Earle Horton

"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
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> In message
<bill_gets_stuff-BE384F.12342902092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com>,
> "Melodious Thunk" wrote:
>
> >In article <44f9d8d1$0$15185$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
> > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm not sure, but Torx bolts are a favorite of Jeep. This is a
> >> recessed thing that you stick the wrench into, correct? If you
> >> can get a good look at it, and it is a Torx, it will be star-shaped.
> >>
> >> Earle
> >
> >Heh, if I could get a look at it, my head would be about 4 inches! Yes,
> >its recessed and covered with a rubber dust cap.
>
> You don't own a mirror?

Apparently not. I happened to replace the pads and rotors on my 1995
Wrangler today. 84,000 miles and hardly any wear at all, but I happened to
find it a good time to replace them. The Haynes picture shows Allen head
caliper mounting pins prior to 1990, and twelve point cap screws afterwards.
Haynes says to use a twelve point box end wrench on the later pins, but it
doesn't say which size. My 1995 has half inch head cap screws at this
location!

Another way to get a better look at things is to put the vehicle frame on
jack stands, remove the tires, and lower the axle you want to work on.

Earle
>
>
> >
> >I'll buy a set of Torx drivers & see if one'll work. Thanks.
> >
> >>
> >> "Melodious Thunk" <bill_gets_stuff@hotmail.c0m> wrote in message
> >> news:bill_gets_stuff-3464EF.11010302092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> >> > In article <44f9c060$0$15226$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
> >> > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Probably a Torx bit. Sears Craftsman, NAPA, Autozone, etc. will
have
> >> them.
> >> > >
> >> > > Earle
> >> >
> >> > Thanks, do you know for sure? And what size? I see that there's other
> >> > Torx bolts on the sway bar etc. For the calipers, the bolt heads are
> >> > obscured by little rubber dirt protectors... that clearly don't work,
> >> > since the bolt heads were well-packed with dried mud. I think I got
the
> >> > dirt out, but can't see 'em to be sure or even to figure out what
kind
> >> > of heads they are!
> >> >
> >> > Apparently, per a websearch, the Cherokee Sport used a completely
> >> > different caliper, mounted w/two 12mm bolts. So I'm asking about the
'91
> >> > Cherokee Limited 4WD.
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > > "Melodious Thunk" <bill_gets_stuff@hotmail.c0m> wrote in message
> >> > >
news:bill_gets_stuff-30B36F.10231702092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> >> > > > What tool do I use to get the front calipers off? Hex wrenches
don't
> >> > > > seem to fit & I've never done Cherokee brakes before. Thanks.

Earle Horton

"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
news:bbekf2dkvdaabf79em3hqcsuj2grnqo0ho@4ax.com...
> In message
<bill_gets_stuff-BE384F.12342902092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com>,
> "Melodious Thunk" wrote:
>
> >In article <44f9d8d1$0$15185$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
> > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm not sure, but Torx bolts are a favorite of Jeep. This is a
> >> recessed thing that you stick the wrench into, correct? If you
> >> can get a good look at it, and it is a Torx, it will be star-shaped.
> >>
> >> Earle
> >
> >Heh, if I could get a look at it, my head would be about 4 inches! Yes,
> >its recessed and covered with a rubber dust cap.
>
> You don't own a mirror?

Apparently not. I happened to replace the pads and rotors on my 1995
Wrangler today. 84,000 miles and hardly any wear at all, but I happened to
find it a good time to replace them. The Haynes picture shows Allen head
caliper mounting pins prior to 1990, and twelve point cap screws afterwards.
Haynes says to use a twelve point box end wrench on the later pins, but it
doesn't say which size. My 1995 has half inch head cap screws at this
location!

Another way to get a better look at things is to put the vehicle frame on
jack stands, remove the tires, and lower the axle you want to work on.

