90 XJ ABS power booster
05-09-2005, 09:13 PM
#31
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Re: 90 XJ ABS power booster
with what abs ?? or that bendix system that went the way of the commador 64
DaveW wrote:
> dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
> > aren't the ABS pumps under a permanent recall too?
> >
> > "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > news:427E9B92.F86319@cac.net...
> >
> >>if it has abs then the pump may be bad and it is still availble
> >>
> >
> >
>
> Okay, here's my recent experience with my 91XJ. Bendix ABS, the pump is
> supposed to run about every 3 pumps of the brake pedal. It had started
> running on every pump, and running of and on while sitting at stop
> lights. First about every 45 seconds, then 30 seconds, finally, every 12
> seconds. Apparently, the accumulator is what goes first, and if you let
> it go long enough so that the pump runs continuously, the pump soon
> follows. Naturally, the pump is covered by the lifetime warranty, the
> accumulator is not.
>
> I looked into replacing the system with non-ABS brakes, and decided that
> I really didn't have the time to go junkyarding, tearing the thing
> apart, etc, as it is my daily driver.
>
> Took it to the dealer. Sure enough, the accumulator was bad. Cost me
> $400, but everything works right again. They tested the pump and claim
> that it is holding pressure, which appears to be the case. I'm betting
> that this will keep the system up and running for as long as I own the
> vehicle. This system was used on millions of Chrysler vehicles, and is
> very much a safety related item, so I think parts will continue to be
> available, but only at Stealerships.
>
> As it turns out, the next day, I made a quick trip to return a library
> book, and it started raining. Well, there's one of those nasty camera
> equipped traffic lights on the way home. It went yellow, I checked the
> rear view (all clear), planted my foot on the brakes, and came to a very
> quick straight stop using the ABS.
>
> Oh, and yes, the brake pedal does seem to require less pressure than it
> did before the replacement.
>
> Still a nasty system, and I certainly won't buy another vehicle with it.
>
> Regards,
>
> DAve
DaveW wrote:
> dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
> > aren't the ABS pumps under a permanent recall too?
> >
> > "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > news:427E9B92.F86319@cac.net...
> >
> >>if it has abs then the pump may be bad and it is still availble
> >>
> >
> >
>
> Okay, here's my recent experience with my 91XJ. Bendix ABS, the pump is
> supposed to run about every 3 pumps of the brake pedal. It had started
> running on every pump, and running of and on while sitting at stop
> lights. First about every 45 seconds, then 30 seconds, finally, every 12
> seconds. Apparently, the accumulator is what goes first, and if you let
> it go long enough so that the pump runs continuously, the pump soon
> follows. Naturally, the pump is covered by the lifetime warranty, the
> accumulator is not.
>
> I looked into replacing the system with non-ABS brakes, and decided that
> I really didn't have the time to go junkyarding, tearing the thing
> apart, etc, as it is my daily driver.
>
> Took it to the dealer. Sure enough, the accumulator was bad. Cost me
> $400, but everything works right again. They tested the pump and claim
> that it is holding pressure, which appears to be the case. I'm betting
> that this will keep the system up and running for as long as I own the
> vehicle. This system was used on millions of Chrysler vehicles, and is
> very much a safety related item, so I think parts will continue to be
> available, but only at Stealerships.
>
> As it turns out, the next day, I made a quick trip to return a library
> book, and it started raining. Well, there's one of those nasty camera
> equipped traffic lights on the way home. It went yellow, I checked the
> rear view (all clear), planted my foot on the brakes, and came to a very
> quick straight stop using the ABS.
>
> Oh, and yes, the brake pedal does seem to require less pressure than it
> did before the replacement.
>
> Still a nasty system, and I certainly won't buy another vehicle with it.
>
> Regards,
>
> DAve
05-09-2005, 09:13 PM
#32
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Re: 90 XJ ABS power booster
with what abs ?? or that bendix system that went the way of the commador 64
DaveW wrote:
> dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
> > aren't the ABS pumps under a permanent recall too?
> >
> > "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > news:427E9B92.F86319@cac.net...
> >
> >>if it has abs then the pump may be bad and it is still availble
> >>
> >
> >
>
> Okay, here's my recent experience with my 91XJ. Bendix ABS, the pump is
> supposed to run about every 3 pumps of the brake pedal. It had started
> running on every pump, and running of and on while sitting at stop
> lights. First about every 45 seconds, then 30 seconds, finally, every 12
> seconds. Apparently, the accumulator is what goes first, and if you let
> it go long enough so that the pump runs continuously, the pump soon
> follows. Naturally, the pump is covered by the lifetime warranty, the
> accumulator is not.
