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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 05-22-2007 02:07 AM

Re: 91 ZJ Brake lights, running lights, etc...
 
Hi Clay,
With a bulb out and it's filament crossed it can do some weird things,
but not light the front, your problem I believe a melted turn signal switch
in her column, usually caused by a short in the trailer socket. find the
short first or buy more than one switch, as I have. It will come apart very
much like this GM: http://www.chevyasylum.com/column/tiltcol.html ,
http://www.fieros.de/en/articles/steering.html &
http://www.----------.com/steeringColumn.pdf Be sure and disconnect the
battery, especially if equipped with air bags.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------


"clay" <clay@mation.com> wrote in message
news:wvp4i.7111$H_.1831@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net ...
> Girlfriendzilla's Jeep is acting up. I 'volunteered' to fix it for her.
> Looking for some pointers on where to start my search.
>
> I'm guessing it's a ground issue but here goes...
>
> Lights off: Step on the brake pedal and the ambers go on up front along
> with the brake lights in the rear.
>
> Lights on: Left side rear is much dimmer than the right. Step on the
> brake pedal and the brake lights are barely brighter than the tail
> lights. If you blink, you miss it. Again, the left noticeably dimmer
> than the right.
>
> I've replaced a bulb or two in the past few years. None recently though,
> so I don't think it's a wrong bulb issue.
>
> Ideas?




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 05-22-2007 02:07 AM

Re: 91 ZJ Brake lights, running lights, etc...
 
Hi Clay,
With a bulb out and it's filament crossed it can do some weird things,
but not light the front, your problem I believe a melted turn signal switch
in her column, usually caused by a short in the trailer socket. find the
short first or buy more than one switch, as I have. It will come apart very
much like this GM: http://www.chevyasylum.com/column/tiltcol.html ,
http://www.fieros.de/en/articles/steering.html &
http://www.----------.com/steeringColumn.pdf Be sure and disconnect the
battery, especially if equipped with air bags.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------


"clay" <clay@mation.com> wrote in message
news:wvp4i.7111$H_.1831@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net ...
> Girlfriendzilla's Jeep is acting up. I 'volunteered' to fix it for her.
> Looking for some pointers on where to start my search.
>
> I'm guessing it's a ground issue but here goes...
>
> Lights off: Step on the brake pedal and the ambers go on up front along
> with the brake lights in the rear.
>
> Lights on: Left side rear is much dimmer than the right. Step on the
> brake pedal and the brake lights are barely brighter than the tail
> lights. If you blink, you miss it. Again, the left noticeably dimmer
> than the right.
>
> I've replaced a bulb or two in the past few years. None recently though,
> so I don't think it's a wrong bulb issue.
>
> Ideas?




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 05-22-2007 02:07 AM

Re: 91 ZJ Brake lights, running lights, etc...
 
Hi Clay,
With a bulb out and it's filament crossed it can do some weird things,
but not light the front, your problem I believe a melted turn signal switch
in her column, usually caused by a short in the trailer socket. find the
short first or buy more than one switch, as I have. It will come apart very
much like this GM: http://www.chevyasylum.com/column/tiltcol.html ,
http://www.fieros.de/en/articles/steering.html &
http://www.----------.com/steeringColumn.pdf Be sure and disconnect the
battery, especially if equipped with air bags.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------


"clay" <clay@mation.com> wrote in message
news:wvp4i.7111$H_.1831@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net ...
> Girlfriendzilla's Jeep is acting up. I 'volunteered' to fix it for her.
> Looking for some pointers on where to start my search.
>
> I'm guessing it's a ground issue but here goes...
>
> Lights off: Step on the brake pedal and the ambers go on up front along
> with the brake lights in the rear.
>
> Lights on: Left side rear is much dimmer than the right. Step on the
> brake pedal and the brake lights are barely brighter than the tail
> lights. If you blink, you miss it. Again, the left noticeably dimmer
> than the right.
>
> I've replaced a bulb or two in the past few years. None recently though,
> so I don't think it's a wrong bulb issue.
>
> Ideas?




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Old Crow 05-22-2007 05:37 AM

Re: 91 ZJ Brake lights, running lights, etc...
 
