:09 GMT, "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote: >But in true 4x4, all four wheels have power all at the same time, not just 2 >wheels. > > >"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >news:45d7a150$0$16355$88260bb3@free.teranews.com. .. >> It is the full time 4X4 that won't move if one wheel loses traction. >> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >> "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message >> news:bbIBh.63626$wc5.56094@newssvr25.news.prodigy. net... >>> I have a 93 Cherokee with the Command Trac system, I was wondering if >> there >>> was anyway I could make the 4x4 full time instead of part time (like I >> want >>> traction to both front wheels instead of one) >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >> > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: 93 Cherokee
You would need locked differentials, but then you couldn't drive on
hard surfaces. ---- On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 01:51:09 GMT, "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote: >But in true 4x4, all four wheels have power all at the same time, not just 2 >wheels. > > >"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >news:45d7a150$0$16355$88260bb3@free.teranews.com. .. >> It is the full time 4X4 that won't move if one wheel loses traction. >> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >> "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message >> news:bbIBh.63626$wc5.56094@newssvr25.news.prodigy. net... >>> I have a 93 Cherokee with the Command Trac system, I was wondering if >> there >>> was anyway I could make the 4x4 full time instead of part time (like I >> want >>> traction to both front wheels instead of one) >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >> > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: 93 Cherokee
You would need locked differentials, but then you couldn't drive on
hard surfaces. ---- On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 01:51:09 GMT, "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote: >But in true 4x4, all four wheels have power all at the same time, not just 2 >wheels. > > >"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >news:45d7a150$0$16355$88260bb3@free.teranews.com. .. >> It is the full time 4X4 that won't move if one wheel loses traction. >> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >> "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message >> news:bbIBh.63626$wc5.56094@newssvr25.news.prodigy. net... >>> I have a 93 Cherokee with the Command Trac system, I was wondering if >> there >>> was anyway I could make the 4x4 full time instead of part time (like I >> want >>> traction to both front wheels instead of one) >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >> > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: 93 Cherokee
So you are saying that in 4Lo, all four wheels are locked in?
"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:45d7aaf5$0$16311$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > That's both driveshaft turn in part time 4X4 unlike your transfer that has > a > differential in it that may be locked in low range. The ways we get all > the > wheels to turn: http://www.----------.com/differential.htm > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 |
Re: 93 Cherokee
So you are saying that in 4Lo, all four wheels are locked in?
"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:45d7aaf5$0$16311$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > That's both driveshaft turn in part time 4X4 unlike your transfer that has > a > differential in it that may be locked in low range. The ways we get all > the > wheels to turn: http://www.----------.com/differential.htm > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 |
Re: 93 Cherokee
So you are saying that in 4Lo, all four wheels are locked in?
"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:45d7aaf5$0$16311$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > That's both driveshaft turn in part time 4X4 unlike your transfer that has > a > differential in it that may be locked in low range. The ways we get all > the > wheels to turn: http://www.----------.com/differential.htm > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 |
Re: 93 Cherokee
In 4lo or 4hi the front and rear axles are locked together. If you have
lockers front and back then all four wheels will be locked in, sort of. If you try to turn the outside wheels will free wheel or the inside ones will skid. If you have one of those full time rigs, then in 4lo, if you have it, the same applies. If all four wheels were actually locked together, then the only direction you would be able to go, is straight ahead. Earle "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message news:KePBh.6309$MN.5170@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net ... > So you are saying that in 4Lo, all four wheels are locked in? > > > "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:45d7aaf5$0$16311$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > > That's both driveshaft turn in part time 4X4 unlike your transfer that has > > a > > differential in it that may be locked in low range. The ways we get all > > the > > wheels to turn: http://www.----------.com/differential.htm > > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 > > |
