Troy

Heh yeah to be honest I was about to trade it in for a Honda, even though
they wouldn't have given me squat for it I was so tired of it. I had to
break the salesman's heart today and tell him no thanks and that I got it
running and it was good for another 150k miles (hopefully)

Troy


"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:92177$44f0d81d$48311eaf$2927@FUSE.NET...
> See..... good thing can happen !
>
> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
> news:B5-dndKTYvr4SW3ZnZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Well either cleaning the sensor really well or pluggin back in the fan or
>> both seems to have worked. I just drove it like a bat outta hell and
>> parked it, started it, left it there for 30 minutes, started it, left it
>> there for an hour, started it.
>>
>> Now I'll just have to let time tell if its really fixed. Unfortunately
>> now with it's track record of leaving me stranded nobody will ride with
>> me anymore.
>>
>> Troy
>>
>> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>> news:67ydnb--38GW8nLZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> OK so I get there and use a good spray cleaner on it, half a can to
>>> clean up the mess where the cps was and a little for the plug. I was
>>> amazed at how clean it was under there. Everything went shiny. Noticed
>>> the wire was a bit close to the exhaust manifold so I arranged it away
>>> from everything metal that might hold heat against it. It has a thin
>>> tube around the 2 wires, maybe I should put more insulation around it?
>>> Drove the 10 miles home and parked it. Came back outside 30 minutes
>>> later and it wouldn't crank. I opened the hood and it was pretty hot in
>>> the engine compartment, then it hit me about disconnecting the
>>> electrical fan because I finally stopped it from overheating.
>>>
>>> The electrical fan was rigged to run all the time from the previous
>>> owner, and realized it blew straight across the exhaust manifold and
>>> even the cps sensor wire/area. I let it blow about 10 seconds and it
>>> cranked right up. I made a few test runs and it started every time.
>>>
>>> Either one or both of those helped enough to fix it for today. Tomorrow
>>> I will give it a good workout to see if its really fixed.
>>>
>>> Troy
>>>
>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:44EF0268.51264A1C@sympatico.ca...
>>>> The connection can be cleaned from above without taking it off. WD40
>>>> will work in a pinch, but a real spray contact cleaner is best.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> Troy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So I should take it off, thoroughly clean everything, everywhere, and
>>>>> put it
>>>>> back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a
>>>>> multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and
>>>>> check it
>>>>> out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get
>>>>> someone
>>>>> to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I
>>>>> can
>>>>> remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes
>>>>> have a
>>>>> very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Troy
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>> news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca...
>>>>> > Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The
>>>>> > plug
>>>>> > 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only
>>>>> > cleans
>>>>> > half the connection.....
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Mike
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Troy wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it
>>>>> >> was
>>>>> >> near
>>>>> >> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll take
>>>>> >> it
>>>>> >> off
>>>>> >> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to
>>>>> >> it and
>>>>> >> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet
>>>>> >> to get
>>>>> >> to
>>>>> >> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms
>>>>> >> hold it
>>>>> >> from
>>>>> >> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know how
>>>>> >> it
>>>>> >> turns
>>>>> >> out.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Troy
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>>> >> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@***.net...
>>>>> >> > Hi Troy,
>>>>> >> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for
>>>>> >> > the
>>>>> >> > taped adjustment clearance:
>>>>> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
>>>>> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Troy wrote:
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my
>>>>> >> >> brother's
>>>>> >> >> house,
>>>>> >> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just
>>>>> >> >> to see
>>>>> >> >> if
>>>>> >> >> it
>>>>> >> >> cranks up.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition
>>>>> >> >> control
>>>>> >> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's
>>>>> >> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up
>>>>> >> >> was warm
>>>>> >> >> all
>>>>> >> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw
>>>>> >> >> no
>>>>> >> >> spark
>>>>> >> >> while cranking.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
>>>>> >> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with
>>>>> >> >> contact,
>>>>> >> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which
>>>>> >> >> failed the
>>>>> >> >> test
>>>>> >> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is
>>>>> >> >> strong
>>>>> >> >> and
>>>>> >> >> not
>>>>> >> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it
>>>>> >> >> would
>>>>> >> >> give
>>>>> >> >> and it held strong.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it
>>>>> >> >> will
>>>>> >> >> crank
>>>>> >> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot
>>>>> >> >> and
>>>>> >> >> not
>>>>> >> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when
>>>>> >> >> I go
>>>>> >> >> over
>>>>> >> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and
>>>>> >> >> have
>>>>> >> >> all
>>>>> >> >> my
>>>>> >> >> tools out with my multitester.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was
>>>>> >> >> considering
>>>>> >> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas
>>>>> >> >> but I
>>>>> >> >> love
>>>>> >> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going
>>>>> >> >> to
>>>>> >> >> give
>>>>> >> >> it
>>>>> >> >> the boot.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3
>>>>> >> >> day
>>>>> >> >> weekend,
>>>>> >> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end
>>>>> >> >> of my
>>>>> >> >> rope
>>>>> >> >> with this thing.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Troy
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Troy

Heh yeah to be honest I was about to trade it in for a Honda, even though
they wouldn't have given me squat for it I was so tired of it. I had to
break the salesman's heart today and tell him no thanks and that I got it
running and it was good for another 150k miles (hopefully)

