griffin

I remember you posting pics of that a few years ago back when I was on here
with my '88 YJ. Scary incident for you I'm sure. I remember the one pic with
it on it's side sorta hanging over the edge.

--
griffin
'85 Jeep CJ-7
'97 Toyota Corolla SD

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:419171AF.4A1E33E@sympatico.ca...
> I have rolled my CJ7 twice. Both times were only a 90 deg side flip,
> but it sure is wild eh?
>
> I ended up on the second one with my face looking straight down out of
> the plastic door into open water at the end of a beaver pond 3' below
> me. The snow had me good enough I didn't turtle right in thankfully.
> It was a 'nasty' 8 mile walk in 2' of snow with a pulled groin muscle
> starting out at 9 at night back to the camp though.... The camp was
> still 20 miles from a phone.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

griffin

I remember you posting pics of that a few years ago back when I was on here
with my '88 YJ. Scary incident for you I'm sure. I remember the one pic with
it on it's side sorta hanging over the edge.

--
griffin
'85 Jeep CJ-7
'97 Toyota Corolla SD

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:419171AF.4A1E33E@sympatico.ca...
> I have rolled my CJ7 twice. Both times were only a 90 deg side flip,
> but it sure is wild eh?
>
> I ended up on the second one with my face looking straight down out of
> the plastic door into open water at the end of a beaver pond 3' below
> me. The snow had me good enough I didn't turtle right in thankfully.
> It was a 'nasty' 8 mile walk in 2' of snow with a pulled groin muscle
> starting out at 9 at night back to the camp though.... The camp was
> still 20 miles from a phone.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

griffin

I remember you posting pics of that a few years ago back when I was on here
with my '88 YJ. Scary incident for you I'm sure. I remember the one pic with
it on it's side sorta hanging over the edge.

--
griffin
'85 Jeep CJ-7
'97 Toyota Corolla SD

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:419171AF.4A1E33E@sympatico.ca...
> I have rolled my CJ7 twice. Both times were only a 90 deg side flip,
> but it sure is wild eh?
>
> I ended up on the second one with my face looking straight down out of
> the plastic door into open water at the end of a beaver pond 3' below
> me. The snow had me good enough I didn't turtle right in thankfully.
> It was a 'nasty' 8 mile walk in 2' of snow with a pulled groin muscle
> starting out at 9 at night back to the camp though.... The camp was
> still 20 miles from a phone.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Chris

John,
Well the good news is, my wife already has a 3.7L Liberty with tow
package. I tracked down a low flatbed I can borrow. Now I am trying to
figure out where that barn is. I have some leads now, but that is the
most difficult part at the moment. I will post picts on the web for you
all to look at and give some feed back on. This should be an
interesting project.


On 2004-11-09 16:57:17 -0800, jcwelch@hal-pc.org (John Welch) said:

> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:<418EC524.B19B359@***.net>...
>> All Real Jeeps roll at least once, it's a right of passage. God Bless
>> America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Chris wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, thank you guys for the help getting my YJ up and running again.
>>> While on a little camping trip in Joshua Tree we had a little accident
>>> and rolled the jeep in the sand 270 degrees . A combination of things
> Do what I did when favorite daughter #1 smashed the TJ. Go buy your
> wife a Liberty, take it to U-Haul and get a hitch put on it, hook up
> to a low-boy trailer and haul the carcass off to a barn where you can
> tear it down. I have found that after getting our TJ fixed the
> Liberty is useful for getting it unstuck:
> http://www.hal-pc.org/~jcwelch/stucktj.jpg
> Of course you have to put up with what you have to put up with out of
> a wife when she gets you unstuck :-)
>
> And yes, that is the same TJ as seen in http://lnc.grwelch.com/jeep/
> and it was worth putting back together.

Chris

John,
Well the good news is, my wife already has a 3.7L Liberty with tow
package. I tracked down a low flatbed I can borrow. Now I am trying to
figure out where that barn is. I have some leads now, but that is the
most difficult part at the moment. I will post picts on the web for you
all to look at and give some feed back on. This should be an
interesting project.