Re: 93 Cherokee
In 4lo or 4hi the front and rear axles are locked together. If you have
lockers front and back then all four wheels will be locked in, sort of. If you try to turn the outside wheels will free wheel or the inside ones will skid. If you have one of those full time rigs, then in 4lo, if you have it, the same applies. If all four wheels were actually locked together, then the only direction you would be able to go, is straight ahead. Earle "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message news:KePBh.6309$MN.5170@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net ... > So you are saying that in 4Lo, all four wheels are locked in? > > > "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:45d7aaf5$0$16311$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > > That's both driveshaft turn in part time 4X4 unlike your transfer that has > > a > > differential in it that may be locked in low range. The ways we get all > > the > > wheels to turn: http://www.----------.com/differential.htm > > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 > > |
Re: 93 Cherokee
In 4lo or 4hi the front and rear axles are locked together. If you have
lockers front and back then all four wheels will be locked in, sort of. If you try to turn the outside wheels will free wheel or the inside ones will skid. If you have one of those full time rigs, then in 4lo, if you have it, the same applies. If all four wheels were actually locked together, then the only direction you would be able to go, is straight ahead. Earle "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message news:KePBh.6309$MN.5170@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net ... > So you are saying that in 4Lo, all four wheels are locked in? > > > "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:45d7aaf5$0$16311$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > > That's both driveshaft turn in part time 4X4 unlike your transfer that has > > a > > differential in it that may be locked in low range. The ways we get all > > the > > wheels to turn: http://www.----------.com/differential.htm > > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 > > |
Re: 93 Cherokee
I know that you can go more than straight a friend of mine has a 77 chevy
with the 203 transfer case, the one that DOESNT shift out of 4hi and you have total traction to all 4 wheels (yes this isnt good in the summer on pavement either, it does make noise when turning) "Earle Horton" <gracioso@usa.com> wrote in message news:45d7cbb4$0$2161$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m... > In 4lo or 4hi the front and rear axles are locked together. If you have > lockers front and back then all four wheels will be locked in, sort of. > If > you try to turn the outside wheels will free wheel or the inside ones will > skid. If you have one of those full time rigs, then in 4lo, if you have > it, > the same applies. If all four wheels were actually locked together, then > the only direction you would be able to go, is straight ahead. > > Earle > > "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:KePBh.6309$MN.5170@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net ... >> So you are saying that in 4Lo, all four wheels are locked in? >> >> >> "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >> news:45d7aaf5$0$16311$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . >> > That's both driveshaft turn in part time 4X4 unlike your transfer that > has >> > a >> > differential in it that may be locked in low range. The ways we get all >> > the >> > wheels to turn: http://www.----------.com/differential.htm >> > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 >> >> > > |
Re: 93 Cherokee
I know that you can go more than straight a friend of mine has a 77 chevy
with the 203 transfer case, the one that DOESNT shift out of 4hi and you have total traction to all 4 wheels (yes this isnt good in the summer on pavement either, it does make noise when turning) "Earle Horton" <gracioso@usa.com> wrote in message news:45d7cbb4$0$2161$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m... > In 4lo or 4hi the front and rear axles are locked together. If you have > lockers front and back then all four wheels will be locked in, sort of. > If > you try to turn the outside wheels will free wheel or the inside ones will > skid. If you have one of those full time rigs, then in 4lo, if you have > it, > the same applies. If all four wheels were actually locked together, then > the only direction you would be able to go, is straight ahead. > > Earle > > "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:KePBh.6309$MN.5170@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net ... >> So you are saying that in 4Lo, all four wheels are locked in? >> >> >> "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >> news:45d7aaf5$0$16311$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . >> > That's both driveshaft turn in part time 4X4 unlike your transfer that > has >> > a >> > differential in it that may be locked in low range. The ways we get all >> > the >> > wheels to turn: http://www.----------.com/differential.htm >> > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 >> >> > > |
