Re: 87 XJ Cherokee upgrade or...
 

Not only that, but a well maintained automatic will last longer and be a lot
easier in the hills and rocks.
john
"Kamen Penev" <usenet2@penev.net> wrote in message
news:1010bku1r2pn871@corp.supernews.com...
> Towing capacity is only 2000lb with the 5 sp manual. With the automatic
> and heavy-duty cooling, the XJ is rated to tow 5000 lb. Power is
> plentiful with the 4.0. I have towed a popup trailer over the Grapevine
> in So. Cal. (about 5000 ft elevation). No problem. The Jeep easily
> maintained 65 mph uphill.
>
> Mine is 5sp. I see no advantage whatsoever. Why do you insist on the
stick?
>
> Kamen
> 93 XJ 4.0
>
> Charles Stoyer wrote:
> > Right now I have Jeep Cherokees (2 x 1987) and am looking to upgrade. I
can
> > get a 1994 Cherokee for around $4k if I can find one. I am in Denver
area.
> >
> > Complaints about Cherokee are low power (I drive between 6,000 and
11,000
> > feet above sea level), not so great mileage (20 mpg on a good day) and
poor
> > towing capacity (snowmobile trailer w/2 sleds). Cherokees have about
> > 180-190k miles on them.
> >
> > Chains don't fit well on rear wheels - low fender clearance, low spring
> > clearance (leaf springs).
> >
> > Engine compartment is tight, cargo capacity is OK. Off-road capability
is
> > good.
> >
> > I am looking for 5-speed manual, maybe a more modern engine (24 valves?)
> > than the straight six in the Cherokee. Cherokee supposedly has 177 HP,
newer
> > (HO) engines have 190, I think. At 6,000 feet and above, my 86 SAAB 900
> > Turbo with 160 HP and weighing 2,900 lbs (Jeep weighs around 3,100) will
> > suck the doors off either of the Jeeps at 231k miles.
> >
> > It seems the Toyota 4runner is lower power and heavier vehicle, also a
lot
> > more expensive. Got a loan of an Izuzu Rodeo and it seemed like a nice
> > vehicle but they are notorious for burning up engines. Don't even talk
about
> > the Ford Exploder. Nissan Pathfinder is not impressive. JGC (ZJ) does
not
> > come with 5-speed manual, so that is out (although some early ones did
but
> > they are hard to find).
> >
> > Would most power in a light (3,000 lb) SUV be maybe a 94 or so Cherokee
with
> > a free flow cat-back exhaust? I seem to keep coming back to Jeep for
light
> > vehicle with power and low cost.
> >
> > I know you guys are gonna favor Jeep but maybe you can say what to
really
> > stay away from, besides what I already mentioned. Or what comparisons
have
> > you made before buying Jeep?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Charles.
> >
> >
> >

Re: 87 XJ Cherokee upgrade or...
 