On 2004-11-09 16:57:17 -0800, jcwelch@hal-pc.org (John Welch) said:

> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:<418EC524.B19B359@***.net>...
>> All Real Jeeps roll at least once, it's a right of passage. God Bless
>> America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Chris wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, thank you guys for the help getting my YJ up and running again.
>>> While on a little camping trip in Joshua Tree we had a little accident
>>> and rolled the jeep in the sand 270 degrees . A combination of things
> Do what I did when favorite daughter #1 smashed the TJ. Go buy your
> wife a Liberty, take it to U-Haul and get a hitch put on it, hook up
> to a low-boy trailer and haul the carcass off to a barn where you can
> tear it down. I have found that after getting our TJ fixed the
> Liberty is useful for getting it unstuck:
> http://www.hal-pc.org/~jcwelch/stucktj.jpg
> Of course you have to put up with what you have to put up with out of
> a wife when she gets you unstuck :-)
>
> And yes, that is the same TJ as seen in http://lnc.grwelch.com/jeep/
> and it was worth putting back together.

Chris

John,
Well the good news is, my wife already has a 3.7L Liberty with tow
package. I tracked down a low flatbed I can borrow. Now I am trying to
figure out where that barn is. I have some leads now, but that is the
most difficult part at the moment. I will post picts on the web for you
all to look at and give some feed back on. This should be an
interesting project.


On 2004-11-09 16:57:17 -0800, jcwelch@hal-pc.org (John Welch) said:

> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:<418EC524.B19B359@***.net>...
>> All Real Jeeps roll at least once, it's a right of passage. God Bless
>> America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Chris wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, thank you guys for the help getting my YJ up and running again.
>>> While on a little camping trip in Joshua Tree we had a little accident
>>> and rolled the jeep in the sand 270 degrees . A combination of things
> Do what I did when favorite daughter #1 smashed the TJ. Go buy your
> wife a Liberty, take it to U-Haul and get a hitch put on it, hook up
> to a low-boy trailer and haul the carcass off to a barn where you can
> tear it down. I have found that after getting our TJ fixed the
> Liberty is useful for getting it unstuck:
> http://www.hal-pc.org/~jcwelch/stucktj.jpg
> Of course you have to put up with what you have to put up with out of
> a wife when she gets you unstuck :-)
>
> And yes, that is the same TJ as seen in http://lnc.grwelch.com/jeep/
> and it was worth putting back together.

Chris

Carl,
I am not ruling that out as an option. Never been up to WA, but have
been meaning to. If I do decide to
sell it off, I will let you know.

Chris


On 2004-11-09 16:28:26 -0800, "Carl Saiyed"
<carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> said:

> Wanna stop in WA and drop it off?
>
> Carl
>
> "Chris" <chris-at-borngraphics.com> wrote in message
> news:2004110910162316807%chrisatborngraphicscom@ca llhome.homeip.net...
>> I have been looking at differnt parts options online. One thing I need
>> to do is check the the frame did not buckle or deform at all. If it
>> did, then I may not take on the challenge of fixing it. If it did not,
>> then replcing bumpers, body panels, radiator, and roll bars may
>> actually be doable. I have never done any of these things before, but I
>> am up to the challenge and would make the comitment if it looks
>> reasonable. The problem is this... Are there locations, storage
>> garages/yards that allow you to place a vehical like this to work on
>> and repair yourself. I have most the tools needed to do this, just no
>> place to do it. The HOA would not allow the heep in my driveway, and my
>> garage is out of the question for the couple of months it would take to
>> do this work. I have been calling around, but no one seems to have any
>> idea where I should turn. The shops want to park it so you will pay
>> them to do the work. This would just cost to much. I am thinking of
>> putting it in a PublicStorage unit for now just to get it out of the
>> $25 a day tow yard location. This may be a fun challenge of rebuilding
>> the thing. A big commitment, but it may provide a better apprication
>> for the Jeep and the fact that we made it through the accident.
>> Otherwise "1991 Jeep YJ For Sale. Will tow to So. Cal. location at no
>> charge. Has been rolled 270 degrees, and needs body work. It ran great
>> right up until it turned. Looking for best offer" :-)
>>
>> Damn I miss it already. I have been wanting one for a long time, and
>> not even two months before this. On the way to work this morning I saw
>> so many Jeeps on the road, bummer. :-(
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2004-11-09 08:20:31 -0800, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> said:
>>
>>> Agreed!
>>>
>>> He can get a new 'glass body made right here in Ontario for under
>>> $2K....
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>> Greg wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Agreed, although I am not machanically inclined it would take a lot for
> me
>>>> to say my jeep was totaled, since insurance isn't going to pay, you are
>>>> going to have to go by something else to drive for say $5,000.00, why
> not
>>>> just put that into repairing your jeep.
>>>>
>>>> "Snowboardripper" <snowboardripper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:72ce17be.0411080638.55f4a32@posting.google.co m...
>>>>> You are not the first to roll a jeep. Jeeps are rugged, if you are
>>>>> just using it for offroading or a fun vehicle keep it. You can find
>>>>> tons of parts from old jeeps to replace it. Take a look at some of
>>>>> the other jeeps that people drive on the trail, most have been beaten
>>>>> up badly. It does not take much to fix it up for the trail and
>>>>> replace the parts. A hammer is really cheap! I really doubt that you
>>>>> totaled it you just add some character to it.

