89 Jeep Cherokee 4L Weird starting problem
03-10-2005, 09:29 AM
#11
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 89 Jeep Cherokee 4L Weird starting problem
I believe there was a recall on the shift interlock switch not sure why but
you might want to check that you are up to date on recalls.
"Glen Hudgin" <protrak@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:aOOXd.22868$fW4.681950@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
> My Cherokee starts fine but as soon as I touch the brake pedal it kills
> the
> engine. If I keep my foot on the brake pedal it won't start. I tried
> disconnecting the wire to the brake light switch but if I do this it won't
> start. The brake lights work fine and the hazard lights work so I don't
> think the switch is the problem. Does anybody know what this problem is?
> Glen
>
>
you might want to check that you are up to date on recalls.
"Glen Hudgin" <protrak@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:aOOXd.22868$fW4.681950@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
> My Cherokee starts fine but as soon as I touch the brake pedal it kills
> the
> engine. If I keep my foot on the brake pedal it won't start. I tried
> disconnecting the wire to the brake light switch but if I do this it won't
> start. The brake lights work fine and the hazard lights work so I don't
> think the switch is the problem. Does anybody know what this problem is?
> Glen
>
>
03-10-2005, 09:29 AM
#12
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 89 Jeep Cherokee 4L Weird starting problem
I believe there was a recall on the shift interlock switch not sure why but
you might want to check that you are up to date on recalls.
"Glen Hudgin" <protrak@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:aOOXd.22868$fW4.681950@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
> My Cherokee starts fine but as soon as I touch the brake pedal it kills
> the
> engine. If I keep my foot on the brake pedal it won't start. I tried
> disconnecting the wire to the brake light switch but if I do this it won't
> start. The brake lights work fine and the hazard lights work so I don't
> think the switch is the problem. Does anybody know what this problem is?
> Glen
>
>
you might want to check that you are up to date on recalls.
"Glen Hudgin" <protrak@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:aOOXd.22868$fW4.681950@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
> My Cherokee starts fine but as soon as I touch the brake pedal it kills
> the
> engine. If I keep my foot on the brake pedal it won't start. I tried
> disconnecting the wire to the brake light switch but if I do this it won't
> start. The brake lights work fine and the hazard lights work so I don't
> think the switch is the problem. Does anybody know what this problem is?
> Glen
>
>
03-10-2005, 09:29 AM
#13
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 89 Jeep Cherokee 4L Weird starting problem
I believe there was a recall on the shift interlock switch not sure why but
you might want to check that you are up to date on recalls.
"Glen Hudgin" <protrak@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:aOOXd.22868$fW4.681950@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
> My Cherokee starts fine but as soon as I touch the brake pedal it kills
> the
> engine. If I keep my foot on the brake pedal it won't start. I tried
> disconnecting the wire to the brake light switch but if I do this it won't
> start. The brake lights work fine and the hazard lights work so I don't
> think the switch is the problem. Does anybody know what this problem is?
> Glen
>
>
you might want to check that you are up to date on recalls.
"Glen Hudgin" <protrak@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:aOOXd.22868$fW4.681950@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
> My Cherokee starts fine but as soon as I touch the brake pedal it kills
> the
> engine. If I keep my foot on the brake pedal it won't start. I tried
> disconnecting the wire to the brake light switch but if I do this it won't
> start. The brake lights work fine and the hazard lights work so I don't
> think the switch is the problem. Does anybody know what this problem is?
> Glen
>
>
03-10-2005, 09:33 PM
#14
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 89 Jeep Cherokee 4L Weird starting problem
Also see if the bake pedal hits some wiring for the ECM.
When you hit the Brakes, does the tach drop dead instantly like the power
was cut off? If so then I agree with ("ßill")
--
later,
dave AKA vwdoc1
88 XJ 4.0 auto
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:422FD737.BE216B6C@***.net...