Not only that, but a well maintained automatic will last longer and be a lot
easier in the hills and rocks.
john
"Kamen Penev" <usenet2@penev.net> wrote in message
news:1010bku1r2pn871@corp.supernews.com...
> Towing capacity is only 2000lb with the 5 sp manual. With the automatic
> and heavy-duty cooling, the XJ is rated to tow 5000 lb. Power is
> plentiful with the 4.0. I have towed a popup trailer over the Grapevine
> in So. Cal. (about 5000 ft elevation). No problem. The Jeep easily
> maintained 65 mph uphill.
>
> Mine is 5sp. I see no advantage whatsoever. Why do you insist on the
stick?
>
> Kamen
> 93 XJ 4.0
>
> Charles Stoyer wrote:
> > Right now I have Jeep Cherokees (2 x 1987) and am looking to upgrade. I
can
> > get a 1994 Cherokee for around $4k if I can find one. I am in Denver
area.
> >
> > Complaints about Cherokee are low power (I drive between 6,000 and
11,000
> > feet above sea level), not so great mileage (20 mpg on a good day) and
poor
> > towing capacity (snowmobile trailer w/2 sleds). Cherokees have about
> > 180-190k miles on them.
> >
> > Chains don't fit well on rear wheels - low fender clearance, low spring
> > clearance (leaf springs).
> >
> > Engine compartment is tight, cargo capacity is OK. Off-road capability
is
> > good.
> >
> > I am looking for 5-speed manual, maybe a more modern engine (24 valves?)
> > than the straight six in the Cherokee. Cherokee supposedly has 177 HP,
newer
> > (HO) engines have 190, I think. At 6,000 feet and above, my 86 SAAB 900
> > Turbo with 160 HP and weighing 2,900 lbs (Jeep weighs around 3,100) will
> > suck the doors off either of the Jeeps at 231k miles.
> >
> > It seems the Toyota 4runner is lower power and heavier vehicle, also a
lot
> > more expensive. Got a loan of an Izuzu Rodeo and it seemed like a nice
> > vehicle but they are notorious for burning up engines. Don't even talk
about
> > the Ford Exploder. Nissan Pathfinder is not impressive. JGC (ZJ) does
not
> > come with 5-speed manual, so that is out (although some early ones did
but
> > they are hard to find).
> >
> > Would most power in a light (3,000 lb) SUV be maybe a 94 or so Cherokee
with
> > a free flow cat-back exhaust? I seem to keep coming back to Jeep for
light
> > vehicle with power and low cost.
> >
> > I know you guys are gonna favor Jeep but maybe you can say what to
really
> > stay away from, besides what I already mentioned. Or what comparisons
have
> > you made before buying Jeep?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Charles.
> >
> >
> >

Re: 87 XJ Cherokee upgrade or...
 

Not only that, but a well maintained automatic will last longer and be a lot
easier in the hills and rocks.
john
"Kamen Penev" <usenet2@penev.net> wrote in message
news:1010bku1r2pn871@corp.supernews.com...
> Towing capacity is only 2000lb with the 5 sp manual. With the automatic
> and heavy-duty cooling, the XJ is rated to tow 5000 lb. Power is
> plentiful with the 4.0. I have towed a popup trailer over the Grapevine
> in So. Cal. (about 5000 ft elevation). No problem. The Jeep easily
> maintained 65 mph uphill.
>
> Mine is 5sp. I see no advantage whatsoever. Why do you insist on the
stick?
>
> Kamen
> 93 XJ 4.0
>
> Charles Stoyer wrote:
> > Right now I have Jeep Cherokees (2 x 1987) and am looking to upgrade. I
can
> > get a 1994 Cherokee for around $4k if I can find one. I am in Denver
area.
> >
> > Complaints about Cherokee are low power (I drive between 6,000 and
11,000
> > feet above sea level), not so great mileage (20 mpg on a good day) and
poor
> > towing capacity (snowmobile trailer w/2 sleds). Cherokees have about
> > 180-190k miles on them.
> >
> > Chains don't fit well on rear wheels - low fender clearance, low spring
> > clearance (leaf springs).
> >
> > Engine compartment is tight, cargo capacity is OK. Off-road capability
is
> > good.
> >
> > I am looking for 5-speed manual, maybe a more modern engine (24 valves?)
> > than the straight six in the Cherokee. Cherokee supposedly has 177 HP,
newer
> > (HO) engines have 190, I think. At 6,000 feet and above, my 86 SAAB 900
> > Turbo with 160 HP and weighing 2,900 lbs (Jeep weighs around 3,100) will
> > suck the doors off either of the Jeeps at 231k miles.
> >
> > It seems the Toyota 4runner is lower power and heavier vehicle, also a
lot
> > more expensive. Got a loan of an Izuzu Rodeo and it seemed like a nice
> > vehicle but they are notorious for burning up engines. Don't even talk
about
> > the Ford Exploder. Nissan Pathfinder is not impressive. JGC (ZJ) does
not
> > come with 5-speed manual, so that is out (although some early ones did
but
> > they are hard to find).
> >
> > Would most power in a light (3,000 lb) SUV be maybe a 94 or so Cherokee
with
> > a free flow cat-back exhaust? I seem to keep coming back to Jeep for
light
> > vehicle with power and low cost.
> >
> > I know you guys are gonna favor Jeep but maybe you can say what to
really
> > stay away from, besides what I already mentioned. Or what comparisons
have
> > you made before buying Jeep?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Charles.
> >
> >
> >