Re: 93 Cherokee
I know that you can go more than straight a friend of mine has a 77 chevy
with the 203 transfer case, the one that DOESNT shift out of 4hi and you have total traction to all 4 wheels (yes this isnt good in the summer on pavement either, it does make noise when turning) "Earle Horton" <gracioso@usa.com> wrote in message news:45d7cbb4$0$2161$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m... > In 4lo or 4hi the front and rear axles are locked together. If you have > lockers front and back then all four wheels will be locked in, sort of. > If > you try to turn the outside wheels will free wheel or the inside ones will > skid. If you have one of those full time rigs, then in 4lo, if you have > it, > the same applies. If all four wheels were actually locked together, then > the only direction you would be able to go, is straight ahead. > > Earle > > "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:KePBh.6309$MN.5170@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net ... >> So you are saying that in 4Lo, all four wheels are locked in? >> >> >> "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >> news:45d7aaf5$0$16311$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . >> > That's both driveshaft turn in part time 4X4 unlike your transfer that > has >> > a >> > differential in it that may be locked in low range. The ways we get all >> > the >> > wheels to turn: http://www.----------.com/differential.htm >> > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 >> >> > > |
Re: 93 Cherokee
The SelecTrac (nv242) case has the options of 2WD, Part Time 4WD, Full Time
4WD, Neutral, and 4Lo. The center differential is locked in PT 4WD and 4Lo as I recall. The Full Time 4WD allows normal differential operation on dry pavement. "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message news:YWZBh.29247$yC5.25656@newssvr27.news.prodigy. net... >I know that you can go more than straight a friend of mine has a 77 chevy >with the 203 transfer case, the one that DOESNT shift out of 4hi and you >have total traction to all 4 wheels (yes this isnt good in the summer on >pavement either, it does make noise when turning) > > > "Earle Horton" <gracioso@usa.com> wrote in message > news:45d7cbb4$0$2161$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m... >> In 4lo or 4hi the front and rear axles are locked together. If you have >> lockers front and back then all four wheels will be locked in, sort of. >> If >> you try to turn the outside wheels will free wheel or the inside ones >> will >> skid. If you have one of those full time rigs, then in 4lo, if you have >> it, >> the same applies. If all four wheels were actually locked together, then >> the only direction you would be able to go, is straight ahead. >> >> Earle >> >> "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message >> news:KePBh.6309$MN.5170@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net ... >>> So you are saying that in 4Lo, all four wheels are locked in? >>> >>> >>> "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >>> news:45d7aaf5$0$16311$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . >>> > That's both driveshaft turn in part time 4X4 unlike your transfer that >> has >>> > a >>> > differential in it that may be locked in low range. The ways we get >>> > all >>> > the >>> > wheels to turn: http://www.----------.com/differential.htm >>> > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 >>> >>> >> >> > > |
Re: 93 Cherokee
The SelecTrac (nv242) case has the options of 2WD, Part Time 4WD, Full Time
4WD, Neutral, and 4Lo. The center differential is locked in PT 4WD and 4Lo as I recall. The Full Time 4WD allows normal differential operation on dry pavement. "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message news:YWZBh.29247$yC5.25656@newssvr27.news.prodigy. net... >I know that you can go more than straight a friend of mine has a 77 chevy >with the 203 transfer case, the one that DOESNT shift out of 4hi and you >have total traction to all 4 wheels (yes this isnt good in the summer on >pavement either, it does make noise when turning) > > > "Earle Horton" <gracioso@usa.com> wrote in message > news:45d7cbb4$0$2161$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m... >> In 4lo or 4hi the front and rear axles are locked together. If you have >> lockers front and back then all four wheels will be locked in, sort of. >> If >> you try to turn the outside wheels will free wheel or the inside ones >> will >> skid. If you have one of those full time rigs, then in 4lo, if you have >> it, >> the same applies. If all four wheels were actually locked together, then >> the only direction you would be able to go, is straight ahead. >> >> Earle >> >> "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message >> news:KePBh.6309$MN.5170@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net ... >>> So you are saying that in 4Lo, all four wheels are locked in? >>> >>> >>> "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >>> news:45d7aaf5$0$16311$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . >>> > That's both driveshaft turn in part time 4X4 unlike your transfer that >> has >>> > a >>> > differential in it that may be locked in low range. The ways we get >>> > all >>> > the >>> > wheels to turn: http://www.