Chris

Carl,
I am not ruling that out as an option. Never been up to WA, but have
been meaning to. If I do decide to
sell it off, I will let you know.

Chris


On 2004-11-09 16:28:26 -0800, "Carl Saiyed"
<carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> said:

> Wanna stop in WA and drop it off?
>
> Carl
>
> "Chris" <chris-at-borngraphics.com> wrote in message
> news:2004110910162316807%chrisatborngraphicscom@ca llhome.homeip.net...
>> I have been looking at differnt parts options online. One thing I need
>> to do is check the the frame did not buckle or deform at all. If it
>> did, then I may not take on the challenge of fixing it. If it did not,
>> then replcing bumpers, body panels, radiator, and roll bars may
>> actually be doable. I have never done any of these things before, but I
>> am up to the challenge and would make the comitment if it looks
>> reasonable. The problem is this... Are there locations, storage
>> garages/yards that allow you to place a vehical like this to work on
>> and repair yourself. I have most the tools needed to do this, just no
>> place to do it. The HOA would not allow the heep in my driveway, and my
>> garage is out of the question for the couple of months it would take to
>> do this work. I have been calling around, but no one seems to have any
>> idea where I should turn. The shops want to park it so you will pay
>> them to do the work. This would just cost to much. I am thinking of
>> putting it in a PublicStorage unit for now just to get it out of the
>> $25 a day tow yard location. This may be a fun challenge of rebuilding
>> the thing. A big commitment, but it may provide a better apprication
>> for the Jeep and the fact that we made it through the accident.
>> Otherwise "1991 Jeep YJ For Sale. Will tow to So. Cal. location at no
>> charge. Has been rolled 270 degrees, and needs body work. It ran great
>> right up until it turned. Looking for best offer" :-)
>>
>> Damn I miss it already. I have been wanting one for a long time, and
>> not even two months before this. On the way to work this morning I saw
>> so many Jeeps on the road, bummer. :-(
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2004-11-09 08:20:31 -0800, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> said:
>>
>>> Agreed!
>>>
>>> He can get a new 'glass body made right here in Ontario for under
>>> $2K....
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>> Greg wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Agreed, although I am not machanically inclined it would take a lot for
> me
>>>> to say my jeep was totaled, since insurance isn't going to pay, you are
>>>> going to have to go by something else to drive for say $5,000.00, why
> not
>>>> just put that into repairing your jeep.
>>>>
>>>> "Snowboardripper" <snowboardripper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:72ce17be.0411080638.55f4a32@posting.google.co m...
>>>>> You are not the first to roll a jeep. Jeeps are rugged, if you are
>>>>> just using it for offroading or a fun vehicle keep it. You can find
>>>>> tons of parts from old jeeps to replace it. Take a look at some of
>>>>> the other jeeps that people drive on the trail, most have been beaten
>>>>> up badly. It does not take much to fix it up for the trail and
>>>>> replace the parts. A hammer is really cheap! I really doubt that you
>>>>> totaled it you just add some character to it.