On Mon, 21 May 2007 22:59:40 GMT, clay <clay@mation.com> wrote:

>Girlfriendzilla's Jeep is acting up. I 'volunteered' to fix it for her.
>Looking for some pointers on where to start my search.
>
>I'm guessing it's a ground issue but here goes...
>
>Lights off: Step on the brake pedal and the ambers go on up front along
>with the brake lights in the rear.
>
>Lights on: Left side rear is much dimmer than the right. Step on the
>brake pedal and the brake lights are barely brighter than the tail
>lights. If you blink, you miss it. Again, the left noticeably dimmer
>than the right.
>
>I've replaced a bulb or two in the past few years. None recently though,
>so I don't think it's a wrong bulb issue.
>
>Ideas?


Maybe not a wrong bulb, but a bad bulb in one of the tail lights. I've
seen 'em where one end of one of the filiments breaks and lays down
over the other filiment. Causes something like you describe.
--
Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!"
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'95 YJ Rio Grande
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM


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Old Crow 05-22-2007 05:37 AM

Re: 91 ZJ Brake lights, running lights, etc...
 
On Mon, 21 May 2007 22:59:40 GMT, clay <clay@mation.com> wrote:

>Girlfriendzilla's Jeep is acting up. I 'volunteered' to fix it for her.
>Looking for some pointers on where to start my search.
>
>I'm guessing it's a ground issue but here goes...
>
>Lights off: Step on the brake pedal and the ambers go on up front along
>with the brake lights in the rear.
>
>Lights on: Left side rear is much dimmer than the right. Step on the
>brake pedal and the brake lights are barely brighter than the tail
>lights. If you blink, you miss it. Again, the left noticeably dimmer
>than the right.
>
>I've replaced a bulb or two in the past few years. None recently though,
>so I don't think it's a wrong bulb issue.
>
>Ideas?


Maybe not a wrong bulb, but a bad bulb in one of the tail lights. I've
seen 'em where one end of one of the filiments breaks and lays down
over the other filiment. Causes something like you describe.
--
Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!"
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'95 YJ Rio Grande
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM


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Old Crow 05-22-2007 05:37 AM

Re: 91 ZJ Brake lights, running lights, etc...
 
On Mon, 21 May 2007 22:59:40 GMT, clay <clay@mation.com> wrote:

>Girlfriendzilla's Jeep is acting up. I 'volunteered' to fix it for her.
>Looking for some pointers on where to start my search.
>
>I'm guessing it's a ground issue but here goes...
>
>Lights off: Step on the brake pedal and the ambers go on up front along
>with the brake lights in the rear.
>
>Lights on: Left side rear is much dimmer than the right. Step on the
>brake pedal and the brake lights are barely brighter than the tail
>lights. If you blink, you miss it. Again, the left noticeably dimmer
>than the right.
>
>I've replaced a bulb or two in the past few years. None recently though,
>so I don't think it's a wrong bulb issue.
>
>Ideas?


Maybe not a wrong bulb, but a bad bulb in one of the tail lights. I've
seen 'em where one end of one of the filiments breaks and lays down
over the other filiment. Causes something like you describe.
--
Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!"
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'95 YJ Rio Grande
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM


--
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Old Crow 05-22-2007 05:37 AM

Re: 91 ZJ Brake lights, running lights, etc...
 
On Mon, 21 May 2007 22:59:40 GMT, clay <clay@mation.com> wrote:

>Girlfriendzilla's Jeep is acting up. I 'volunteered' to fix it for her.
>Looking for some pointers on where to start my search.
>
>I'm guessing it's a ground issue but here goes...
>
>Lights off: Step on the brake pedal and the ambers go on up front along
>with the brake lights in the rear.
>
>Lights on: Left side rear is much dimmer than the right. Step on the
>brake pedal and the brake lights are barely brighter than the tail
>lights. If you blink, you miss it. Again, the left noticeably dimmer
>than the right.
>
>I've replaced a bulb or two in the past few years. None recently though,
>so I don't think it's a wrong bulb issue.
>
>Ideas?


Maybe not a wrong bulb, but a bad bulb in one of the tail lights. I've
seen 'em where one end of one of the filiments breaks and lays down
over the other filiment. Causes something like you describe.
--
Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!"
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'95 YJ Rio Grande
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM


--
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Mike Romain 05-22-2007 10:24 AM

Re: 91 ZJ Brake lights, running lights, etc...
 
Bill, if the brake light filament breaks and falls across the running
light filament's base, which does happen, it then lights up the running
lights as well as the brake lights when the pedal is pushed while
showing the dimmest at the break point.