----------.com/differential.htm >>> > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 >>> >>> >> >> > > |
Re: 93 Cherokee
The SelecTrac (nv242) case has the options of 2WD, Part Time 4WD, Full Time
4WD, Neutral, and 4Lo. The center differential is locked in PT 4WD and 4Lo as I recall. The Full Time 4WD allows normal differential operation on dry pavement. "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message news:YWZBh.29247$yC5.25656@newssvr27.news.prodigy. net... >I know that you can go more than straight a friend of mine has a 77 chevy >with the 203 transfer case, the one that DOESNT shift out of 4hi and you >have total traction to all 4 wheels (yes this isnt good in the summer on >pavement either, it does make noise when turning) > > > "Earle Horton" <gracioso@usa.com> wrote in message > news:45d7cbb4$0$2161$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m... >> In 4lo or 4hi the front and rear axles are locked together. If you have >> lockers front and back then all four wheels will be locked in, sort of. >> If >> you try to turn the outside wheels will free wheel or the inside ones >> will >> skid. If you have one of those full time rigs, then in 4lo, if you have >> it, >> the same applies. If all four wheels were actually locked together, then >> the only direction you would be able to go, is straight ahead. >> >> Earle >> >> "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message >> news:KePBh.6309$MN.5170@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net ... >>> So you are saying that in 4Lo, all four wheels are locked in? >>> >>> >>> "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >>> news:45d7aaf5$0$16311$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . >>> > That's both driveshaft turn in part time 4X4 unlike your transfer that >> has >>> > a >>> > differential in it that may be locked in low range. The ways we get >>> > all >>> > the >>> > wheels to turn: http://www.----------.com/differential.htm >>> > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 >>> >>> >> >> > > |
Re: 93 Cherokee
I am sorry to be the one to burst your bubble but you do not really seem
to comprehend how 4x4 works.... Your 'friend' has a 'full time' 4x4 which does come in some Jeeps and can be used on paved roads without exploding parts. It has a center differential as well as differentials on each axle. The problem with this is if you are stuck on ice, you can end up with only one wheel turning.... The 'part time' 4x4 system is designed to be used only 'part time' on dirt or snow covered roads. This locks the front and rear differential together so in order to turn a corner one wheel has to scuff the ground or something 'will' break or the t-case can explode like my old roommate did to his Cherokee driving on paved roads in 4x4. The front wheels have to take a longer track around a corner than the rear wheels in any vehicle. This means if you have it in 'part time' with the center locked, one wheel 'has' to scuff the ground. If you add lockers to the front and rear, then two wheels have to scuff the ground when you turn. This makes taking corners 'very' tricky and will turn say a 3 point trail turn around into a 10 point or more. The new Jeep with the front and rear lockers have switches to turn them off so you can do other than drive in a straight line. Putting a full time locker in the front makes for a trail rig only and not a very good one at that unless you can unlock the front hubs. Then you can simply get out and unlock the hubs when you want to turn a corner or turn around on a trail. Now I am really going to mess up your brain here.... With a normal Jeep and part time 4x4 and open differentials like I have, you can end up with one front and one rear tire turning if stuck on ice, however due to the nature of the differential, you can hit the brake pedal to load up the spinning wheels and Bingo, have all 4 spinning and away you go. This takes a bit of practice. My Jeep owners manuals say to use the emergency brake to load up the spinning wheel, but I have better luck with hitting the pedal to load it. This old trick works because both wheel see 'equal' power in the rear or front axles. If one is spinning on ice, it needs almost no power to do this so the same almost no power gets to the other wheel and it stays put. If you use the brake to slow the spinning wheel, the power needed to fight against the brake will get large enough to equal the power needed for the stopped wheel to break free from the ground. Bingo, you have 2 rear rooster tails and sometimes front ones too and away you go. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) abomb69 wrote: > I know that you can go more than straight a friend of mine has a 77 chevy > with the 203 transfer case, the one that DOESNT shift out of 4hi and you > have total traction to all 4 wheels (yes this isnt good in the summer on > pavement either, it does make noise when turning) > > > "Earle Horton" <gracioso@usa.com> wrote in message > news:45d7cbb4$0$2161$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m... >> In 4lo or 4hi the front and rear axles are locked together. If you have >> lockers front and back then all four wheels will be locked in, sort of. >> If >> you try to turn the outside wheels will free wheel or the inside ones will >> skid. If you have one of those full time rigs, then in 4lo, if you have >> it, >> the same applies. If all four wheels were actually locked together, then >> the only direction you would be able to go, is straight ahead. >> >> Earle >> >> "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message >> news:KePBh.6309$MN.5170@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net ... >>> So you are saying that in 4Lo, all four wheels are locked in? >>> >>> >>> "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >>> news:45d7aaf5$0$16311$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . >>>> That's both driveshaft turn in part time 4X4 unlike your transfer that >> has >>>> a >>>> differential in it that may be locked in low range. The ways we get all >>>> the >>>> wheels to turn: http://www.----------.com/differential.htm >>>> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 >>> >> > > |
Re: 93 Cherokee
I am sorry to be the one to burst your bubble but you do not really seem
to comprehend how 4x4 works.... Your 'friend' has a 'full time' 4x4 which does come in some Jeeps and can be used on paved roads without exploding parts. It has a center differential as well as differentials on each axle. The problem with this is if you are stuck on ice, you can end up with only one wheel turning.... The 'part time' 4x4 system is designed to be used only 'part time' on dirt or snow covered roads. This locks the front and rear differential together so in order to turn a corner one wheel has to scuff the ground or something 'will' break or the t-case can explode like my old roommate did to his Cherokee driving on paved roads in 4x4. The front wheels have to take a longer track around a corner than the rear wheels in any vehicle. This means if you have it in 'part time' with the center locked, one wheel 'has' to scuff the ground. If you add lockers to the front and rear, then two wheels have to scuff the ground when you turn. This makes taking corners 'very' tricky and will turn say a 3 point trail turn around into a 10 point or more. The new Jeep with the front and rear lockers have switches to turn them off so you can do other than drive in a straight line. Putting a full time locker in the front makes for a trail rig only and not a very good one at that unless you can unlock the front hubs. Then you can simply get out and unlock the hubs when you want to turn a corner or turn around on a trail. Now I am really going to mess up your brain here.... With a normal Jeep and part time 4x4 and open differentials like I have, you can end up with one front and one rear tire turning if stuck on ice, however due to the nature of the differential, you can hit the brake pedal to load up the spinning wheels and Bingo, have all 4 spinning and away you go. This takes a bit of practice. My Jeep owners manuals say to use the emergency brake to load up the spinning wheel, but I have better luck with hitting the pedal to load it. This old trick works because both wheel see 'equal' power in the rear or front axles. If one is spinning on ice, it needs almost no power to do this so the same almost no power gets to the other wheel and it stays put. If you use the brake to slow the spinning wheel, the power needed to fight against the brake will get large enough to equal the power needed for the stopped wheel to break free from the ground. Bingo, you have 2 rear rooster tails and sometimes front ones too and away you go. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) abomb69 wrote: > I know that you can go more than straight a friend of mine has a 77 chevy > with the 203 transfer case, the one that DOESNT shift out of 4hi and you > have total traction to all 4 wheels (yes this isnt good in the summer on > pavement either, it does make noise when turning) > > > "Earle Horton" <gracioso@usa.com> wrote in message > news:45d7cbb4$0$2161$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m... >> In 4lo or 4hi the front and rear axles are locked together. If you have >> lockers front and back then all four wheels will be locked in, sort of. >> If >> you try to turn the outside wheels will free wheel or the inside ones will >> skid. If you have one of those full time rigs, then in 4lo, if you have >> it, >> the same applies. If all four wheels were actually locked together, then >> the only direction you would be able to go, is straight ahead. >> >> Earle >> >> "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message >> news:KePBh.6309$MN.5170@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net ... >>> So you are saying that in 4Lo, all four wheels are locked in? >>> >>> >>> "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >>> news:45d7aaf5$0$16311$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . >>>> That's both driveshaft turn in part time 4X4 unlike your transfer that >> has >>>> a >>>> differential in it that may be locked in low range. The ways we get all >>>> the >>>> wheels to turn: http://www.----------.com/differential.htm >>>> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 >>> >> > > |
Re: 93 Cherokee
I am sorry to be the one to burst your bubble but you do not really seem
to comprehend how 4x4 works.... Your 'friend' has a 'full time' 4x4 which does come in some Jeeps and can be used on paved roads without exploding parts. It has a center differential as well as differentials on each axle. The problem with this is if you are stuck on ice, you can end up with only one wheel turning.... The 'part time' 4x4 system is designed to be used only 'part time' on dirt or snow covered roads. This locks the front and rear differential together so in order to turn a corner one wheel has to scuff the ground or something 'will' break or the t-case can explode like my old roommate did to his Cherokee driving on paved roads in 4x4. The front wheels have to take a longer track around a corner than the rear wheels in any vehicle. This means if you have it in 'part time' with the center locked, one wheel 'has' to scuff the ground. If you add lockers to the front and rear, then two wheels have to scuff the ground when you turn. This makes taking corners 'very' tricky and will turn say a 3 point trail turn around into a 10 point or more. The new Jeep with the front and rear lockers have switches to turn them off so you can do other than drive in a straight line. Putting a full time locker in the front makes for a trail rig only and not a very good one at that unless you can unlock the front hubs. Then you can simply get out and unlock the hubs when you want to turn a corner or turn around on a trail. Now I am really going to mess up your brain here.... With a normal Jeep and part time 4x4 and open differentials like I have, you can end up with one front and one rear tire turning if stuck on ice, however due to the nature of the differential, you can hit the brake pedal to load up the spinning wheels and Bingo, have all 4 spinning and away you go. This takes a bit of practice. My Jeep owners manuals say to use the emergency brake to load up the spinning wheel, but I have better luck with hitting the pedal to load it. This old trick works because both wheel see 'equal' power in the rear or front axles. If one is spinning on ice, it needs almost no power to do this so the same almost no power gets to the other wheel and it stays put. If you use the brake to slow the spinning wheel, the power needed to fight against the brake will get large enough to equal the power needed for the stopped wheel to break free from the ground. Bingo, you have 2 rear rooster tails and sometimes front ones too and away you go. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) abomb69 wrote: > I know that you can go more than straight a friend of mine has a 77 chevy > with the 203 transfer case, the one that DOESNT shift out of 4hi and you > have total traction to all 4 wheels (yes this isnt good in the summer on > pavement either, it does make noise when turning) > > > "Earle Horton" <gracioso@usa.com> wrote in message > news:45d7cbb4$0$2161$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m... >> In 4lo or 4hi the front and rear axles are locked together. If you have >> lockers front and back then all four wheels will be locked in, sort of. >> If >> you try to turn the outside wheels will free wheel or the inside ones will >> skid. If you have one of those full time rigs, then in 4lo, if you have >> it, >> the same applies. If all four wheels were actually locked together, then >> the only direction you would be able to go, is straight ahead. >> >> Earle >> >> "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message >> news:KePBh.6309$MN.5170@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net ... >>> So you are saying that in 4Lo, all four wheels are locked in? >>> >>> >>> "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >>> news:45d7aaf5$0$16311$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . >>>> That's both driveshaft turn in part time 4X4 unlike your transfer that >> has >>>> a >>>> differential in it that may be locked in low range. The ways we get all >>>> the >>>> wheels to turn: http://www.----------.com/differential.htm >>>> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 >>> >> > > |
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