Troy


"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:92177$44f0d81d$48311eaf$2927@FUSE.NET...
> See..... good thing can happen !
>
> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
> news:B5-dndKTYvr4SW3ZnZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Well either cleaning the sensor really well or pluggin back in the fan or
>> both seems to have worked. I just drove it like a bat outta hell and
>> parked it, started it, left it there for 30 minutes, started it, left it
>> there for an hour, started it.
>>
>> Now I'll just have to let time tell if its really fixed. Unfortunately
>> now with it's track record of leaving me stranded nobody will ride with
>> me anymore.
>>
>> Troy
>>
>> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>> news:67ydnb--38GW8nLZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> OK so I get there and use a good spray cleaner on it, half a can to
>>> clean up the mess where the cps was and a little for the plug. I was
>>> amazed at how clean it was under there. Everything went shiny. Noticed
>>> the wire was a bit close to the exhaust manifold so I arranged it away
>>> from everything metal that might hold heat against it. It has a thin
>>> tube around the 2 wires, maybe I should put more insulation around it?
>>> Drove the 10 miles home and parked it. Came back outside 30 minutes
>>> later and it wouldn't crank. I opened the hood and it was pretty hot in
>>> the engine compartment, then it hit me about disconnecting the
>>> electrical fan because I finally stopped it from overheating.
>>>
>>> The electrical fan was rigged to run all the time from the previous
>>> owner, and realized it blew straight across the exhaust manifold and
>>> even the cps sensor wire/area. I let it blow about 10 seconds and it
>>> cranked right up. I made a few test runs and it started every time.
>>>
>>> Either one or both of those helped enough to fix it for today. Tomorrow
>>> I will give it a good workout to see if its really fixed.
>>>
>>> Troy
>>>
>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:44EF0268.51264A1C@sympatico.ca...
>>>> The connection can be cleaned from above without taking it off. WD40
>>>> will work in a pinch, but a real spray contact cleaner is best.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> Troy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So I should take it off, thoroughly clean everything, everywhere, and
>>>>> put it
>>>>> back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a
>>>>> multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and
>>>>> check it
>>>>> out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get
>>>>> someone
>>>>> to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I
>>>>> can
>>>>> remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes
>>>>> have a
>>>>> very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Troy
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>> news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca...
>>>>> > Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The
>>>>> > plug
>>>>> > 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only
>>>>> > cleans
>>>>> > half the connection.....
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Mike
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Troy wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it
>>>>> >> was
>>>>> >> near
>>>>> >> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll take
>>>>> >> it
>>>>> >> off
>>>>> >> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to
>>>>> >> it and
>>>>> >> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet
>>>>> >> to get
>>>>> >> to
>>>>> >> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms
>>>>> >> hold it
>>>>> >> from
>>>>> >> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know how
>>>>> >> it
>>>>> >> turns
>>>>> >> out.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Troy
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>>> >> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@***.net...
>>>>> >> > Hi Troy,
>>>>> >> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for
>>>>> >> > the
>>>>> >> > taped adjustment clearance:
>>>>> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
>>>>> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Troy wrote:
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my
>>>>> >> >> brother's
>>>>> >> >> house,
>>>>> >> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just
>>>>> >> >> to see
>>>>> >> >> if
>>>>> >> >> it
>>>>> >> >> cranks up.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition
>>>>> >> >> control
>>>>> >> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's
>>>>> >> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up
>>>>> >> >> was warm
>>>>> >> >> all
>>>>> >> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw
>>>>> >> >> no
>>>>> >> >> spark
>>>>> >> >> while cranking.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
>>>>> >> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with
>>>>> >> >> contact,
>>>>> >> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which
>>>>> >> >> failed the
>>>>> >> >> test
>>>>> >> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is
>>>>> >> >> strong
>>>>> >> >> and
>>>>> >> >> not
>>>>> >> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it
>>>>> >> >> would
>>>>> >> >> give
>>>>> >> >> and it held strong.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it
>>>>> >> >> will
>>>>> >> >> crank
>>>>> >> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot
>>>>> >> >> and
>>>>> >> >> not
>>>>> >> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when
>>>>> >> >> I go
>>>>> >> >> over
>>>>> >> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and
>>>>> >> >> have
>>>>> >> >> all
>>>>> >> >> my
>>>>> >> >> tools out with my multitester.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was
>>>>> >> >> considering
>>>>> >> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas
>>>>> >> >> but I
>>>>> >> >> love
>>>>> >> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going
>>>>> >> >> to
>>>>> >> >> give
>>>>> >> >> it
>>>>> >> >> the boot.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3
>>>>> >> >> day
>>>>> >> >> weekend,
>>>>> >> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end
>>>>> >> >> of my
>>>>> >> >> rope
>>>>> >> >> with this thing.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Troy
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Troy

Heh yeah to be honest I was about to trade it in for a Honda, even though
they wouldn't have given me squat for it I was so tired of it. I had to
break the salesman's heart today and tell him no thanks and that I got it
running and it was good for another 150k miles (hopefully)

Troy


"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:92177$44f0d81d$48311eaf$2927@FUSE.NET...
> See..... good thing can happen !
>
> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
> news:B5-dndKTYvr4SW3ZnZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Well either cleaning the sensor really well or pluggin back in the fan or
>> both seems to have worked. I just drove it like a bat outta hell and
>> parked it, started it, left it there for 30 minutes, started it, left it
>> there for an hour, started it.
>>
>> Now I'll just have to let time tell if its really fixed. Unfortunately
>> now with it's track record of leaving me stranded nobody will ride with
>> me anymore.
>>
>> Troy
>>
>> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>> news:67ydnb--38GW8nLZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> OK so I get there and use a good spray cleaner on it, half a can to
>>> clean up the mess where the cps was and a little for the plug. I was
>>> amazed at how clean it was under there. Everything went shiny. Noticed
>>> the wire was a bit close to the exhaust manifold so I arranged it away
>>> from everything metal that might hold heat against it. It has a thin
>>> tube around the 2 wires, maybe I should put more insulation around it?
>>> Drove the 10 miles home and parked it. Came back outside 30 minutes
>>> later and it wouldn't crank. I opened the hood and it was pretty hot in
>>> the engine compartment, then it hit me about disconnecting the
>>> electrical fan because I finally stopped it from overheating.
>>>
>>> The electrical fan was rigged to run all the time from the previous
>>> owner, and realized it blew straight across the exhaust manifold and
>>> even the cps sensor wire/area. I let it blow about 10 seconds and it
>>> cranked right up. I made a few test runs and it started every time.
>>>
>>> Either one or both of those helped enough to fix it for today. Tomorrow
>>> I will give it a good workout to see if its really fixed.
>>>
>>> Troy
>>>
>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:44EF0268.51264A1C@sympatico.ca...
>>>> The connection can be cleaned from above without taking it off. WD40
>>>> will work in a pinch, but a real spray contact cleaner is best.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> Troy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So I should take it off, thoroughly clean everything, everywhere, and
>>>>> put it
>>>>> back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a
>>>>> multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and
>>>>> check it
>>>>> out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get
>>>>> someone
>>>>> to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I
>>>>> can
>>>>> remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes
>>>>> have a
>>>>> very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Troy
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>> news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca...
>>>>> > Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The
>>>>> > plug
>>>>> > 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only
>>>>> > cleans
>>>>> > half the connection.....
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Mike
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Troy wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it
>>>>> >> was
>>>>> >> near
>>>>> >> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll take
>>>>> >> it
>>>>> >> off
>>>>> >> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to
>>>>> >> it and
>>>>> >> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet
>>>>> >> to get
>>>>> >> to
>>>>> >> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms
>>>>> >> hold it
>>>>> >> from
>>>>> >> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know how
>>>>> >> it
>>>>> >> turns
>>>>> >> out.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Troy
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>>> >> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@***.net...
>>>>> >> > Hi Troy,
>>>>> >> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for
>>>>> >> > the
>>>>> >> > taped adjustment clearance:
>>>>> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
>>>>> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Troy wrote:
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my
>>>>> >> >> brother's
>>>>> >> >> house,
>>>>> >> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just
>>>>> >> >> to see
>>>>> >> >> if
>>>>> >> >> it
>>>>> >> >> cranks up.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition
>>>>> >> >> control
>>>>> >> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's
>>>>> >> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up
>>>>> >> >> was warm
>>>>> >> >> all
>>>>> >> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw
>>>>> >> >> no
>>>>> >> >> spark
>>>>> >> >> while cranking.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
>>>>> >> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with
>>>>> >> >> contact,
>>>>> >> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which
>>>>> >> >> failed the
>>>>> >> >> test
>>>>> >> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is
>>>>> >> >> strong
>>>>> >> >> and
>>>>> >> >> not
>>>>> >> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it
>>>>> >> >> would
>>>>> >> >> give
>>>>> >> >> and it held strong.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it
>>>>> >> >> will
>>>>> >> >> crank
>>>>> >> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot
>>>>> >> >> and
>>>>> >> >> not
>>>>> >> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when
>>>>> >> >> I go
>>>>> >> >> over
>>>>> >> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and
>>>>> >> >> have
>>>>> >> >> all
>>>>> >> >> my
>>>>> >> >> tools out with my multitester.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was
>>>>> >> >> considering
>>>>> >> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas
>>>>> >> >> but I
>>>>> >> >> love
>>>>> >> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going
>>>>> >> >> to
>>>>> >> >> give
>>>>> >> >> it
>>>>> >> >> the boot.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3
>>>>> >> >> day
>>>>> >> >> weekend,
>>>>> >> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end
>>>>> >> >> of my
>>>>> >> >> rope
>>>>> >> >> with this thing.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Troy
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

