87 YJ Steering problem
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Re: 87 YJ Steering problem
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Charlie Dellacona wrote:
>
> One for Mike.
>
> Right front U-Joint was badly seized. They
> were original, 110K miles. Replaced both
> of course.
>
> Thanks for hints.
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Charlie Dellacona wrote:
>
> One for Mike.
>
> Right front U-Joint was badly seized. They
> were original, 110K miles. Replaced both
> of course.
>
> Thanks for hints.
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Re: 87 YJ Steering problem
You are welcome.
Mike
Charlie Dellacona wrote:
>
> One for Mike.
>
> Right front U-Joint was badly seized. They
> were original, 110K miles. Replaced both
> of course.
>
> Thanks for hints.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:409B9951.CB38ECAE@sympatico.ca...
> > Jeepster wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 07 May 2004 03:13:46 GMT, "Charlie Dellacona"
> > > <cdellacona@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >I have an 87 YJ with power steering. It has stock
> > > >size rims and tires (225/75-15 tires).
> > > >
> > > >[258 I6+TF727 3Speed+NP207+3.07 gears].
> > > >
> > > >Lately the steering has become super hard to turn.
> > > >Its worse than any non-power steering vehicle I have
> > > >driven. The steering effort really doesn't get better
> > > >with speed, or course you don't have as much to do...
> > > >
> > > >The peculiar thing is that the steering effort isn't really
> > > >constant or even constantly increasing as you get
> > > >toward the lock. Turning from lock to lock there are
> > > >easy bits and very hard bits. I don't know if its the
> > > >right way to explain it, but it is almost like turning
> > > >against a cam. This is true standing still or going slow
> > > >in a parking lot. Engine speed doesn't seem to matter.
> > > >
> > > >I have checked the power steering fluid and belt. The
> > > >pump turns. It squeals a little at the locks. One
> > > >suspicious thing is a slight mechanical moaning sound
> > > >that can be heard at low speed (crawling up to a stop
> > > >light), kind of u-joint like, but I am not sure.
> > > >
> > > >How do you go about diagnosing this one?
> > > >
> > > >Thanks
> > > >
> > >
> > > A few things I can think of are:
> > > - steering box is failing
> > > - bent or failing steering stabilizer
> > > - steering shaft u-joints are failing
> > > - a ball joint is tight or seized
> > > - steering shaft bearing ???
> > >
> > > Maybe disconnect/remove the stablizer and do a slow drive around the
> > > block and rule that out first.
> >
> > I agree.
> >
> > One more thing is a cooked front axle u-joint. They can bind the
> > steering up like that when they seize.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Mike
Charlie Dellacona wrote:
>
> One for Mike.
>
> Right front U-Joint was badly seized. They
> were original, 110K miles. Replaced both
> of course.
>
> Thanks for hints.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:409B9951.CB38ECAE@sympatico.ca...
> > Jeepster wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 07 May 2004 03:13:46 GMT, "Charlie Dellacona"
> > > <cdellacona@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >I have an 87 YJ with power steering. It has stock
> > > >size rims and tires (225/75-15 tires).
> > > >
> > > >[258 I6+TF727 3Speed+NP207+3.07 gears].
> > > >
> > > >Lately the steering has become super hard to turn.
> > > >Its worse than any non-power steering vehicle I have
> > > >driven. The steering effort really doesn't get better
> > > >with speed, or course you don't have as much to do...
> > > >
> > > >The peculiar thing is that the steering effort isn't really
> > > >constant or even constantly increasing as you get
> > > >toward the lock. Turning from lock to lock there are
> > > >easy bits and very hard bits. I don't know if its the
> > > >right way to explain it, but it is almost like turning
> > > >against a cam. This is true standing still or going slow
> > > >in a parking lot. Engine speed doesn't seem to matter.
> > > >
> > > >I have checked the power steering fluid and belt. The
> > > >pump turns. It squeals a little at the locks. One
> > > >suspicious thing is a slight mechanical moaning sound
> > > >that can be heard at low speed (crawling up to a stop
> > > >light), kind of u-joint like, but I am not sure.
> > > >
> > > >How do you go about diagnosing this one?
> > > >
> > > >Thanks
> > > >
> > >
> > > A few things I can think of are:
> > > - steering box is failing
> > > - bent or failing steering stabilizer
> > > - steering shaft u-joints are failing
> > > - a ball joint is tight or seized
> > > - steering shaft bearing ???