>
> I looked into replacing the system with non-ABS brakes, and decided that
> I really didn't have the time to go junkyarding, tearing the thing
> apart, etc, as it is my daily driver.
>
> Took it to the dealer. Sure enough, the accumulator was bad. Cost me
> $400, but everything works right again. They tested the pump and claim
> that it is holding pressure, which appears to be the case. I'm betting
> that this will keep the system up and running for as long as I own the
> vehicle. This system was used on millions of Chrysler vehicles, and is
> very much a safety related item, so I think parts will continue to be
> available, but only at Stealerships.
>
> As it turns out, the next day, I made a quick trip to return a library
> book, and it started raining. Well, there's one of those nasty camera
> equipped traffic lights on the way home. It went yellow, I checked the
> rear view (all clear), planted my foot on the brakes, and came to a very
> quick straight stop using the ABS.
>
> Oh, and yes, the brake pedal does seem to require less pressure than it
> did before the replacement.
>
> Still a nasty system, and I certainly won't buy another vehicle with it.
>
> Regards,
>
> DAve
DaveW wrote:
> dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
> > aren't the ABS pumps under a permanent recall too?
> >
> > "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > news:427E9B92.F86319@cac.net...
> >
> >>if it has abs then the pump may be bad and it is still availble
> >>
> >
> >
>
> Okay, here's my recent experience with my 91XJ. Bendix ABS, the pump is
> supposed to run about every 3 pumps of the brake pedal. It had started
> running on every pump, and running of and on while sitting at stop
> lights. First about every 45 seconds, then 30 seconds, finally, every 12
> seconds. Apparently, the accumulator is what goes first, and if you let
> it go long enough so that the pump runs continuously, the pump soon
> follows. Naturally, the pump is covered by the lifetime warranty, the
> accumulator is not.
>
> I looked into replacing the system with non-ABS brakes, and decided that
> I really didn't have the time to go junkyarding, tearing the thing
> apart, etc, as it is my daily driver.
>
> Took it to the dealer. Sure enough, the accumulator was bad. Cost me
> $400, but everything works right again. They tested the pump and claim
> that it is holding pressure, which appears to be the case. I'm betting
> that this will keep the system up and running for as long as I own the
> vehicle. This system was used on millions of Chrysler vehicles, and is
> very much a safety related item, so I think parts will continue to be
> available, but only at Stealerships.
>
> As it turns out, the next day, I made a quick trip to return a library
> book, and it started raining. Well, there's one of those nasty camera
> equipped traffic lights on the way home. It went yellow, I checked the
> rear view (all clear), planted my foot on the brakes, and came to a very
> quick straight stop using the ABS.
>
> Oh, and yes, the brake pedal does seem to require less pressure than it
> did before the replacement.
>
> Still a nasty system, and I certainly won't buy another vehicle with it.
>
> Regards,
>
> DAve
05-09-2005, 09:13 PM
#33
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Re: 90 XJ ABS power booster
with what abs ?? or that bendix system that went the way of the commador 64
DaveW wrote:
> dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
> > aren't the ABS pumps under a permanent recall too?
> >
> > "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > news:427E9B92.F86319@cac.net...
> >
> >>if it has abs then the pump may be bad and it is still availble
> >>
> >
> >
>
> Okay, here's my recent experience with my 91XJ. Bendix ABS, the pump is
> supposed to run about every 3 pumps of the brake pedal. It had started
> running on every pump, and running of and on while sitting at stop
> lights. First about every 45 seconds, then 30 seconds, finally, every 12
> seconds. Apparently, the accumulator is what goes first, and if you let
> it go long enough so that the pump runs continuously, the pump soon
> follows. Naturally, the pump is covered by the lifetime warranty, the
> accumulator is not.
>
> I looked into replacing the system with non-ABS brakes, and decided that
> I really didn't have the time to go junkyarding, tearing the thing
> apart, etc, as it is my daily driver.
>
> Took it to the dealer. Sure enough, the accumulator was bad. Cost me
> $400, but everything works right again. They tested the pump and claim
> that it is holding pressure, which appears to be the case. I'm betting
> that this will keep the system up and running for as long as I own the
> vehicle. This system was used on millions of Chrysler vehicles, and is
> very much a safety related item, so I think parts will continue to be
> available, but only at Stealerships.