billy ray

I meant that it was good that no one was bothering you for rides but it
running now is good also.....<g>




"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
news:P4OdncMZ15fPe23ZnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Heh yeah to be honest I was about to trade it in for a Honda, even though
> they wouldn't have given me squat for it I was so tired of it. I had to
> break the salesman's heart today and tell him no thanks and that I got it
> running and it was good for another 150k miles (hopefully)
>
> Troy
>
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:92177$44f0d81d$48311eaf$2927@FUSE.NET...
>> See..... good thing can happen !
>>
>> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>> news:B5-dndKTYvr4SW3ZnZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> Well either cleaning the sensor really well or pluggin back in the fan
>>> or both seems to have worked. I just drove it like a bat outta hell and
>>> parked it, started it, left it there for 30 minutes, started it, left it
>>> there for an hour, started it.
>>>
>>> Now I'll just have to let time tell if its really fixed. Unfortunately
>>> now with it's track record of leaving me stranded nobody will ride with
>>> me anymore.
>>>
>>> Troy
>>>
>>> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>>> news:67ydnb--38GW8nLZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> OK so I get there and use a good spray cleaner on it, half a can to
>>>> clean up the mess where the cps was and a little for the plug. I was
>>>> amazed at how clean it was under there. Everything went shiny.
>>>> Noticed the wire was a bit close to the exhaust manifold so I arranged
>>>> it away from everything metal that might hold heat against it. It has
>>>> a thin tube around the 2 wires, maybe I should put more insulation
>>>> around it? Drove the 10 miles home and parked it. Came back outside 30
>>>> minutes later and it wouldn't crank. I opened the hood and it was
>>>> pretty hot in the engine compartment, then it hit me about
>>>> disconnecting the electrical fan because I finally stopped it from
>>>> overheating.
>>>>
>>>> The electrical fan was rigged to run all the time from the previous
>>>> owner, and realized it blew straight across the exhaust manifold and
>>>> even the cps sensor wire/area. I let it blow about 10 seconds and it
>>>> cranked right up. I made a few test runs and it started every time.
>>>>
>>>> Either one or both of those helped enough to fix it for today.
>>>> Tomorrow I will give it a good workout to see if its really fixed.
>>>>
>>>> Troy
>>>>
>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:44EF0268.51264A1C@sympatico.ca...
>>>>> The connection can be cleaned from above without taking it off. WD40
>>>>> will work in a pinch, but a real spray contact cleaner is best.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> Troy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I should take it off, thoroughly clean everything, everywhere, and
>>>>>> put it
>>>>>> back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a
>>>>>> multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and
>>>>>> check it
>>>>>> out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get
>>>>>> someone
>>>>>> to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes
>>>>>> have a
>>>>>> very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Troy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca...
>>>>>> > Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The
>>>>>> > plug
>>>>>> > 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only
>>>>>> > cleans
>>>>>> > half the connection.....
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Mike
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Troy wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it
>>>>>> >> was
>>>>>> >> near
>>>>>> >> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll
>>>>>> >> take it
>>>>>> >> off
>>>>>> >> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to
>>>>>> >> it and
>>>>>> >> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet
>>>>>> >> to get
>>>>>> >> to
>>>>>> >> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms
>>>>>> >> hold it
>>>>>> >> from
>>>>>> >> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know
>>>>>> >> how it
>>>>>> >> turns
>>>>>> >> out.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Troy
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> >> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@***.net...
>>>>>> >> > Hi Troy,
>>>>>> >> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor
>>>>>> >> > for the
>>>>>> >> > taped adjustment clearance:
>>>>>> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
>>>>>> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>>> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Troy wrote:
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my
>>>>>> >> >> brother's
>>>>>> >> >> house,
>>>>>> >> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just
>>>>>> >> >> to see
>>>>>> >> >> if
>>>>>> >> >> it
>>>>>> >> >> cranks up.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition
>>>>>> >> >> control
>>>>>> >> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the
>>>>>> >> >> engine's
>>>>>> >> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up
>>>>>> >> >> was warm
>>>>>> >> >> all
>>>>>> >> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw
>>>>>> >> >> no
>>>>>> >> >> spark
>>>>>> >> >> while cranking.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
>>>>>> >> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with
>>>>>> >> >> contact,
>>>>>> >> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which
>>>>>> >> >> failed the
>>>>>> >> >> test
>>>>>> >> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is
>>>>>> >> >> strong
>>>>>> >> >> and
>>>>>> >> >> not
>>>>>> >> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if
>>>>>> >> >> it would
>>>>>> >> >> give
>>>>>> >> >> and it held strong.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off
>>>>>> >> >> it will
>>>>>> >> >> crank
>>>>>> >> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting
>>>>>> >> >> hot and
>>>>>> >> >> not
>>>>>> >> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when
>>>>>> >> >> I go
>>>>>> >> >> over
>>>>>> >> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and
>>>>>> >> >> have
>>>>>> >> >> all
>>>>>> >> >> my
>>>>>> >> >> tools out with my multitester.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was
>>>>>> >> >> considering
>>>>>> >> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas
>>>>>> >> >> but I
>>>>>> >> >> love
>>>>>> >> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going
>>>>>> >> >> to
>>>>>> >> >> give
>>>>>> >> >> it
>>>>>> >> >> the boot.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3
>>>>>> >> >> day
>>>>>> >> >> weekend,
>>>>>> >> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end
>>>>>> >> >> of my
>>>>>> >> >> rope
>>>>>> >> >> with this thing.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Troy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

billy ray

I meant that it was good that no one was bothering you for rides but it
running now is good also.....<g>