> > >
> > > Maybe disconnect/remove the stablizer and do a slow drive around the
> > > block and rule that out first.
> >
> > I agree.
> >
> > One more thing is a cooked front axle u-joint. They can bind the
> > steering up like that when they seize.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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Re: 87 YJ Steering problem
You are welcome.
Mike
Charlie Dellacona wrote:
>
> One for Mike.
>
> Right front U-Joint was badly seized. They
> were original, 110K miles. Replaced both
> of course.
>
> Thanks for hints.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:409B9951.CB38ECAE@sympatico.ca...
> > Jeepster wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 07 May 2004 03:13:46 GMT, "Charlie Dellacona"
> > > <cdellacona@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >I have an 87 YJ with power steering. It has stock
> > > >size rims and tires (225/75-15 tires).
> > > >
> > > >[258 I6+TF727 3Speed+NP207+3.07 gears].
> > > >
> > > >Lately the steering has become super hard to turn.
> > > >Its worse than any non-power steering vehicle I have
> > > >driven. The steering effort really doesn't get better
> > > >with speed, or course you don't have as much to do...
> > > >
> > > >The peculiar thing is that the steering effort isn't really
> > > >constant or even constantly increasing as you get
> > > >toward the lock. Turning from lock to lock there are
> > > >easy bits and very hard bits. I don't know if its the
> > > >right way to explain it, but it is almost like turning
> > > >against a cam. This is true standing still or going slow
> > > >in a parking lot. Engine speed doesn't seem to matter.
> > > >
> > > >I have checked the power steering fluid and belt. The
> > > >pump turns. It squeals a little at the locks. One
> > > >suspicious thing is a slight mechanical moaning sound
> > > >that can be heard at low speed (crawling up to a stop
> > > >light), kind of u-joint like, but I am not sure.
> > > >
> > > >How do you go about diagnosing this one?
> > > >
> > > >Thanks
> > > >
> > >
> > > A few things I can think of are:
> > > - steering box is failing
> > > - bent or failing steering stabilizer
> > > - steering shaft u-joints are failing
> > > - a ball joint is tight or seized
> > > - steering shaft bearing ???
> > >
> > > Maybe disconnect/remove the stablizer and do a slow drive around the
> > > block and rule that out first.
> >
> > I agree.
> >
> > One more thing is a cooked front axle u-joint. They can bind the
> > steering up like that when they seize.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Mike
Charlie Dellacona wrote:
>
> One for Mike.
>
> Right front U-Joint was badly seized. They
> were original, 110K miles. Replaced both
> of course.
>
> Thanks for hints.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:409B9951.CB38ECAE@sympatico.ca...
> > Jeepster wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 07 May 2004 03:13:46 GMT, "Charlie Dellacona"
> > > <cdellacona@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >I have an 87 YJ with power steering. It has stock
> > > >size rims and tires (225/75-15 tires).
> > > >
> > > >[258 I6+TF727 3Speed+NP207+3.07 gears].
> > > >
> > > >Lately the steering has become super hard to turn.
> > > >Its worse than any non-power steering vehicle I have
> > > >driven. The steering effort really doesn't get better
> > > >with speed, or course you don't have as much to do...
> > > >
> > > >The peculiar thing is that the steering effort isn't really
> > > >constant or even constantly increasing as you get
> > > >toward the lock. Turning from lock to lock there are
> > > >easy bits and very hard bits. I don't know if its the
> > > >right way to explain it, but it is almost like turning
> > > >against a cam. This is true standing still or going slow
> > > >in a parking lot. Engine speed doesn't seem to matter.
> > > >
> > > >I have checked the power steering fluid and belt. The
> > > >pump turns. It squeals a little at the locks. One
> > > >suspicious thing is a slight mechanical moaning sound
> > > >that can be heard at low speed (crawling up to a stop
> > > >light), kind of u-joint like, but I am not sure.
> > > >
> > > >How do you go about diagnosing this one?
> > > >
> > > >Thanks
> > > >
> > >
> > > A few things I can think of are:
> > > - steering box is failing
> > > - bent or failing steering stabilizer
> > > - steering shaft u-joints are failing
> > > - a ball joint is tight or seized
> > > - steering shaft bearing ???