Mike

L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Hi Clay,
> With a bulb out and it's filament crossed it can do some weird things,
> but not light the front, your problem I believe a melted turn signal switch
> in her column, usually caused by a short in the trailer socket. find the
> short first or buy more than one switch, as I have. It will come apart very
> much like this GM: http://www.chevyasylum.com/column/tiltcol.html ,
> http://www.fieros.de/en/articles/steering.html &
> http://www.----------.com/steeringColumn.pdf Be sure and disconnect the
> battery, especially if equipped with air bags.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
>
> "clay" <clay@mation.com> wrote in message
> news:wvp4i.7111$H_.1831@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net ...
>> Girlfriendzilla's Jeep is acting up. I 'volunteered' to fix it for her.
>> Looking for some pointers on where to start my search.
>>
>> I'm guessing it's a ground issue but here goes...
>>
>> Lights off: Step on the brake pedal and the ambers go on up front along
>> with the brake lights in the rear.
>>
>> Lights on: Left side rear is much dimmer than the right. Step on the
>> brake pedal and the brake lights are barely brighter than the tail
>> lights. If you blink, you miss it. Again, the left noticeably dimmer
>> than the right.
>>
>> I've replaced a bulb or two in the past few years. None recently though,
>> so I don't think it's a wrong bulb issue.
>>
>> Ideas?

>
>
>


Mike Romain 05-22-2007 10:24 AM

Re: 91 ZJ Brake lights, running lights, etc...
 
Bill, if the brake light filament breaks and falls across the running
light filament's base, which does happen, it then lights up the running
lights as well as the brake lights when the pedal is pushed while
showing the dimmest at the break point.

Mike

L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Hi Clay,
> With a bulb out and it's filament crossed it can do some weird things,
> but not light the front, your problem I believe a melted turn signal switch
> in her column, usually caused by a short in the trailer socket. find the
> short first or buy more than one switch, as I have. It will come apart very
> much like this GM: http://www.chevyasylum.com/column/tiltcol.html ,
> http://www.fieros.de/en/articles/steering.html &
> http://www.----------.com/steeringColumn.pdf Be sure and disconnect the
> battery, especially if equipped with air bags.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
>
> "clay" <clay@mation.com> wrote in message
> news:wvp4i.7111$H_.1831@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net ...
>> Girlfriendzilla's Jeep is acting up. I 'volunteered' to fix it for her.
>> Looking for some pointers on where to start my search.
>>
>> I'm guessing it's a ground issue but here goes...
>>
>> Lights off: Step on the brake pedal and the ambers go on up front along
>> with the brake lights in the rear.
>>
>> Lights on: Left side rear is much dimmer than the right. Step on the
>> brake pedal and the brake lights are barely brighter than the tail
>> lights. If you blink, you miss it. Again, the left noticeably dimmer
>> than the right.
>>
>> I've replaced a bulb or two in the past few years. None recently though,
>> so I don't think it's a wrong bulb issue.
>>
>> Ideas?

>
>
>


Mike Romain 05-22-2007 10:24 AM

Re: 91 ZJ Brake lights, running lights, etc...
 
Bill, if the brake light filament breaks and falls across the running
light filament's base, which does happen, it then lights up the running
lights as well as the brake lights when the pedal is pushed while
showing the dimmest at the break point.

Mike

L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Hi Clay,
> With a bulb out and it's filament crossed it can do some weird things,
> but not light the front, your problem I believe a melted turn signal switch
> in her column, usually caused by a short in the trailer socket. find the
> short first or buy more than one switch, as I have. It will come apart very
> much like this GM: http://www.chevyasylum.com/column/tiltcol.html ,
> http://www.fieros.de/en/articles/steering.html &
> http://www.----------.com/steeringColumn.pdf Be sure and disconnect the
> battery, especially if equipped with air bags.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
>
> "clay" <clay@mation.com> wrote in message
> news:wvp4i.7111$H_.1831@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net ...
>> Girlfriendzilla's Jeep is acting up. I 'volunteered' to fix it for her.
>> Looking for some pointers on where to start my search.
>>
>> I'm guessing it's a ground issue but here goes...
>>
>> Lights off: Step on the brake pedal and the ambers go on up front along
>> with the brake lights in the rear.
>>
>> Lights on: Left side rear is much dimmer than the right. Step on the
>> brake pedal and the brake lights are barely brighter than the tail
>> lights. If you blink, you miss it. Again, the left noticeably dimmer
>> than the right.
>>
>> I've replaced a bulb or two in the past few years. None recently though,
>> so I don't think it's a wrong bulb issue.
>>
>> Ideas?

>
>
>



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