"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
news:P4OdncMZ15fPe23ZnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Heh yeah to be honest I was about to trade it in for a Honda, even though
> they wouldn't have given me squat for it I was so tired of it. I had to
> break the salesman's heart today and tell him no thanks and that I got it
> running and it was good for another 150k miles (hopefully)
>
> Troy
>
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:92177$44f0d81d$48311eaf$2927@FUSE.NET...
>> See..... good thing can happen !
>>
>> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>> news:B5-dndKTYvr4SW3ZnZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> Well either cleaning the sensor really well or pluggin back in the fan
>>> or both seems to have worked. I just drove it like a bat outta hell and
>>> parked it, started it, left it there for 30 minutes, started it, left it
>>> there for an hour, started it.
>>>
>>> Now I'll just have to let time tell if its really fixed. Unfortunately
>>> now with it's track record of leaving me stranded nobody will ride with
>>> me anymore.
>>>
>>> Troy
>>>
>>> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>>> news:67ydnb--38GW8nLZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> OK so I get there and use a good spray cleaner on it, half a can to
>>>> clean up the mess where the cps was and a little for the plug. I was
>>>> amazed at how clean it was under there. Everything went shiny.
>>>> Noticed the wire was a bit close to the exhaust manifold so I arranged
>>>> it away from everything metal that might hold heat against it. It has
>>>> a thin tube around the 2 wires, maybe I should put more insulation
>>>> around it? Drove the 10 miles home and parked it. Came back outside 30
>>>> minutes later and it wouldn't crank. I opened the hood and it was
>>>> pretty hot in the engine compartment, then it hit me about
>>>> disconnecting the electrical fan because I finally stopped it from
>>>> overheating.
>>>>
>>>> The electrical fan was rigged to run all the time from the previous
>>>> owner, and realized it blew straight across the exhaust manifold and
>>>> even the cps sensor wire/area. I let it blow about 10 seconds and it
>>>> cranked right up. I made a few test runs and it started every time.
>>>>
>>>> Either one or both of those helped enough to fix it for today.
>>>> Tomorrow I will give it a good workout to see if its really fixed.
>>>>
>>>> Troy
>>>>
>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:44EF0268.51264A1C@sympatico.ca...
>>>>> The connection can be cleaned from above without taking it off. WD40
>>>>> will work in a pinch, but a real spray contact cleaner is best.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> Troy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I should take it off, thoroughly clean everything, everywhere, and
>>>>>> put it
>>>>>> back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a
>>>>>> multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and
>>>>>> check it
>>>>>> out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get
>>>>>> someone
>>>>>> to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes
>>>>>> have a
>>>>>> very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Troy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca...
>>>>>> > Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The
>>>>>> > plug
>>>>>> > 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only
>>>>>> > cleans
>>>>>> > half the connection.....
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Mike
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Troy wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it
>>>>>> >> was
>>>>>> >> near
>>>>>> >> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll
>>>>>> >> take it
>>>>>> >> off
>>>>>> >> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to
>>>>>> >> it and
>>>>>> >> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet
>>>>>> >> to get
>>>>>> >> to
>>>>>> >> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms
>>>>>> >> hold it
>>>>>> >> from
>>>>>> >> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know
>>>>>> >> how it
>>>>>> >> turns
>>>>>> >> out.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Troy
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> >> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@***.net...
>>>>>> >> > Hi Troy,
>>>>>> >> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor
>>>>>> >> > for the
>>>>>> >> > taped adjustment clearance:
>>>>>> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
>>>>>> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>>> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Troy wrote:
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my
>>>>>> >> >> brother's
>>>>>> >> >> house,
>>>>>> >> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just
>>>>>> >> >> to see
>>>>>> >> >> if
>>>>>> >> >> it
>>>>>> >> >> cranks up.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition
>>>>>> >> >> control
>>>>>> >> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the
>>>>>> >> >> engine's
>>>>>> >> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up
>>>>>> >> >> was warm
>>>>>> >> >> all
>>>>>> >> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw
>>>>>> >> >> no
>>>>>> >> >> spark
>>>>>> >> >> while cranking.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
>>>>>> >> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with
>>>>>> >> >> contact,
>>>>>> >> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which
>>>>>> >> >> failed the
>>>>>> >> >> test
>>>>>> >> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is
>>>>>> >> >> strong
>>>>>> >> >> and
>>>>>> >> >> not
>>>>>> >> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if
>>>>>> >> >> it would
>>>>>> >> >> give
>>>>>> >> >> and it held strong.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off
>>>>>> >> >> it will
>>>>>> >> >> crank
>>>>>> >> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting
>>>>>> >> >> hot and
>>>>>> >> >> not
>>>>>> >> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when
>>>>>> >> >> I go
>>>>>> >> >> over
>>>>>> >> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and
>>>>>> >> >> have
>>>>>> >> >> all
>>>>>> >> >> my
>>>>>> >> >> tools out with my multitester.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was
>>>>>> >> >> considering
>>>>>> >> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas
>>>>>> >> >> but I
>>>>>> >> >> love
>>>>>> >> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going
>>>>>> >> >> to
>>>>>> >> >> give
>>>>>> >> >> it
>>>>>> >> >> the boot.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3
>>>>>> >> >> day
>>>>>> >> >> weekend,
>>>>>> >> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end
>>>>>> >> >> of my
>>>>>> >> >> rope
>>>>>> >> >> with this thing.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Troy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

billy ray

I meant that it was good that no one was bothering you for rides but it
running now is good also.....<g>




