The thing is Bill, with the double-cardan joint installed, I can't even see
that zerk fitting (for the double-cardan joint ball). The skid plate that
holds up the xfer case is right there in the way, but even then the zerk
fitting is covered by the knuckle of the spider.

Does the double-cardan joint ball and spring assembly put pressure on the
spider to prevent wobbling?

Thanks for all your responses and advice too Bill. I really appreciate it.
Were you a mechanic in a previous life (maybe after you were in the army)?
What unit were you in when you were in the army?

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"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42C9AF16.36B6EB54@***.net...
> Hi Doug,
> Sounds safer than letting the wife run you over. You'll need a
> grease needle to get the center bearing:
> http://www.----------.com/cvZerk.jpg Without that centering bearing the
> constant velocity universal joints would wobble all over the place:
> http://www.----------.com/CVJoint.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
> Doug wrote:
>>
>> If I jack up both front tires of my cherokee, apply the parking brake and
>> put the auto-trans in neutral and leave the xfer case in 4WD will I be
>> able
>> to freely rotate the front driveshaft so I can get to all the zerk grease
>> fittings?
>>
>> Also, what's the double cardan joint ball for? In looking at the exploded
>> diagram of the double cardan joint in the front driveshaft (right next to
>> the xfer case) there is a ball fitting that looks like its got a grease
>> fitting. What I'm wondering is why you need this spring-ball at all. If
>> the
>> spiders are handling all the load from transferring power from the
>> driveshaft through the double cardan joint then what is the point of the
>> ball that goes between the spider and the center yoke in the double
>> cardan
>> joint?
>>
>> --
>> there is no .sig

 

The thing is Bill, with the double-cardan joint installed, I can't even see
that zerk fitting (for the double-cardan joint ball). The skid plate that
holds up the xfer case is right there in the way, but even then the zerk
fitting is covered by the knuckle of the spider.

Does the double-cardan joint ball and spring assembly put pressure on the
spider to prevent wobbling?

Thanks for all your responses and advice too Bill. I really appreciate it.
Were you a mechanic in a previous life (maybe after you were in the army)?
What unit were you in when you were in the army?

--
there is no .sig
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42C9AF16.36B6EB54@***.net...
> Hi Doug,
> Sounds safer than letting the wife run you over. You'll need a
> grease needle to get the center bearing:
> http://www.----------.com/cvZerk.jpg Without that centering bearing the
> constant velocity universal joints would wobble all over the place:
> http://www.----------.com/CVJoint.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
> Doug wrote:
>>
>> If I jack up both front tires of my cherokee, apply the parking brake and
>> put the auto-trans in neutral and leave the xfer case in 4WD will I be
>> able
>> to freely rotate the front driveshaft so I can get to all the zerk grease
>> fittings?
>>
>> Also, what's the double cardan joint ball for? In looking at the exploded
>> diagram of the double cardan joint in the front driveshaft (right next to
>> the xfer case) there is a ball fitting that looks like its got a grease
>> fitting. What I'm wondering is why you need this spring-ball at all. If
>> the
>> spiders are handling all the load from transferring power from the
>> driveshaft through the double cardan joint then what is the point of the
>> ball that goes between the spider and the center yoke in the double
>> cardan
>> joint?
>>
>> --
>> there is no .sig

 

The thing is Bill, with the double-cardan joint installed, I can't even see
that zerk fitting (for the double-cardan joint ball). The skid plate that
holds up the xfer case is right there in the way, but even then the zerk
fitting is covered by the knuckle of the spider.

Does the double-cardan joint ball and spring assembly put pressure on the
spider to prevent wobbling?

Thanks for all your responses and advice too Bill. I really appreciate it.
Were you a mechanic in a previous life (maybe after you were in the army)?
What unit were you in when you were in the army?