Chris

Carl,
I am not ruling that out as an option. Never been up to WA, but have
been meaning to. If I do decide to
sell it off, I will let you know.

Chris


On 2004-11-09 16:28:26 -0800, "Carl Saiyed"
<carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> said:

> Wanna stop in WA and drop it off?
>
> Carl
>
> "Chris" <chris-at-borngraphics.com> wrote in message
> news:2004110910162316807%chrisatborngraphicscom@ca llhome.homeip.net...
>> I have been looking at differnt parts options online. One thing I need
>> to do is check the the frame did not buckle or deform at all. If it
>> did, then I may not take on the challenge of fixing it. If it did not,
>> then replcing bumpers, body panels, radiator, and roll bars may
>> actually be doable. I have never done any of these things before, but I
>> am up to the challenge and would make the comitment if it looks
>> reasonable. The problem is this... Are there locations, storage
>> garages/yards that allow you to place a vehical like this to work on
>> and repair yourself. I have most the tools needed to do this, just no
>> place to do it. The HOA would not allow the heep in my driveway, and my
>> garage is out of the question for the couple of months it would take to
>> do this work. I have been calling around, but no one seems to have any
>> idea where I should turn. The shops want to park it so you will pay
>> them to do the work. This would just cost to much. I am thinking of
>> putting it in a PublicStorage unit for now just to get it out of the
>> $25 a day tow yard location. This may be a fun challenge of rebuilding
>> the thing. A big commitment, but it may provide a better apprication
>> for the Jeep and the fact that we made it through the accident.
>> Otherwise "1991 Jeep YJ For Sale. Will tow to So. Cal. location at no
>> charge. Has been rolled 270 degrees, and needs body work. It ran great
>> right up until it turned. Looking for best offer" :-)
>>
>> Damn I miss it already. I have been wanting one for a long time, and
>> not even two months before this. On the way to work this morning I saw
>> so many Jeeps on the road, bummer. :-(
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2004-11-09 08:20:31 -0800, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> said:
>>
>>> Agreed!
>>>
>>> He can get a new 'glass body made right here in Ontario for under
>>> $2K....
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>> Greg wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Agreed, although I am not machanically inclined it would take a lot for
> me
>>>> to say my jeep was totaled, since insurance isn't going to pay, you are
>>>> going to have to go by something else to drive for say $5,000.00, why
> not
>>>> just put that into repairing your jeep.
>>>>
>>>> "Snowboardripper" <snowboardripper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:72ce17be.0411080638.55f4a32@posting.google.co m...
>>>>> You are not the first to roll a jeep. Jeeps are rugged, if you are
>>>>> just using it for offroading or a fun vehicle keep it. You can find
>>>>> tons of parts from old jeeps to replace it. Take a look at some of
>>>>> the other jeeps that people drive on the trail, most have been beaten
>>>>> up badly. It does not take much to fix it up for the trail and
>>>>> replace the parts. A hammer is really cheap! I really doubt that you
>>>>> totaled it you just add some character to it.

Chris

Hey John,
What were the approximate cost of fixing that TJ? My front end is not
nearly that bad, but some of the same parts will need to be replaced,
so that could give some indication.

Thanks,
Chris


On 2004-11-09 16:57:17 -0800, jcwelch@hal-pc.org (John Welch) said:

> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:<418EC524.B19B359@***.net>...
>> All Real Jeeps roll at least once, it's a right of passage. God Bless
>> America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Chris wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, thank you guys for the help getting my YJ up and running again.
>>> While on a little camping trip in Joshua Tree we had a little accident
>>> and rolled the jeep in the sand 270 degrees . A combination of things
> Do what I did when favorite daughter #1 smashed the TJ. Go buy your
> wife a Liberty, take it to U-Haul and get a hitch put on it, hook up
> to a low-boy trailer and haul the carcass off to a barn where you can
> tear it down. I have found that after getting our TJ fixed the
> Liberty is useful for getting it unstuck:
> http://www.hal-pc.org/~jcwelch/stucktj.jpg
> Of course you have to put up with what you have to put up with out of
> a wife when she gets you unstuck :-)
>
> And yes, that is the same TJ as seen in http://lnc.grwelch.com/jeep/
> and it was worth putting back together.