"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
news:P4OdncMZ15fPe23ZnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Heh yeah to be honest I was about to trade it in for a Honda, even though
> they wouldn't have given me squat for it I was so tired of it. I had to
> break the salesman's heart today and tell him no thanks and that I got it
> running and it was good for another 150k miles (hopefully)
>
> Troy
>
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:92177$44f0d81d$48311eaf$2927@FUSE.NET...
>> See..... good thing can happen !
>>
>> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>> news:B5-dndKTYvr4SW3ZnZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> Well either cleaning the sensor really well or pluggin back in the fan
>>> or both seems to have worked. I just drove it like a bat outta hell and
>>> parked it, started it, left it there for 30 minutes, started it, left it
>>> there for an hour, started it.
>>>
>>> Now I'll just have to let time tell if its really fixed. Unfortunately
>>> now with it's track record of leaving me stranded nobody will ride with
>>> me anymore.
>>>
>>> Troy
>>>
>>> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>>> news:67ydnb--38GW8nLZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> OK so I get there and use a good spray cleaner on it, half a can to
>>>> clean up the mess where the cps was and a little for the plug. I was
>>>> amazed at how clean it was under there. Everything went shiny.
>>>> Noticed the wire was a bit close to the exhaust manifold so I arranged
>>>> it away from everything metal that might hold heat against it. It has
>>>> a thin tube around the 2 wires, maybe I should put more insulation
>>>> around it? Drove the 10 miles home and parked it. Came back outside 30
>>>> minutes later and it wouldn't crank. I opened the hood and it was
>>>> pretty hot in the engine compartment, then it hit me about
>>>> disconnecting the electrical fan because I finally stopped it from
>>>> overheating.
>>>>
>>>> The electrical fan was rigged to run all the time from the previous
>>>> owner, and realized it blew straight across the exhaust manifold and
>>>> even the cps sensor wire/area. I let it blow about 10 seconds and it
>>>> cranked right up. I made a few test runs and it started every time.
>>>>
>>>> Either one or both of those helped enough to fix it for today.
>>>> Tomorrow I will give it a good workout to see if its really fixed.
>>>>
>>>> Troy
>>>>
>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:44EF0268.51264A1C@sympatico.ca...
>>>>> The connection can be cleaned from above without taking it off. WD40
>>>>> will work in a pinch, but a real spray contact cleaner is best.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> Troy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I should take it off, thoroughly clean everything, everywhere, and
>>>>>> put it
>>>>>> back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a
>>>>>> multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and
>>>>>> check it
>>>>>> out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get
>>>>>> someone
>>>>>> to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes
>>>>>> have a
>>>>>> very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Troy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca...
>>>>>> > Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The
>>>>>> > plug
>>>>>> > 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only
>>>>>> > cleans
>>>>>> > half the connection.....
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Mike
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Troy wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it
>>>>>> >> was
>>>>>> >> near
>>>>>> >> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll
>>>>>> >> take it
>>>>>> >> off
>>>>>> >> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to
>>>>>> >> it and
>>>>>> >> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet
>>>>>> >> to get
>>>>>> >> to
>>>>>> >> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms
>>>>>> >> hold it
>>>>>> >> from
>>>>>> >> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know
>>>>>> >> how it
>>>>>> >> turns
>>>>>> >> out.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Troy
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> >> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@***.net...
>>>>>> >> > Hi Troy,
>>>>>> >> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor
>>>>>> >> > for the
>>>>>> >> > taped adjustment clearance:
>>>>>> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
>>>>>> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>>> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Troy wrote:
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my
>>>>>> >> >> brother's
>>>>>> >> >> house,
>>>>>> >> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just
>>>>>> >> >> to see
>>>>>> >> >> if
>>>>>> >> >> it
>>>>>> >> >> cranks up.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition
>>>>>> >> >> control
>>>>>> >> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the
>>>>>> >> >> engine's
>>>>>> >> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up
>>>>>> >> >> was warm
>>>>>> >> >> all
>>>>>> >> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw
>>>>>> >> >> no
>>>>>> >> >> spark
>>>>>> >> >> while cranking.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
>>>>>> >> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with
>>>>>> >> >> contact,
>>>>>> >> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which
>>>>>> >> >> failed the
>>>>>> >> >> test
>>>>>> >> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is
>>>>>> >> >> strong
>>>>>> >> >> and
>>>>>> >> >> not
>>>>>> >> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if
>>>>>> >> >> it would
>>>>>> >> >> give
>>>>>> >> >> and it held strong.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off
>>>>>> >> >> it will
>>>>>> >> >> crank
>>>>>> >> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting
>>>>>> >> >> hot and
>>>>>> >> >> not
>>>>>> >> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when
>>>>>> >> >> I go
>>>>>> >> >> over
>>>>>> >> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and
>>>>>> >> >> have
>>>>>> >> >> all
>>>>>> >> >> my
>>>>>> >> >> tools out with my multitester.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was
>>>>>> >> >> considering
>>>>>> >> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas
>>>>>> >> >> but I
>>>>>> >> >> love
>>>>>> >> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going
>>>>>> >> >> to
>>>>>> >> >> give
>>>>>> >> >> it
>>>>>> >> >> the boot.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3
>>>>>> >> >> day
>>>>>> >> >> weekend,
>>>>>> >> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end
>>>>>> >> >> of my
>>>>>> >> >> rope
>>>>>> >> >> with this thing.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Troy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

billy ray

I meant that it was good that no one was bothering you for rides but it
running now is good also.....<g>




"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
news:P4OdncMZ15fPe23ZnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Heh yeah to be honest I was about to trade it in for a Honda, even though
> they wouldn't have given me squat for it I was so tired of it. I had to
> break the salesman's heart today and tell him no thanks and that I got it
> running and it was good for another 150k miles (hopefully)
>
> Troy
>
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:92177$44f0d81d$48311eaf$2927@FUSE.NET...
>> See..... good thing can happen !
>>
>> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>> news:B5-dndKTYvr4SW3ZnZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> Well either cleaning the sensor really well or pluggin back in the fan
>>> or both seems to have worked. I just drove it like a bat outta hell and
>>> parked it, started it, left it there for 30 minutes, started it, left it
>>> there for an hour, started it.
>>>
>>> Now I'll just have to let time tell if its really fixed. Unfortunately
>>> now with it's track record of leaving me stranded nobody will ride with
>>> me anymore.
>>>
>>> Troy
>>>
>>> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>>> news:67ydnb--38GW8nLZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> OK so I get there and use a good spray cleaner on it, half a can to
>>>> clean up the mess where the cps was and a little for the plug. I was
>>>> amazed at how clean it was under there. Everything went shiny.
>>>> Noticed the wire was a bit close to the exhaust manifold so I arranged
>>>> it away from everything metal that might hold heat against it. It has
>>>> a thin tube around the 2 wires, maybe I should put more insulation
>>>> around it? Drove the 10 miles home and parked it. Came back outside 30
>>>> minutes later and it wouldn't crank. I opened the hood and it was
>>>> pretty hot in the engine compartment, then it hit me about
>>>> disconnecting the electrical fan because I finally stopped it from
>>>> overheating.
>>>>
>>>> The electrical fan was rigged to run all the time from the previous
>>>> owner, and realized it blew straight across the exhaust manifold and
>>>> even the cps sensor wire/area. I let it blow about 10 seconds and it
>>>> cranked right up. I made a few test runs and it started every time.
>>>>
>>>> Either one or both of those helped enough to fix it for today.
>>>> Tomorrow I will give it a good workout to see if its really fixed.
>>>>
>>>> Troy
>>>>
>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:44EF0268.51264A1C@sympatico.ca...
>>>>> The connection can be cleaned from above without taking it off. WD40
>>>>> will work in a pinch, but a real spray contact cleaner is best.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> Troy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I should take it off, thoroughly clean everything, everywhere, and
>>>>>> put it
>>>>>> back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a
>>>>>> multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and
>>>>>> check it
>>>>>> out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get
>>>>>> someone
>>>>>> to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes
>>>>>> have a
>>>>>> very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Troy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca...
>>>>>> > Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The
>>>>>> > plug
>>>>>> > 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only
>>>>>> > cleans
>>>>>> > half the connection.....
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Mike
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Troy wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it
>>>>>> >> was
>>>>>> >> near
>>>>>> >> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll
>>>>>> >> take it
>>>>>> >> off
>>>>>> >> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to
>>>>>> >> it and
>>>>>> >> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet
>>>>>> >> to get
>>>>>> >> to
>>>>>> >> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms
>>>>>> >> hold it
>>>>>> >> from
>>>>>> >> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know
>>>>>> >> how it
>>>>>> >> turns
>>>>>> >> out.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Troy
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> >> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@***.net...
>>>>>> >> > Hi Troy,
>>>>>> >> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor
>>>>>> >> > for the
>>>>>> >> > taped adjustment clearance:
>>>>>> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
>>>>>> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>>> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Troy wrote:
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my
>>>>>> >> >> brother's
>>>>>> >> >> house,
>>>>>> >> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just
>>>>>> >> >> to see
>>>>>> >> >> if
>>>>>> >> >> it
>>>>>> >> >> cranks up.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition
>>>>>> >> >> control
>>>>>> >> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the
>>>>>> >> >> engine's
>>>>>> >> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up
>>>>>> >> >> was warm
>>>>>> >> >> all
>>>>>> >> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw
>>>>>> >> >> no
>>>>>> >> >> spark
>>>>>> >> >> while cranking.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
>>>>>> >> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with
>>>>>> >> >> contact,
>>>>>> >> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which
>>>>>> >> >> failed the
>>>>>> >> >> test
>>>>>> >> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is
>>>>>> >> >> strong
>>>>>> >> >> and
>>>>>> >> >> not
>>>>>> >> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if
>>>>>> >> >> it would
>>>>>> >> >> give
>>>>>> >> >> and it held strong.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off
>>>>>> >> >> it will
>>>>>> >> >> crank
>>>>>> >> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting
>>>>>> >> >> hot and
>>>>>> >> >> not
>>>>>> >> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when
>>>>>> >> >> I go
>>>>>> >> >> over
>>>>>> >> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and
>>>>>> >> >> have
>>>>>> >> >> all
>>>>>> >> >> my
>>>>>> >> >> tools out with my multitester.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was
>>>>>> >> >> considering
>>>>>> >> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas
>>>>>> >> >> but I
>>>>>> >> >> love
>>>>>> >> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going
>>>>>> >> >> to
>>>>>> >> >> give
>>>>>> >> >> it
>>>>>> >> >> the boot.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3
>>>>>> >> >> day
>>>>>> >> >> weekend,
>>>>>> >> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end
>>>>>> >> >> of my
>>>>>> >> >> rope
>>>>>> >> >> with this thing.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Troy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Troy

