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clay 05-21-2007 06:59 PM

91 ZJ Brake lights, running lights, etc...
 
Girlfriendzilla's Jeep is acting up. I 'volunteered' to fix it for her.
Looking for some pointers on where to start my search.

I'm guessing it's a ground issue but here goes...

Lights off: Step on the brake pedal and the ambers go on up front along
with the brake lights in the rear.

Lights on: Left side rear is much dimmer than the right. Step on the
brake pedal and the brake lights are barely brighter than the tail
lights. If you blink, you miss it. Again, the left noticeably dimmer
than the right.

I've replaced a bulb or two in the past few years. None recently though,
so I don't think it's a wrong bulb issue.

Ideas?

Mike Romain 05-21-2007 08:03 PM

Re: 91 ZJ Brake lights, running lights, etc...
 
clay wrote:
> Girlfriendzilla's Jeep is acting up. I 'volunteered' to fix it for her.
> Looking for some pointers on where to start my search.
>
> I'm guessing it's a ground issue but here goes...
>
> Lights off: Step on the brake pedal and the ambers go on up front along
> with the brake lights in the rear.
>
> Lights on: Left side rear is much dimmer than the right. Step on the
> brake pedal and the brake lights are barely brighter than the tail
> lights. If you blink, you miss it. Again, the left noticeably dimmer
> than the right.
>
> I've replaced a bulb or two in the past few years. None recently though,
> so I don't think it's a wrong bulb issue.
>
> Ideas?


Look to the dim bulb being a short between the signals and running lights.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 05-21-2007 08:03 PM

Re: 91 ZJ Brake lights, running lights, etc...
 
clay wrote:
> Girlfriendzilla's Jeep is acting up. I 'volunteered' to fix it for her.
> Looking for some pointers on where to start my search.
>
> I'm guessing it's a ground issue but here goes...
>
> Lights off: Step on the brake pedal and the ambers go on up front along
> with the brake lights in the rear.
>
> Lights on: Left side rear is much dimmer than the right. Step on the
> brake pedal and the brake lights are barely brighter than the tail
> lights. If you blink, you miss it. Again, the left noticeably dimmer
> than the right.
>
> I've replaced a bulb or two in the past few years. None recently though,
> so I don't think it's a wrong bulb issue.
>
> Ideas?


Look to the dim bulb being a short between the signals and running lights.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 05-21-2007 08:03 PM

Re: 91 ZJ Brake lights, running lights, etc...
 
clay wrote:
> Girlfriendzilla's Jeep is acting up. I 'volunteered' to fix it for her.
> Looking for some pointers on where to start my search.
>
> I'm guessing it's a ground issue but here goes...
>
> Lights off: Step on the brake pedal and the ambers go on up front along
> with the brake lights in the rear.
>
> Lights on: Left side rear is much dimmer than the right. Step on the
> brake pedal and the brake lights are barely brighter than the tail
> lights. If you blink, you miss it. Again, the left noticeably dimmer
> than the right.
>
> I've replaced a bulb or two in the past few years. None recently though,
> so I don't think it's a wrong bulb issue.
>
> Ideas?


Look to the dim bulb being a short between the signals and running lights.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 05-21-2007 08:03 PM

Re: 91 ZJ Brake lights, running lights, etc...
 
clay wrote:
> Girlfriendzilla's Jeep is acting up. I 'volunteered' to fix it for her.
> Looking for some pointers on where to start my search.
>
> I'm guessing it's a ground issue but here goes...
>
> Lights off: Step on the brake pedal and the ambers go on up front along
> with the brake lights in the rear.
>
> Lights on: Left side rear is much dimmer than the right. Step on the
> brake pedal and the brake lights are barely brighter than the tail
> lights. If you blink, you miss it. Again, the left noticeably dimmer
> than the right.
>
> I've replaced a bulb or two in the past few years. None recently though,
> so I don't think it's a wrong bulb issue.
>
> Ideas?


Look to the dim bulb being a short between the signals and running lights.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

clay 05-21-2007 08:22 PM

Re: 91 ZJ Brake lights, running lights, etc...
 
Mike Romain wrote:
> clay wrote:
>> Girlfriendzilla's Jeep is acting up. I 'volunteered' to fix it for her.
>> Looking for some pointers on where to start my search.
>>
>> I'm guessing it's a ground issue but here goes...
>>
>> Lights off: Step on the brake pedal and the ambers go on up front
>> along with the brake lights in the rear.
>>
>> Lights on: Left side rear is much dimmer than the right. Step on the
>> brake pedal and the brake lights are barely brighter than the tail
>> lights. If you blink, you miss it. Again, the left noticeably dimmer
>> than the right.
>>
>> I've replaced a bulb or two in the past few years. None recently
>> though, so I don't think it's a wrong bulb issue.
>>
>> Ideas?