> I could see a short in the brake light circuit sucking so much
> power that your computer wouldn't work, but disconnecting the line to
> that switch, and the engine won't run makes no sense, the line is
> terminated there. I once had a similar problem where is would hit the
> brakes and engine would die, but actually my knee was hitting the column
> where the ignition switch was coming apart. The only thing I could
> suggest is double check every connection, looking for hot spots where a
> couple of wire could have melted together.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
When you hit the Brakes, does the tach drop dead instantly like the power
was cut off? If so then I agree with ("ßill")
--
later,
dave AKA vwdoc1
88 XJ 4.0 auto
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:422FD737.BE216B6C@***.net...
> I could see a short in the brake light circuit sucking so much
> power that your computer wouldn't work, but disconnecting the line to
> that switch, and the engine won't run makes no sense, the line is
> terminated there. I once had a similar problem where is would hit the
> brakes and engine would die, but actually my knee was hitting the column
> where the ignition switch was coming apart. The only thing I could
> suggest is double check every connection, looking for hot spots where a
> couple of wire could have melted together.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
03-10-2005, 09:33 PM
#15
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 89 Jeep Cherokee 4L Weird starting problem
Also see if the bake pedal hits some wiring for the ECM.
When you hit the Brakes, does the tach drop dead instantly like the power
was cut off? If so then I agree with ("ßill")
--
later,
dave AKA vwdoc1
88 XJ 4.0 auto
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:422FD737.BE216B6C@***.net...
> I could see a short in the brake light circuit sucking so much
> power that your computer wouldn't work, but disconnecting the line to
> that switch, and the engine won't run makes no sense, the line is
> terminated there. I once had a similar problem where is would hit the
> brakes and engine would die, but actually my knee was hitting the column
> where the ignition switch was coming apart. The only thing I could
> suggest is double check every connection, looking for hot spots where a
> couple of wire could have melted together.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
When you hit the Brakes, does the tach drop dead instantly like the power
was cut off? If so then I agree with ("ßill")
--
later,
dave AKA vwdoc1
88 XJ 4.0 auto
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:422FD737.BE216B6C@***.net...
> I could see a short in the brake light circuit sucking so much
> power that your computer wouldn't work, but disconnecting the line to
> that switch, and the engine won't run makes no sense, the line is
> terminated there. I once had a similar problem where is would hit the
> brakes and engine would die, but actually my knee was hitting the column
> where the ignition switch was coming apart. The only thing I could
> suggest is double check every connection, looking for hot spots where a
> couple of wire could have melted together.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
03-10-2005, 09:33 PM
#16
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 89 Jeep Cherokee 4L Weird starting problem
Also see if the bake pedal hits some wiring for the ECM.
When you hit the Brakes, does the tach drop dead instantly like the power
was cut off? If so then I agree with ("ßill")
--
later,
dave AKA vwdoc1
88 XJ 4.0 auto
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:422FD737.BE216B6C@***.net...
> I could see a short in the brake light circuit sucking so much
> power that your computer wouldn't work, but disconnecting the line to
> that switch, and the engine won't run makes no sense, the line is
> terminated there. I once had a similar problem where is would hit the
> brakes and engine would die, but actually my knee was hitting the column
> where the ignition switch was coming apart. The only thing I could
> suggest is double check every connection, looking for hot spots where a
> couple of wire could have melted together.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
When you hit the Brakes, does the tach drop dead instantly like the power
was cut off? If so then I agree with ("ßill")
--
later,
dave AKA vwdoc1
88 XJ 4.0 auto
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:422FD737.BE216B6C@***.net...
> I could see a short in the brake light circuit sucking so much
> power that your computer wouldn't work, but disconnecting the line to
> that switch, and the engine won't run makes no sense, the line is
> terminated there. I once had a similar problem where is would hit the
> brakes and engine would die, but actually my knee was hitting the column
> where the ignition switch was coming apart. The only thing I could
> suggest is double check every connection, looking for hot spots where a
> couple of wire could have melted together.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
03-11-2005, 09:38 AM
#17
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 89 Jeep Cherokee 4L Weird starting problem
Ok seeing as you have new ground straps, (everyone should know this), I
would take a booster cable and run it from the battery negative to the
firewall and see what happens.
If no change, I would then turn on the emergency flashers and see if a)
it starts with them on or b) it dies when they come on or c) they have
no effect.