HA!

Troy


"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:5ebf3$44f11a12$48311eaf$6035@FUSE.NET...
>I meant that it was good that no one was bothering you for rides but it
>running now is good also.....<g>
>
>
>
>
> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
> news:P4OdncMZ15fPe23ZnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Heh yeah to be honest I was about to trade it in for a Honda, even though
>> they wouldn't have given me squat for it I was so tired of it. I had to
>> break the salesman's heart today and tell him no thanks and that I got it
>> running and it was good for another 150k miles (hopefully)
>>
>> Troy
>>
>>
>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:92177$44f0d81d$48311eaf$2927@FUSE.NET...
>>> See..... good thing can happen !
>>>
>>> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>>> news:B5-dndKTYvr4SW3ZnZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> Well either cleaning the sensor really well or pluggin back in the fan
>>>> or both seems to have worked. I just drove it like a bat outta hell
>>>> and parked it, started it, left it there for 30 minutes, started it,
>>>> left it there for an hour, started it.
>>>>
>>>> Now I'll just have to let time tell if its really fixed. Unfortunately
>>>> now with it's track record of leaving me stranded nobody will ride with
>>>> me anymore.
>>>>
>>>> Troy
>>>>
>>>> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>>>> news:67ydnb--38GW8nLZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>> OK so I get there and use a good spray cleaner on it, half a can to
>>>>> clean up the mess where the cps was and a little for the plug. I was
>>>>> amazed at how clean it was under there. Everything went shiny.
>>>>> Noticed the wire was a bit close to the exhaust manifold so I arranged
>>>>> it away from everything metal that might hold heat against it. It has
>>>>> a thin tube around the 2 wires, maybe I should put more insulation
>>>>> around it? Drove the 10 miles home and parked it. Came back outside
>>>>> 30 minutes later and it wouldn't crank. I opened the hood and it was
>>>>> pretty hot in the engine compartment, then it hit me about
>>>>> disconnecting the electrical fan because I finally stopped it from
>>>>> overheating.
>>>>>
>>>>> The electrical fan was rigged to run all the time from the previous
>>>>> owner, and realized it blew straight across the exhaust manifold and
>>>>> even the cps sensor wire/area. I let it blow about 10 seconds and it
>>>>> cranked right up. I made a few test runs and it started every time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Either one or both of those helped enough to fix it for today.
>>>>> Tomorrow I will give it a good workout to see if its really fixed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Troy
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>> news:44EF0268.51264A1C@sympatico.ca...
>>>>>> The connection can be cleaned from above without taking it off. WD40
>>>>>> will work in a pinch, but a real spray contact cleaner is best.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Troy wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I should take it off, thoroughly clean everything, everywhere,
>>>>>>> and put it
>>>>>>> back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a
>>>>>>> multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and
>>>>>>> check it
>>>>>>> out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get
>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>> to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes
>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>> very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Troy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca...
>>>>>>> > Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The
>>>>>>> > plug
>>>>>>> > 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only
>>>>>>> > cleans
>>>>>>> > half the connection.....
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Mike
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Troy wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it
>>>>>>> >> was
>>>>>>> >> near
>>>>>>> >> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll
>>>>>>> >> take it
>>>>>>> >> off
>>>>>>> >> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting
>>>>>>> >> to it and
>>>>>>> >> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my
>>>>>>> >> ratchet to get
>>>>>>> >> to
>>>>>>> >> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms
>>>>>>> >> hold it
>>>>>>> >> from
>>>>>>> >> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know
>>>>>>> >> how it
>>>>>>> >> turns
>>>>>>> >> out.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Troy
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> >> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@***.net...
>>>>>>> >> > Hi Troy,
>>>>>>> >> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor
>>>>>>> >> > for the
>>>>>>> >> > taped adjustment clearance:
>>>>>>> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
>>>>>>> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>>>> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > Troy wrote:
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my
>>>>>>> >> >> brother's
>>>>>>> >> >> house,
>>>>>>> >> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just
>>>>>>> >> >> to see
>>>>>>> >> >> if
>>>>>>> >> >> it
>>>>>>> >> >> cranks up.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the
>>>>>>> >> >> ignition
>>>>>>> >> >> control
>>>>>>> >> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the
>>>>>>> >> >> engine's
>>>>>>> >> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up
>>>>>>> >> >> was warm
>>>>>>> >> >> all
>>>>>>> >> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and
>>>>>>> >> >> saw no
>>>>>>> >> >> spark
>>>>>>> >> >> while cranking.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
>>>>>>> >> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap
>>>>>>> >> >> with
>>>>>>> >> >> contact,
>>>>>>> >> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which
>>>>>>> >> >> failed the
>>>>>>> >> >> test
>>>>>>> >> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is
>>>>>>> >> >> strong
>>>>>>> >> >> and
>>>>>>> >> >> not
>>>>>>> >> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if
>>>>>>> >> >> it would
>>>>>>> >> >> give
>>>>>>> >> >> and it held strong.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off
>>>>>>> >> >> it will
>>>>>>> >> >> crank
>>>>>>> >> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting
>>>>>>> >> >> hot and
>>>>>>> >> >> not
>>>>>>> >> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure
>>>>>>> >> >> when I go
>>>>>>> >> >> over
>>>>>>> >> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home
>>>>>>> >> >> and have
>>>>>>> >> >> all
>>>>>>> >> >> my
>>>>>>> >> >> tools out with my multitester.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was
>>>>>>> >> >> considering
>>>>>>> >> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas
>>>>>>> >> >> but I
>>>>>>> >> >> love
>>>>>>> >> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am
>>>>>>> >> >> going to
>>>>>>> >> >> give
>>>>>>> >> >> it
>>>>>>> >> >> the boot.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his
>>>>>>> >> >> 3 day
>>>>>>> >> >> weekend,
>>>>>>> >> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end
>>>>>>> >> >> of my
>>>>>>> >> >> rope
>>>>>>> >> >> with this thing.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> Troy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Troy