--
there is no .sig
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42C9AF16.36B6EB54@***.net...
> Hi Doug,
> Sounds safer than letting the wife run you over. You'll need a
> grease needle to get the center bearing:
> http://www.----------.com/cvZerk.jpg Without that centering bearing the
> constant velocity universal joints would wobble all over the place:
> http://www.----------.com/CVJoint.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
> Doug wrote:
>>
>> If I jack up both front tires of my cherokee, apply the parking brake and
>> put the auto-trans in neutral and leave the xfer case in 4WD will I be
>> able
>> to freely rotate the front driveshaft so I can get to all the zerk grease
>> fittings?
>>
>> Also, what's the double cardan joint ball for? In looking at the exploded
>> diagram of the double cardan joint in the front driveshaft (right next to
>> the xfer case) there is a ball fitting that looks like its got a grease
>> fitting. What I'm wondering is why you need this spring-ball at all. If
>> the
>> spiders are handling all the load from transferring power from the
>> driveshaft through the double cardan joint then what is the point of the
>> ball that goes between the spider and the center yoke in the double
>> cardan
>> joint?
>>
>> --
>> there is no .sig

 

Many time I have to rotate the zerk pointed and shot it blind, as
the angle is too tight pointed down.
Seems like that spring would give a little during operation, but it
doesn't, it's a must to give us enough room to pop bearing cap over the
lock cog on assembly.
I use the term universal joint, maybe star to further describe a
part of it, but spider is what we call the differential side gears
because of the angle their teeth are cut:
http://www.----------.com/dana35c/dana35cclip.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Doug wrote:
>
> Bill, the thing is, I've never even been able to see that grease fitting
> (for the ball), no matter how much I rotate the front driveshaft. Does the
> ball and spring put pressure on the spider? Is this how it stops the
> double-cardan joint from wobbling?

 

Many time I have to rotate the zerk pointed and shot it blind, as
the angle is too tight pointed down.
Seems like that spring would give a little during operation, but it
doesn't, it's a must to give us enough room to pop bearing cap over the
lock cog on assembly.
I use the term universal joint, maybe star to further describe a
part of it, but spider is what we call the differential side gears
because of the angle their teeth are cut:
http://www.----------.com/dana35c/dana35cclip.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Doug wrote:
>
> Bill, the thing is, I've never even been able to see that grease fitting
> (for the ball), no matter how much I rotate the front driveshaft. Does the
> ball and spring put pressure on the spider? Is this how it stops the
> double-cardan joint from wobbling?

 

Many time I have to rotate the zerk pointed and shot it blind, as
the angle is too tight pointed down.
Seems like that spring would give a little during operation, but it
doesn't, it's a must to give us enough room to pop bearing cap over the
lock cog on assembly.
I use the term universal joint, maybe star to further describe a
part of it, but spider is what we call the differential side gears
because of the angle their teeth are cut:
http://www.----------.com/dana35c/dana35cclip.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Doug wrote:
>
> Bill, the thing is, I've never even been able to see that grease fitting
> (for the ball), no matter how much I rotate the front driveshaft. Does the
> ball and spring put pressure on the spider? Is this how it stops the
> double-cardan joint from wobbling?

 

Many time I have to rotate the zerk pointed and shot it blind, as
the angle is too tight pointed down.
Seems like that spring would give a little during operation, but it
doesn't, it's a must to give us enough room to pop bearing cap over the
lock cog on assembly.
I use the term universal joint, maybe star to further describe a
part of it, but spider is what we call the differential side gears
because of the angle their teeth are cut:
http://www.----------.com/dana35c/dana35cclip.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Doug wrote:
>
> Bill, the thing is, I've never even been able to see that grease fitting
> (for the ball), no matter how much I rotate the front driveshaft. Does the
> ball and spring put pressure on the spider? Is this how it stops the
> double-cardan joint from wobbling?