There is one other place to check for a broken ground as well. Look on
the passenger side of the engine near the back for a bolt with 2 or 3
small black wires coming off it. This is the ground for the computer
harness.
Have you had any wiring issues or melts or bad electrical smells?
Anything like the 4x4 light stuck on or anything else unusual?
Mike
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> That should be a dead mesh ground strap from the rear of the engine head
> to the firewall.
>
> There is a 99% chance your vehicle is stealing the ground through the
> brake pedal and light circuit.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Glen Hudgin wrote:
> >
> > My Cherokee starts fine but as soon as I touch the brake pedal it kills the
> > engine. If I keep my foot on the brake pedal it won't start. I tried
> > disconnecting the wire to the brake light switch but if I do this it won't
> > start. The brake lights work fine and the hazard lights work so I don't
> > think the switch is the problem. Does anybody know what this problem is?
> > Glen
would take a booster cable and run it from the battery negative to the
firewall and see what happens.
If no change, I would then turn on the emergency flashers and see if a)
it starts with them on or b) it dies when they come on or c) they have
no effect.
There is one other place to check for a broken ground as well. Look on
the passenger side of the engine near the back for a bolt with 2 or 3
small black wires coming off it. This is the ground for the computer
harness.
Have you had any wiring issues or melts or bad electrical smells?
Anything like the 4x4 light stuck on or anything else unusual?
Mike
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> That should be a dead mesh ground strap from the rear of the engine head
> to the firewall.
>
> There is a 99% chance your vehicle is stealing the ground through the
> brake pedal and light circuit.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Glen Hudgin wrote:
> >
> > My Cherokee starts fine but as soon as I touch the brake pedal it kills the
> > engine. If I keep my foot on the brake pedal it won't start. I tried
> > disconnecting the wire to the brake light switch but if I do this it won't
> > start. The brake lights work fine and the hazard lights work so I don't
> > think the switch is the problem. Does anybody know what this problem is?
> > Glen
03-11-2005, 09:38 AM
#18
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 89 Jeep Cherokee 4L Weird starting problem
Ok seeing as you have new ground straps, (everyone should know this), I
would take a booster cable and run it from the battery negative to the
firewall and see what happens.
If no change, I would then turn on the emergency flashers and see if a)
it starts with them on or b) it dies when they come on or c) they have
no effect.
There is one other place to check for a broken ground as well. Look on
the passenger side of the engine near the back for a bolt with 2 or 3
small black wires coming off it. This is the ground for the computer
harness.
Have you had any wiring issues or melts or bad electrical smells?
Anything like the 4x4 light stuck on or anything else unusual?
Mike
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> That should be a dead mesh ground strap from the rear of the engine head
> to the firewall.
>
> There is a 99% chance your vehicle is stealing the ground through the
> brake pedal and light circuit.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Glen Hudgin wrote:
> >
> > My Cherokee starts fine but as soon as I touch the brake pedal it kills the
> > engine. If I keep my foot on the brake pedal it won't start. I tried
> > disconnecting the wire to the brake light switch but if I do this it won't
> > start. The brake lights work fine and the hazard lights work so I don't
> > think the switch is the problem. Does anybody know what this problem is?
> > Glen
would take a booster cable and run it from the battery negative to the
firewall and see what happens.
If no change, I would then turn on the emergency flashers and see if a)
it starts with them on or b) it dies when they come on or c) they have
no effect.
There is one other place to check for a broken ground as well. Look on
the passenger side of the engine near the back for a bolt with 2 or 3
small black wires coming off it. This is the ground for the computer
harness.
Have you had any wiring issues or melts or bad electrical smells?
Anything like the 4x4 light stuck on or anything else unusual?
Mike
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> That should be a dead mesh ground strap from the rear of the engine head
> to the firewall.
>
> There is a 99% chance your vehicle is stealing the ground through the
> brake pedal and light circuit.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Glen Hudgin wrote:
> >
> > My Cherokee starts fine but as soon as I touch the brake pedal it kills the
> > engine. If I keep my foot on the brake pedal it won't start. I tried
> > disconnecting the wire to the brake light switch but if I do this it won't
> > start. The brake lights work fine and the hazard lights work so I don't
> > think the switch is the problem. Does anybody know what this problem is?