HA!

Troy


"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:5ebf3$44f11a12$48311eaf$6035@FUSE.NET...
>I meant that it was good that no one was bothering you for rides but it
>running now is good also.....<g>
>
>
>
>
> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
> news:P4OdncMZ15fPe23ZnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Heh yeah to be honest I was about to trade it in for a Honda, even though
>> they wouldn't have given me squat for it I was so tired of it. I had to
>> break the salesman's heart today and tell him no thanks and that I got it
>> running and it was good for another 150k miles (hopefully)
>>
>> Troy
>>
>>
>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:92177$44f0d81d$48311eaf$2927@FUSE.NET...
>>> See..... good thing can happen !
>>>
>>> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>>> news:B5-dndKTYvr4SW3ZnZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> Well either cleaning the sensor really well or pluggin back in the fan
>>>> or both seems to have worked. I just drove it like a bat outta hell
>>>> and parked it, started it, left it there for 30 minutes, started it,
>>>> left it there for an hour, started it.
>>>>
>>>> Now I'll just have to let time tell if its really fixed. Unfortunately
>>>> now with it's track record of leaving me stranded nobody will ride with
>>>> me anymore.
>>>>
>>>> Troy
>>>>
>>>> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>>>> news:67ydnb--38GW8nLZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>> OK so I get there and use a good spray cleaner on it, half a can to
>>>>> clean up the mess where the cps was and a little for the plug. I was
>>>>> amazed at how clean it was under there. Everything went shiny.
>>>>> Noticed the wire was a bit close to the exhaust manifold so I arranged
>>>>> it away from everything metal that might hold heat against it. It has
>>>>> a thin tube around the 2 wires, maybe I should put more insulation
>>>>> around it? Drove the 10 miles home and parked it. Came back outside
>>>>> 30 minutes later and it wouldn't crank. I opened the hood and it was
>>>>> pretty hot in the engine compartment, then it hit me about
>>>>> disconnecting the electrical fan because I finally stopped it from
>>>>> overheating.
>>>>>
>>>>> The electrical fan was rigged to run all the time from the previous
>>>>> owner, and realized it blew straight across the exhaust manifold and
>>>>> even the cps sensor wire/area. I let it blow about 10 seconds and it
>>>>> cranked right up. I made a few test runs and it started every time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Either one or both of those helped enough to fix it for today.
>>>>> Tomorrow I will give it a good workout to see if its really fixed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Troy
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>> news:44EF0268.51264A1C@sympatico.ca...
>>>>>> The connection can be cleaned from above without taking it off. WD40
>>>>>> will work in a pinch, but a real spray contact cleaner is best.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Troy wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I should take it off, thoroughly clean everything, everywhere,
>>>>>>> and put it
>>>>>>> back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a
>>>>>>> multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and
>>>>>>> check it
>>>>>>> out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get
>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>> to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes
>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>> very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Troy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca...
>>>>>>> > Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The
>>>>>>> > plug
>>>>>>> > 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only
>>>>>>> > cleans
>>>>>>> > half the connection.....
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Mike
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Troy wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it
>>>>>>> >> was
>>>>>>> >> near
>>>>>>> >> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll
>>>>>>> >> take it
>>>>>>> >> off
>>>>>>> >> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting
>>>>>>> >> to it and
>>>>>>> >> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my
>>>>>>> >> ratchet to get
>>>>>>> >> to
>>>>>>> >> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms
>>>>>>> >> hold it
>>>>>>> >> from
>>>>>>> >> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know
>>>>>>> >> how it
>>>>>>> >> turns
>>>>>>> >> out.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Troy
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> >> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@***.net...
>>>>>>> >> > Hi Troy,
>>>>>>> >> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor
>>>>>>> >> > for the
>>>>>>> >> > taped adjustment clearance:
>>>>>>> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
>>>>>>> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>>>> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > Troy wrote:
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my
>>>>>>> >> >> brother's
>>>>>>> >> >> house,
>>>>>>> >> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just
>>>>>>> >> >> to see
>>>>>>> >> >> if
>>>>>>> >> >> it
>>>>>>> >> >> cranks up.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the
>>>>>>> >> >> ignition
>>>>>>> >> >> control
>>>>>>> >> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the
>>>>>>> >> >> engine's
>>>>>>> >> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up
>>>>>>> >> >> was warm
>>>>>>> >> >> all
>>>>>>> >> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and
>>>>>>> >> >> saw no
>>>>>>> >> >> spark
>>>>>>> >> >> while cranking.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
>>>>>>> >> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap
>>>>>>> >> >> with
>>>>>>> >> >> contact,
>>>>>>> >> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which
>>>>>>> >> >> failed the
>>>>>>> >> >> test
>>>>>>> >> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is
>>>>>>> >> >> strong
>>>>>>> >> >> and
>>>>>>> >> >> not
>>>>>>> >> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if
>>>>>>> >> >> it would
>>>>>>> >> >> give
>>>>>>> >> >> and it held strong.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off
>>>>>>> >> >> it will
>>>>>>> >> >> crank
>>>>>>> >> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting
>>>>>>> >> >> hot and
>>>>>>> >> >> not
>>>>>>> >> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure
>>>>>>> >> >> when I go
>>>>>>> >> >> over
>>>>>>> >> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home
>>>>>>> >> >> and have
>>>>>>> >> >> all
>>>>>>> >> >> my
>>>>>>> >> >> tools out with my multitester.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was
>>>>>>> >> >> considering
>>>>>>> >> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas
>>>>>>> >> >> but I
>>>>>>> >> >> love
>>>>>>> >> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am
>>>>>>> >> >> going to
>>>>>>> >> >> give
>>>>>>> >> >> it
>>>>>>> >> >> the boot.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his
>>>>>>> >> >> 3 day
>>>>>>> >> >> weekend,
>>>>>>> >> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end
>>>>>>> >> >> of my
>>>>>>> >> >> rope
>>>>>>> >> >> with this thing.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> Troy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Troy

HA!