>
> Look to the dim bulb being a short between the signals and running lights.
>


I'll look at that.
I didn't even try the signals to see what they did or didn't did...
Hazards either.
Thanks!

clay 05-21-2007 08:22 PM

Re: 91 ZJ Brake lights, running lights, etc...
 
Mike Romain wrote:
> clay wrote:
>> Girlfriendzilla's Jeep is acting up. I 'volunteered' to fix it for her.
>> Looking for some pointers on where to start my search.
>>
>> I'm guessing it's a ground issue but here goes...
>>
>> Lights off: Step on the brake pedal and the ambers go on up front
>> along with the brake lights in the rear.
>>
>> Lights on: Left side rear is much dimmer than the right. Step on the
>> brake pedal and the brake lights are barely brighter than the tail
>> lights. If you blink, you miss it. Again, the left noticeably dimmer
>> than the right.
>>
>> I've replaced a bulb or two in the past few years. None recently
>> though, so I don't think it's a wrong bulb issue.
>>
>> Ideas?

>
> Look to the dim bulb being a short between the signals and running lights.
>


I'll look at that.
I didn't even try the signals to see what they did or didn't did...
Hazards either.
Thanks!

clay 05-21-2007 08:22 PM

Re: 91 ZJ Brake lights, running lights, etc...
 
Mike Romain wrote:
> clay wrote:
>> Girlfriendzilla's Jeep is acting up. I 'volunteered' to fix it for her.
>> Looking for some pointers on where to start my search.
>>
>> I'm guessing it's a ground issue but here goes...
>>
>> Lights off: Step on the brake pedal and the ambers go on up front
>> along with the brake lights in the rear.
>>
>> Lights on: Left side rear is much dimmer than the right. Step on the
>> brake pedal and the brake lights are barely brighter than the tail
>> lights. If you blink, you miss it. Again, the left noticeably dimmer
>> than the right.
>>
>> I've replaced a bulb or two in the past few years. None recently
>> though, so I don't think it's a wrong bulb issue.
>>
>> Ideas?

>
> Look to the dim bulb being a short between the signals and running lights.
>


I'll look at that.
I didn't even try the signals to see what they did or didn't did...
Hazards either.
Thanks!

clay 05-21-2007 08:22 PM

Re: 91 ZJ Brake lights, running lights, etc...
 
Mike Romain wrote:
> clay wrote:
>> Girlfriendzilla's Jeep is acting up. I 'volunteered' to fix it for her.
>> Looking for some pointers on where to start my search.
>>
>> I'm guessing it's a ground issue but here goes...
>>
>> Lights off: Step on the brake pedal and the ambers go on up front
>> along with the brake lights in the rear.
>>
>> Lights on: Left side rear is much dimmer than the right. Step on the
>> brake pedal and the brake lights are barely brighter than the tail
>> lights. If you blink, you miss it. Again, the left noticeably dimmer
>> than the right.
>>
>> I've replaced a bulb or two in the past few years. None recently
>> though, so I don't think it's a wrong bulb issue.
>>
>> Ideas?

>
> Look to the dim bulb being a short between the signals and running lights.
>


I'll look at that.
I didn't even try the signals to see what they did or didn't did...
Hazards either.
Thanks!

L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 05-22-2007 02:07 AM

Re: 91 ZJ Brake lights, running lights, etc...
 
Hi Clay,
With a bulb out and it's filament crossed it can do some weird things,
but not light the front, your problem I believe a melted turn signal switch
in her column, usually caused by a short in the trailer socket. find the
short first or buy more than one switch, as I have. It will come apart very
much like this GM: http://www.chevyasylum.com/column/tiltcol.html ,
http://www.fieros.de/en/articles/steering.html &
http://www.----------.com/steeringColumn.pdf Be sure and disconnect the
battery, especially if equipped with air bags.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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"clay" <clay@mation.com> wrote in message
news:wvp4i.7111$H_.1831@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net ...
> Girlfriendzilla's Jeep is acting up. I 'volunteered' to fix it for her.
> Looking for some pointers on where to start my search.
>
> I'm guessing it's a ground issue but here goes...
>
> Lights off: Step on the brake pedal and the ambers go on up front along
> with the brake lights in the rear.
>
> Lights on: Left side rear is much dimmer than the right. Step on the
> brake pedal and the brake lights are barely brighter than the tail
> lights. If you blink, you miss it. Again, the left noticeably dimmer
> than the right.
>
> I've replaced a bulb or two in the past few years. None recently though,
> so I don't think it's a wrong bulb issue.
>
> Ideas?




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