Earle
>
>
> >
> >I'll buy a set of Torx drivers & see if one'll work. Thanks.
> >
> >>
> >> "Melodious Thunk" <bill_gets_stuff@hotmail.c0m> wrote in message
> >> news:bill_gets_stuff-3464EF.11010302092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> >> > In article <44f9c060$0$15226$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
> >> > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Probably a Torx bit. Sears Craftsman, NAPA, Autozone, etc. will
have
> >> them.
> >> > >
> >> > > Earle
> >> >
> >> > Thanks, do you know for sure? And what size? I see that there's other
> >> > Torx bolts on the sway bar etc. For the calipers, the bolt heads are
> >> > obscured by little rubber dirt protectors... that clearly don't work,
> >> > since the bolt heads were well-packed with dried mud. I think I got
the
> >> > dirt out, but can't see 'em to be sure or even to figure out what
kind
> >> > of heads they are!
> >> >
> >> > Apparently, per a websearch, the Cherokee Sport used a completely
> >> > different caliper, mounted w/two 12mm bolts. So I'm asking about the
'91
> >> > Cherokee Limited 4WD.
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > > "Melodious Thunk" <bill_gets_stuff@hotmail.c0m> wrote in message
> >> > >
news:bill_gets_stuff-30B36F.10231702092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> >> > > > What tool do I use to get the front calipers off? Hex wrenches
don't
> >> > > > seem to fit & I've never done Cherokee brakes before. Thanks.

Mike Romain

Some use an allen key....

If you cut the steering hard to one side, you should be able to just
look at it.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Melodious Thunk wrote:
>
> What tool do I use to get the front calipers off? Hex wrenches don't
> seem to fit & I've never done Cherokee brakes before. Thanks.

Mike Romain

Some use an allen key....

If you cut the steering hard to one side, you should be able to just
look at it.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Melodious Thunk wrote:
>
> What tool do I use to get the front calipers off? Hex wrenches don't
> seem to fit & I've never done Cherokee brakes before. Thanks.

Mike Romain

Some use an allen key....

If you cut the steering hard to one side, you should be able to just
look at it.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Melodious Thunk wrote:
>
> What tool do I use to get the front calipers off? Hex wrenches don't
> seem to fit & I've never done Cherokee brakes before. Thanks.

clay

Ask to see a set of replacement pins at the autoparts store. Get a
socket to fit.
If they're anything like the ones on girlfriendzilla's Cherokee, might
as well pick up a set... and some vice grips to remove the old ones.
Seems, vice grips are the tool of choice on these when the correct
socket is not in the tool box. Hers were boogered up enough the socket
wouldn't go on...

clay

Ask to see a set of replacement pins at the autoparts store. Get a
socket to fit.
If they're anything like the ones on girlfriendzilla's Cherokee, might
as well pick up a set... and some vice grips to remove the old ones.
Seems, vice grips are the tool of choice on these when the correct
socket is not in the tool box. Hers were boogered up enough the socket
wouldn't go on...

clay

Ask to see a set of replacement pins at the autoparts store. Get a
socket to fit.
If they're anything like the ones on girlfriendzilla's Cherokee, might
as well pick up a set... and some vice grips to remove the old ones.
Seems, vice grips are the tool of choice on these when the correct
socket is not in the tool box. Hers were boogered up enough the socket
wouldn't go on...

Kevin in San Diego

Its just a 7mm allen.
I pull them all the time changing broken front shafts on the rocks.

KH



"clay" <clay@mation.com> wrote in message
news:oFgLg.8105$yO7.2414@newssvr14.news.prodigy.co m...
> Ask to see a set of replacement pins at the autoparts store. Get a socket
> to fit.
> If they're anything like the ones on girlfriendzilla's Cherokee, might as
> well pick up a set... and some vice grips to remove the old ones. Seems,
> vice grips are the tool of choice on these when the correct socket is not
> in the tool box. Hers were boogered up enough the socket wouldn't go on...

Kevin in San Diego

Its just a 7mm allen.
I pull them all the time changing broken front shafts on the rocks.

KH



"clay" <clay@mation.com> wrote in message
news:oFgLg.8105$yO7.2414@newssvr14.news.prodigy.co m...
> Ask to see a set of replacement pins at the autoparts store. Get a socket
> to fit.
> If they're anything like the ones on girlfriendzilla's Cherokee, might as
> well pick up a set... and some vice grips to remove the old ones. Seems,
> vice grips are the tool of choice on these when the correct socket is not
> in the tool box. Hers were boogered up enough the socket wouldn't go on...