Troy


"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:5ebf3$44f11a12$48311eaf$6035@FUSE.NET...
>I meant that it was good that no one was bothering you for rides but it
>running now is good also.....<g>
>
>
>
>
> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
> news:P4OdncMZ15fPe23ZnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Heh yeah to be honest I was about to trade it in for a Honda, even though
>> they wouldn't have given me squat for it I was so tired of it. I had to
>> break the salesman's heart today and tell him no thanks and that I got it
>> running and it was good for another 150k miles (hopefully)
>>
>> Troy
>>
>>
>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:92177$44f0d81d$48311eaf$2927@FUSE.NET...
>>> See..... good thing can happen !
>>>
>>> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>>> news:B5-dndKTYvr4SW3ZnZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> Well either cleaning the sensor really well or pluggin back in the fan
>>>> or both seems to have worked. I just drove it like a bat outta hell
>>>> and parked it, started it, left it there for 30 minutes, started it,
>>>> left it there for an hour, started it.
>>>>
>>>> Now I'll just have to let time tell if its really fixed. Unfortunately
>>>> now with it's track record of leaving me stranded nobody will ride with
>>>> me anymore.
>>>>
>>>> Troy
>>>>
>>>> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
>>>> news:67ydnb--38GW8nLZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>> OK so I get there and use a good spray cleaner on it, half a can to
>>>>> clean up the mess where the cps was and a little for the plug. I was
>>>>> amazed at how clean it was under there. Everything went shiny.
>>>>> Noticed the wire was a bit close to the exhaust manifold so I arranged
>>>>> it away from everything metal that might hold heat against it. It has
>>>>> a thin tube around the 2 wires, maybe I should put more insulation
>>>>> around it? Drove the 10 miles home and parked it. Came back outside
>>>>> 30 minutes later and it wouldn't crank. I opened the hood and it was
>>>>> pretty hot in the engine compartment, then it hit me about
>>>>> disconnecting the electrical fan because I finally stopped it from
>>>>> overheating.
>>>>>
>>>>> The electrical fan was rigged to run all the time from the previous
>>>>> owner, and realized it blew straight across the exhaust manifold and
>>>>> even the cps sensor wire/area. I let it blow about 10 seconds and it
>>>>> cranked right up. I made a few test runs and it started every time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Either one or both of those helped enough to fix it for today.
>>>>> Tomorrow I will give it a good workout to see if its really fixed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Troy
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>> news:44EF0268.51264A1C@sympatico.ca...
>>>>>> The connection can be cleaned from above without taking it off. WD40
>>>>>> will work in a pinch, but a real spray contact cleaner is best.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Troy wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I should take it off, thoroughly clean everything, everywhere,
>>>>>>> and put it
>>>>>>> back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a
>>>>>>> multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and
>>>>>>> check it
>>>>>>> out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get
>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>> to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes
>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>> very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Troy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca...
>>>>>>> > Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The
>>>>>>> > plug
>>>>>>> > 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only
>>>>>>> > cleans
>>>>>>> > half the connection.....
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Mike
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Troy wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it
>>>>>>> >> was
>>>>>>> >> near
>>>>>>> >> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll
>>>>>>> >> take it
>>>>>>> >> off
>>>>>>> >> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting
>>>>>>> >> to it and
>>>>>>> >> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my
>>>>>>> >> ratchet to get
>>>>>>> >> to
>>>>>>> >> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms
>>>>>>> >> hold it
>>>>>>> >> from
>>>>>>> >> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know
>>>>>>> >> how it
>>>>>>> >> turns
>>>>>>> >> out.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Troy
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> >> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@***.net...
>>>>>>> >> > Hi Troy,
>>>>>>> >> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor
>>>>>>> >> > for the
>>>>>>> >> > taped adjustment clearance:
>>>>>>> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
>>>>>>> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>>>> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > Troy wrote:
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my
>>>>>>> >> >> brother's
>>>>>>> >> >> house,
>>>>>>> >> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just
>>>>>>> >> >> to see
>>>>>>> >> >> if
>>>>>>> >> >> it
>>>>>>> >> >> cranks up.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the
>>>>>>> >> >> ignition
>>>>>>> >> >> control
>>>>>>> >> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the
>>>>>>> >> >> engine's
>>>>>>> >> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up
>>>>>>> >> >> was warm
>>>>>>> >> >> all
>>>>>>> >> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and
>>>>>>> >> >> saw no
>>>>>>> >> >> spark
>>>>>>> >> >> while cranking.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
>>>>>>> >> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap
>>>>>>> >> >> with
>>>>>>> >> >> contact,
>>>>>>> >> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which
>>>>>>> >> >> failed the
>>>>>>> >> >> test
>>>>>>> >> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is
>>>>>>> >> >> strong
>>>>>>> >> >> and
>>>>>>> >> >> not
>>>>>>> >> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if
>>>>>>> >> >> it would
>>>>>>> >> >> give
>>>>>>> >> >> and it held strong.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off
>>>>>>> >> >> it will
>>>>>>> >> >> crank
>>>>>>> >> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting
>>>>>>> >> >> hot and
>>>>>>> >> >> not
>>>>>>> >> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure
>>>>>>> >> >> when I go
>>>>>>> >> >> over
>>>>>>> >> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home
>>>>>>> >> >> and have
>>>>>>> >> >> all
>>>>>>> >> >> my
>>>>>>> >> >> tools out with my multitester.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was
>>>>>>> >> >> considering
>>>>>>> >> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas
>>>>>>> >> >> but I
>>>>>>> >> >> love
>>>>>>> >> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am
>>>>>>> >> >> going to
>>>>>>> >> >> give
>>>>>>> >> >> it
>>>>>>> >> >> the boot.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his
>>>>>>> >> >> 3 day
>>>>>>> >> >> weekend,
>>>>>>> >> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end
>>>>>>> >> >> of my
>>>>>>> >> >> rope
>>>>>>> >> >> with this thing.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> Troy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>