 

Yes, I was a mechanic in the Navy until Pearl Harbor, took me
twenty two days to die.
This life, I rebuilt my first carburetor at the age four, drove
twenty five dollars cars on twenty five cents tires, which of course
needed a lot of work to get to school. Caught the hot rod bug in high
school: http://www.----------.com/dragster.jpg Did twenty years as an
owner/operator Chevron Dealer: http://www.----------.com/chevron.jpg and
burned out, and thought Sony and Will's characters had a good job seeing
the U.S.of A. So I became an independent trucker driving a million miles
with two logs. Doing normal maintenance took all my spare time, giving
me a bunch more mechanic experience, but not much fun at ten cents an
hour: http://www.----------.com/kenworth.jpg
I was surveyor while in the ARMY '64 to '66, and tested all the
artillery divisions and the Honest John missile in Germany:
http://www.----------.com/proudFcivilian.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Doug wrote:
>
> The thing is Bill, with the double-cardan joint installed, I can't even see
> that zerk fitting (for the double-cardan joint ball). The skid plate that
> holds up the xfer case is right there in the way, but even then the zerk
> fitting is covered by the knuckle of the spider.
>
> Does the double-cardan joint ball and spring assembly put pressure on the
> spider to prevent wobbling?
>
> Thanks for all your responses and advice too Bill. I really appreciate it.
> Were you a mechanic in a previous life (maybe after you were in the army)?
> What unit were you in when you were in the army?

 

Yes, I was a mechanic in the Navy until Pearl Harbor, took me
twenty two days to die.
This life, I rebuilt my first carburetor at the age four, drove
twenty five dollars cars on twenty five cents tires, which of course
needed a lot of work to get to school. Caught the hot rod bug in high
school: http://www.----------.com/dragster.jpg Did twenty years as an
owner/operator Chevron Dealer: http://www.----------.com/chevron.jpg and
burned out, and thought Sony and Will's characters had a good job seeing
the U.S.of A. So I became an independent trucker driving a million miles
with two logs. Doing normal maintenance took all my spare time, giving
me a bunch more mechanic experience, but not much fun at ten cents an
hour: http://www.----------.com/kenworth.jpg
I was surveyor while in the ARMY '64 to '66, and tested all the
artillery divisions and the Honest John missile in Germany:
http://www.----------.com/proudFcivilian.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Doug wrote:
>
> The thing is Bill, with the double-cardan joint installed, I can't even see
> that zerk fitting (for the double-cardan joint ball). The skid plate that
> holds up the xfer case is right there in the way, but even then the zerk
> fitting is covered by the knuckle of the spider.
>
> Does the double-cardan joint ball and spring assembly put pressure on the
> spider to prevent wobbling?
>
> Thanks for all your responses and advice too Bill. I really appreciate it.
> Were you a mechanic in a previous life (maybe after you were in the army)?
> What unit were you in when you were in the army?

 

Yes, I was a mechanic in the Navy until Pearl Harbor, took me
twenty two days to die.
This life, I rebuilt my first carburetor at the age four, drove
twenty five dollars cars on twenty five cents tires, which of course
needed a lot of work to get to school. Caught the hot rod bug in high
school: http://www.----------.com/dragster.jpg Did twenty years as an
owner/operator Chevron Dealer: http://www.----------.com/chevron.jpg and
burned out, and thought Sony and Will's characters had a good job seeing
the U.S.of A. So I became an independent trucker driving a million miles
with two logs. Doing normal maintenance took all my spare time, giving
me a bunch more mechanic experience, but not much fun at ten cents an
hour: http://www.----------.com/kenworth.jpg
I was surveyor while in the ARMY '64 to '66, and tested all the
artillery divisions and the Honest John missile in Germany:
http://www.----------.com/proudFcivilian.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Doug wrote:
>
> The thing is Bill, with the double-cardan joint installed, I can't even see
> that zerk fitting (for the double-cardan joint ball). The skid plate that
> holds up the xfer case is right there in the way, but even then the zerk
> fitting is covered by the knuckle of the spider.
>
> Does the double-cardan joint ball and spring assembly put pressure on the
> spider to prevent wobbling?
>
> Thanks for all your responses and advice too Bill. I really appreciate it.
> Were you a mechanic in a previous life (maybe after you were in the army)?
> What unit were you in when you were in the army?