>
> As it turns out, the next day, I made a quick trip to return a library
> book, and it started raining. Well, there's one of those nasty camera
> equipped traffic lights on the way home. It went yellow, I checked the
> rear view (all clear), planted my foot on the brakes, and came to a very
> quick straight stop using the ABS.
>
> Oh, and yes, the brake pedal does seem to require less pressure than it
> did before the replacement.
>
> Still a nasty system, and I certainly won't buy another vehicle with it.
>
> Regards,
>
> DAve
DaveW wrote:
> dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
> > aren't the ABS pumps under a permanent recall too?
> >
> > "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > news:427E9B92.F86319@cac.net...
> >
> >>if it has abs then the pump may be bad and it is still availble
> >>
> >
> >
>
> Okay, here's my recent experience with my 91XJ. Bendix ABS, the pump is
> supposed to run about every 3 pumps of the brake pedal. It had started
> running on every pump, and running of and on while sitting at stop
> lights. First about every 45 seconds, then 30 seconds, finally, every 12
> seconds. Apparently, the accumulator is what goes first, and if you let
> it go long enough so that the pump runs continuously, the pump soon
> follows. Naturally, the pump is covered by the lifetime warranty, the
> accumulator is not.
>
> I looked into replacing the system with non-ABS brakes, and decided that
> I really didn't have the time to go junkyarding, tearing the thing
> apart, etc, as it is my daily driver.
>
> Took it to the dealer. Sure enough, the accumulator was bad. Cost me
> $400, but everything works right again. They tested the pump and claim
> that it is holding pressure, which appears to be the case. I'm betting
> that this will keep the system up and running for as long as I own the
> vehicle. This system was used on millions of Chrysler vehicles, and is
> very much a safety related item, so I think parts will continue to be
> available, but only at Stealerships.
>
> As it turns out, the next day, I made a quick trip to return a library
> book, and it started raining. Well, there's one of those nasty camera
> equipped traffic lights on the way home. It went yellow, I checked the
> rear view (all clear), planted my foot on the brakes, and came to a very
> quick straight stop using the ABS.
>
> Oh, and yes, the brake pedal does seem to require less pressure than it
> did before the replacement.
>
> Still a nasty system, and I certainly won't buy another vehicle with it.
>
> Regards,
>
> DAve
05-09-2005, 09:56 PM
#34
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Re: 90 XJ ABS power booster
Hundred thousand miles: http://www.allpar.com/fix/ABS.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
>
> aren't the ABS pumps under a permanent recall too?
>
> "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> news:427E9B92.F86319@cac.net...
> > if it has abs then the pump may be bad and it is still availble
> >
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
>
> aren't the ABS pumps under a permanent recall too?
>
> "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> news:427E9B92.F86319@cac.net...
> > if it has abs then the pump may be bad and it is still availble
> >
05-09-2005, 09:56 PM
#35
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Re: 90 XJ ABS power booster
Hundred thousand miles: http://www.allpar.com/fix/ABS.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
>
> aren't the ABS pumps under a permanent recall too?
>
> "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> news:427E9B92.F86319@cac.net...
> > if it has abs then the pump may be bad and it is still availble
> >
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
>
> aren't the ABS pumps under a permanent recall too?
>
> "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> news:427E9B92.F86319@cac.net...
> > if it has abs then the pump may be bad and it is still availble
> >
05-09-2005, 09:56 PM
#36
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Re: 90 XJ ABS power booster
Hundred thousand miles: http://www.allpar.com/fix/ABS.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
>
> aren't the ABS pumps under a permanent recall too?
>
> "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> news:427E9B92.F86319@cac.net...
> > if it has abs then the pump may be bad and it is still availble
> >
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
>
> aren't the ABS pumps under a permanent recall too?
>
> "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> news:427E9B92.F86319@cac.net...
> > if it has abs then the pump may be bad and it is still availble
> >
05-09-2005, 09:56 PM
#37
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Re: 90 XJ ABS power booster
Hundred thousand miles: http://www.allpar.com/fix/ABS.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
>
> aren't the ABS pumps under a permanent recall too?
>
> "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> news:427E9B92.F86319@cac.net...
> > if it has abs then the pump may be bad and it is still availble
> >
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
>
> aren't the ABS pumps under a permanent recall too?
>
> "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> news:427E9B92.F86319@cac.net...
> > if it has abs then the pump may be bad and it is still availble
> >
05-09-2005, 11:56 PM
#38
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Re: 90 XJ ABS power booster
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Just know that your car is unsafe off-road:
> http://www.4x4abc.com/4WD101/ABS_offroad.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
Bill, if you read the rest of the site, it says that (at least on a GC,
I assume the same is true for the XJ) that the ABS is disconnected in
Part Time 4 Wheel Drive, which is what I use when I'm offroad.