> > Glen
03-11-2005, 09:38 AM
#19
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 89 Jeep Cherokee 4L Weird starting problem
Ok seeing as you have new ground straps, (everyone should know this), I
would take a booster cable and run it from the battery negative to the
firewall and see what happens.
If no change, I would then turn on the emergency flashers and see if a)
it starts with them on or b) it dies when they come on or c) they have
no effect.
There is one other place to check for a broken ground as well. Look on
the passenger side of the engine near the back for a bolt with 2 or 3
small black wires coming off it. This is the ground for the computer
harness.
Have you had any wiring issues or melts or bad electrical smells?
Anything like the 4x4 light stuck on or anything else unusual?
Mike
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> That should be a dead mesh ground strap from the rear of the engine head
> to the firewall.
>
> There is a 99% chance your vehicle is stealing the ground through the
> brake pedal and light circuit.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Glen Hudgin wrote:
> >
> > My Cherokee starts fine but as soon as I touch the brake pedal it kills the
> > engine. If I keep my foot on the brake pedal it won't start. I tried
> > disconnecting the wire to the brake light switch but if I do this it won't
> > start. The brake lights work fine and the hazard lights work so I don't
> > think the switch is the problem. Does anybody know what this problem is?
> > Glen
would take a booster cable and run it from the battery negative to the
firewall and see what happens.
If no change, I would then turn on the emergency flashers and see if a)
it starts with them on or b) it dies when they come on or c) they have
no effect.
There is one other place to check for a broken ground as well. Look on
the passenger side of the engine near the back for a bolt with 2 or 3
small black wires coming off it. This is the ground for the computer
harness.
Have you had any wiring issues or melts or bad electrical smells?
Anything like the 4x4 light stuck on or anything else unusual?
Mike
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> That should be a dead mesh ground strap from the rear of the engine head
> to the firewall.
>
> There is a 99% chance your vehicle is stealing the ground through the
> brake pedal and light circuit.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Glen Hudgin wrote:
> >
> > My Cherokee starts fine but as soon as I touch the brake pedal it kills the
> > engine. If I keep my foot on the brake pedal it won't start. I tried
> > disconnecting the wire to the brake light switch but if I do this it won't
> > start. The brake lights work fine and the hazard lights work so I don't
> > think the switch is the problem. Does anybody know what this problem is?
> > Glen
03-12-2005, 05:22 PM
#20
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 89 Jeep Cherokee 4L Weird starting problem
Problem solved. It was a bad ground wire, apparently for the computer or
control unit.
Thanks for all the input.
"mike92105" <mike92105@***.net> wrote in message
news:XRYXd.58092$%U2.49331@lakeread01...
>I believe there was a recall on the shift interlock switch not sure why but
>you might want to check that you are up to date on recalls.
>
> "Glen Hudgin" <protrak@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:aOOXd.22868$fW4.681950@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
>> My Cherokee starts fine but as soon as I touch the brake pedal it kills
>> the
>> engine. If I keep my foot on the brake pedal it won't start. I tried
>> disconnecting the wire to the brake light switch but if I do this it
>> won't
>> start. The brake lights work fine and the hazard lights work so I don't
>> think the switch is the problem. Does anybody know what this problem is?
>> Glen
>>
>>
>
>
control unit.
Thanks for all the input.
"mike92105" <mike92105@***.net> wrote in message
news:XRYXd.58092$%U2.49331@lakeread01...
>I believe there was a recall on the shift interlock switch not sure why but
>you might want to check that you are up to date on recalls.
>
> "Glen Hudgin" <protrak@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:aOOXd.22868$fW4.681950@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
>> My Cherokee starts fine but as soon as I touch the brake pedal it kills
>> the
>> engine. If I keep my foot on the brake pedal it won't start. I tried
>> disconnecting the wire to the brake light switch but if I do this it
>> won't
>> start. The brake lights work fine and the hazard lights work so I don't
>> think the switch is the problem. Does anybody know what this problem is?
>> Glen
>>
>>
>
>