> > >
> > > Maybe disconnect/remove the stablizer and do a slow drive around the
> > > block and rule that out first.
> >
> > I agree.
> >
> > One more thing is a cooked front axle u-joint. They can bind the
> > steering up like that when they seize.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
#24
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Re: 87 YJ Steering problem
You are welcome.
Mike
Charlie Dellacona wrote:
>
> One for Mike.
>
> Right front U-Joint was badly seized. They
> were original, 110K miles. Replaced both
> of course.
>
> Thanks for hints.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:409B9951.CB38ECAE@sympatico.ca...
> > Jeepster wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 07 May 2004 03:13:46 GMT, "Charlie Dellacona"
> > > <cdellacona@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >I have an 87 YJ with power steering. It has stock
> > > >size rims and tires (225/75-15 tires).
> > > >
> > > >[258 I6+TF727 3Speed+NP207+3.07 gears].
> > > >
> > > >Lately the steering has become super hard to turn.
> > > >Its worse than any non-power steering vehicle I have
> > > >driven. The steering effort really doesn't get better
> > > >with speed, or course you don't have as much to do...
> > > >
> > > >The peculiar thing is that the steering effort isn't really
> > > >constant or even constantly increasing as you get
> > > >toward the lock. Turning from lock to lock there are
> > > >easy bits and very hard bits. I don't know if its the
> > > >right way to explain it, but it is almost like turning
> > > >against a cam. This is true standing still or going slow
> > > >in a parking lot. Engine speed doesn't seem to matter.
> > > >
> > > >I have checked the power steering fluid and belt. The
> > > >pump turns. It squeals a little at the locks. One
> > > >suspicious thing is a slight mechanical moaning sound
> > > >that can be heard at low speed (crawling up to a stop
> > > >light), kind of u-joint like, but I am not sure.
> > > >
> > > >How do you go about diagnosing this one?
> > > >
> > > >Thanks
> > > >
> > >
> > > A few things I can think of are:
> > > - steering box is failing
> > > - bent or failing steering stabilizer
> > > - steering shaft u-joints are failing
> > > - a ball joint is tight or seized
> > > - steering shaft bearing ???
> > >
> > > Maybe disconnect/remove the stablizer and do a slow drive around the
> > > block and rule that out first.
> >
> > I agree.
> >
> > One more thing is a cooked front axle u-joint. They can bind the
> > steering up like that when they seize.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Mike
Charlie Dellacona wrote:
>
> One for Mike.
>
> Right front U-Joint was badly seized. They
> were original, 110K miles. Replaced both
> of course.
>
> Thanks for hints.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:409B9951.CB38ECAE@sympatico.ca...
> > Jeepster wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 07 May 2004 03:13:46 GMT, "Charlie Dellacona"
> > > <cdellacona@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >I have an 87 YJ with power steering. It has stock
> > > >size rims and tires (225/75-15 tires).
> > > >
> > > >[258 I6+TF727 3Speed+NP207+3.07 gears].
> > > >
> > > >Lately the steering has become super hard to turn.
> > > >Its worse than any non-power steering vehicle I have
> > > >driven. The steering effort really doesn't get better
> > > >with speed, or course you don't have as much to do...
> > > >
> > > >The peculiar thing is that the steering effort isn't really
> > > >constant or even constantly increasing as you get
> > > >toward the lock. Turning from lock to lock there are
> > > >easy bits and very hard bits. I don't know if its the
> > > >right way to explain it, but it is almost like turning
> > > >against a cam. This is true standing still or going slow
> > > >in a parking lot. Engine speed doesn't seem to matter.
> > > >
> > > >I have checked the power steering fluid and belt. The
> > > >pump turns. It squeals a little at the locks. One
> > > >suspicious thing is a slight mechanical moaning sound
> > > >that can be heard at low speed (crawling up to a stop
> > > >light), kind of u-joint like, but I am not sure.
> > > >
> > > >How do you go about diagnosing this one?
> > > >
> > > >Thanks
> > > >
> > >
> > > A few things I can think of are:
> > > - steering box is failing
> > > - bent or failing steering stabilizer
> > > - steering shaft u-joints are failing
> > > - a ball joint is tight or seized
> > > - steering shaft bearing ???
> > >
> > > Maybe disconnect/remove the stablizer and do a slow drive around the
> > > block and rule that out first.
> >
> > I agree.