I have Selec-Trac, so I gather that the ABS is still functional in Full
Time 4X4. Good to know since I do use that when it starts raining here
in LA after not having done so for months at a time.
When I offroad, I tend to go back to my old days of driving Dodge Darts
with 9" drum brakes. That is, drive like you don't have brakes at all!
So, I'm probably pretty safe.
At $2.50 a gallon, I haven't been out of the city much anyway these days!
Regards,
DAve
> Just know that your car is unsafe off-road:
> http://www.4x4abc.com/4WD101/ABS_offroad.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
Bill, if you read the rest of the site, it says that (at least on a GC,
I assume the same is true for the XJ) that the ABS is disconnected in
Part Time 4 Wheel Drive, which is what I use when I'm offroad.
I have Selec-Trac, so I gather that the ABS is still functional in Full
Time 4X4. Good to know since I do use that when it starts raining here
in LA after not having done so for months at a time.
When I offroad, I tend to go back to my old days of driving Dodge Darts
with 9" drum brakes. That is, drive like you don't have brakes at all!
So, I'm probably pretty safe.
At $2.50 a gallon, I haven't been out of the city much anyway these days!
Regards,
DAve
05-09-2005, 11:56 PM
#39
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Re: 90 XJ ABS power booster
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Just know that your car is unsafe off-road:
> http://www.4x4abc.com/4WD101/ABS_offroad.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
Bill, if you read the rest of the site, it says that (at least on a GC,
I assume the same is true for the XJ) that the ABS is disconnected in
Part Time 4 Wheel Drive, which is what I use when I'm offroad.
I have Selec-Trac, so I gather that the ABS is still functional in Full
Time 4X4. Good to know since I do use that when it starts raining here
in LA after not having done so for months at a time.
When I offroad, I tend to go back to my old days of driving Dodge Darts
with 9" drum brakes. That is, drive like you don't have brakes at all!
So, I'm probably pretty safe.
At $2.50 a gallon, I haven't been out of the city much anyway these days!
Regards,
DAve
> Just know that your car is unsafe off-road:
> http://www.4x4abc.com/4WD101/ABS_offroad.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
Bill, if you read the rest of the site, it says that (at least on a GC,
I assume the same is true for the XJ) that the ABS is disconnected in
Part Time 4 Wheel Drive, which is what I use when I'm offroad.
I have Selec-Trac, so I gather that the ABS is still functional in Full
Time 4X4. Good to know since I do use that when it starts raining here
in LA after not having done so for months at a time.
When I offroad, I tend to go back to my old days of driving Dodge Darts
with 9" drum brakes. That is, drive like you don't have brakes at all!
So, I'm probably pretty safe.
At $2.50 a gallon, I haven't been out of the city much anyway these days!
Regards,
DAve
05-09-2005, 11:56 PM
#40
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Posts: n/a
Re: 90 XJ ABS power booster
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Just know that your car is unsafe off-road:
> http://www.4x4abc.com/4WD101/ABS_offroad.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
Bill, if you read the rest of the site, it says that (at least on a GC,
I assume the same is true for the XJ) that the ABS is disconnected in
Part Time 4 Wheel Drive, which is what I use when I'm offroad.
I have Selec-Trac, so I gather that the ABS is still functional in Full
Time 4X4. Good to know since I do use that when it starts raining here
in LA after not having done so for months at a time.
When I offroad, I tend to go back to my old days of driving Dodge Darts
with 9" drum brakes. That is, drive like you don't have brakes at all!
So, I'm probably pretty safe.
At $2.50 a gallon, I haven't been out of the city much anyway these days!
Regards,
DAve
> Just know that your car is unsafe off-road:
> http://www.4x4abc.com/4WD101/ABS_offroad.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
Bill, if you read the rest of the site, it says that (at least on a GC,
I assume the same is true for the XJ) that the ABS is disconnected in
Part Time 4 Wheel Drive, which is what I use when I'm offroad.
I have Selec-Trac, so I gather that the ABS is still functional in Full
Time 4X4. Good to know since I do use that when it starts raining here
in LA after not having done so for months at a time.
When I offroad, I tend to go back to my old days of driving Dodge Darts
with 9" drum brakes. That is, drive like you don't have brakes at all!
So, I'm probably pretty safe.
At $2.50 a gallon, I haven't been out of the city much anyway these days!
Regards,
DAve