> >
> > One more thing is a cooked front axle u-joint. They can bind the
> > steering up like that when they seize.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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Re: 87 YJ Steering problem
You are welcome.
Mike
Charlie Dellacona wrote:
>
> One for Mike.
>
> Right front U-Joint was badly seized. They
> were original, 110K miles. Replaced both
> of course.
>
> Thanks for hints.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:409B9951.CB38ECAE@sympatico.ca...
> > Jeepster wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 07 May 2004 03:13:46 GMT, "Charlie Dellacona"
> > > <cdellacona@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >I have an 87 YJ with power steering. It has stock
> > > >size rims and tires (225/75-15 tires).
> > > >
> > > >[258 I6+TF727 3Speed+NP207+3.07 gears].
> > > >
> > > >Lately the steering has become super hard to turn.
> > > >Its worse than any non-power steering vehicle I have
> > > >driven. The steering effort really doesn't get better
> > > >with speed, or course you don't have as much to do...
> > > >
> > > >The peculiar thing is that the steering effort isn't really
> > > >constant or even constantly increasing as you get
> > > >toward the lock. Turning from lock to lock there are
> > > >easy bits and very hard bits. I don't know if its the
> > > >right way to explain it, but it is almost like turning
> > > >against a cam. This is true standing still or going slow
> > > >in a parking lot. Engine speed doesn't seem to matter.
> > > >
> > > >I have checked the power steering fluid and belt. The
> > > >pump turns. It squeals a little at the locks. One
> > > >suspicious thing is a slight mechanical moaning sound
> > > >that can be heard at low speed (crawling up to a stop
> > > >light), kind of u-joint like, but I am not sure.
> > > >
> > > >How do you go about diagnosing this one?
> > > >
> > > >Thanks
> > > >
> > >
> > > A few things I can think of are:
> > > - steering box is failing
> > > - bent or failing steering stabilizer
> > > - steering shaft u-joints are failing
> > > - a ball joint is tight or seized
> > > - steering shaft bearing ???
> > >
> > > Maybe disconnect/remove the stablizer and do a slow drive around the
> > > block and rule that out first.
> >
> > I agree.
> >
> > One more thing is a cooked front axle u-joint. They can bind the
> > steering up like that when they seize.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Mike
Charlie Dellacona wrote:
>
> One for Mike.
>
> Right front U-Joint was badly seized. They
> were original, 110K miles. Replaced both
> of course.
>
> Thanks for hints.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:409B9951.CB38ECAE@sympatico.ca...
> > Jeepster wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 07 May 2004 03:13:46 GMT, "Charlie Dellacona"
> > > <cdellacona@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >I have an 87 YJ with power steering. It has stock
> > > >size rims and tires (225/75-15 tires).
> > > >
> > > >[258 I6+TF727 3Speed+NP207+3.07 gears].
> > > >
> > > >Lately the steering has become super hard to turn.
> > > >Its worse than any non-power steering vehicle I have
> > > >driven. The steering effort really doesn't get better
> > > >with speed, or course you don't have as much to do...
> > > >
> > > >The peculiar thing is that the steering effort isn't really
> > > >constant or even constantly increasing as you get
> > > >toward the lock. Turning from lock to lock there are
> > > >easy bits and very hard bits. I don't know if its the
> > > >right way to explain it, but it is almost like turning
> > > >against a cam. This is true standing still or going slow
> > > >in a parking lot. Engine speed doesn't seem to matter.
> > > >
> > > >I have checked the power steering fluid and belt. The
> > > >pump turns. It squeals a little at the locks. One
> > > >suspicious thing is a slight mechanical moaning sound
> > > >that can be heard at low speed (crawling up to a stop
> > > >light), kind of u-joint like, but I am not sure.
> > > >
> > > >How do you go about diagnosing this one?
> > > >
> > > >Thanks
> > > >
> > >
> > > A few things I can think of are:
> > > - steering box is failing
> > > - bent or failing steering stabilizer
> > > - steering shaft u-joints are failing
> > > - a ball joint is tight or seized
> > > - steering shaft bearing ???
> > >
> > > Maybe disconnect/remove the stablizer and do a slow drive around the
> > > block and rule that out first.
> >
> > I agree.
> >
> > One more thing is a cooked front axle u-joint. They can bind the
> > steering up like that when they seize.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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